welp, time to bump this club, so now that i have this new gaming laptop (which i will have windows on) what fun linux distro should i install on my previous laptop?
At 7/10/24 02:01 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:welp, time to bump this club, so now that i have this new gaming laptop (which i will have windows on) what fun linux distro should i install on my previous laptop?
Depends on how you define "fun". Mint is my go-to recommendation for noobs... Not that it's just for noobs, it's one of the pragmatic distros if you want your laptop to work and be usable quickly. But that also means that many choices are already made for you.
If your definition of fun is trying things, looking up why some of it doesn't work, finding workarounds, etc..., then you might want to try installing an os without desktop environment, doing all from the terminal and gradually installing everything you find necessary. Many distros allow that, Debian and Arch are the two most famous.Arch can be a nice toy, it's very barebone, even some terminal functions will be lacking at first. It also gets very frequent updates. There are even more minimal distros like Gento, but I personally haven't gone that far yet.
I wouldn't recommend going minimal if you have no previous experience with Linux. You can still install Debian or Arch if you want, but rather than doing a minimal install, install a desktop environment like kde, xfce, mate or gnome, which will make it more usable right away.
At 7/15/24 08:03 AM, LoaExMachina wrote:At 7/10/24 02:01 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:welp, time to bump this club, so now that i have this new gaming laptop (which i will have windows on) what fun linux distro should i install on my previous laptop?
Depends on how you define "fun". Mint is my go-to recommendation for noobs... Not that it's just for noobs, it's one of the pragmatic distros if you want your laptop to work and be usable quickly. But that also means that many choices are already made for you.
If your definition of fun is trying things, looking up why some of it doesn't work, finding workarounds, etc..., then you might want to try installing an os without desktop environment, doing all from the terminal and gradually installing everything you find necessary. Many distros allow that, Debian and Arch are the two most famous.Arch can be a nice toy, it's very barebone, even some terminal functions will be lacking at first. It also gets very frequent updates. There are even more minimal distros like Gento, but I personally haven't gone that far yet.
I wouldn't recommend going minimal if you have no previous experience with Linux. You can still install Debian or Arch if you want, but rather than doing a minimal install, install a desktop environment like kde, xfce, mate or gnome, which will make it more usable right away.
arch doesn't wanna recognize it's wifi card so might aswell try debian then
At 7/15/24 08:05 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:At 7/15/24 08:03 AM, LoaExMachina wrote:At 7/10/24 02:01 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:welp, time to bump this club, so now that i have this new gaming laptop (which i will have windows on) what fun linux distro should i install on my previous laptop?
Depends on how you define "fun". Mint is my go-to recommendation for noobs... Not that it's just for noobs, it's one of the pragmatic distros if you want your laptop to work and be usable quickly. But that also means that many choices are already made for you.
If your definition of fun is trying things, looking up why some of it doesn't work, finding workarounds, etc..., then you might want to try installing an os without desktop environment, doing all from the terminal and gradually installing everything you find necessary. Many distros allow that, Debian and Arch are the two most famous.Arch can be a nice toy, it's very barebone, even some terminal functions will be lacking at first. It also gets very frequent updates. There are even more minimal distros like Gento, but I personally haven't gone that far yet.
I wouldn't recommend going minimal if you have no previous experience with Linux. You can still install Debian or Arch if you want, but rather than doing a minimal install, install a desktop environment like kde, xfce, mate or gnome, which will make it more usable right away.
arch doesn't wanna recognize it's wifi card so might aswell try debian then
I don't think Debian comes with any wifi drivers that Arch doesn't have, so it's possible you'll encounter the same problem again, it might be better to try and find the source right away. Did the problem show up during the installation process? I'm relatively new to Arch, so I don't know if I'll be able to help, but there are many forum posts with similar issues. If you've been stuck on it for a while and haven't found a solution even while looking through these posts, I recommend you try to ask for help on Reddit or the Arch Forum.
At 7/15/24 08:11 AM, LoaExMachina wrote:At 7/15/24 08:05 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:At 7/15/24 08:03 AM, LoaExMachina wrote:At 7/10/24 02:01 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:welp, time to bump this club, so now that i have this new gaming laptop (which i will have windows on) what fun linux distro should i install on my previous laptop?
Depends on how you define "fun". Mint is my go-to recommendation for noobs... Not that it's just for noobs, it's one of the pragmatic distros if you want your laptop to work and be usable quickly. But that also means that many choices are already made for you.
If your definition of fun is trying things, looking up why some of it doesn't work, finding workarounds, etc..., then you might want to try installing an os without desktop environment, doing all from the terminal and gradually installing everything you find necessary. Many distros allow that, Debian and Arch are the two most famous.Arch can be a nice toy, it's very barebone, even some terminal functions will be lacking at first. It also gets very frequent updates. There are even more minimal distros like Gento, but I personally haven't gone that far yet.
I wouldn't recommend going minimal if you have no previous experience with Linux. You can still install Debian or Arch if you want, but rather than doing a minimal install, install a desktop environment like kde, xfce, mate or gnome, which will make it more usable right away.
arch doesn't wanna recognize it's wifi card so might aswell try debian then
I don't think Debian comes with any wifi drivers that Arch doesn't have, so it's possible you'll encounter the same problem again, it might be better to try and find the source right away. Did the problem show up during the installation process? I'm relatively new to Arch, so I don't know if I'll be able to help, but there are many forum posts with similar issues. If you've been stuck on it for a while and haven't found a solution even while looking through these posts, I recommend you try to ask for help on Reddit or the Arch Forum.
it didn't recognize it at all, meaning i couldn't even install it
At 7/15/24 09:05 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:At 7/15/24 08:11 AM, LoaExMachina wrote:At 7/15/24 08:05 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:At 7/15/24 08:03 AM, LoaExMachina wrote:At 7/10/24 02:01 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:welp, time to bump this club, so now that i have this new gaming laptop (which i will have windows on) what fun linux distro should i install on my previous laptop?
Depends on how you define "fun". Mint is my go-to recommendation for noobs... Not that it's just for noobs, it's one of the pragmatic distros if you want your laptop to work and be usable quickly. But that also means that many choices are already made for you.
If your definition of fun is trying things, looking up why some of it doesn't work, finding workarounds, etc..., then you might want to try installing an os without desktop environment, doing all from the terminal and gradually installing everything you find necessary. Many distros allow that, Debian and Arch are the two most famous.Arch can be a nice toy, it's very barebone, even some terminal functions will be lacking at first. It also gets very frequent updates. There are even more minimal distros like Gento, but I personally haven't gone that far yet.
I wouldn't recommend going minimal if you have no previous experience with Linux. You can still install Debian or Arch if you want, but rather than doing a minimal install, install a desktop environment like kde, xfce, mate or gnome, which will make it more usable right away.
arch doesn't wanna recognize it's wifi card so might aswell try debian then
I don't think Debian comes with any wifi drivers that Arch doesn't have, so it's possible you'll encounter the same problem again, it might be better to try and find the source right away. Did the problem show up during the installation process? I'm relatively new to Arch, so I don't know if I'll be able to help, but there are many forum posts with similar issues. If you've been stuck on it for a while and haven't found a solution even while looking through these posts, I recommend you try to ask for help on Reddit or the Arch Forum.
it didn't recognize it at all, meaning i couldn't even install it
Strange. Does your laptop not have an internet port? If so you can use it during the installation and fix your wifi afterwards.
If you really have no option to use internet, there's a way to install Arch offline https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Offline_installation
But you're right in thinking that Debian, would be simpler to install even if you still get that problem. If the network configuration doesn't work, the installer will allow you to skip it and go on with the install; and try to fix it later.
At 7/15/24 11:30 AM, LoaExMachina wrote:At 7/15/24 09:05 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:At 7/15/24 08:11 AM, LoaExMachina wrote:At 7/15/24 08:05 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:At 7/15/24 08:03 AM, LoaExMachina wrote:At 7/10/24 02:01 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:welp, time to bump this club, so now that i have this new gaming laptop (which i will have windows on) what fun linux distro should i install on my previous laptop?
Depends on how you define "fun". Mint is my go-to recommendation for noobs... Not that it's just for noobs, it's one of the pragmatic distros if you want your laptop to work and be usable quickly. But that also means that many choices are already made for you.
If your definition of fun is trying things, looking up why some of it doesn't work, finding workarounds, etc..., then you might want to try installing an os without desktop environment, doing all from the terminal and gradually installing everything you find necessary. Many distros allow that, Debian and Arch are the two most famous.Arch can be a nice toy, it's very barebone, even some terminal functions will be lacking at first. It also gets very frequent updates. There are even more minimal distros like Gento, but I personally haven't gone that far yet.
I wouldn't recommend going minimal if you have no previous experience with Linux. You can still install Debian or Arch if you want, but rather than doing a minimal install, install a desktop environment like kde, xfce, mate or gnome, which will make it more usable right away.
arch doesn't wanna recognize it's wifi card so might aswell try debian then
I don't think Debian comes with any wifi drivers that Arch doesn't have, so it's possible you'll encounter the same problem again, it might be better to try and find the source right away. Did the problem show up during the installation process? I'm relatively new to Arch, so I don't know if I'll be able to help, but there are many forum posts with similar issues. If you've been stuck on it for a while and haven't found a solution even while looking through these posts, I recommend you try to ask for help on Reddit or the Arch Forum.
it didn't recognize it at all, meaning i couldn't even install it
Strange. Does your laptop not have an internet port? If so you can use it during the installation and fix your wifi afterwards.
If you really have no option to use internet, there's a way to install Arch offline https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Offline_installation
But you're right in thinking that Debian, would be simpler to install even if you still get that problem. If the network configuration doesn't work, the installer will allow you to skip it and go on with the install; and try to fix it later.
not even ethernet works 
On another note, I'm making a comic about Systemd and alternative init systems for Linux and Unix.
At 7/10/24 02:01 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:welp, time to bump this club, so now that i have this new gaming laptop (which i will have windows on) what fun linux distro should i install on my previous laptop?
If you have a lot of time to spend and no real use for the old laptop, follow the Linux From Scratch book. It's free online. You'll learn how an operating system is constructed from the inside. As a daily driver, it's very impractical, since the book stops at getting to a command line with a handful of the basic GNU programs. But you can treat it like a hobby car: you build it up bit by bit, and eventually, you'll have cool things you built yourself, like… graphics!
Or just wipe it when you're done and install something boring. You'll still get to claim the nerd cred for doing LFS.
At 7/17/24 04:21 AM, LoaExMachina wrote:On another note, I'm making a comic about Systemd and alternative init systems for Linux and Unix.
https://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/loaexmachina/the-init-wars
Debian with default gnome on a shitty garage sale hp laptop
installed every single provided gui when I initially installed it because im a fucking idiot, however that saved me when I accidently started uninstalling python3.
24 gig ddr4 ram 1 tb hdd cus who needs an ssd or matching dimm(s) in the year of our lord, 2024
I broke the uh tpm somehow so windows just doesnt work
its been fun being forced to learn linux and to boot from minimal grub everytime I turned it on for like half a year cus the hdd kept falling out during operation cus I was too lazy to install the bracket. Duct tape isnt a good subsitute and it melts
I got a chromebook for uber cheep and was gonna install arch or some stupid meme shit like kali/parrot on it but its only got 32 gb storage which really fucks wit my vibe
got it used and prior user had it in dev mode which bodes poorly
theres probably sum ultra lite distro I can torture the chromecrook with, if theres a will, theres a way
At 7/15/24 08:05 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:At 7/15/24 08:03 AM, LoaExMachina wrote:At 7/10/24 02:01 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:welp, time to bump this club, so now that i have this new gaming laptop (which i will have windows on) what fun linux distro should i install on my previous laptop?
Depends on how you define "fun". Mint is my go-to recommendation for noobs... Not that it's just for noobs, it's one of the pragmatic distros if you want your laptop to work and be usable quickly. But that also means that many choices are already made for you.
If your definition of fun is trying things, looking up why some of it doesn't work, finding workarounds, etc..., then you might want to try installing an os without desktop environment, doing all from the terminal and gradually installing everything you find necessary. Many distros allow that, Debian and Arch are the two most famous.Arch can be a nice toy, it's very barebone, even some terminal functions will be lacking at first. It also gets very frequent updates. There are even more minimal distros like Gento, but I personally haven't gone that far yet.
I wouldn't recommend going minimal if you have no previous experience with Linux. You can still install Debian or Arch if you want, but rather than doing a minimal install, install a desktop environment like kde, xfce, mate or gnome, which will make it more usable right away.
arch doesn't wanna recognize it's wifi card so might aswell try debian then
if you have your old laptop try switching wifi cards with your new one, get shit installed, then fiddle with it later
At 7/19/24 01:59 AM, Dr-Freebase wrote:At 7/15/24 08:05 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:At 7/15/24 08:03 AM, LoaExMachina wrote:At 7/10/24 02:01 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:welp, time to bump this club, so now that i have this new gaming laptop (which i will have windows on) what fun linux distro should i install on my previous laptop?
Depends on how you define "fun". Mint is my go-to recommendation for noobs... Not that it's just for noobs, it's one of the pragmatic distros if you want your laptop to work and be usable quickly. But that also means that many choices are already made for you.
If your definition of fun is trying things, looking up why some of it doesn't work, finding workarounds, etc..., then you might want to try installing an os without desktop environment, doing all from the terminal and gradually installing everything you find necessary. Many distros allow that, Debian and Arch are the two most famous.Arch can be a nice toy, it's very barebone, even some terminal functions will be lacking at first. It also gets very frequent updates. There are even more minimal distros like Gento, but I personally haven't gone that far yet.
I wouldn't recommend going minimal if you have no previous experience with Linux. You can still install Debian or Arch if you want, but rather than doing a minimal install, install a desktop environment like kde, xfce, mate or gnome, which will make it more usable right away.
arch doesn't wanna recognize it's wifi card so might aswell try debian then
if you have your old laptop try switching wifi cards with your new one, get shit installed, then fiddle with it later
when tf did 2017 become old, damn
I absolutely love the sheer simplicity of the UNIX way. Take troff/nroff or perhaps the GNU implementation of roff, groff: I can write outlines, notes, books, or any type of document output for that matter. Very simple macro system and far less terse than LaTeX while not as limiting as markdown. It's awesome, I say give it a try sometime. And because it was designed to output to PDF or PostScript or plain text or even just spit it out to stdout, I can then pipe it to say my printer or another application I desire.
"Premature optimization is the root of all evil"
~Donald Knuth
At 7/17/24 05:27 PM, silverchase wrote:At 7/10/24 02:01 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:welp, time to bump this club, so now that i have this new gaming laptop (which i will have windows on) what fun linux distro should i install on my previous laptop?
If you have a lot of time to spend and no real use for the old laptop, follow the Linux From Scratch book. It's free online. You'll learn how an operating system is constructed from the inside. As a daily driver, it's very impractical, since the book stops at getting to a command line with a handful of the basic GNU programs. But you can treat it like a hobby car: you build it up bit by bit, and eventually, you'll have cool things you built yourself, like… graphics!
Or just wipe it when you're done and install something boring. You'll still get to claim the nerd cred for doing LFS.At 7/17/24 04:21 AM, LoaExMachina wrote:
On another note, I'm making a comic about Systemd and alternative init systems for Linux and Unix.
https://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/loaexmachina/the-init-wars
There's also BLFS if you want to take it a step further setting up an X window system or anything else that's more advanced than what the intended scope of LFS was intended for.
"Premature optimization is the root of all evil"
~Donald Knuth
At 8/6/24 08:47 AM, xeiavica wrote:At 7/17/24 05:27 PM, silverchase wrote:There's also BLFS if you want to take it a step further setting up an X window system or anything else that's more advanced than what the intended scope of LFS was intended for.At 7/10/24 02:01 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:welp, time to bump this club, so now that i have this new gaming laptop (which i will have windows on) what fun linux distro should i install on my previous laptop?
If you have a lot of time to spend and no real use for the old laptop, follow the Linux From Scratch book. It's free online. You'll learn how an operating system is constructed from the inside. As a daily driver, it's very impractical, since the book stops at getting to a command line with a handful of the basic GNU programs. But you can treat it like a hobby car: you build it up bit by bit, and eventually, you'll have cool things you built yourself, like… graphics!
Or just wipe it when you're done and install something boring. You'll still get to claim the nerd cred for doing LFS.At 7/17/24 04:21 AM, LoaExMachina wrote:
On another note, I'm making a comic about Systemd and alternative init systems for Linux and Unix.
https://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/loaexmachina/the-init-wars
Do yall not fw wayland
Kid named Twig ⬇️
At 10/9/24 03:36 PM, Twig6843 wrote:At 8/6/24 08:47 AM, xeiavica wrote:At 7/17/24 05:27 PM, silverchase wrote:There's also BLFS if you want to take it a step further setting up an X window system or anything else that's more advanced than what the intended scope of LFS was intended for.At 7/10/24 02:01 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:welp, time to bump this club, so now that i have this new gaming laptop (which i will have windows on) what fun linux distro should i install on my previous laptop?
If you have a lot of time to spend and no real use for the old laptop, follow the Linux From Scratch book. It's free online. You'll learn how an operating system is constructed from the inside. As a daily driver, it's very impractical, since the book stops at getting to a command line with a handful of the basic GNU programs. But you can treat it like a hobby car: you build it up bit by bit, and eventually, you'll have cool things you built yourself, like… graphics!
Or just wipe it when you're done and install something boring. You'll still get to claim the nerd cred for doing LFS.At 7/17/24 04:21 AM, LoaExMachina wrote:
On another note, I'm making a comic about Systemd and alternative init systems for Linux and Unix.
https://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/loaexmachina/the-init-wars
Do yall not fw wayland
Wayland is not ready yet, not for my usage at least. Maybe next year it will be, that is when NVIDIA decides to stop being cunts and properly support it. Debian's version of GNOME doesn't allow for launching the wayland session because of issues, at least from GDM3. Not tried yet from a console login.
"Premature optimization is the root of all evil"
~Donald Knuth
At 10/9/24 03:36 PM, Twig6843 wrote:Do yall not fw wayland
It's on my laptop but not my desktop. For boring purposes, it's all there. It's almost there for my desktop, where I play games and record my screen, which still a little bit annoying to work with. I have an AMD graphics card, so I've never had any issues with Wayland support.
Not surprising, SteamOS is based on Arch. Valve's already done a lot for Linux Gaming with Proton. Love to see them working on support for multiple architectures.
At 10/10/24 02:15 PM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/the-arch-linux-team-is-now-working-directly-with-valve-steamos-and-arch-should-both-benefit-greatly
Not surprising, SteamOS is based on Arch. Valve's already done a lot for Linux Gaming with Proton. Love to see them working on support for multiple architectures.
Arch is the best Linux distro the, Especially Endeavour os, so it is nice that Valve decided to use Arch
At 10/11/24 08:37 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:At 10/10/24 02:15 PM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/the-arch-linux-team-is-now-working-directly-with-valve-steamos-and-arch-should-both-benefit-greatly
Not surprising, SteamOS is based on Arch. Valve's already done a lot for Linux Gaming with Proton. Love to see them working on support for multiple architectures.
Arch is the best Linux distro the, Especially Endeavour os, so it is nice that Valve decided to use Arch
Definitely the best for gaming. Valve made the right choice basing SteamOS 3 on Arch instead of Debian.
At 10/11/24 09:18 AM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:At 10/11/24 08:37 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:Definitely the best for gaming. Valve made the right choice basing SteamOS 3 on Arch instead of Debian.At 10/10/24 02:15 PM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/the-arch-linux-team-is-now-working-directly-with-valve-steamos-and-arch-should-both-benefit-greatly
Not surprising, SteamOS is based on Arch. Valve's already done a lot for Linux Gaming with Proton. Love to see them working on support for multiple architectures.
Arch is the best Linux distro the, Especially Endeavour os, so it is nice that Valve decided to use Arch
what are debian's downsides for gaming?
At 10/11/24 05:14 PM, OnixDark wrote:At 10/11/24 09:18 AM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:At 10/11/24 08:37 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:Definitely the best for gaming. Valve made the right choice basing SteamOS 3 on Arch instead of Debian.At 10/10/24 02:15 PM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/the-arch-linux-team-is-now-working-directly-with-valve-steamos-and-arch-should-both-benefit-greatly
Not surprising, SteamOS is based on Arch. Valve's already done a lot for Linux Gaming with Proton. Love to see them working on support for multiple architectures.
Arch is the best Linux distro the, Especially Endeavour os, so it is nice that Valve decided to use Arch
what are debian's downsides for gaming?
They ship incredibly outdated packages (mesa,DE..)
(Which is understandable cuz debians is meant for servers and what not)
Kid named Twig ⬇️
At 10/11/24 05:14 PM, OnixDark wrote:At 10/11/24 09:18 AM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:At 10/11/24 08:37 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:Definitely the best for gaming. Valve made the right choice basing SteamOS 3 on Arch instead of Debian.At 10/10/24 02:15 PM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/the-arch-linux-team-is-now-working-directly-with-valve-steamos-and-arch-should-both-benefit-greatly
Not surprising, SteamOS is based on Arch. Valve's already done a lot for Linux Gaming with Proton. Love to see them working on support for multiple architectures.
Arch is the best Linux distro the, Especially Endeavour os, so it is nice that Valve decided to use Arch
what are debian's downsides for gaming?
Debian ships with very outdated packages, it's meant to be as stable as possible. Arch is the opposite, it ships with the latest bleeding-edge software.
Basically what Twig said, Debian is best suited for servers.
At 10/11/24 11:40 PM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:At 10/11/24 05:14 PM, OnixDark wrote:Debian ships with very outdated packages, it's meant to be as stable as possible. Arch is the opposite, it ships with the latest bleeding-edge software.At 10/11/24 09:18 AM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:At 10/11/24 08:37 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:Definitely the best for gaming. Valve made the right choice basing SteamOS 3 on Arch instead of Debian.At 10/10/24 02:15 PM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/the-arch-linux-team-is-now-working-directly-with-valve-steamos-and-arch-should-both-benefit-greatly
Not surprising, SteamOS is based on Arch. Valve's already done a lot for Linux Gaming with Proton. Love to see them working on support for multiple architectures.
Arch is the best Linux distro the, Especially Endeavour os, so it is nice that Valve decided to use Arch
what are debian's downsides for gaming?
Basically what Twig said, Debian is best suited for servers.
I dont think anyone has ever used Debian for every day stuff, it's like gaming on openBSD
At 10/13/24 06:09 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:At 10/11/24 11:40 PM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:At 10/11/24 05:14 PM, OnixDark wrote:Debian ships with very outdated packages, it's meant to be as stable as possible. Arch is the opposite, it ships with the latest bleeding-edge software.At 10/11/24 09:18 AM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:At 10/11/24 08:37 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:Definitely the best for gaming. Valve made the right choice basing SteamOS 3 on Arch instead of Debian.At 10/10/24 02:15 PM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/the-arch-linux-team-is-now-working-directly-with-valve-steamos-and-arch-should-both-benefit-greatly
Not surprising, SteamOS is based on Arch. Valve's already done a lot for Linux Gaming with Proton. Love to see them working on support for multiple architectures.
Arch is the best Linux distro the, Especially Endeavour os, so it is nice that Valve decided to use Arch
what are debian's downsides for gaming?
Basically what Twig said, Debian is best suited for servers.
I dont think anyone has ever used Debian for every day stuff, it's like gaming on openBSD
Debian is a solid choice for workstation computers, that's why so many distributions are based on it (Mint, Ubuntu).
Edit: Mint is based on Ubuntu, which is based on Debian. There's also Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE).
At 10/13/24 09:16 AM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:At 10/13/24 06:09 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:Debian is a solid choice for workstation computers, that's why so many distributions are based on it (Mint, Ubuntu).At 10/11/24 11:40 PM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:At 10/11/24 05:14 PM, OnixDark wrote:Debian ships with very outdated packages, it's meant to be as stable as possible. Arch is the opposite, it ships with the latest bleeding-edge software.At 10/11/24 09:18 AM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:At 10/11/24 08:37 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:Definitely the best for gaming. Valve made the right choice basing SteamOS 3 on Arch instead of Debian.At 10/10/24 02:15 PM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/the-arch-linux-team-is-now-working-directly-with-valve-steamos-and-arch-should-both-benefit-greatly
Not surprising, SteamOS is based on Arch. Valve's already done a lot for Linux Gaming with Proton. Love to see them working on support for multiple architectures.
Arch is the best Linux distro the, Especially Endeavour os, so it is nice that Valve decided to use Arch
what are debian's downsides for gaming?
Basically what Twig said, Debian is best suited for servers.
I dont think anyone has ever used Debian for every day stuff, it's like gaming on openBSD
Edit: Mint is based on Ubuntu, which is based on Debian. There's also Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE).
yeah, but i was thinking like vanilla Debian
At 10/16/24 02:29 PM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:At 10/13/24 09:16 AM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:At 10/13/24 06:09 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:Debian is a solid choice for workstation computers, that's why so many distributions are based on it (Mint, Ubuntu).At 10/11/24 11:40 PM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:At 10/11/24 05:14 PM, OnixDark wrote:Debian ships with very outdated packages, it's meant to be as stable as possible. Arch is the opposite, it ships with the latest bleeding-edge software.At 10/11/24 09:18 AM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:At 10/11/24 08:37 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:Definitely the best for gaming. Valve made the right choice basing SteamOS 3 on Arch instead of Debian.At 10/10/24 02:15 PM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/the-arch-linux-team-is-now-working-directly-with-valve-steamos-and-arch-should-both-benefit-greatly
Not surprising, SteamOS is based on Arch. Valve's already done a lot for Linux Gaming with Proton. Love to see them working on support for multiple architectures.
Arch is the best Linux distro the, Especially Endeavour os, so it is nice that Valve decided to use Arch
what are debian's downsides for gaming?
Basically what Twig said, Debian is best suited for servers.
I dont think anyone has ever used Debian for every day stuff, it's like gaming on openBSD
Edit: Mint is based on Ubuntu, which is based on Debian. There's also Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE).
yeah, but i was thinking like vanilla Debian
me who is on mint and wondering about openGL alternatives because krita issues (i tried disabling acceleration, but haven't tested since)
At 10/16/24 02:56 PM, OnixDark wrote:At 10/16/24 02:29 PM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:At 10/13/24 09:16 AM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:At 10/13/24 06:09 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:Debian is a solid choice for workstation computers, that's why so many distributions are based on it (Mint, Ubuntu).At 10/11/24 11:40 PM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:At 10/11/24 05:14 PM, OnixDark wrote:Debian ships with very outdated packages, it's meant to be as stable as possible. Arch is the opposite, it ships with the latest bleeding-edge software.At 10/11/24 09:18 AM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:At 10/11/24 08:37 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:Definitely the best for gaming. Valve made the right choice basing SteamOS 3 on Arch instead of Debian.At 10/10/24 02:15 PM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/the-arch-linux-team-is-now-working-directly-with-valve-steamos-and-arch-should-both-benefit-greatly
Not surprising, SteamOS is based on Arch. Valve's already done a lot for Linux Gaming with Proton. Love to see them working on support for multiple architectures.
Arch is the best Linux distro the, Especially Endeavour os, so it is nice that Valve decided to use Arch
what are debian's downsides for gaming?
Basically what Twig said, Debian is best suited for servers.
I dont think anyone has ever used Debian for every day stuff, it's like gaming on openBSD
Edit: Mint is based on Ubuntu, which is based on Debian. There's also Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE).
yeah, but i was thinking like vanilla Debian
me who is on mint and wondering about openGL alternatives because krita issues (i tried disabling acceleration, but haven't tested since)
What kind of issues? Are you using an AMD or Nvidia GPU?
At 10/17/24 11:52 AM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:At 10/16/24 02:56 PM, OnixDark wrote:At 10/16/24 02:29 PM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:At 10/13/24 09:16 AM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:At 10/13/24 06:09 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:Debian is a solid choice for workstation computers, that's why so many distributions are based on it (Mint, Ubuntu).At 10/11/24 11:40 PM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:At 10/11/24 05:14 PM, OnixDark wrote:Debian ships with very outdated packages, it's meant to be as stable as possible. Arch is the opposite, it ships with the latest bleeding-edge software.At 10/11/24 09:18 AM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:At 10/11/24 08:37 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:Definitely the best for gaming. Valve made the right choice basing SteamOS 3 on Arch instead of Debian.At 10/10/24 02:15 PM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/the-arch-linux-team-is-now-working-directly-with-valve-steamos-and-arch-should-both-benefit-greatly
Not surprising, SteamOS is based on Arch. Valve's already done a lot for Linux Gaming with Proton. Love to see them working on support for multiple architectures.
Arch is the best Linux distro the, Especially Endeavour os, so it is nice that Valve decided to use Arch
what are debian's downsides for gaming?
Basically what Twig said, Debian is best suited for servers.
I dont think anyone has ever used Debian for every day stuff, it's like gaming on openBSD
Edit: Mint is based on Ubuntu, which is based on Debian. There's also Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE).
yeah, but i was thinking like vanilla Debian
me who is on mint and wondering about openGL alternatives because krita issues (i tried disabling acceleration, but haven't tested since)
What kind of issues? Are you using an AMD or Nvidia GPU?
on-board AMD. at some point, no matter what tool/settings i use, nothing modifies the canvas. i can't create an ellipse, can't stroke with the brush, nothing. i looked it up and seems to be a common issue.
At 10/17/24 12:24 PM, OnixDark wrote:At 10/17/24 11:52 AM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:At 10/16/24 02:56 PM, OnixDark wrote:At 10/16/24 02:29 PM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:At 10/13/24 09:16 AM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:At 10/13/24 06:09 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:Debian is a solid choice for workstation computers, that's why so many distributions are based on it (Mint, Ubuntu).At 10/11/24 11:40 PM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:At 10/11/24 05:14 PM, OnixDark wrote:Debian ships with very outdated packages, it's meant to be as stable as possible. Arch is the opposite, it ships with the latest bleeding-edge software.At 10/11/24 09:18 AM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:At 10/11/24 08:37 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:Definitely the best for gaming. Valve made the right choice basing SteamOS 3 on Arch instead of Debian.At 10/10/24 02:15 PM, TheDeadlyMantis wrote:https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/the-arch-linux-team-is-now-working-directly-with-valve-steamos-and-arch-should-both-benefit-greatly
Not surprising, SteamOS is based on Arch. Valve's already done a lot for Linux Gaming with Proton. Love to see them working on support for multiple architectures.
Arch is the best Linux distro the, Especially Endeavour os, so it is nice that Valve decided to use Arch
what are debian's downsides for gaming?
Basically what Twig said, Debian is best suited for servers.
I dont think anyone has ever used Debian for every day stuff, it's like gaming on openBSD
Edit: Mint is based on Ubuntu, which is based on Debian. There's also Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE).
yeah, but i was thinking like vanilla Debian
me who is on mint and wondering about openGL alternatives because krita issues (i tried disabling acceleration, but haven't tested since)
What kind of issues? Are you using an AMD or Nvidia GPU?
on-board AMD. at some point, no matter what tool/settings i use, nothing modifies the canvas. i can't create an ellipse, can't stroke with the brush, nothing. i looked it up and seems to be a common issue.
Did you disable OpenGL? If so, re-enable that. Try going to Select -> Select All then Select -> Deselect.
