At 5/28/23 04:18 AM, biterrrr wrote:

At 5/5/23 02:58 PM, Kittykrewfan2006 wrote:Is there like a Linux distro that is designed to run off a usb that also saves the data?

I do not know any linux distro that cloud do that but I know one BSD called NomadBSD that designed for exactly that.

At 3/22/23 05:33 PM, OlTrout wrote:

At 3/4/23 05:33 PM, sincronikon wrote:Summoning @OlTrout *snicker*

This must've gotten buried in my notifications somewhere. Glad I popped into the forums to see I'm a highly sought-after Linux-enthusiast.

I'm on endeavourOS at the moment. I wanted to get up and running on an Arch-based system immediately without the headache of installing everything by hand again. I never made a script for re-installation like many Arch users do. I'm liking systemd boot over grub... Like a lot. The support for my Intel Arc A750 card has been pretty hit or miss, though, with each kernel update. But it's seeming to steady itself, slowly but surely.

I'm running the bspwm edition of endeavour. I used bspwm back when I first installed Arch a year ago, and my dotfiles were still on my GitHub. I can't imagine life without a keyboard-driven tiling window manager anymore. My brief stint with Mint made me realize that simple is better. Why would you ever need to resize a window or have your windows stack on top of one another? Seems like a silly gimmick from the early days of GUI desktop environments that never seemed to go away.

I have polybar this time around and I really don't see the appeal of having a status bar, beyond having the time displayed in a consistent location. But I'll leave it alone for now.

I originally posted my desktop in the desktop thread, but since general has closed its doors for the time being, I'll repost it here.

So I don't neck with Tux anymore

What you're referring to as "Tux" is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux...

At 6/20/23 09:37 AM, Kittykrewfan2006 wrote:

At 3/22/23 05:33 PM, OlTrout wrote:

At 3/4/23 05:33 PM, sincronikon wrote:Summoning @OlTrout *snicker*

This must've gotten buried in my notifications somewhere. Glad I popped into the forums to see I'm a highly sought-after Linux-enthusiast.

I'm on endeavourOS at the moment. I wanted to get up and running on an Arch-based system immediately without the headache of installing everything by hand again. I never made a script for re-installation like many Arch users do. I'm liking systemd boot over grub... Like a lot. The support for my Intel Arc A750 card has been pretty hit or miss, though, with each kernel update. But it's seeming to steady itself, slowly but surely.

I'm running the bspwm edition of endeavour. I used bspwm back when I first installed Arch a year ago, and my dotfiles were still on my GitHub. I can't imagine life without a keyboard-driven tiling window manager anymore. My brief stint with Mint made me realize that simple is better. Why would you ever need to resize a window or have your windows stack on top of one another? Seems like a silly gimmick from the early days of GUI desktop environments that never seemed to go away.

I have polybar this time around and I really don't see the appeal of having a status bar, beyond having the time displayed in a consistent location. But I'll leave it alone for now.

I originally posted my desktop in the desktop thread, but since general has closed its doors for the time being, I'll repost it here.

So I don't neck with Tux anymore

What you're referring to as "Tux" is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux...

hi,so like...can you please like teach me how to use like only window managers? cuz once i tried using i3 in endeavour os and it felt like trying to stand in deep water ya know? i other words i was confused

At 6/20/23 09:35 AM, Kittykrewfan2006 wrote:

At 5/28/23 04:18 AM, biterrrr wrote:

At 5/5/23 02:58 PM, Kittykrewfan2006 wrote:Is there like a Linux distro that is designed to run off a usb that also saves the data?

I do not know any linux distro that cloud do that but I know one BSD called NomadBSD that designed for exactly that.

does it come with a desktop ordo you need to install one?

At 6/21/23 01:22 AM, biterrrr wrote:

At 6/20/23 09:35 AM, Kittykrewfan2006 wrote:

At 5/28/23 04:18 AM, biterrrr wrote:

At 5/5/23 02:58 PM, Kittykrewfan2006 wrote:Is there like a Linux distro that is designed to run off a usb that also saves the data?

I do not know any linux distro that cloud do that but I know one BSD called NomadBSD that designed for exactly that.

does it come with a desktop ordo you need to install one?

It comes with desktop, network manager and pretty much everything that you need

At 6/27/23 12:28 PM, lwpage wrote:

At 6/25/23 05:33 AM, Roombaclock wrote:

At 6/25/23 04:24 AM, DestroyinASentry wrote:It appears that RHEL has gone proprietary

A Linux distro thats proprietary.....WTF ARE THEY SMOKING!???!!!??!?!?!

It's perfectly allowed. No distro would have the kernel itself be proprietary nor any GPL licensed stuff, but it's not uncommon for distros to mix together free software and proprietary stuff together. There probably are distros out there mostly proprietary as well minus the kernel and other bits.

At 6/27/23 01:32 PM, Roombaclock wrote:

At 6/27/23 12:28 PM, lwpage wrote:

At 6/25/23 05:33 AM, Roombaclock wrote:

At 6/25/23 04:24 AM, DestroyinASentry wrote:It appears that RHEL has gone proprietary

A Linux distro thats proprietary.....WTF ARE THEY SMOKING!???!!!??!?!?!

It's perfectly allowed. No distro would have the kernel itself be proprietary nor any GPL licensed stuff, but it's not uncommon for distros to mix together free software and proprietary stuff together. There probably are distros out there mostly proprietary as well minus the kernel and other bits.

Huh,makes sense,i mean it is Linux after all, but it just feels weird to see something that's open source be proprietary

At 6/27/23 12:27 PM, lwpage wrote:

At 6/25/23 04:24 AM, DestroyinASentry wrote:It appears that RHEL has gone proprietary

I don't think red hat makes their own code or modifies anything outside of the kernel. The only package that would raise eyebrows is kernel related stuff. The GPL specifically allows you to not have to share code if you don't make any changes to it. So RHEL is not proprietary, but it's still a dick move to only allow subscribers access to their source code tarballs.

At 6/29/23 01:09 PM, MidGoat wrote:

At 6/27/23 12:27 PM, lwpage wrote:

At 6/25/23 04:24 AM, DestroyinASentry wrote:It appears that RHEL has gone proprietary

I don't think red hat makes their own code or modifies anything outside of the kernel. The only package that would raise eyebrows is kernel related stuff. The GPL specifically allows you to not have to share code if you don't make any changes to it. So RHEL is not proprietary, but it's still a dick move to only allow subscribers access to their source code tarballs.

RHEL modifies userland programs extensively. They often backport fixes from newer releases of software to older versions, for example. GCC is a popular one. The problem isn't about the software itself - it's about the licensing of the repositories and their constituent packages. If the packages themselves are under a GPL-like/sharealike license, and customers are able to access them, but RHEL tries to restrict their sharealike rights using a second agreement (which is what's happening afaik) to prevent them from giving repos to non-customers... that's where the problem could arise.

Also, I use ed. Ed is the standard text editor.
Ed, man! !man ed

At 12/22/22 08:16 AM, Roombaclock wrote:this is a club for linux users! discuss you're distors what laptop/computer you have or in other words anything linux related! so anyways i use a linux distro called zorin os on a samsung r540 laptop with 1 terabyte hard drive and 4 gigs of ram

At 7/1/23 04:30 PM, squabbled wrote:

At 12/22/22 08:16 AM, Roombaclock wrote:this is a club for linux users! discuss you're distors what laptop/computer you have or in other words anything linux related! so anyways i use a linux distro called zorin os on a samsung r540 laptop with 1 terabyte hard drive and 4 gigs of ram

very nice chromium font holy crap

At 3/22/23 09:34 PM, sincronikon wrote:

So I don't neck with Tux anymore

What you're referring to as "Tux" is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux...

Richard Stallman has some wonderful foot trimmings I'm sure you'd... nevermind =D

[...] The support for my Intel Arc A750 card has been pretty hit or miss, though, with each kernel update. But it's seeming to steady itself, slowly but surely.

Regardless of how the thread goes, this would probably be great info for people to know about as you go along!

[crazy talk about guis and taskbars being unnecessary]

You're scaring the children, Trout ;).

I originally posted my desktop in the desktop thread

Nice!

Now to the group - in truth, I'm unlikely to run Linux as a main desktop,

At 7/14/23 08:46 AM, Roombaclock wrote:

At 3/22/23 09:34 PM, sincronikon wrote:

So I don't neck with Tux anymore

What you're referring to as "Tux" is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux...

Richard Stallman has some wonderful foot trimmings I'm sure you'd... nevermind =D

[...] The support for my Intel Arc A750 card has been pretty hit or miss, though, with each kernel update. But it's seeming to steady itself, slowly but surely.

Regardless of how the thread goes, this would probably be great info for people to know about as you go along!

[crazy talk about guis and taskbars being unnecessary]

You're scaring the children, Trout ;).

I originally posted my desktop in the desktop thread

Nice!

Now to the group - in truth, I'm unlikely to run Linux as a main desktop,

i would have probably had linux as my main desktop if i didnt have issues with games and nvidia drivers! :D

At 7/24/23 09:34 AM, lwpage wrote:You're on the internet, ready to post your daily stallman interjection pasta, and someone responds with the following counter-pasta:

No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation. Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ. One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you? (An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever. Embedded applications come to mind as an obvious example. Next, even if we limit the GNU/Linux title to the GNU-based Linux distributions, we run into another obvious problem. XFree86 may well be more important to a particular Linux installation than the sum of all the GNU contributions. More properly, shouldn't the distribution be called XFree86/Linux? Or, at a minimum, XFree86/GNU/Linux? Of course, it would be rather arbitrary to draw the line there when many other fine contributions go unlisted. Yes, I know you've heard this one before. Get used to it. You'll keep hearing it until you can cleanly counter it. You seem to like the lines-of-code metric. There are many lines of GNU code in a typical Linux distribution. You seem to suggest that (more LOC) == (more important). However, I submit to you that raw LOC numbers do not directly correlate with importance. I would suggest that clock cycles spent on code is a better metric. For example, if my system spends 90% of its time executing XFree86 code, XFree86 is probably the single most important collection of code on my system. Even if I loaded ten times as many lines of useless bloatware on my system and I never excuted that bloatware, it certainly isn't more important code than XFree86. Obviously, this metric isn't perfect either, but LOC really, really sucks. Please refrain from using it ever again in supporting any argument. Last, I'd like to point out that we Linux and GNU users shouldn't be fighting among ourselves over naming other people's software. But what the heck, I'm in a bad mood now. I think I'm feeling sufficiently obnoxious to make the point that GCC is so very famous and, yes, so very useful only because Linux was developed. In a show of proper respect and gratitude, shouldn't you and everyone refer to GCC as 'the Linux compiler'? Or at least, 'Linux GCC'? Seriously, where would your masterpiece be without Linux? Languishing with the HURD? If there is a moral buried in this rant, maybe it is this: Be grateful for your abilities and your incredible success and your considerable fame. Continue to use that success and fame for good, not evil. Also, be especially grateful for Linux' huge contribution to that success. You, RMS, the Free Software Foundation, and GNU software have reached their current high profiles largely on the back of Linux. You have changed the world. Now, go forth and don't be a nag.

How would you respond further?

At 9/5/23 05:53 PM, OlTrout wrote:Bad news Linux junkies, I'm joining the dark side and installing Windows 11 on my machine. I've been doing too much development of embedded software and designing circuits, as well as just banging my head against the wall over getting printers, scanners, third / fourth monitors, and fillable pdf documents working for Arch-based systems to be worth my time. I've also started getting interest in running AI assisted speech-to-text software tools, and they've been challenging to start up on my system. Using an Intel GPU on Linux had it's challenges, but it's even more complicated when wanting to run machine-learning software on said GPU.

I purchased a Windows 11 key today, backed up my files, and I'm making the switch this evening.

Don't worry, I still run Ubuntu on my home server and I'll likely dabble with the Linux environment stuff that Windows offers. Hell, I may even use a VM to run a tiling window manager on a separate desktop just to feel at home once in a while.

Here's to a hiatus from the operating system that's powered my machines for the last 16 years. I'm a big fat sellout. Love you all.