At 6/15/10 06:21 PM, Toast wrote: You guys talking about console games again? sigh

There's nothing wrong with console games and there's nothing wrong with a good shooter. Sure, there are TONS AND TONS AND TONS of them out, but it's not like I go out and buy every single one in sight. I wait for reviews and gameplay footage, then choose my favorites.

And there's no way I'm switching to PC gaming until there's a high-end computer with no crashing and no lag that won't break the bank, and until they can make a game with decent online multiplayer. The reason I prefer console gaming, specifically on the PS3, is because it's cheap, and the console has spectacular capabilities. Sure, there are some computers that can do better, but they cost thousands of dollars (pre-built) and it's just not worth it.

At 6/15/10 06:10 PM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: they may have beat microsoft (it was a shit conference up until steam on ps3 and twisted metal), but nintendo completely owned this year's E3

I was mainly addressing Mike (and therefore Microsoft) with my comment. He got all excited when he saw Microsoft's conference. I agree, Nintendo's was fantastic.

At 6/15/10 06:21 PM, Toast wrote: I'm happy enough with cs1.6, UT, starcraft, and maybe a couple valve games.

You don't sound like a console n00b, wanna play some games on steam?

Do you play UT2004 or UT3? Starcraft II fapfap. But I play CoH and Dawn of war, they are better really.

I'm not a console n00b, I have 23 blu-ray games and 10 PSN games, and I have to say PC games are cheaper and better. Nothing beats the keyboard and mouse control set up.

I didn't see the nintendos keynote but Microsofts new console and Kinect looked cool.

At 6/15/10 06:52 PM, funkycaveman wrote: Do you play UT2004 or UT3?

What the hell is wrong with you? The original Unreal Tournament is where it's at. That game is fucking amazing.

At 6/15/10 06:56 PM, Archon68 wrote:

At 6/15/10 06:52 PM, funkycaveman wrote: Do you play UT2004 or UT3?

What the hell is wrong with you? The original Unreal Tournament is where it's at. That game is fucking amazing.

UT Classic? I would rather play Doom or GOD OF THUNDER! EPIC GAME! It runs on DOS but it can also run as an .exe. First game I ever played and is still the best, http://www.adeptsoftware.com/got/, I suggest you play the game if you like the classic UT. And online UT CTF is the best.

At 6/15/10 06:36 PM, Archon68 wrote: There's nothing wrong with console games and there's nothing wrong with a good shooter. Sure, there are TONS AND TONS AND TONS of them out, but it's not like I go out and buy every single one in sight. I wait for reviews and gameplay footage, then choose my favorites.

And there's no way I'm switching to PC gaming until there's a high-end computer with no crashing and no lag that won't break the bank,

Last time I checked, lag was a product of a faulty internet connection or gaming server, not your computer. As for crashing, after 3000 hours of playing WoW, 600 hours of playing l4d, and 100 hours of playing cs, I can count the number of times I've crashed on my fingers. css: 0, l4d: maybe 2-3, and it takes 10 seconds to re-launch the game, wow: maybe a dozen times without including disconnects. Maybe we're living on different worlds, because I really don't see where you're going with those crashes. When do video games crash? Just like that out of the blue? I have almost never seen that happen.

It's funny that you're waiting for high-end computers that don't crash (countrary to the fact you are upset about high end pc's costing so much money - why buy one then?), because I can't think of any time where high end computers were unstable. Up until 8 years or so, graphics processing hadn't caught up with the gaming industry and having good enough specs wasn't much of a concern. Lately, stupid game producers like CryTek have been making ridiculousely heavy games, and if for some reason you want to play them, I can find you a setup on newegg for less than 850 bucks which will let you play Crysis on "ultra high" settings. Don't believe me? Even my outdated PC from 2008 which cost me a bit under 900 can run it ultra high.

and until they can make a game with decent online multiplayer. The reason I prefer console gaming, specifically on the PS3, is because it's cheap, and the console has spectacular capabilities. Sure, there are some computers that can do better, but they cost thousands of dollars (pre-built) and it's just not worth it.

Wait, you do have a computer, don't you? You do write on the internet. When you buy a PS3, it's something you buy only for gaming, and it costs like 400 bucks right? Why not use a computer both for internet and gaming? If money is your concern, don't buy a fucking extra machine for gaming, just get the one you already use for internet and flash for gaming too. No reasonable computer costs thousands of dollars. As mentioned above, 850 bucks will let you play everything you could possibly want with great fps. Not to mention the price of console games. I don't often look, but when I see stuff like cod5 and mw2 coming out it's usually in the range of 60 euros, which is 75 dollars. I buy my games on steam discounts for a handful of bucks.

I don't know why I'm even discussing game graphics and graphics processing capacities in computers when my whole point was that it's sad that games today are all about graphics and not gameplay.
I've yet to hear of a console game with truly good content for multiplayer. Maybe halo 3 (no idea why it wasn't released for pc), but that's just a sequel. I don't know why there's this console obsession in america. It's for this reason, for example, that 100% of the high-end l4d teams on ESL and league4dead are european. Why would anyone want to play l4d on console? it's ridiculous.

because I can't play zelda on a PC

Ooops I contradicted myself a bit there...

The point is, I've tried quite a few gaming PCs and they've all been quite high-end. They always crash whenever I try to play the games I want to play, and the multiplayer servers are always down. Consoles, on the other hand, crash one out of every million times you use them, and the servers have never been down, except for one day where my PS3's internal clock got confused.

Why not use a computer both for internet and gaming?

Can't have multiple people playing at a PC at once.
Not every game is released for PC
The only games people seem to play on PCs are FPS and FPS suck balls
You can play console games in a comfy lounge and not hunched over a desk like PC
You never have to update graphic cards etc on consoles
Control Pads > Mouse & Keyboard

I know you can get control pads for PCs but that's just admitting consoles are better

At 6/15/10 07:28 PM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: because I can't play zelda on a PC

It's called an emulator. One of my friends even carries around an N64 emulator on his flash drive so he can play Ocarina of Time and Super Mario Bros wherever he goes.

At 6/15/10 07:28 PM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: because I can't play zelda on a PC

WHAT HAS SCIENCE DONE?

At 6/15/10 07:37 PM, Kirk-Cocaine wrote:

Why not use a computer both for internet and gaming?

Can't have multiple people playing at a PC at once.

Consoles are better for having something to do when people are over. True. I'm discussing gaming here, not socialising.

Not every game is released for PC

Name a few good ones.

The only games people seem to play on PCs are FPS

ever heard of rts? rpg? mmorpg? starcraft, red alert 2, neverwinter nights, warcraft 3... familiar with any of those games?

and FPS suck balls

cool story

You can play console games in a comfy lounge and not hunched over a desk like PC

do you want some lemonade with that? and maybe a plate of cookies? you're right, my chair is so uncomfortable, it's like it has spikes coming out of it, right?

You never have to update graphic cards etc on consoles

erm, consoles obey to the same physical laws as computers. There's a reason why you can't play PS3 games on PS1 and nintendo 64 or gameboy advanced. that's actually a disadvantage for consoles, because pc's ARE upgradable, whereas consoles are not

Control Pads > Mouse & Keyboard

ahahahhahahhahah
please
ahahah
sorry I cannot form a coherent sentence to respond to this, im too busy drooling from laughter

I know you can get control pads for PCs but that's just admitting consoles are better

what the fuuuck? what sane person in this world thinks that control pads are better in gaming than keyboard and mouse?

toast wtf i sent you a message like 55 years ago telling you to play sc2 with me

At 6/15/10 09:34 PM, Starogre wrote: toast wtf i sent you a message like 55 years ago telling you to play sc2 with me

oh shit man, we have to play when the beta is back on

At 6/15/10 07:40 PM, Kirk-Cocaine wrote:

At 6/15/10 07:28 PM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: because I can't play zelda on a PC

WHAT HAS SCIENCE DONE?

*new zelda

Look guys Wii, Kinect and the gayass wand obviously win as you can frikkin' wave your arms in the air to control. YEAH BOI!!!

* lols at 'fanboy lounge' *

goldeneye remake for the Wii!

Now the game can be played at greater then 8 fps!

At 6/15/10 07:08 PM, Toast wrote: I can count the number of times I've crashed on my fingers (...) l4d: maybe 2-3 (...) wow: maybe a dozen times without including disconnects

Fucking hell. Do you have 3 hands or something?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tax4e4hBB Zc

ill just leave this here

At 6/16/10 09:21 AM, Toast wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tax4e4hBB Zc

ill just leave this here

I hope they keep the atmosphere of the first one.
Looks good.

Does anyone know where I can download Adobe Updater? I just realized it didn't install itself when I installed the Master Collection CS4 and I've been having a lot of problems that I used to have before any of the updates were released. I now have no way to update my programs.

I've never had to update the drivers on my console.
I've never had to manually install a patch on my console.
I've never had a controller flake out because of an update.

I had the fortune of growing up when PC gaming was were it was at because it VASTLY overpowered consoles. I still prefer mouse/keyboard setup, especially in RTS/FPS games. I own probably 300+ PC games, and have amassed about 200+ console games (from Comm64, NES, genesis, PS3, 360, wii.. ect..)

Nowadays, I rarely play PC games.

Now, I like buying a game, putting it in, and instantly connecting and playing with my friends... and that's it. Simple. I don't have time to fuck with, or tweak my system. If my computer breaks for some reason, I can go by another one and not have to worry about re installs. I don't need to know where I put my CD key, or why suddenly, my resolution gets fucked up when I run HDMI to my television (like I do for FFXI, which I play on both PC (for 3rd party applications) and 360 (for ease))

Consoles are just much easier to jump in and enjoy.

Though I recently popped in D2:LoD and showed my GF what a real hack&slash is. Her little Amazon is 56 now.

And don't give me the PC games > Console games argument. You have to funnel through a tons of shit on both platforms to find the gems worth playing. The BEST PC games to edge ahead of the BEST console games I've played though... but I still prefer console nowadays.

They're just easier.

At 6/16/10 03:12 PM, citricsquid wrote: Easier for get up and go but they lack a lot of what PC gamers get. No modding, game has to remain vanilla, poor server support. I've never got the love for consoles for FPS games, a console controller for aiming well is awful, although for driving games, rpg etc. I'd rather play them on a console.

I really hate the pc vs console thing though, they serve different purposes. It's like mac vs pc.

have you ever played halo3? I'm not a huge fan of shooters but it controls VERY well and aiming is easy. I don't think anyone who really says "aiming sucks on a controller" has actually TRIED any recent console FPS games.

At 6/16/10 03:12 PM, citricsquid wrote: I really hate the pc vs console thing though, they serve different purposes. It's like mac vs pc.

well not really. i thuoght that too, and i was gonna conclude that the use of consoles is justifiable for "casual gaming" like having your friends over and playing a couple of rounds when you're bored, and pc offers much richer gameplay and is the only platform for pro gaming, but nowadays in america much of the pro gaming and tournaments are done in console, which is ridiculous

Let's just say they both have their advantages and disadvantages.

I love playing my Xbox, purely because I can just load it and get playing. I feel more eased about buying console games because there's no installing, 99% guaranteed to work, while with a PC game, I'm not sure if I'll have to update drivers, or how quick the game will run.

I'm talking from a casual gamers point of view, my computers good, not by far amazing, but good. The upgrade aspect can be seen as an advantage for PC gamers, but it can also incline console gamers to not play on their PC, worried that they'll have to update their computers every 6 months. spending more money.

There's also the technical side to upgrading computers, if you don't know what you're doing, you're not going to want to attempt it.

At 6/16/10 03:43 PM, citricsquid wrote: my younger brother was an avid TF2 player on xbox, let him play with my pc and he said it was a lot better for aiming. maybe he's an anomaly then. also as far as I know don't most console games have assisted aiming?

FPS games are better on PC; L4D, CoD (only played 3 and MW2 on PC+Console), all of the Halos.

At 6/16/10 03:43 PM, citricsquid wrote: my younger brother was an avid TF2 player on xbox, let him play with my pc and he said it was a lot better for aiming. maybe he's an anomaly then. also as far as I know don't most console games have assisted aiming?

Plus TF2 gets all the lastest updates first, there are also a lot more players online and custom servers, not sure if you can get that on X360? For sensitivity the mouse is better, I would like to see someone turn quickly and accurately on a controller. Aim assist is there, it 'snaps' onto enemies :(

At 6/16/10 05:13 PM, HDXmike wrote: its taken a long, long time but apple have finally hooked me on the iPhone

Nexus One > iPhone.

At 6/16/10 05:13 PM, HDXmike wrote: its taken a long, long time but apple have finally hooked me on the iPhone

Yeah, I'm probably getting the new one as well. My 2G is becoming a bit slow. And because I imported it from the US it doesn't have wireless internet either (not that I would want to use EDGE/GPRS).

At 6/16/10 05:13 PM, HDXmike wrote: its taken a long, long time but apple have finally hooked me on the iPhone

They will be saying "reinventing all over again" in 8-12 months time.