At 5/5/06 09:48 PM, WawaneesA wrote: Much controversial I see.

You should give him co-author, even you told him everything about how the game should function. Could you do it?
Probably No.
Then he helped you a lot. Because a game idea and a very elaborated plan is nothing without coding it.

Make Him co-author.
^^

It's not an advice, it's an order

i agree. You would have never been able to make this game if he hadnt coded it for you. Sure, it was youre idea, but it just wouldve stayed an idea, if he hadnt coded it. Co-Author him

=)

I'm totally on neg's side of the issue here, but, what are we really going to do about it?

Hate mail and mass downvoting wont accomplish much and just bring us down to his level. There must be something we could do to get out points accross. If we keep being stubborn about this issue we're bound to have some affect.

I recall some people talking about making a collab or a music video or some project in regards to this, and i think that is a good idea. Remember the flash "ebaums world dot com"? That definetly worked for them, it sent out the message they wanted to convey, they brought the issue to attention, and it had alot of positive impact. We could make something similar, but instead of hating on Ryan as much, we could just support neg and unjustify Ryan's actions.

So what are we going to do about it?

At 5/7/06 02:15 PM, animoney1 wrote: I'm totally on neg's side of the issue here, but, what are we really going to do about it?

Hate mail and mass downvoting wont accomplish much and just bring us down to his level. There must be something we could do to get out points accross. If we keep being stubborn about this issue we're bound to have some affect.

I recall some people talking about making a collab or a music video or some project in regards to this, and i think that is a good idea. Remember the flash "ebaums world dot com"? That definetly worked for them, it sent out the message they wanted to convey, they brought the issue to attention, and it had alot of positive impact. We could make something similar, but instead of hating on Ryan as much, we could just support neg and unjustify Ryan's actions.

So what are we going to do about it?

Naaah, whats the point in all that work when Tom Neg and Ryan, or just Neg and Ryan, or whoever could just talk it over. Seems silly to me.

Plus did you notice all the bullshit eBaums flash bought? Everyone and there sister now will not shutup about how ebaums is oh so terrible, yet where probably visiting there a few days before.

Ryan at the end of the day is still a good artist and that. Something will be sorted out, but as a said a few pages back, a few posts back if you ignore all the spam, why does any action need to be taken by us? we've shown our support, thats all we should do.

Onnet92 is actually the annoying Fag, and I am 13, and Yam.........r u authorgreens.......If u r, then ur more annoying than I am...

At 5/7/06 03:15 PM, KTHonFire wrote: Onnet92 is actually the annoying Fag, and I am 13, and Yam.........r u authorgreens.......If u r, then ur more annoying than I am...

Learn to spell please.
Yes, my alt on NGC is auothrgreens.

At 5/7/06 03:15 PM, KTHonFire wrote: and I am 13

Seriously?!? That makes you so mature!

At 5/7/06 03:18 PM, -yam- wrote: Learn to spell please.
Yes, my alt on NGC is auothrgreens.

Yam, did you notice you tried to correct someone's spelling in the same post you spelled your own alt wrong?

That might have made my day...

Yam, did you notice you tried to correct someone's spelling in the same post you spelled your own alt wrong?

That might have made my day...

shut up :,(
this always happens to me, I corrected someones grammar once, and spelt grammar wrong :(

At 5/7/06 02:22 PM, -Mogly- wrote: Naaah, whats the point in all that work when Tom Neg and Ryan, or just Neg and Ryan, or whoever could just talk it over. Seems silly to me.

He doesn't seem to be interested in discussing it :/ I wrote a big email and all he replied with was "I'm sorry you feel that way". In other words, he has no counterargument, and he's just gonna be a stubborn arse about it.

At 5/7/06 03:57 PM, NegativeONE wrote:

At 5/7/06 02:22 PM, -Mogly- wrote: Naaah, whats the point in all that work when Tom Neg and Ryan, or just Neg and Ryan, or whoever could just talk it over. Seems silly to me.

He doesn't seem to be interested in discussing it :/ I wrote a big email and all he replied with was "I'm sorry you feel that way". In other words, he has no counterargument, and he's just gonna be a stubborn arse about it.

well neg at least he'll never get another programmer or a high scored movie ever again =)

He doesn't seem to be interested in discussing it :/ I wrote a big email and all he replied with was "I'm sorry you feel that way". In other words, he has no counterargument, and he's just gonna be a stubborn arse about it.

I know it is going to his level, but why not slighty change the game, submit it as version 2 and not co ryan, and tell people to blam of the other one.
do it/

At 5/7/06 03:57 PM, NegativeONE wrote: He doesn't seem to be interested in discussing it :/ I wrote a big email and all he replied with was "I'm sorry you feel that way". In other words, he has no counterargument, and he's just gonna be a stubborn arse about it.

He'll just ignore it until it goes away then.. Well, have you got the original fla? If so, I'd submit the Flash to loads of other portals but change it so it just says "Artwork done by some dude called Ryan" or whatever :P

At 5/7/06 04:00 PM, -yam- wrote:

He doesn't seem to be interested in discussing it :/ I wrote a big email and all he replied with was "I'm sorry you feel that way". In other words, he has no counterargument, and he's just gonna be a stubborn arse about it.

I know it is going to his level, but why not slighty change the game, submit it as version 2 and not co ryan, and tell people to blam of the other one.
do it/

haha, nah. that's just kind of cheap. I do reccomend that neg re-use the pathfinding engine though : )

I cna't remember what this thread is actually about.

Something about fish fingers?

I agree with Shawn.

At 5/7/06 04:30 PM, -Luis- wrote: I agree with Shawn.

You always agree with shawn :)

At 5/7/06 04:35 PM, -yam- wrote:

At 5/7/06 04:30 PM, -Luis- wrote: I agree with Shawn.

You always agree with shawn :)

i promise i wont next time. i dont want to be predictable.

At 5/7/06 04:35 PM, -yam- wrote:

At 5/7/06 04:30 PM, -Luis- wrote: I agree with Shawn.

You always agree with shawn :)

And I always agree with Luis. Or he'll ban me :(

At 5/7/06 04:35 PM, -yam- wrote:

At 5/7/06 04:30 PM, -Luis- wrote: I agree with Shawn.

You always agree with shawn :)

sometimes he agrees with sean too though ;)

At 5/7/06 04:36 PM, -zoy- wrote: And I always agree with Luis. Or he'll ban me :(

Really? When i agree with Luis, he changes his mind... 0_o

At 5/7/06 04:35 PM, -yam- wrote:

At 5/7/06 04:30 PM, -Luis- wrote: I agree with Shawn.

You always agree with shawn :)

I don't agree with you agreeing with me

now you can't agree with me

At 5/7/06 06:57 PM, Afro_Ninja wrote:

At 5/7/06 04:35 PM, -yam- wrote:

At 5/7/06 04:30 PM, -Luis- wrote: I agree with Shawn.

You always agree with shawn :)

I don't agree with you agreeing with me

now you can't agree with me

the paradox... it burns....

THIS STATEMENT IS FALSE

lol this thread isnt even about Neg bieng co authored anymore its just about who agrees with who

At 5/7/06 07:26 PM, Skanky_Andy wrote: lol this thread isnt even about Neg bieng co authored anymore its just about who agrees with who

I agree

At 5/7/06 07:38 PM, FrostedMuffins wrote:

At 5/7/06 07:26 PM, Skanky_Andy wrote: lol this thread isnt even about Neg bieng co authored anymore its just about who agrees with who

I agree

lol i saw that one coming XP

At 5/7/06 07:38 PM, FrostedMuffins wrote:

At 5/7/06 07:26 PM, Skanky_Andy wrote: lol this thread isnt even about Neg bieng co authored anymore its just about who agrees with who

I agree

orly?

nah lets not do that :P

JF2 is an amazing game, the animation, style, game, programming is all swell. However the author of it is a fag, well you know what? Its negs fault for not getting his deal straight before he went on with it. Its like if a kid goes into a stip bar, sees a hot chick, bangs her, and gets AIDS, its not the chicks fault for fucking him up. Its the kids fault for not making sure that his pootytang is clean.

Now if you want something done at all, do what happens with Piconjo / Star syndicate, and make funny flash about it. I suggest a more indepth version of Johny butterfingers, using the engine NegativeOne made for JRF. Make it funny and make it good, and make it tell the tale of Ryan and his idiocy. Sitting here bitching is for NG noobs (just look at all the NG BBS faggots in this thread). Get stuff done.

At 5/7/06 07:58 PM, Mp3_Lock wrote: JF2 is an amazing game, the animation, style, game, programming is all swell. However the author of it is a fag, well you know what? Its negs fault for not getting his deal straight before he went on with it. Its like if a kid goes into a stip bar, sees a hot chick, bangs her, and gets AIDS, its not the chicks fault for fucking him up. Its the kids fault for not making sure that his pootytang is clean.

Ryan and I did have an agreement, Admiral Presumptuous. What the hell are you suggesting, that I get a signed agreement guaranteeing co-authorship? We talked it over, I even met with him. There was nothing within reason that I could have done to prevent this.

At 5/7/06 07:26 PM, Skanky_Andy wrote: lol this thread isnt even about Neg bieng co authored anymore its just about who agrees with who

i agree. lets stop doing that.

We have reached a plateau. What are we going to do about this now?
Is there anything we can do?