At 2/15/06 02:34 PM, JackPhantasm wrote: Because instant messengers don't exist, and aren't where the main pieces of these conversations take place.

Well a thread reach out to so many people, think about it, a thread usually gets ten views per reply, and the thread that told how to block ads got into a couple of pages.

I am actually surprised that this kind of "help" wasn't prohibited long ago.

Pop-ups are annoying, banners are not. (Exceptions given to those smiley ads). I'll be sure to enforce this if or when I see it.

I thought this was a common sense thing, but evidently not.

That would be like me teaching people how to protect their flash movies on the ebaumsworld forums

At 2/15/06 04:17 PM, Psycho_Goldfish wrote: That would be like me teaching people how to protect their flash movies on the ebaumsworld forums

I highly doubt anything resembling teaching in any way, shape, or form is extinct on those message boards.

At 2/15/06 02:32 PM, WadeFulp wrote:

Look at television, you have to sit through 3-5 minutes of ads every 10-15 minutes of a show. On Newgrounds there is just an ad embedded into the page. Is it really that big of a deal that people need to find ways to block it?

Is it really that big of a deal that you need to ban people for it? One way or another you'd get plenty of people clicking the ads.

Users who see someone talking about blocking ads on Newgrounds should publically condone the person suggesting it and they should be reported to the mods or myself.

Lol. You do get that most people don't visit the forums anyway, and most of your unique hits aren't going to visit the forums, and a lot of people click the ads anyway. I block many ads and I still click ones that I like.

Banning someone for telling someone how to do it when asked is kind of a bad idea if you ask me. I mean, at most we have 328 users online at a time, and the majority of them are not looking into that thread anyway. I mean, you guys work with marketers who plant cookies on us and who do all that stuff, but talking about how to stop that is wrong also then?

I block thhe pop-ups on NG. As for the banners, I do know a bit about how all the banner stuff works. I click on almost all the banners, except for that smiley thing. I do wondr how much NG makes annually. Pleas tell me Wade. I need to know.

Most of the banners on NG point right back to NG... how the fuck does that make money?

At 2/15/06 04:15 PM, Evark wrote: I thought this was a common sense thing, but evidently not.

Hardly, we used to help people on how to bloc adds etc in the wi/ht all the time.

I'll assume your talking about RupeeClock right?

If you are talking about RupeeClock:

I strongly disagree with a 30 day ban.
I realize your setting an example for everyone, but he was helping make NG more convienent for everyone and in no way was doing this for personal gain. Hes an outstanding member and has contributed to this site in numerous ways, and I'm disgusted from the final result.

At 2/15/06 03:06 PM, WadeFulp wrote:

At 2/15/06 02:53 PM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: Apparently you didn't see his reply, and apparently, he isn't the only idiot.

Apparently his reply wasn't there before I started replying. Who's the idiot now?

Keep another tab open. TABBED BROWSING.

At 2/15/06 04:23 PM, -Buddhist- wrote: I mean, you guys work with marketers who plant cookies on us and who do all that stuff, but talking about how to stop that is wrong also then?

Yes. Advertising is what keeps Newgrounds from going bankrupt from all the server costs. It's what keeps things improving, and everything else good that you see here. If nobody is viewing the advertisements because everyone knows how and has started to block them, then Newgrounds isn't making any money.

It's especially important they not be put on the forums because the forums are an area of the site where the drain on resources outweighs the traffic. When someone browses the forums they visit page after page after page and every time they're eating up some server load. If they're not doing their part during their browsing time by seeing advertisements, then they're being a burden.

Obviously nobody can stop discussion on other areas that aren't on the site, but that doesn't make it ok for it to be discussed here, where it's saved permanently for anyone to see (just a BBS search away).

At 2/15/06 04:27 PM, Tom_s00 wrote: Hardly, we used to help people on how to bloc adds etc in the wi/ht all the time.

I know, I read Wi/Ht? at least a couple times a week. I've only ever seen people help others block pop-up advertisements though. I could just be missing things, but I'm not so sure.

I don't think Wade is upset about getting pop-up advertisements blocked so much as the in page banners. Pop ups are a small source of revenue.

i don't block banners but i hate those sound banners!

At 2/15/06 04:32 PM, Evark wrote:

At 2/15/06 04:27 PM, Tom_s00 wrote: Hardly, we used to help people on how to bloc adds etc in the wi/ht all the time.

I know, I read Wi/Ht? at least a couple times a week. I've only ever seen people help others block pop-up advertisements though. I could just be missing things, but I'm not so sure.

I don't think Wade is upset about getting pop-up advertisements blocked so much as the in page banners. Pop ups are a small source of revenue.

Well then if it was such a monumental issue, don't you think they would stop using the banner space to promote small-time things such as Icon making and the PSP section?

I mean it's all well and good, but obviously they make enough money to whore the site itself on the site, which I don't have a problem with.

Whatever. I will proceed to block as I wish, though I keep most unblocked anyway.

At 2/15/06 04:23 PM, -Buddhist- wrote: Banning someone for telling someone how to do it when asked is kind of a bad idea if you ask me. I mean, at most we have 328 users online at a time, and the majority of them are not looking into that thread anyway. I mean, you guys work with marketers who plant cookies on us and who do all that stuff, but talking about how to stop that is wrong also then?

So your justification for doing this is that only a few people will see it? Tell me, how much harm does seeing a banner at the top of the page do to you? Its not like these are pop-ups, they are at the top of the page, and a large percentage of the time you dont even see them because you have scrolled down. These ads paying for NG hosting, which is thousands of dollars. Would you like to have to pay to use NG, I wouldnt like to.

If I ask you for a key code for Flash, shoudl you be banned for giving it to me (assuming I wasnt a mod)? Only a few people will see that.

At 2/15/06 02:50 PM, Pink_Beer wrote: SOLUTION: make newgrounds non-compatible with Firefox.

Don't ask me how.

adblock is kick ass. but i have no idea what im missing with these ads.

My firewall blocks the ads on my computer anyways, so I don't cheat like that guy. But I know how it supports your site, even though we don't like it.

i agree that he should be banned because if everybody blocked the banners ng would go bankrupt the thing is people dont know how much ng costs i dont really know but im guessing a couple thousand dollers.... plus the banners dont do anything they arent forcing you to click them i cant believe people think the smiley one is the worst
maybe if you didnt scroll your mouse over it .... the worst one is that clown one that even if you dont get near it .. it keeps laughing a really annoying laugh and you have to click back and click forward again hoping you wont get that one again
luckilly i havnt seen that one on ng very often probably like 1 or 2 times ever
but when i go on other sites i see it so many dang times its really annoying

Some of the flash ads steal my cursor. It NG was just image banners, or text, I'd have no problem.

Is it a bad thing that my I.P blocks banner ads?.......

At 2/15/06 05:17 PM, PsychoNick wrote: Is it a bad thing that my I.P blocks banner ads?.......

No. You just can't tell people how to do it.

Advertising isn't marketing fellers, it's the law.

At 2/15/06 02:42 PM, WadeFulp wrote:

It should be obvious to you that I can't control what people say outside of our forums.

You can't?

Way to outright ban someone who thought he was helping people Wade.
Ever think that he might not of realised he was hurting newgrounds?
(I'm assuming this is RupeeClock you're on about.)

At 2/15/06 02:32 PM, WadeFulp wrote: The user who recently posted some ways to block our top banner ad has been banned for 30 days. Next time his account will be terminated if he feels the need to explain how to block ads.

Oh Wade, I'm sure Rupee Clock didn't mean any harm when he posted that thread explaining how to block the top banner ad. He only posted it in the first place because the new header was too big for him (and maybe some other users) and the elimination of the ad would save space on each page. Do you think he posted that thread because he hates NG and seriously wanted it to lose ad revenue? No--it was just a simple mistake on his part. Plus, given that he has over 5,600 exp points, over 15,000 B/P's, and has contributed a lot of good Flash, threatening to terminate his account for this would be seriously overreacting.

Some of you are fucking dense.

What do you mean he didn't know what he was doing? Does it need to be explained? NG doesn't run ads to make their pages pretty, they run them for money. Let's try some simple substitution

Newgrounds needs money
Ads = money
Therefore, Newgrounds needs Ads

no ads = LOL NO NEWGROUNDS

If he wanted to block them himself because it was messing up his page or whatever, then sure. But to post a topic explaining it?

Go around town and start painting over your billboards so they don't distract people. The city wont mind, right?

If you block NG ads, you're hurting NG.

Don't hurt NG.

At 2/15/06 05:53 PM, Afro_Ninja wrote: Some of you are fucking dense.

What do you mean he didn't know what he was doing? Does it need to be explained? NG doesn't run ads to make their pages pretty, they run them for money. Let's try some simple substitution

Newgrounds needs money
Ads = money
Therefore, Newgrounds needs Ads

no ads = LOL NO NEWGROUNDS

If he wanted to block them himself because it was messing up his page or whatever, then sure. But to post a topic explaining it?

Go around town and start painting over your billboards so they don't distract people. The city wont mind, right?

LOL OH RIGHT YEAH BECAUSE EVERYONE THESE DAYS DON'T HELP SOMEONE ELSE OUT UNLESS THEY DESTROY SOMETHING IN THE PROCESS.

if you have the firefox plugin, then you can choose wether the ad still registers asif its been visible or not.

Correct me if im wrong, but I think if the ads are all done in flash, they wouldn't be able to be blocked?