At 6/2/09 11:11 AM, jmtb02 wrote: I'm at E3 tomorrow. If you are around let me know! Starogre is manning the Staroglaiel game booth, that's all I have on my list of people to see thus far.

Starogre and Glaiel (-Glaiel) are showing Closure at E3? If so that'd be quite awesome..

*checks starogres ng page*

Awesome stuff! I dearly wish I could afford to fly out to LA for E3, and this year looks like a very shiny one to go to.. hope you have fun, which I'm sure you will. I'm eagerly awaiting the Nintendo conference in 20 minutes, hopefully it'll give me something to laugh about before the Sony conference which better be darn good.

At 6/2/09 11:37 AM, liaaaam wrote: Sony conference which better be darn good.

Here's hoping for Castle Crashers. lol.

NOTE TO SELF: Don't ever work with Callum Stamp again. Just yesterday he said, after months of working, that his collab wasn't gonna be done. Damn, I'm sadddd...

At 6/2/09 10:32 AM, knugen wrote: Nothing, you didn't trace it ;)

Surely the interpreter calculates it regardless of whether you trace the result into output window or not.

I got bored in IT

At 6/2/09 12:21 PM, Toast wrote:

At 6/2/09 10:32 AM, knugen wrote: Nothing, you didn't trace it ;)

Surely the interpreter calculates it regardless of whether you trace the result into output window or not.

But it doesn't output it anywhere, which was the question :)

But yeah, it seems that people don't really understand what we're getting at with the whole "what would that output"-thingy. A shame really :P

At 6/2/09 11:57 AM, Kirk-Cocaine wrote: Here's hoping for Castle Crashers. lol.

Aha, that's at least 1 thing they urm.., might have stole (not really stole but people think it's an exclusive-licensed game)..

:X

At 6/2/09 12:54 PM, knugen wrote: But it doesn't output it anywhere, which was the question :)

depends how you define "output" :P

But yeah, it seems that people don't really understand what we're getting at with the whole "what would that output"-thingy. A shame really :P

Yes, but it's pretty humerus.

At 6/2/09 11:57 AM, Kirk-Cocaine wrote: Here's hoping for Castle Crashers. lol.

Agreed!, would be nice to see that little gem show up on the psn so I can finally play more than 5mins of it.

At 6/2/09 02:07 PM, Zuggz wrote:

At 6/2/09 11:57 AM, Kirk-Cocaine wrote: Here's hoping for Castle Crashers. lol.

Agreed!, would be nice to see that little gem show up on the psn so I can finally play more than 5mins of it.

Buy it you cheap fuckk :) Worth every penny ;)

hey anyone mind helping program a jeopardy style game for my science project? i really need this to help pass, and it would help my science teacher for a while. PM if interested, ill give more on PM.

love it if someone helped.

Just wondering what's everyones religious beliefs here in the reg lounge?
This isn't a religious debate just interested to know who's agnostic, atheist, of a religion etc.?

Personally I'm a modern christian.

What about you lot?

At 6/2/09 05:00 PM, Deadclever23 wrote: Personally I'm a modern christian.

What's that mean then? As for me, I'm an atheist. Religion is all voodoo nonsense as far as this cat's concerned.

At 6/2/09 05:07 PM, Kirk-Cocaine wrote: What's that mean then?

Not catholic or classic protestant, I could give a denomination but no one would no what it is.
And no it's not a cult.

As for me, I'm an atheist. Religion is all voodoo nonsense as far as this cat's concerned.

As for me, I'm an atheist. Religion is all voodoo nonsense as far as this cat's concerned.

Meant to reply to this, fair enough, your opinion.

At 6/2/09 05:11 PM, Deadclever23 wrote: As for me, I'm an atheist. Religion is all voodoo nonsense as far as this cat's concerned.

Make up your mind :P

I'm with Kirk on this one. It's all bull.

Newgrounds is gonna be 14 soon, we shud make somethin..

this stupid shit still cracks me up.

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At 6/2/09 05:11 PM, Deadclever23 wrote: And no it's not a cult.

At what point does someone's belief system stop being a cult and start being a religion? Serious question. It's always fascinated me how fringe religion's (Wicca, Scientology, etc) get labeled as cults, but mainstream religion doesn't. The only difference I can see is the size of their followings.

At 6/2/09 05:18 PM, Luis wrote: Newgrounds is gonna be 14 soon, we shud make somethin..

We should get it some Clearasil Ultra before it breaks out in acne.

Athiest. More of a science guy tbf

At 6/2/09 05:21 PM, Kirk-Cocaine wrote:

At 6/2/09 05:11 PM, Deadclever23 wrote: And no it's not a cult.

At what point does someone's belief system stop being a cult and start being a religion? Serious question. It's always fascinated me how fringe religion's (Wicca, Scientology, etc) get labeled as cults, but mainstream religion doesn't. The only difference I can see is the size of their followings.

Something like a cult is out of mainstream culture and a religion is somewhat involved in mainstream culture.

I like to challenge atheists, even though I am one, its just fun playing devils advocate sometimes. I find many atheists fall victim to blind faith just as much as religious zealots. So an atheist please argue with me for just a second.

You claim to believe what you do based on logic, but if I ask you, how did you accept logic as the best way to determine your beliefs, you can only point to logic. A christian might believe in the bible because its the word of god, you ask how he knows its the word of god and he says because of the bible, this is circular reasoning. People fall into the exact trap with logic. You prove that logic is a clever method of thinking, by applying logic to it. Therefore if logic was wrong, the fact you prove it right with logic proves nothing. You cannot prove something, with itself.

So please, what makes you believe in logic?

At 6/2/09 06:00 PM, CaiWengi wrote: So please, what makes you believe in logic?

So if logic cannot be believed in, how can I believe what you just said?

At 6/2/09 06:07 PM, ImpendingRiot wrote:
I'm not sure I follow you... If you're asking why follow logic over faith it's because logic and reason require proof. Most religions are designed to be improvable, it's why so many of the perks are attainable in the 'afterlife', because no ones going to say otherwise once they're dead.

Yes your saying logic and reason require proof, but how do you accept this entire method of thinking? How do you accept the scientific method? Because its logical, but what makes you think logic is the right way to go? Because its the most logical. A la circular reasoning. I certainly do no accept faith as a belief system, I'm just trying to call logic into question.

At 6/2/09 06:11 PM, CaiWengi wrote:

At 6/2/09 06:07 PM, ImpendingRiot wrote:
I'm not sure I follow you... If you're asking why follow logic over faith it's because logic and reason require proof. Most religions are designed to be improvable, it's why so many of the perks are attainable in the 'afterlife', because no ones going to say otherwise once they're dead.

Yes your saying logic and reason require proof, but how do you accept this entire method of thinking? How do you accept the scientific method? Because its logical, but what makes you think logic is the right way to go? Because its the most logical. A la circular reasoning. I certainly do no accept faith as a belief system, I'm just trying to call logic into question.

Do you actually have an answer to this argument?
It seems like the only way to argue one thing other another is by using logic and reason. Logic is a method of arguing by using facts and experience from past events, it is generally regarded as a higher form of thinking than blind faith - but I have no idea how to make that argument without using... well, logic!

At 6/2/09 06:11 PM, CaiWengi wrote: Yes your saying logic and reason require proof, but how do you accept this entire method of thinking? How do you accept the scientific method? Because its logical...

It's because it's repeatable, if I put a lit splint near hydrogen it WILL make a popping sound.

I'm just trying to call logic into question.

It's not that I believe in "logic", it just that I don't believe in Religion. Logic invariably leads onto philosophy, which is mostly a load of old bollocks and all.

At 6/2/09 06:00 PM, CaiWengi wrote: I like to challenge atheists, even though I am one, its just fun playing devils advocate sometimes. I find many atheists fall victim to blind faith just as much as religious zealots. So an atheist please argue with me for just a second.

I enjoy doing the same also. There's nothing I hate more than people who follow their faith blindly and don't think about it, regardless of which side of the coin they are on.
However, your argument goes a little beyond separating the seeing from the blind...

So please, what makes you believe in logic?

I choose logic as it feels right to me. I understand logic, I see logic working in modern society. Logic is a part of me.
Of course, the religious can argue the other way; that their god is/gods are a part of them, and they can see said deities working in every aspect of life. Does this flaw my argument? No, because I'm not attacking this way of thinking.

However, by my reasoning (logic), one way of thinking contradicts the other. This is my religious standpoint. As such, I can argue with any theist who uses logic to try and justify their belief, without digging myself into a pit.
If a theist said to me that they believe in what they believe in simply because that's what they believe in, I'd not only be confused by the statement, but my arguments would be invalid. To 'win' then, I would have to first convert them over to a more logical way of thinking, which would require logic. Thankfully, by my logic, almost everyone has the capacity to understand logic.

Logic

At 6/2/09 05:18 PM, Luis wrote: Newgrounds is gonna be 14 soon, we shud make somethin..

this stupid shit still cracks me up.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/44 7877

Great idea, I pledge 2.3 seconds of animation :D

In b4 NG turns 14 collab.

What day is its birthday?

Reg Lounge Birthday Flash?

Yeeessssss