At 3/29/23 12:51 AM, sincronikon wrote:The time has come for me to admit defeat =D. "Back in the day", VirtualBox had some kind of x64 plugin or whatever that used to let *nix OS's pass thru on an x86_64 Windows host. I've tried a couple distros, and keep getting errors. What gives, peeps?

At 3/30/23 01:05 AM, Kittykrewfan2006 wrote:

At 3/29/23 12:51 AM, sincronikon wrote:The time has come for me to admit defeat =D. "Back in the day", VirtualBox had some kind of x64 plugin or whatever that used to let *nix OS's pass thru on an x86_64 Windows host. I've tried a couple distros, and keep getting errors. What gives, peeps?

So basically you were able to go into a backdoor in windows using a vm?

At 3/30/23 09:41 AM, MidGoat wrote:

At 3/29/23 12:51 AM, sincronikon wrote:The time has come for me to admit defeat =D. "Back in the day", VirtualBox had some kind of x64 plugin or whatever that used to let *nix OS's pass thru on an x86_64 Windows host. I've tried a couple distros, and keep getting errors. What gives, peeps?

Posting the errors would help. As for a first guess... perhaps the kernel didn't have the requisite modules loaded to access passed-through hardware? Alternatively, if you were trying to pass through a GPU, you can only pass through GPUs that aren't in use... to my knowledge. VirtualBox is known for being, uh, lacklustre though. You'd have better luck with something else, probably.

At 4/3/23 10:20 PM, HENOOB wrote:Even tho I agree using Linux even as an default OS, I still stick my hand into Windows due to how accessible Windows is for general stuff, for the people around me like my friends and family and also Gaming.

I use dual boot for both Windows 10 and Linux Mint 20.3 LTS

At 4/20/23 01:14 AM, Kittykrewfan2006 wrote:

At 4/3/23 10:20 PM, HENOOB wrote:Even tho I agree using Linux even as an default OS, I still stick my hand into Windows due to how accessible Windows is for general stuff, for the people around me like my friends and family and also Gaming.

I use dual boot for both Windows 10 and Linux Mint 20.3 LTS

One question:how do you even dualboot windows and Linux? Like do you have to create separate partitions or what?

At 4/20/23 01:14 AM, Kittykrewfan2006 wrote:

At 4/3/23 10:20 PM, HENOOB wrote:Even tho I agree using Linux even as an default OS, I still stick my hand into Windows due to how accessible Windows is for general stuff, for the people around me like my friends and family and also Gaming.

I use dual boot for both Windows 10 and Linux Mint 20.3 LTS

One question:how do you even dualboot windows and Linux? Like do you have to create separate partitions or what?

At 4/20/23 06:41 PM, MidGoat wrote:

At 4/20/23 01:14 AM, Kittykrewfan2006 wrote:

At 4/3/23 10:20 PM, HENOOB wrote:Even tho I agree using Linux even as an default OS, I still stick my hand into Windows due to how accessible Windows is for general stuff, for the people around me like my friends and family and also Gaming.

I use dual boot for both Windows 10 and Linux Mint 20.3 LTS

One question:how do you even dualboot windows and Linux? Like do you have to create separate partitions or what?

I'm lazy. I just install each OS I have onto a separate disk. That, or I just settle for running it on a VM.

At 4/22/23 03:37 PM, detergent1 wrote:yesterday I helped my friend set up a triple boot: Windows 10 + Kali Linux + Ubuntu. He left Windows partitions intact, shrinked Kali Linux's root partition down to 40 GB and the plan is for both Linuxes share their /home/ and swap partitions. I hope it all works out. we didn't sort out GRUB yet.

At 4/24/23 12:36 AM, Kittykrewfan2006 wrote:

At 4/22/23 03:37 PM, detergent1 wrote:yesterday I helped my friend set up a triple boot: Windows 10 + Kali Linux + Ubuntu. He left Windows partitions intact, shrinked Kali Linux's root partition down to 40 GB and the plan is for both Linuxes share their /home/ and swap partitions. I hope it all works out. we didn't sort out GRUB yet.

Damm…ok now THATS impressive ngl, altough why does he need 2 Linux distros?

At 4/20/23 07:25 PM, sincronikon wrote:

At 4/20/23 06:41 PM, MidGoat wrote:

At 4/20/23 01:14 AM, Kittykrewfan2006 wrote:

At 4/3/23 10:20 PM, HENOOB wrote:Even tho I agree using Linux even as an default OS, I still stick my hand into Windows due to how accessible Windows is for general stuff, for the people around me like my friends and family and also Gaming.

I use dual boot for both Windows 10 and Linux Mint 20.3 LTS

One question:how do you even dualboot windows and Linux? Like do you have to create separate partitions or what?

I'm lazy. I just install each OS I have onto a separate disk. That, or I just settle for running it on a VM.

Gonna second this approach, as I don't imagine it's changed much over the years. At worst, if something goes wrong using separate disks, all you wind up with is a bootloader problem. Which can be really annoying to resolve, but it's not the end of the world. Restore the bootloader -> wipe the bad disk -> try again.

@Kittykrewfan2006 -- I don't personally see a need for dual booting. It's nerdy and fun to try out, but computers are fast enough these days that virtualisation runs almost as close to the metal as possible. Typically, running either Windows or OSX as the host makes the most sense, as it's unlikely you'd ever be using Linux for serious GPU tasks (unless running a server farm).

As great as linux is because it's "free", it's not free of problems, and rarely makes sense to run as a desktop host unless you're dirt-broke; an ultra-nerd; currently educating yourself; or have a specific use case to depend on it.

At 4/25/23 10:55 AM, MidGoat wrote:Plus, when you run into problems on Unix (Linux in particular), there are swathes of enthusiasts who will scramble over themselves to help you, even if your problem is absolutely ridiculous; in contrast, Microsoft's support basically boils down to "did you run the diagnostic software" and waiting on hold for hours at a time.

At 5/1/23 05:56 PM, Gimmick wrote:

At 4/25/23 10:55 AM, MidGoat wrote:Plus, when you run into problems on Unix (Linux in particular), there are swathes of enthusiasts who will scramble over themselves to help you, even if your problem is absolutely ridiculous; in contrast, Microsoft's support basically boils down to "did you run the diagnostic software" and waiting on hold for hours at a time.

Maybe things have changed in GNU/Linux world a lot because I remember it being the norm that asking questions would result in you being told to RTFM. (With the joke being that it was glaringly obvious that the manual contained no information on the matter...)

And in principle I agree with the rest of your statement, but in practice the lack of mobilization for specific projects means that you're going to have a tough time getting where you want to if you're attempting things that have a tiny niche, whereas in Windows land even the tinier niches get a lot of development when corporate decides to put developer effort to it. Well, it isn't a Microsoft specific thing, but getting corporations to develop for Linux (or even OSS in general) is worse than pulling teeth sans anaesthetic.

For example, take Windows Mixed Reality - for all its flaws and general lack of upkeep, it's still plenty functional compared to equivalents in Linux because it's far too much a niche for Linux users (with some headsets just being unsupported on Linux, and most having only rudimentary support). Hell, I'd go so far as to say that running Windows games on Linux was a crapshoot for the better part of a the 2010s. I know that Proton is basically modified Wine, but without Valve's backing it would probably be even farther behind than it is now.

At 5/2/23 11:56 PM, MidGoat wrote:Regarding niches, I don't know enough to comment; as for the whole RTFM thing, it mostly depends on where and how you ask. Going to some place like Reddit or the Arch/Gentoo forums to ask about what an error message means will almost certainly get you an RTFM or equivalent, because you... didn't put any effort in yourself... not to mention a lot of those places reek of faux-intellectual superiority, and they're plenty happy to dab on newbies to preserve that image. In contrast, asking on the Linux stack exchanges, the Ubuntu or Debian mailing lists and forums, or reaching out to people on IRC, will generally yield better results (especially if your question shows that you've done a little bit of research on your own).

You may or may not have seen it, but ESR's article "How To Ask Questions The Smart Way" (http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html) is a good read that illustrates what I'm trying to get at.

At 5/5/23 03:28 PM, OlTrout wrote:

At 5/5/23 02:58 PM, Kittykrewfan2006 wrote:Is there like a Linux distro that is designed to run off a usb that also saves the data?

Most (major) distros should be installable onto a usb stick. 32 or 64 gig should be plenty. I believe you can partition the stick so that you have a bootable filesystem as well as a persistent filesystem. I won't be googling the specifics of how, or the ones which are very specifically for that purpose, but Ubuntu is one that I know for sure can be done this way. There's no reason something like Arch or Debian or Fedora couldn't also be done this way, however Ubuntu is one that I have personally used for this purpose.

At 5/6/23 11:03 AM, Kittykrewfan2006 wrote:

At 5/5/23 03:28 PM, OlTrout wrote:

At 5/5/23 02:58 PM, Kittykrewfan2006 wrote:Is there like a Linux distro that is designed to run off a usb that also saves the data?

Most (major) distros should be installable onto a usb stick. 32 or 64 gig should be plenty. I believe you can partition the stick so that you have a bootable filesystem as well as a persistent filesystem. I won't be googling the specifics of how, or the ones which are very specifically for that purpose, but Ubuntu is one that I know for sure can be done this way. There's no reason something like Arch or Debian or Fedora couldn't also be done this way, however Ubuntu is one that I have personally used for this purpose.

stupid ass question but:does there exist one that fits on a 8gb one?

At 5/6/23 11:23 AM, OlTrout wrote:

At 5/6/23 01:07 AM, DestroyinASentry wrote:

At 5/5/23 02:58 PM, Kittykrewfan2006 wrote:Is there like a Linux distro that is designed to run off a usb that also saves the data?

Tails

I thought I remembered reading that Tails advertised it's security and anonymity, but actually functioned as a suite to catch people who were up to shady activities by including backdoors and telemetry?

I might be remembering that wrong but that sounds pretty dishonest to me.

At 5/8/23 09:20 AM, DestroyinASentry wrote:

At 5/6/23 11:23 AM, OlTrout wrote:

At 5/6/23 01:07 AM, DestroyinASentry wrote:

At 5/5/23 02:58 PM, Kittykrewfan2006 wrote:Is there like a Linux distro that is designed to run off a usb that also saves the data?

Tails

I thought I remembered reading that Tails advertised it's security and anonymity, but actually functioned as a suite to catch people who were up to shady activities by including backdoors and telemetry?

I might be remembering that wrong but that sounds pretty dishonest to me.

Nope. Tails is a legit project. However it has been confirmed that the NSA has been targeting people who search for it. So be a bit cautions when trying to obtain it.

The "project" you're talking about was a supposedly secure phone called ANOM that was in fact, created and multiple law enforcement agencies agencies around the world including the FBI, the AFP and Europol and was used to target criminals.

At 5/16/23 10:31 AM, Mich wrote:Hey y'all; @ragnkinson suggested I'd be interested, so here I am, lol.

I run Arch Linux on my almost 10 year old desktop PC (Intel i5-4670K, 32GB RAM, don't recall what type/speed). I use the i3 tiling window manager with it which I've spent entirely too much time configuring to my liking. I also run Arch on my laptop, on an old laptop which is running Home Assistant and various network connected fun stuff for more nerdy bollocks.

I've still got a win10 install on a separate SSD in my main computer but very rarely boot to it. After getting used to i3wm and tiling windows for a daily driver, Windows feel painfully clunky to use, not just because of the floating windows, but because everything just seems to take so long.

Anyway, highly recommend checking out i3wm (goes with any distro I think, as long as you're using the X window system and not Wayland, though for that there's sway I guess). Very lightweight and snappy. :)

At 5/22/23 01:15 AM, Kittykrewfan2006 wrote:

At 5/16/23 10:31 AM, Mich wrote:I run Arch Linux on my almost 10 year old desktop PC (Intel i5-4670K, 32GB RAM, don't recall what type/speed).

Hey just a question considering you're specs:do you have like a Gaming pc?

At 5/22/23 04:29 AM, Mich wrote:

At 5/22/23 01:15 AM, Kittykrewfan2006 wrote:

At 5/16/23 10:31 AM, Mich wrote:I run Arch Linux on my almost 10 year old desktop PC (Intel i5-4670K, 32GB RAM, don't recall what type/speed).

Hey just a question considering you're specs:do you have like a Gaming pc?

Nah that's not what I put it together for, but I work as an android developer and do much programming in my spare time too, so the amount of RAM helps a lot for running device emulator and virtual machines.

At 5/22/23 03:10 PM, Kittykrewfan2006 wrote:

At 5/22/23 04:29 AM, Mich wrote:I work as an android developer and do much programming in my spare time too, so the amount of RAM helps a lot for running device emulator and virtual machines.

Makes sense.also what type of android apps do you make? (just curious,you don't have to answer if you dont want to)

At 5/23/23 04:07 AM, Mich wrote:

At 5/22/23 03:10 PM, Kittykrewfan2006 wrote:

At 5/22/23 04:29 AM, Mich wrote:I work as an android developer and do much programming in my spare time too, so the amount of RAM helps a lot for running device emulator and virtual machines.

Makes sense.also what type of android apps do you make? (just curious,you don't have to answer if you dont want to)

Internet radio, so browsing channels. streaming music playback and all the fun* integrations with the android system media playback entails. :)

*sometimes infuriating