DEFCON Update:

As the DEFCON was left at DEFCON 3 overnight, there is no reason to update this morning. I will keep evaluating the Portal and determine any changes necessary.

At 1/6/06 06:46 AM, mattsims wrote: Congratulations on your promotion Sir!

At 1/6/06 07:52 AM, Coop83 wrote: Congratulations SIR! *Salutes vehemently*

At 1/6/06 08:12 AM, psykolord wrote: Also, congratulations on your promotion to Warrant Officer, EagleRock SIR! *salutes*

At 1/6/06 09:08 AM, Rslegend wrote: This may be a bit later, but congratulations on making praporschick eagle rock.

Thanks for your congratulations, all!

*salutes*

Might I also add that I have finally clawed my way into the prestigious ranks of the top 300! I'm currently ranked #297 on all of Newgrounds, which was a goal I set for myself a while ago. Hooah!

At 1/5/06 10:58 PM, EagleRock wrote:

My inference was not that some soldiers are better protectors than other. I am a Mathematician and I believe my idea is being lost on you.

Ooh, math! I love math!

Consider 30 people are massing. With that much voting persuasion, it could be quite easy for a barney bunch flash to pass judgment with a score of 1.8 or more, but consider it reaches 190 votes with a score of 1.8. If 10 regular soldiers with small voting powers (5 or 6) attempt to blam it, they will fail, however if those 10 slots are saved for 10 people with voting powers of 8 or more, the flash is blammed, and rightly so.

I only have one problem with this scenario, sir. Doesn't the person with 8 votes count towards 8 of the 200 votes that makes the flash finish being UJ? Or does the 200 votes strictly mean that 200 different users have to vote, and their respective voting powers affect accordingly?

Thoughts anyone?

At 1/6/06 11:04 AM, Bahamut7 wrote: Like yesterday, three new pages to go through. I've skipped most of the posts. It's a damn school day and I wouldn't have been too bothered with the increase of activity in this thread if it was on a weekend.

Sorry to hear, sir. At any rate, it's good to have you here!

I think I should take a position since I have contributed a lot to the EGB.

That sound good, sir. If you see a position that you see yourself fit for, I would respectfully ask you to start acting as if you were in that position and demonstrate your worthiness for it. In this way, everyone can see you are right for the job. The only reason I see this necessary is that everyone so far had to prove themselves that they were good for the position before I awarded them with it, so it would indeed be unfair to everyone else. I did recently hold off two petitions so they could prove themselves as well. Surely you understand and do not see a problem with serving the Portal in that way. After all, sir, I'm sure a qualified Major General like yourself shouldn't have a hard time showing your worthiness for a position! Also, if I do see a position that you would be good for, I will of course notify you at once, sir.

BTW, congrats on reaching Parporshchik! *salutes*

Thanks, sir! Soon enough I'll be a Commanding Officer just like you!

*salutes*

Well, I must be off for a little while, but I will be back soon enough. Hooah!

At 1/6/06 11:57 AM, EagleRock wrote: I only have one problem with this scenario, sir. Doesn't the person with 8 votes count towards 8 of the 200 votes that makes the flash finish being UJ? Or does the 200 votes strictly mean that 200 different users have to vote, and their respective voting powers affect accordingly?

I myself was wondering about this question... I'm not sure but there was a case a flash had quite below 200 views and I got the "save" flash which suggests that some one with a voting power of 8 will count as 8 votes of a newly joined user ( 1.00 ). but I'm still not sure...

At 1/6/06 08:17 AM, Sekky wrote:

Consider 30 people are massing. With that much voting persuasion, it could be quite easy for a barney bunch flash to pass judgment with a score of 1.8 or more, but consider it reaches 190 votes with a score of 1.8. If 10 regular soldiers with small voting powers (5 or 6) attempt to blam it, they will fail, however if those 10 slots are saved for 10 people with voting powers of 8 or more, the flash is blammed, and rightly so.

This sounds like a good idea, and I agree having a unit of 10 or so with a high voting power will really impact the score of an under-judgement submission, enough to make the difference between a blam and a save.

But I have three problems at this point. And only three.

Personally I always keep a second window open with the flash portal and I will vote on it usually as soon as it is uploaded. I could get into the habit of waiting a few minutes to check this topic and I dont mind that., but for this to work it must be very efficent.

This is very similiar to what the Blam Club used to do, when they found a flash that was a very poor quality they would simply post a link and all of the members active at the time would vote on it. But from reading random pages of the topic, even that wasnt 100% efficent and the linked post would be too late. And they had alot more members than we have.

We already have a DEF-CON system in place, and to be honest I dont even use that because I watch the flash and vote on it as soon as its uploaded.

Now dont get me wrong, I like this idea but those three things are the only problems I have. If you could answer to these or even just one of them. I could, and everyone else in the Barracks can make a more educated choice.

At 1/6/06 11:57 AM, EagleRock wrote:

EalgeRock congrats on Praporschik and top 300 b/p!~Enjoy TITROTU's list~.
If you havent already you might want to drop by and say hello. Just to confirm your on next Tuesdays update. : )

At 1/5/06 10:58 PM, EagleRock wrote:

My inference was not that some soldiers are better protectors than other. I am a Mathematician and I believe my idea is being lost on you.

Ooh, math! I love math!

I dont im a fucking nub at it. But still for some reason im the records officer : P
Oh the irony.

is that the right time to say irony? I think so.

At 1/6/06 11:04 AM, Bahamut7 wrote:

Well I dont like the idea of you looking for a position, because if someone has to go looking, I think thats a sign we dont need anymore. = /
But I would like to see the Barracks more involved with the Newgrounds Department of Defence, and since your an active member there maybe thats the route to take.
Im still not too sure how this would benefit either club but still. maybe if there is a change in the barracks this could always be kinda like a support beam.

Sorry for the double post!
But I just missed this part.

At 1/6/06 11:57 AM, EagleRock wrote: I only have one problem with this scenario, sir. Doesn't the person with 8 votes count towards 8 of the 200 votes that makes the flash finish being UJ?

No. : (

Or does the 200 votes strictly mean that 200 different users have to vote, and their respective voting powers affect accordingly?

Yes. : )

First of all, though it is VERY late, I'd like to congratulate EagleRock for attaining the rank of Praporshchik! Well done, sir!

Next, I'd like to give 'props' to Dream_of_Duke, for showing the utmost honour and respect towards Major_Punk , despite his aguement against his promotion.

Finally, I am sorry for my recent AWOL, however between shovelling 10-20cm of snow, and other family matters, I was unable to come to the portal until this time. If i can attain 50 B/P points today, then 100 on both Saturday and Sunday, I will have attained the rank of Corporal by holiday's end! :)

Back to the portal!

*Salutes*

At 1/6/06 09:08 AM, Rslegend wrote: This may be a bit later, but congratulations on making praporschick eagle rock.

Same. *salute*

At 1/6/06 11:22 AM, Coop83 wrote: Well, there's another positive message about how fast this thread is moving. Every day, we seem to gather more momentum

That's the good part, but the bad part is that some people like me will have to catch up on a lot of posts.

At 1/6/06 11:57 AM, EagleRock wrote: Sorry to hear, sir. At any rate, it's good to have you here!

Don't worry. I'll try and keep active as long as there are things I can post about in here. And as long as I don't get bored with the BBS, which I don't expect to get bored with this place anytime soon.

Also, if I do see a position that you would be good for, I will of course notify you at once, sir.

That's great! Thank you, Eagle! If there is something for me, I will have a go, but I will need to be quite responsible with it and don't get too careless.

At 1/6/06 12:52 PM, Major_punk wrote: But I would like to see the Barracks more involved with the Newgrounds Department of Defence, and since your an active member there maybe thats the route to take.

Yes, I am active in the NGDD, but nothing much is happening there recently. :| If there's anything you want to know about the NGDD, you could post and ask Wylo for any questions you have.

At 1/6/06 12:52 PM, Major_punk wrote: This sounds like a good idea, and I agree having a unit of 10 or so with a high voting power will really impact the score of an under-judgement submission, enough to make the difference between a blam and a save.

But I have three problems at this point. And only three.

I read your points, sir, and I do have to agree. Also, thanks to several members, my thoughts on the Portal were clarified, and I do realize that low-voting-power member do "dilute" the just votes and allow voteskewers to push their flash along.

Even still, though, I am mildly apprehensive to the idea as I consider protecting the Portal all of our jobs. By forcing the lessers to not vote to the higher-ups can do is is not what I indended this club for. While it is a good point, I am uncomfortable with the idea of forcing certain members to not vote. In this way, we are also restricting who can get B/P and advance in rank. As good as the idea is in theory, I think it is something we should hold off on until further investigation is done in the idea.

We already have a DEF-CON system in place, and to be honest I dont even use that because I watch the flash and vote on it as soon as its uploaded.

Well, naturally, the DEFCON is more of a cosmetic part of the Barracks. However, I think it is a nice addition and is a good way to alert Barracks members if there is a potential attack in our midst. Sometimes these attacks might be anticaptated and are not plainly visible on the Portal, hence the DEFCON.

EalgeRock congrats on Praporschik and top 300 b/p!~Enjoy TITROTU's list~.
If you havent already you might want to drop by and say hello. Just to confirm your on next Tuesdays update. : )

I appreciate your looking out for me, sir, but I already did! I do realize making such a list is hard, especially with unannounced new members. I figured it could at least help Major General TITROTU.

Well I dont like the idea of you looking for a position, because if someone has to go looking, I think thats a sign we dont need anymore. = /

I understand, sir. I again realize that my moves were a bit rash, but I was merely attempting to give credit where credit's due. I wanted Major General Bahamut7 to know that his efforts here in the Barracks are recognized and appreciated. We will see in the future how it develops though, sir.

But I would like to see the Barracks more involved with the Newgrounds Department of Defence, and since your an active member there maybe thats the route to take.
Im still not too sure how this would benefit either club but still. maybe if there is a change in the barracks this could always be kinda like a support beam.

Perhaps such an idea warrants more investigation. Indeed we have already made ties with the NGPD HQ and the honorable NG Mafia. Perhaps another alliance is in line? I would like more investigation in this matter if possible.

At 1/6/06 01:31 PM, -Mitsubishi- wrote: First of all, though it is VERY late, I'd like to congratulate EagleRock for attaining the rank of Praporshchik! Well done, sir!

Thank you, PFC! I always appreciate such comments.

*salutes*

Next, I'd like to give 'props' to Dream_of_Duke, for showing the utmost honour and respect towards Major_Punk , despite his aguement against his promotion.

I certainly am glad at how things are turning out, despite my blundered actions as of late.

Finally, I am sorry for my recent AWOL, however between shovelling 10-20cm of snow, and other family matters, I was unable to come to the portal until this time. If i can attain 50 B/P points today, then 100 on both Saturday and Sunday, I will have attained the rank of Corporal by holiday's end! :)

Your AWOL is definately excused, as we all have our other matters to attend to. Good luck in your upcoming promotion, PFC!

At 1/6/06 01:34 PM, Domnikathor wrote:

At 1/6/06 09:08 AM, Rslegend wrote: This may be a bit later, but congratulations on making praporschick eagle rock.

Same. *salute*

Thanks to you as well, PFC!

*salutes*

At 1/6/06 01:38 PM, Bahamut7 wrote: That's great! Thank you, Eagle! If there is something for me, I will have a go, but I will need to be quite responsible with it and don't get too careless.

Well, like I said, sir, I think the best way to go about it is for you to contribute in the way that you feel best-suited for. Your actions will determine the position that is best-suited for you, sir.

I must be off now, as I am current communicating to you through a public terminal with possibly the worst keyboard I've ever used. I will return soon!

*salutes*

At 1/6/06 02:35 PM, Sekky wrote: My "lower users don't vote" example was just to demonstrate what could potentially happen. What we should be thinking about is, yes all the club votes, but also "Call in the Artillery" to ensure for instance that "All artillery operators are on duty during prime time on clock day". Or noticing certain trends when barney bunch flashes are submitted so that the artillery operators can be there to catch them as well.

Indeed, that is the point of the DEFCON system. The purpose of such as sytem is so that we as Elite Guards know how critical Portal defense is. Please not that it is indeed a proactive system, not a reactive one. The Portal has been rather standard lately, which does not call for much action. Allow me to restate the DEFCON system and how it applies to Barracks members:

DEFCON 5 - Peacetime

The Portal is very stagnant and has almost no Under Judgement flash, if any. Protection is extremely easy to do and requires minimal time to do so (A couple of minutes per hour). Such a situation is very rare, and so far has only come around during early morning Portal hours.

DEFCON 4 - Peacetime with Increased Intel Ops and Security

The Portal is slow yet still active. Churn rate of flash is slow, but steady. Most commonly DEFCON 4 represents early-morning Portal from 0100 hours to around 0500 hours. However, the threat of malicious flash is always apparent, which does not require the cease of awareness of Portal activity.

DEFCON 3 - Increased Elite Guard Readiness

The Portal is at its usual level of activity, which is most accurately represented by daytime levels and standard peak hours. The Churn rate is steady and persistant, which requires active Portal protection from Elite Guard members. DEFCON 3 also represents late-night Portal activity that is unusually high or has expected threats.

DEFCON 2 - Further Increased Elite Guard Readiness

The Portal is at a high level of activity. An unusually high amount of flash arey Under Judgement resulting in a steady 20-25 minimum. The Portal has occasional but regular attacks which requires a high level of awareness. This is also indicative of a serious threat looming on the Portal, such as a mass-attack by malicious users or other potential threats. Most commonly DEFCON 2 represents a busy weekend, a holiday, or a lesser "Day" event.

DEFCON 1 - Maximum Elite Guard Readiness

The Portal is at an extreme which requires as many Elite Guards as possible to patrol and protect it. Such extremes could be an exorbinantly high number of flash regularly Under Judgement, a serious threat by a group, or a major "Day" event such as Clock Day. Such a situation should not be taken lightly and extra efforts shoudl be taken by all to keep the Portal safe.

As you can see, the DEFCON does address such potential attacks. Lately, the DEFCON has become less necessary, as it has simply been regularly shifted back and forth between DEFCON 2 and DEFCON 3. However, this is still helpful, as it represents that the Portal is at its usual levels. If we need to call forth Elite Guards with high voting-power, indeed that will be reflected by DEFCON 2 or DEFCON 1 (Even DEFCON 3 during the slow Portal hours). However, in extreme cases, all Elite Guards would be necessary, as mass voting would be rampant. Indeed, any user with any amount of votes would be valuable, as waiting for someone with higher voting power could cost the Elite Guard that slot, as mass-voters would be voting quickly.

Even though it isn't apparent now, I believe the DEFCON is a great system for helping these situations. Since the Portal has been very regular lately, it appears as though it is useless, but will indeed shines when it is needed the most.

At 1/6/06 02:35 PM, Sekky wrote: My "lower users don't vote" example was just to demonstrate what could potentially happen. What we should be thinking about is, yes all the club votes, but also "Call in the Artillery" to ensure for instance that "All artillery operators are on duty during prime time on clock day". Or noticing certain trends when barney bunch flashes are submitted so that the artillery operators can be there to catch them as well.

I purpose a list. A list of users that should vote in such huge emergencies... Oddly enough I'm in the middle with a voting power of 7.31... But I don't think there too many of these cases...

Small idea that would be quite simple to implement: a list of all flashes later switched to BB stuff. I can think of two off the top of my head: "swanky hotel" and that "bathroom bitches" one. This would help everyone know what to look out for, as no one person likely knows every flash that has been used as a fileswap.
:back to the portal: :salutes:

Ok I know I am not a elite guard and all but could I join I am a newb so give me time please!

At 1/6/06 03:27 PM, choppers1 wrote: Ok I know I am not a elite guard and all but could I join I am a newb so give me time please!

I am not an elite guard either, but I often post here. First I suggest you go to the ng police headquarters, and work on getting up to elite guard from there. The ngpd is very friendly, we will try to help you get your b/p level up as much we can

*Nods and smiles*Thanks man well I shall leave you all be for now!

Well that was nice...

I didn't even have to do anything!

No problem.

I guess some other time I am only lvl 2 and the lowest rank so I may not join them lol. Man I hate being a newb lol. Well thanks for the help and I hope you all have fun!

Yeah you don't get alot of respect when you are low lvled. Just deposti you xp every day and you'll get there.

At 1/6/06 03:38 PM, choppers1 wrote: I guess some other time I am only lvl 2 and the lowest rank so I may not join them lol. Man I hate being a newb lol. Well thanks for the help and I hope you all have fun!

No offense, but civilians such as yourself i believe are not allowed in the Elite Guard Barracks. Get some training and you'l be well on your way as a police officer, then work your way on up here. Good luck to you.

Thanks. Hey is there anywhere I can rp fight?

At 1/6/06 03:41 PM, KungFuCow wrote:

At 1/6/06 03:38 PM, choppers1 wrote: I guess some other time I am only lvl 2 and the lowest rank so I may not join them lol. Man I hate being a newb lol. Well thanks for the help and I hope you all have fun!

No offense, but civilians such as yourself i believe are not allowed in the Elite Guard Barracks. Get some training and you'l be well on your way as a police officer, then work your way on up here. Good luck to you.

On the contrary. Anyone with a vested interest in protecting the Portal is allowed here. However, I will not allow spamlike posts in the Barracks, as it gives us a bad name and detracts from the atmosphere.

Also, I didn't here a SIR from you, Citizen! Lastly, checking your record, I see only 2 blams and 1 save on record. I suggest you get out to the Portal and do some blamming and protecting before you post here.

Like I said, anyone is welcome here with vested interests in the Portal, but I will not tolerate spammers. Please come back when you have charged yourself with the protection of the Portal and can talk to us with the respect we deserve and in a tone that we approve of. Thank you.

no, you can't do that anywhere

I've noticed there has been a decent number of crappy entries (lol oxymoron) in the portal recently. *Re-loads dual magnums*

ya, i haven't seen alot of "good" flashes today maybe 6 or 7
well, let's go blamming *borrows the NGPD blam tank*

Hey, when flagging an entry for being submitted twice with no changes you click on 'malicious', correct?

If so, I just got a whistle point along with a double-kill.

At 1/6/06 04:04 PM, KungFuCow wrote: Hey, when flagging an entry for being submitted twice with no changes you click on 'malicious', correct?

Yes, you click on malicious for flashes that were submitted twice and didn't have a single change or a good effort of change in it.

At 1/6/06 04:04 PM, KungFuCow wrote: Hey, when flagging an entry for being submitted twice with no changes you click on 'malicious', correct?

yes, that's correct

At 1/6/06 04:04 PM, KungFuCow wrote: If so, I just got a whistle point along with a double-kill.

congatulations, sir

How come so many flashes have something like this as a comment "Hey sup dis is my first movie im gona make it into a series vote high its my first" It seems like half the people submitting want to make something into a series.
(This is sort of a rhetorial question, no one has to answer)

At 1/6/06 03:33 PM, EagleRock wrote:

Well that was nice...

I didn't even have to do anything!

ya that was rather convienant of RSlegend...

At 1/6/06 03:51 PM, the_fallen_one1 wrote:

ya, i haven't seen alot of "good" flashes today maybe 6 or 7
well, let's go blamming *borrows the NGPD blam tank*

damn... NGPD and there inside jokes... : P

At 1/6/06 03:02 PM, Ghost_Phantom wrote:

At 1/6/06 02:35 PM, Sekky wrote: My "lower users don't vote" example was just to demonstrate what could potentially happen. What we should be thinking about is, yes all the club votes, but also "Call in the Artillery" to ensure for instance that "All artillery operators are on duty during prime time on clock day". Or noticing certain trends when barney bunch flashes are submitted so that the artillery operators can be there to catch them as well.

I purpose a list. A list of users that should vote in such huge emergencies... Oddly enough I'm in the middle with a voting power of 7.31... But I don't think there too many of these cases...

I like Sekky's idea, but it cant be overused. Or itll become worthless, I mean it would be very useful and very effective if someone were to "call in the artillery" and all of the artillery members would drop what they were doing, to get the job done.

Anyway because of such focus on Voting power in the last few pages, I just quickly put together a list ranked #1-30 of the elite guards voting power.

Im also trying a new kind of format... kinda

|Rank| Name |Voting Power|

01.) nimmer............. .12.97
02.) XwaynecoltX....... .11.89
03.) iscRulz........... .10.47
04.) Bahamut7.......... .08.78
05.) Andersson......... .08.67
06.) TITROTU.............. .08.41
07.) Sekky ............ .. .08.16
08.) Coop83............ .08.10
09.) NewgroundsSPG.. .08.10
10.) boloneyman........ .07.98
11.) -Rule-.......... .07.83
12.) Dream_of_Duke.. .07.83
13.) -Shadow_XII-... .07.77
14.) Snowy_Beast.... .07.66
15.) Frostbreath.... .07.64
16.) Domnikathor.... . 07.59
17.) Ghost_Phantom.. .07.30
18.) psykolord...... .07.12
19.) Afro_harryjarry .07.01
20.) Major_punk..... .06.89
21.) JoKeR_ADT...... .06.78
22.) Stayin_tru..... .06.75
23.) EagleRock...... .06.74
24.) mattsims....... .06.58
25.) KungFuCow...... .06.46
26.) SlashFirestorm. .06.43
27.) -Platinum-.... .06.41
28.) Grizzley....... .06.18
29.) -Mitsubishi-... .06.15
30.) the_fallen_one1 .05.92

Total population 252.57
Average: 7.75
Users above average 13
Users below average: 17
Top 10 average: 9.35

Hopefully this is helpful to whatever decision is reached. = )

At 1/6/06 03:27 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: Small idea that would be quite simple to implement: a list of all flashes later switched to BB stuff. I can think of two off the top of my head: "swanky hotel" and that "bathroom bitches" one. This would help everyone know what to look out for, as no one person likely knows every flash that has been used as a fileswap.

back to the portal: :salutes:

As a matter of fact, that is one feature I was planning to add to the website I'm building(should I become officer) that would help to protect the portal against such activity. It really isn't a daunting task, however I would require the help of all my fellow EG members.

*Salutes*