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Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-09-12 07:58:33


I helped my father install a new drive in the upstairs computer. We put fedora on it and this thing is a linux powerhouse. Perfect for drawing, comic creation, and animation. It's simply awesome. I love it. I don't really have a reason to use windows right now unless I have to and haven't had the itch to distro hop for the past 3 days.

Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-09-12 10:09:03


At 9/12/23 07:58 AM, lwpage wrote:I helped my father install a new drive in the upstairs computer. We put fedora on it and this thing is a linux powerhouse. Perfect for drawing, comic creation, and animation. It's simply awesome. I love it. I don't really have a reason to use windows right now unless I have to and haven't had the itch to distro hop for the past 3 days.


I do actually wanna reinstall vanilla arch onto my laptop but the issue is that it for some reason it doesnt detect my wifi card or my Ethernet card,

Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-09-15 14:43:49


decided to go back to linux (i'm still dualbooting with windows so i can run windows only games) and installed llinux mint

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Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-09-16 02:26:52


At 9/15/23 02:43 PM, Roombaclock wrote:decided to go back to linux (i'm still dualbooting with windows so i can run windows only games) and installed llinux mint


neofetch

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Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-09-17 23:01:49


Anyone here wanna try out linux on a Wii, Switch, Wii U, or maybe 3DS? I have some things I am working on.


PH4NT0M117

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Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-09-18 01:01:08


At 9/17/23 11:01 PM, PH4NT0M117 wrote:Anyone here wanna try out linux on a Wii, Switch, Wii U, or maybe 3DS? I have some things I am working on.


I have heard of it,altough unfortunately i dont have any of those consoles :p,but can you run linux on a ps4? Cuz i do have one

Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-09-18 02:57:07


At 9/18/23 01:01 AM, Roombaclock wrote:
At 9/17/23 11:01 PM, PH4NT0M117 wrote:Anyone here wanna try out linux on a Wii, Switch, Wii U, or maybe 3DS? I have some things I am working on.

I have heard of it,altough unfortunately i dont have any of those consoles :p,but can you run linux on a ps4? Cuz i do have one


You gotta install a HEN package first, but yeah


PH4NT0M117

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Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-09-18 23:49:34


I have this group assignment for computer networking class, where we must implement NAT, using Python, Mininet and Scapy


Ubuntu Server 22.x on VirtualBox, then Joe's Window Manager (JWM)

screen resize works, clipboard worked after a hack for xterm in .Xresources config file

aesthetics look old-school, mouse-driven, quite sane WM for some quick hacking


my friend did most of the programming today, but everything was super slow! mouse lagged, keyboard lagged, console output lagged, text selection lagged! at least he got clipboard working out of the box magically lol. another friend is getting different things every time he runs the same code, maybe he unlocked undefined behavior in Python?


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O prudente varão há de ser mudo,

Que é melhor neste mundo, mar de enganos,

Ser louco c’os demais, que só, sisudo

Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-09-19 11:03:59


At 9/18/23 11:49 PM, detergent1 wrote:I have this group assignment for computer networking class, where we must implement NAT, using Python, Mininet and Scapy

Ubuntu Server 22.x on VirtualBox, then Joe's Window Manager (JWM)
screen resize works, clipboard worked after a hack for xterm in .Xresources config file
aesthetics look old-school, mouse-driven, quite sane WM for some quick hacking

my friend did most of the programming today, but everything was super slow! mouse lagged, keyboard lagged, console output lagged, text selection lagged! at least he got clipboard working out of the box magically lol. another friend is getting different things every time he runs the same code, maybe he unlocked undefined behavior in Python?


lol my first instinct would be to get rid of ubuntu and run Void or Adelie so I have the lowest amount of resource bashing as I can possibly get. Are you running min spec for your VM and is the Host provided by the school?


PH4NT0M117

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Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-09-19 13:02:57


At 9/18/23 11:49 PM, detergent1 wrote:I have this group assignment for computer networking class, where we must implement NAT, using Python, Mininet and Scapy

Ubuntu Server 22.x on VirtualBox, then Joe's Window Manager (JWM)
screen resize works, clipboard worked after a hack for xterm in .Xresources config file
aesthetics look old-school, mouse-driven, quite sane WM for some quick hacking

my friend did most of the programming today, but everything was super slow! mouse lagged, keyboard lagged, console output lagged, text selection lagged! at least he got clipboard working out of the box magically lol. another friend is getting different things every time he runs the same code, maybe he unlocked undefined behavior in Python?


Dude you have cmatrix running, which is a massive resource hog. It's also possible your algorithm is really inefficient.

Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-09-19 18:47:11


At 9/19/23 01:42 AM, wxr wrote:
At 9/18/23 11:49 PM, detergent1 wrote:I have this group assignment for computer networking class, where we must implement NAT, using Python, Mininet and Scapy

Ubuntu Server 22.x on VirtualBox, then Joe's Window Manager (JWM)
screen resize works, clipboard worked after a hack for xterm in .Xresources config file
aesthetics look old-school, mouse-driven, quite sane WM for some quick hacking

my friend did most of the programming today, but everything was super slow! mouse lagged, keyboard lagged, console output lagged, text selection lagged! at least he got clipboard working out of the box magically lol. another friend is getting different things every time he runs the same code, maybe he unlocked undefined behavior in Python?

Looks very complicated and extensive. Is it really that hard?


honestly I only have a high-level understanding of NAT, but it seems simple. just some translations and keeping a table. this assignment will let us explore it in a very low-level, which is super cool.

as for Mininet and Scapy, their documentation is very bad, so understanding the two libraries is the biggest challenge


O prudente varão há de ser mudo,

Que é melhor neste mundo, mar de enganos,

Ser louco c’os demais, que só, sisudo

Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-09-19 18:51:08


At 9/19/23 11:03 AM, PH4NT0M117 wrote:lol my first instinct would be to get rid of ubuntu and run Void or Adelie so I have the lowest amount of resource bashing as I can possibly get. Are you running min spec for your VM and is the Host provided by the school?


At 9/19/23 01:02 PM, OlTrout wrote:Dude you have cmatrix running, which is a massive resource hog. It's also possible your algorithm is really inefficient.


I think I may have not worded properly, each one of us has set a different VM, mine is running fine and has enough resources, but my friend went for the full fledged desktop Ubuntu, maybe its DE is at fault :P

Ubuntu itself was chosen, because Mininet is only tested on Ubuntu X_x and sometimes Fedora :P

cmatrix was only for the screencap hehe


O prudente varão há de ser mudo,

Que é melhor neste mundo, mar de enganos,

Ser louco c’os demais, que só, sisudo

Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-09-22 18:12:34


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hello

Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-10-20 22:00:10


Hey, does anyone who really, strongly enjoys troubleshooting want to help me figure out why the downloaded and unzipped Piskel executable (for Linux) won't do anything when told to run by double-clicking or from within a terminal on Ubuntu? Maybe at least help me figure out how to get the program to work?

Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-10-20 22:16:33


At 10/20/23 10:00 PM, shadowfals wrote:Hey, does anyone who really, strongly enjoys troubleshooting want to help me figure out why the downloaded and unzipped Piskel executable (for Linux) won't do anything when told to run by double-clicking or from within a terminal on Ubuntu? Maybe at least help me figure out how to get the program to work?


cd to the directory where you unzipped the file and then try

chmod +x filename
./filename

Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-10-20 22:43:14 (edited 2023-10-20 22:45:48)


OMG, a response already? <happy-face>


At 10/20/23 10:16 PM, OlTrout wrote:cd to the directory where you unzipped the file and then try


returns

error while loading shared libraries: libgconf-2.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


I've found instructions online about what to do next. Unfortunately, I don't understand them. Do you know how I'm supposed to point what to where?


(ldconfig isn't resolving the error.)

Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-10-20 22:57:37


At 10/20/23 10:43 PM, shadowfals wrote:OMG, a response already? <happy-face>
At 10/20/23 10:16 PM, OlTrout wrote:cd to the directory where you unzipped the file and then try


returns

I've found instructions online about what to do next. Unfortunately, I don't understand them. Do you know how I'm supposed to point what to where?

(ldconfig isn't resolving the error.)


You might want the check the developer's webpage directly to see if they have any information about dependencies or how to install them.

Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-10-21 00:01:20


At 10/20/23 10:57 PM, OlTrout wrote:You might want the check the developer's webpage directly to see if they have any information about dependencies or how to install them.


Okay. I think I found it.


https://github.com/piskelapp/piskel/wiki/Building-desktop-applications


The instructions are from 2016 and say to use Grunt. I looked up what Grunt was, checked its resource needs after install, then came to the decision to give up on using the desktop Piskel again. Because of network problems since the switch to Linux—making me wary of data loss using the online version—I might give up on Piskel altogether.


New Question:

Does anyone here know of a good pixel art editor that work wells with Linux?

Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-10-21 00:19:49


At 10/21/23 12:01 AM, shadowfals wrote:
At 10/20/23 10:57 PM, OlTrout wrote:You might want the check the developer's webpage directly to see if they have any information about dependencies or how to install them.

Okay. I think I found it.

https://github.com/piskelapp/piskel/wiki/Building-desktop-applications

The instructions are from 2016 and say to use Grunt. I looked up what Grunt was, checked its resource needs after install, then came to the decision to give up on using the desktop Piskel again. Because of network problems since the switch to Linux—making me wary of data loss using the online version—I might give up on Piskel altogether.

New Question:
Does anyone here know of a good pixel art editor that work wells with Linux?


I don't know a ton about making pixel art, but GIMP and Krita both technically "support" making pixel art. They're common enough pieces of software that you'll definitely be able to install them with ease, and find really good resources on making pixel art with them.

Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-10-22 22:56:17


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Here's my current Linux desktop. I just started throwing random WMs, and DEs at the wall, and see what sticks. Currently I think it looks fine. I was trying to go for a Windows 3.1 style UI. I'll probably either just switch back to using XFCE, or KDE (once I eventually get tired of this desktop), or use DWM, or I3, and never leave my house again. One thing I'll give it is that when no programs are running, it only uses about 450 Megabites of ram. Pretty good considering my Laptop only has 8 Gigs.


-Enzo

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Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-10-23 06:32:39


ya know, the linux club is like that drunk alchoholic dad that returns every once in a while, but in a goof way

Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-10-24 22:42:18


At 10/21/23 12:01 AM, shadowfals wrote:
At 10/20/23 10:57 PM, OlTrout wrote:You might want the check the developer's webpage directly to see if they have any information about dependencies or how to install them.

Okay. I think I found it.

https://github.com/piskelapp/piskel/wiki/Building-desktop-applications

The instructions are from 2016 and say to use Grunt. I looked up what Grunt was, checked its resource needs after install, then came to the decision to give up on using the desktop Piskel again. Because of network problems since the switch to Linux—making me wary of data loss using the online version—I might give up on Piskel altogether.

New Question:
Does anyone here know of a good pixel art editor that work wells with Linux?


mtPaint. It's a really solid general purpose paint program, but it has explicit support for pixel-level editing.

https://github.com/wjaguar/mtPaint

Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-10-25 13:22:12


At 10/23/23 06:32 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:ya know, the linux club is like that drunk alchoholic dad that returns every once in a while, but in a goof way


In a good way lol, how tf did i misspell that

Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-12-03 17:06:24


At 10/25/23 01:22 PM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:
At 10/23/23 06:32 AM, Scout-from-tfc wrote:ya know, the linux club is like that drunk alchoholic dad that returns every once in a while, but in a goof way

In a good way lol, how tf did i misspell that


I totally believed you meant goof.

Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-12-03 17:31:38


At 10/24/23 10:42 PM, MidGoat wrote:
At 10/21/23 12:01 AM, shadowfals wrote:Does anyone here know of a good pixel art editor that work wells with Linux?

mtPaint. It's a really solid general purpose paint program, but it has explicit support for pixel-level editing.
https://github.com/wjaguar/mtPaint


mtPaint looks more difficult to use than I have the brainpower for most days, but I want to poke at it more on a good day. Learning enough to use it as backup for Piskel would be nice.


I've been somewhat happy with KolourPaint as a backup for edits like scaling. I think it's equivalent to Paint.net on Windows. to It's less satisfying for drawing pixel art from a blank canvas.


At 10/21/23 12:19 AM, OlTrout wrote:I don't know a ton about making pixel art, but G[nu]IMP and Krita both technically "support" making pixel art. They're common enough pieces of software that you'll definitely be able to install them with ease, and find really good resources on making pixel art with them.


Krita has been disappointingly glitchy for me. If I get around to troubleshooting everything that gets in my way when it goes wrong, then I'll figure out how to make better pixel art brushes. The default settings on the brushes I've got are inconvenient for pixel-by-pixel placement.


Anyhoo! I'm back here to share an answer to my first question.


At 10/21/23 12:01 AM, shadowfals wrote:Okay. I think I found it.

https://github.com/piskelapp/piskel/wiki/Building-desktop-applications


The instructions on Github are for a manual build. I still don't know what a manual build is other than it has something to do with developers or programmers—not regular artists.


I've figured out what the rest of us can do and written out instructions on how to do it.


Download the zip file from https://www.piskelapp.com/download.


Unzip the file. (There are several methods. I've forgotten which worked for me after a few failed attempts.)


The unzipped file is a directory called "Piskel-0.11.0-64bits".


Open a terminal. (The keyboard shortcut is Ctlr + Alt + T).


Enter "cd Piskel-0.11.0-64bits" if the directory was saved to home. Otherwise, copy the directory's location then enter "cd" followed by the full address to select the directory in the terminal.


Then enter "./piskel".


Did the program open? If yes, congrats!


If the last prompt returns an error about libgconf like it was for me, then first install libgconf-2-4 from your package manager. For example, enter "sudo apt install libgconf-2-4" into a console. (Tip source: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37624225/shared-libraries-libgconf-2-so-4-is-missing)


When Piskel is opened from the terminal console, you can close it with Ctrl + C.


Okay, but what if you don't want to use the terminal to open it each time? We don't have to. There are two options I understand.


1. Manually open Piskel from the directory.


Navigate to the directory.


Find "piskel" in the directory.


Select the file to open it.


When asked "What do you wish to do with this file?" select "Do not ask again" (if desired) then "Execute".


2. Set up a terminal shortcut.


Find the instructions from lokonu (Apr 2019) at https://askubuntu.com/questions/917704/how-do-i-install-run-piskel-after-it-was-downloaded).


You'll need an editor like Nano, Emacs, or Vim to edit the file.

Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-12-10 14:08:50


Hey comrades! Another Mint user here.

Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-12-28 00:19:47


I have a bit of a silly idea:

What if there was a GNU/Linux musical?

I don't know why, but this format with this theme seems like a good match to me.

It might start with the conception of Unix. There would be a leitmotif associated with Linus Thorvald, the Linux Kernel and the Linux foundation, which would be very binary, like a penguins steps, which would sound cute and silly when it's just a song about Linus hacking on his computer as a hobby; but that could become cold and ominous in some later songs when conflicts start to arise.

Another leitmotif, this time for Richard Stallman, the GNU project and the Free Software foundation would have a more grandiloquent air to it, like a kind of communist hymn to underline a more political conception of free software; but becoming gloomy and mournful as RMS turns into a tragic figure. These two leitmotives would only be heard simultaneously once in a song about the merge, which would mark the end of the first act and the beginning of the conflict between the two visions of open source.


Of course, this is just a thought in the air right now, not a serious project. Unless..?

Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-12-28 06:22:17


At 12/28/23 12:19 AM, LoaExMachina wrote:I have a bit of a silly idea:
What if there was a GNU/Linux musical?
I don't know why, but this format with this theme seems like a good match to me.
It might start with the conception of Unix. There would be a leitmotif associated with Linus Thorvald, the Linux Kernel and the Linux foundation, which would be very binary, like a penguins steps, which would sound cute and silly when it's just a song about Linus hacking on his computer as a hobby; but that could become cold and ominous in some later songs when conflicts start to arise.
Another leitmotif, this time for Richard Stallman, the GNU project and the Free Software foundation would have a more grandiloquent air to it, like a kind of communist hymn to underline a more political conception of free software; but becoming gloomy and mournful as RMS turns into a tragic figure. These two leitmotives would only be heard simultaneously once in a song about the merge, which would mark the end of the first act and the beginning of the conflict between the two visions of open source.

Of course, this is just a thought in the air right now, not a serious project. Unless..?

Not sure if this counts, but SUSE (Who also make OpenSUSE), often make these parody songs.



"Premature optimization is the root of all evil"

~Donald Knuth

Response to newgrounds linux club! 2023-12-28 21:57:09


At 12/28/23 06:22 AM, xeiavica wrote:
At 12/28/23 12:19 AM, LoaExMachina wrote:I have a bit of a silly idea:
What if there was a GNU/Linux musical?
I don't know why, but this format with this theme seems like a good match to me.
It might start with the conception of Unix. There would be a leitmotif associated with Linus Thorvald, the Linux Kernel and the Linux foundation, which would be very binary, like a penguins steps, which would sound cute and silly when it's just a song about Linus hacking on his computer as a hobby; but that could become cold and ominous in some later songs when conflicts start to arise.
Another leitmotif, this time for Richard Stallman, the GNU project and the Free Software foundation would have a more grandiloquent air to it, like a kind of communist hymn to underline a more political conception of free software; but becoming gloomy and mournful as RMS turns into a tragic figure. These two leitmotives would only be heard simultaneously once in a song about the merge, which would mark the end of the first act and the beginning of the conflict between the two visions of open source.

Of course, this is just a thought in the air right now, not a serious project. Unless..?
Not sure if this counts, but SUSE (Who also make OpenSUSE), often make these parody songs.

That's kinda the idea, but imagine a whole movie like this telling the history of Linux and there'd be songs in chronological order telling from the perspectives of characters like Dennis Ritchie, Linus Thorvald, Richard Stallman... Think like Hamilton if you've seen it. But since we're on Newgrounds, it could be a cartoon...

Response to newgrounds linux club! 2024-01-25 13:23:23


Do people still use Ubuntu?