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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-01 12:26:43


At 12/1/15 12:50 AM, MSGhero wrote: Flash Pro => Animate.

http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2015/11/flash-html5-and-open-web-standards.html?scid=social_20151201_55826586&adbid=671559505906282496&adbpl=tw&adbpr=63786611

http://blogs.adobe.com/flashpro/welcome-adobe-animate-cc-a-new-era-for-flash-professional/

http://www.twitch.tv/adobe

FlashDevelop => AnimateDevelop?

Jazza will be having a stream at the adobe studios to try it out later today, im curious what his impressions are. I wasn't that impressed with the promo video, it seems more for the amateur than the hardened animator.

Adobe Edge was / is shit so I'm curious where this new version of Flash will fall into. Some news is better than no news i figure.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-01 13:56:50


At 12/1/15 12:50 AM, MSGhero wrote: Flash Pro => Animate.

Maybe this will make people will finally learn that Adobe Flash was not designed for developing games. (A man can dream.)

Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-01 18:03:18


At 12/1/15 01:56 PM, Diki wrote:
At 12/1/15 12:50 AM, MSGhero wrote: Flash Pro => Animate.
Maybe this will make people will finally learn that Adobe Flash was not designed for developing games. (A man can dream.)

they still spent 10 years working mostly on game development features of it

I'm a bit worried the rest of the program is going to atrophy now

Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-01 19:24:30


At 12/1/15 06:03 PM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: they still spent 10 years working mostly on game development features of it

Yeah, saying it "wasn't designed" that way was a poor choice of words; it's just very, very non-optimal (like trying to swim while carrying a ten-pin bowling ball).

Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-01 20:45:56


At 12/1/15 01:56 PM, Diki wrote: Maybe this will make people will finally learn that Adobe Flash was not designed for developing games. (A man can dream.)

I honestly never saw a problem with using AS3 for game development. It handles any pattern I throw at it just as well as any other language, and while limited in some aspects (come on, operator overloading) it excels in others (the event system, while still flawed in places, is one of the best implementations I've ever seen) - just like any other language.

Let's face it: C++ wasn't explicitly designed for game development, yet here we are with every AAA-title ever being made in it (with C# fast-approaching thanks to Unity)

I feel like since AS3 started to implement game-centralized classes it's become a better language than most for game development. It still runs under a VM, has a ton of security flaws, and limits a lot of what you can do in its browser sandbox, but despite all that it's still a great, easy-to-learn-and-use language.

Also, this


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-01 21:48:52


At 12/1/15 08:45 PM, egg82 wrote: I honestly never saw a problem with using AS3 for game development. It handles any pattern I throw at it just as well as any other language, and while limited in some aspects (come on, operator overloading) it excels in others (the event system, while still flawed in places, is one of the best implementations I've ever seen) - just like any other language.

As3 is fine, he meant Flash Pro the tool being shit for gamedev and everyone coming to the forums asking how to code with it.

but haxe is better

Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-02 17:40:17


At 12/1/15 09:48 PM, MSGhero wrote: As3 is fine, he meant Flash Pro the tool being shit for gamedev and everyone coming to the forums asking how to code with it.

Man, I wasted a perfectly good rebuttal :(

I didn't know people still used Flash Pro to develop?
If that's the case, I'm happy for the name change. Maybe it'll steer people away from using it to code.

but haxe is better

Yeah, I'm still working on developing this new game before I port it over to haxe.
Problem is this game is too big for this laptop any more. I'm having a difficult time making changes and re-compiling in a reasonable amount of time. It's really making me lose my steam for the project :/


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-02 20:52:34


I'm pretty over flash at this point. It's been probably a year and a half since I even touched ActionScript.

I think there are a lot of good ideas there that haven't really been implemented in other languages. Namely with the art pipeline. Unity has some of that.

AS3 was a pretty nice language. I agree with egg on that. Javascript is still catching up in terms of certain OO features. But many people oppose OO features in javascript.

I also think the display object API was awesome. Pixi.js emulates it in javascript. OpenFL in Haxe also does a good job.

I'm still not as fast in anything else as I was in Flash. I can't get into Unity. It's just not my thing. I've been using javascript/canvas/WebGL, but it still takes me forever to do anything compared to Flash.

Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-02 21:28:39


At 12/2/15 08:52 PM, PrettyMuchBryce wrote: I also think the display object API was awesome. Pixi.js emulates it in javascript. OpenFL in Haxe also does a good job.

I feel like even if I wasn't ever targeting flash with openfl, I would still test with flash for fast compiles and good debugging. Debugging cpp that one time was awful since I've hardly touched C.

I mean, I'm intending on making a steam game, and I haven't compiled my game to cpp in 7 months (haxe is broken af).

Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-04 10:19:08


At 12/1/15 07:24 PM, Diki wrote:
At 12/1/15 06:03 PM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: they still spent 10 years working mostly on game development features of it
Yeah, saying it "wasn't designed" that way was a poor choice of words; it's just very, very non-optimal (like trying to swim while carrying a ten-pin bowling ball).

That sounds way more like HTML5/JS than flash to me


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-04 12:07:28


At 12/4/15 10:19 AM, Rustygames wrote: That sounds way more like HTML5/JS than flash to me

I wasn't referring to Flash technology, I was referring to the Adobe Flash IDE.

Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-04 15:02:15


At 12/4/15 12:07 PM, Diki wrote:
At 12/4/15 10:19 AM, Rustygames wrote: That sounds way more like HTML5/JS than flash to me
I wasn't referring to Flash technology, I was referring to the Adobe Flash IDE.

It's been confused twice in the past couple messages, proof that the rebranding is necessary!

Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-04 23:05:59


At 12/4/15 03:02 PM, MSGhero wrote: It's been confused twice in the past couple messages, proof that the rebranding is necessary!

Next we'll see animators trying to use FlashDevelop for the frame-by-frames.

Also, I made a thing that is entirely unnecessary and kinda fun.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-04 23:15:52


At 12/4/15 11:05 PM, egg82 wrote: Next we'll see animators trying to use FlashDevelop for the frame-by-frames.

AnimateDevelop. Sublime Animate. Animate++. G-Animate. Animate Prompt. Microsoft Animate 2016.

Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-05 02:19:18


At 12/4/15 11:15 PM, MSGhero wrote: AnimateDevelop. Sublime Animate. Animate++. G-Animate. Animate Prompt. Microsoft Animate 2016.

Good to know I'm not the only one spending their time o pointless things :P


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-07 00:11:49


Every day I get an e-mail from my server that says this
I want to believe it's telling me that sometimes it feels like life doesn't deal you a great hand and you need to learn when to fold and count the chips you have as blessings, and that in the end everything will turn out alright.

Or it could simply be telling me the MySQL backup succeeded, but that's not quite as deep.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-08 06:45:02


New post! I took three days to write about infinity.
</shamelessPlug>


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-08 11:30:34


At 12/8/15 06:45 AM, egg82 wrote: New post! I took three days to write about infinity.
</shamelessPlug>

It always makes me smile when someone acknowledges, in some form, that they are doing a 'shameless plug'. I don't know why it makes me happy it just does haha :)

Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-08 14:23:46


At 12/8/15 11:30 AM, Hero101 wrote: It always makes me smile when someone acknowledges, in some form, that they are doing a 'shameless plug'. I don't know why it makes me happy it just does haha :)

It's basically free advertising to people I think might have an interest in these kinds of posts. I'm not the only one who does it, of course, and this isn't the only place I've shamelessly plugged my stuff on, but it works really well :)

So far my website has slightly more than paid for its own cost over the last week, and that's with only a single, simple banner ad on each page. Yay!


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-08 14:32:59


At 12/8/15 02:23 PM, egg82 wrote: It's basically free advertising to people I think might have an interest in these kinds of posts. I'm not the only one who does it, of course, and this isn't the only place I've shamelessly plugged my stuff on, but it works really well :)

So far my website has slightly more than paid for its own cost over the last week, and that's with only a single, simple banner ad on each page. Yay!

Haha I'll keep that in mind should I ever need to drive traffic to something of mine. I gotta say your website is, for a lack of a better word, different than what I'm used to seeing. What did you use to make it? Like did you create it using some web-hosting tools or service and, if so, which ones?

Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-08 15:35:30


http://imgur.com/a9FBY0s

They not only want me to re-enable the shell_exec function, but also to ALLOW APACHE TO RUN JAVA AS ROOT?
Fuck off! Closure compiler is NOT worth that, as much as I may REALLY want it.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-08 15:42:28


At 12/8/15 02:32 PM, Hero101 wrote: Haha I'll keep that in mind should I ever need to drive traffic to something of mine. I gotta say your website is, for a lack of a better word, different than what I'm used to seeing. What did you use to make it? Like did you create it using some web-hosting tools or service and, if so, which ones?

My entire website is made up of:
Namecheap
Comodo SSL
Afterburst
Ubuntu, Apache, PHP
Wordpress

I implemented some custom security measures myself.

I've been working on getting W3 total cache to play nicely with bigfoot.js all day. I just want nice-looking footnotes without having to severely compromise my security :(


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-08 15:43:04


At 12/8/15 03:35 PM, egg82 wrote: http://imgur.com/a9FBY0s

They not only want me to re-enable the shell_exec function, but also to ALLOW APACHE TO RUN JAVA AS ROOT?
Fuck off! Closure compiler is NOT worth that, as much as I may REALLY want it.

Not really sure what that means, but I'd have to install Java to download a vpn client my school's service requires. There's a beta in-browser ssl vpn that works pretty well, just a bit annoying if I want multiple pages.

Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-08 15:45:10


At 12/8/15 02:23 PM, egg82 wrote:
So far my website has slightly more than paid for its own cost over the last week, and that's with only a single, simple banner ad on each page. Yay!

How many views does that require? I was under the impression that a banner ad was slightly better than a flash ad.

Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-08 16:23:11


At 12/8/15 03:43 PM, MSGhero wrote: Not really sure what that means, but I'd have to install Java to download a vpn client my school's service requires. There's a beta in-browser ssl vpn that works pretty well, just a bit annoying if I want multiple pages.

I got frustrated slightly. I'm using W3 Total Cache for my Wordpress's caching system, and I wanted to minify my JS with Google's Closure Compiler instead of the default to see if that would fix a problem I'm having with another plugin (WP-Bigfoot, which is basically a wrapper for bigfoot.js) - but that required three things:
1. That I install Java on my server
2. That I enable exec or shell_exec for PHP (which I disabled because security)
3. That I allow PHP +rx to my ENTIRE system (disabling PHP's open_basedir directive)
4. That I give Java root execute permissions when running from Apache/PHP

If that doesn't sound like a full-root exploit waiting to happen, I don't know what does.

At 12/8/15 03:45 PM, MSGhero wrote: How many views does that require? I was under the impression that a banner ad was slightly better than a flash ad.

http://imgur.com/CypdVV5
My server costs $7.50/mo + $9.99/yr + $9.99/yr


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-08 16:37:10


At 12/8/15 04:23 PM, egg82 wrote: http://imgur.com/CypdVV5

What is that rpm jeez.

Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-08 18:47:16


At 12/8/15 03:42 PM, egg82 wrote: My entire website is made up of:
PHP

:(

Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-08 20:41:56 (edited 2015-12-08 20:42:32)


At 12/8/15 06:47 PM, Diki wrote:
At 12/8/15 03:42 PM, egg82 wrote: PHP
):

When they develop Wordpress for something other than PHP, I'll happily switch. Believe me, I don't want to use PHP either. Such a huge security risk..


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-08 23:29:28


At 12/8/15 08:41 PM, egg82 wrote: When they develop Wordpress for something other than PHP, I'll happily switch. Believe me, I don't want to use PHP either. Such a huge security risk..

Quokka is a pretty lightweight CMS built on top of Flask. If you're looking for something more heavy-duty, there's Mezzanine. There's also all the crap listed here and here. No point in tying yourself to the ungodly pile of shit that is PHP.

Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2015-12-09 04:52:23 (edited 2015-12-09 05:01:00)


At 12/8/15 11:29 PM, Diki wrote: Quokka is a pretty lightweight CMS built on top of Flask. If you're looking for something more heavy-duty, there's Mezzanine. There's also all the crap listed here and here. No point in tying yourself to the ungodly pile of shit that is PHP.

Where were you when I was deciding on what CMS I would use for my blog?

Anyway, I tried out Quokka on my local machine (I love being booted into Lubuntu when I do server work) and it looks nice, but there's zero support for it. No plugins, no themes, nothing. That's a huge problem for me.

I also looked at Mazzanine quickly. Not looking good, I must say.

Wordpress is simply too big to discredit it. I've been looking at a few solutions to see if there was a way to somehow port the whole thing to Django, but I'm not exactly optimistic.

Basically, I don't want to completely screw up my main blog now that I've got SEO, CDN, CloudFlare, a good theme, and some good plugins working nicely together; along with a reasonable amount of views.

I'll probably use a Python-based CMS on my portfolio website when I get a domain and clear out some room on one of my VPSs.

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Also, does anyone know that I also made this? Honestly even I forget it exists sometimes. It just kinda something I re-visit every now and again, but I like the concept so it's staying forever.


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