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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-18 20:46:12


I noticed an "Advanced BBS Search" is still under contemplation, according to the first post in the topic. I'm just curios if it's already been rejected/accepted and maybe some details. I was going to make a suggestion regarding little search change, but I don't want to rehash old ideas.


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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-18 20:58:14


At 9/18/05 08:09 PM, XwaynecoltX wrote: Not sure if this has been posted but what about a profile stat of the % of where we posted

General 33%
Wi/HT 22%
Politics 45%

I already keep track of that myself.. 86.6% of my posts have been in the general forum.

Anyway.. I still like that idea.

Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-18 20:58:53


I'm sorry liljim.


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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-18 22:34:52


At 9/18/05 07:15 PM, Big_SciZot wrote: Oh yeah also what if NG had a currency like the revird did. They could be used for buying sigs and stuff maybe. What would really be cool would be is if there was a shop and a lottery that we could spend our money type thing on. The Revird was gonna have this also.

Some fun trivia... NG actually does have a currency system that has never been utilized. Ever since the days that Ross was managing the database, users have been acruing gold coin points. Flash authors receive daily gold coin rewards based on the scores of their existing submissions. It's something we started tracking but never made any options to "buy" anything with the points. We still always plan to, we just haven't gotten around to it yet. :)


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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-18 22:50:40


At 9/18/05 10:34 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 9/18/05 07:15 PM, Big_SciZot wrote: Oh yeah also what if NG had a currency like the revird did. They could be used for buying sigs and stuff maybe. What would really be cool would be is if there was a shop and a lottery that we could spend our money type thing on. The Revird was gonna have this also.
Some fun trivia... NG actually does have a currency system that has never been utilized. Ever since the days that Ross was managing the database, users have been acruing gold coin points. Flash authors receive daily gold coin rewards based on the scores of their existing submissions. It's something we started tracking but never made any options to "buy" anything with the points. We still always plan to, we just haven't gotten around to it yet. :)

Wow - so your saying I could "buy" things with my "currency" eventually? Wow - if somebody made some sort of NG trivia game, this could be added in.

I'd highly suggest implimenting this system Tom - if you can get it up and running, I'm sure you'd make NG all the more fun for the rest of us :D

Also, if you impliment that system, would b/p points and EXP points count towards anything?

I can't believe I'm quoting TomFulp outside the News section...

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-18 23:13:01


At 9/18/05 10:34 PM, TomFulp wrote: Some fun trivia... NG actually does have a currency system that has never been utilized.

I think it's a good thing that it has never been utilized. I mean, it can be really abused. Such as, if the stat was based on posts then there would be many more people spamming in order to get money. This of course is only an example. No matter what it is based off of could lead to people abusing the system to get more money.

Ever since the days that Ross was managing the database, users have been acruing gold coin points.

What's really good about keeping it secret until now is that it is completly unknown to the majority of users. It would have been more wise to let it sit, that way you could suddenly spring it on us, and we wouldn't have a clue how to get more, but we'd already have some points. Which would decrease the chances of abuse.

Flash authors receive daily gold coin rewards based on the scores of their existing submissions.

Now I really am taking a stand against this. That's a completly bogus way of rewarding users. So you're telling me that someone who has put tons of work into his Newgrounds time, such as gfoxcook, will recieve no compensation, yet people such as the members of the Star Syndicate have been getting rewarded for flooding the portal with horrible flash? Let me put it into perspective. Just as an example let's say you get however many coins as the score of your flash. So if your flash had a score of 4 you'd get 4 points a day. So, whenever the Star Syndicate co-authors each other with spammy flash on alternate accounts all of those account are earning about 1.6 coins a day for their crap? While there are users making constructive reviews, voting on flash both under judgement and not underjudgement, and being just helpful to the NG community overall who recieve nothing for what they have done. Yet someone who hasn't been to this site since 2000 and submitted an entry that got a score of 2.6 has been racking up points day by day for that? And also, what about users who submit audio? Please prove me wrong by saying that there are other ways users are given coins, otherwise the system seems completly useless to me.

It's something we started tracking but never made any options to "buy" anything with the points. We still always plan to, we just haven't gotten around to it yet. :)

Well, unless there are some changes when you implement it, I am not excited at all from what I have heard about this.

I guess I'll also take this chance to suggest a character count, rather than a post count. Mainly because, it's inaccurate to say that this post is the same worth as a post that said "I don't think that's a good idea." Just something I had been meaning to suggest, tacked along the end of this post.


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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-18 23:25:41


At 9/18/05 11:13 PM, Xiivi wrote:
At 9/18/05 10:34 PM, TomFulp wrote: Ever since the days that Ross was managing the database, users have been acruing gold coin points.
What's really good about keeping it secret until now is that it is completly unknown to the majority of users. It would have been more wise to let it sit, that way you could suddenly spring it on us, and we wouldn't have a clue how to get more, but we'd already have some points. Which would decrease the chances of abuse.

Well, let's face it - other than the admins, and a few of us who care about NG (who want to help it by giving suggestions, and commenting on others), who'll know? It's not like someone will come to the General forum, and post "OMG!!@1 THERES NG CURRENCY!" - and then post a link to this. I'm sure the Wi/Ht? people aren't that dumb...

I guess I'll also take this chance to suggest a character count, rather than a post count. Mainly because, it's inaccurate to say that this post is the same worth as a post that said "I don't think that's a good idea." Just something I had been meaning to suggest, tacked along the end of this post.

That sounds good on paper, but when it'll come into reality, it'll be horrible.

Imagine if a user posted a really big spam topic, and the mod only locked the page and banned the user - but the mod didn't delete it.

They'd be getting tons and tons of characters for nothing.

Also, one must remember about quots - would they count as characters as well?

I personally think we should be able to instead comment whether a "Post" - instead of a "Review" was helpful or not - and if they wanted, they could mark posts as abusive, so mods would know where to look

(however, the major flaw with this would be "Abusive Abuse"... imagine the consequences)


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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-18 23:45:39


At 9/18/05 11:25 PM, Nomader wrote: Well, let's face it - other than the admins, and a few of us who care about NG (who want to help it by giving suggestions, and commenting on others), who'll know? It's not like someone will come to the General forum, and post "OMG!!@1 THERES NG CURRENCY!" - and then post a link to this. I'm sure the Wi/Ht? people aren't that dumb...

Oh, but that's where you're wrong. There are plenty of people who sometimes come from general to skim here. It isn't completely unlikely they'll see this thread, think of something they want to suggest and come across this. Then they talk to some friends on AIM or through e-mail, and soon everyone knows about this. So eventually, someone could make a thread and it gets out.

Imagine if a user posted a really big spam topic, and the mod only locked the page and banned the user - but the mod didn't delete it.

*Buzzer noise* WRONG. If you were more aware of NG's current happenings liljim has already discussed a system that wouldn't count posts in locked topics. Thus characters wouldn't be counted either if this idea was set forth.

Also, one must remember about quots - would they count as characters as well?

Quotes shouldn't be counted if the system was put into place, but you must realize, you can't have your whole post quoted, there is a percent tracker that makes sure your post isn't a certain percentage of quotes.

I personally think we should be able to instead comment whether a "Post" - instead of a "Review" was helpful or not - and if they wanted, they could mark posts as abusive, so mods would know where to look

We have enough mods currently that that isn't a problem. We have mods that regularly go to all of our sections, so most everything is noticed. Plus that could just be more tedious, such as a spam topic, everyone go and mark all of the posts abusive. The mods do a fine job already. They don't need help.


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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-18 23:51:27


At 9/18/05 11:45 PM, Xiivi wrote:
At 9/18/05 11:25 PM, Nomader wrote: Well, let's face it - other than the admins, and a few of us who care about NG (who want to help it by giving suggestions, and commenting on others), who'll know? It's not like someone will come to the General forum, and post "OMG!!@1 THERES NG CURRENCY!" - and then post a link to this. I'm sure the Wi/Ht? people aren't that dumb...
Oh, but that's where you're wrong. There are plenty of people who sometimes come from general to skim here. It isn't completely unlikely they'll see this thread, think of something they want to suggest and come across this. Then they talk to some friends on AIM or through e-mail, and soon everyone knows about this. So eventually, someone could make a thread and it gets out.

Drat - hadn't thought of alternate methods... oh well - I guess that was a mistake by Tom to reveal that - although it sounds like a great idea =/


Imagine if a user posted a really big spam topic, and the mod only locked the page and banned the user - but the mod didn't delete it.
*Buzzer noise* WRONG. If you were more aware of NG's current happenings liljim has already discussed a system that wouldn't count posts in locked topics. Thus characters wouldn't be counted either if this idea was set forth.

Yes, but I disagree with that idea- imagine those people that spent all that hard time in the NG Congress for example - and your saying it wouldn't matter cause it's locked?


Also, one must remember about quots - would they count as characters as well?
Quotes shouldn't be counted if the system was put into place, but you must realize, you can't have your whole post quoted, there is a percent tracker that makes sure your post isn't a certain percentage of quotes.

True there is, but I believe still 60 through 70% of your post can be quotes... and some people add in quoted messages that look cool - those wouldn't be counted either- but I have a feeling it would be too much of a hassle to create anyway, although your idea thanks to your convincing, is sounding more and more tempting.

like this =)

I personally think we should be able to instead comment whether a "Post" - instead of a "Review" was helpful or not - and if they wanted, they could mark posts as abusive, so mods would know where to look
We have enough mods currently that that isn't a problem. We have mods that regularly go to all of our sections, so most everything is noticed. Plus that could just be more tedious, such as a spam topic, everyone go and mark all of the posts abusive. The mods do a fine job already. They don't need help.

Once upon a time, in the C&C section, popped up a club called the "Mod Army" - I noticed how quickly it was locked - I guess that answers whether an "Abusive" button is needed or not, but I still feel the
Did you find this review interesting, contributing to the convo... etc. in any way?
"Yes" or "No"

would be a nice little feature =)


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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-19 09:17:39


At 9/18/05 07:15 PM, Big_SciZot wrote: The review ranks could be like these
http://getrdonesites..ry%20Types/ranks.gif

or these
http://www.digitaleq..icc/images/Ranks.jpg

To be honest, I don't like the way they look. Newgrounds is not a boot camp :-\

Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-19 09:40:53


At 9/18/05 11:45 PM, Xiivi wrote: *Buzzer noise* WRONG. If you were more aware of NG's current happenings liljim has already discussed a system that wouldn't count posts in locked topics.

Um... Please direct me towards where I made those comments, because I don't ever recall posting anything like that. Unless I've not made it clear in the past, it's unlikely that there will EVER be any sort of reward for posting to the bbs based off what the user has written, becaust that sort of thing is just far too open to abuse.

As for the currency remarks - you're posting about something you otherwise didn't know about until last night and which you still don't really know anything about (other than that each user gets these points every night and flash artists have the potential to earn points (actually, so do audio artists)). You STILL don't know exactly how those points are accrued, so it's non-sensical of you to try and make any judgement on how it all works. If and when we ever release such a system, it will have revisions made prior to to being released anyway.

Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-19 09:52:09


Hey liljim!

That new feature where it shows the user's name and alias is cool, but it's to stop portal abuse right? So why not just have it on movies that are UJ. 'Cos it looks kinda dumb otherwise.


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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-19 15:59:02


At 9/19/05 09:40 AM, liljim wrote: You STILL don't know exactly how those points are accrued, so it's non-sensical of you to try and make any judgement on how it all works. If and when we ever release such a system, it will have revisions made prior to to being released anyway.

Meh- it's still an interesting thing to talk about - simply thinking about the currency makes my eyes glimmer :D

But seriously liljim, I'll stop - and your right, I have no idea how it could be implimented.

But I highly suggest putting it into effect.


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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-19 16:00:36


Sorry for the double post - I just wanted to add, that about the showing the user's name and showing the alias at the same time...

Some people I see "Alias (Alias)" - They simply switch their name to their alias...


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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-19 19:17:43


Hey Liljim/TomFulp, what do you guys think about my idea to have another color for entries above 4.0?


No more animated sigs. :(

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-19 19:54:29


I guess this sorta goes along with my whole deal with the exp system... But i think once you reach a new level it shouldnt be possible to go down a level... I got to level 12 yesterday, by this morning i was back at level 11... Its discouraging when this happens because i now realize i'll have to go out of my way to deposite everyday in order for me to keep at level 12... This should only affect users up to level 29 cause i think the whole race between PIMP and HT52 (59?) is quite fun to watch...


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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-19 21:14:28


I was just reading this thread and realised people like to talk about themselves. So why not have a link in your profile to a sub-profile "about you". Where you could answer questions similar to favourite movie etc. I was thinking it could be like what you have to fill out for an NG alpha submission except the questions are about you.

what do ya think?

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-20 18:41:08


At 9/19/05 09:14 PM, brainface wrote: I was just reading this thread and realised people like to talk about themselves. So why not have a link in your profile to a sub-profile "about you". Where you could answer questions similar to favourite movie etc. I was thinking it could be like what you have to fill out for an NG alpha submission except the questions are about you.

Can't they put that stuff in their comments though? I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean a place where others can submit questions?


No more animated sigs. :(

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-21 00:55:43


Where you have the top 50, blammers and protectors, and experience and batting average, i reckon that these should be longer, incorporate everyone. Because people like to see where they stack up

Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-21 04:42:22


what about a link in your profile that tells others what topic you are looking at.

A way to find your favorite lurker

good pic

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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-21 08:34:40


At 9/21/05 04:42 AM, HairydragonballZ wrote: what about a link in your profile that tells others what topic you are looking at.

A way to find your favorite lurker

good pic

then people could make topics like "click here if your gay and dont want anyone to know".. OH SNAP.. they're caught


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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-21 08:49:15


At 9/21/05 12:55 AM, El_Sammo wrote: Where you have the top 50, blammers and protectors, and experience and batting average, i reckon that these should be longer, incorporate everyone. Because people like to see where they stack up

Extended lists have been talked about by liljim back when the NGTL was stopped, but don't hold your breath it could be a while till we get them.

Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-21 19:14:49


I have an idea for flash developers.

Basically, as I'm sure some of you may know they are things you can put in your HTML to change your flash such as:

Wmode=transparent to make your empty BG blend with the background
Menu=false to turn off the rightclick menu
quality=low/medium/high to set the quality automatically

Basically, if there could be additional options for each of these and more of those flash options that would be nice because it would allow a little more customisation to the authors needs, especially if they don't know actionscript very well, for example, they can disable "Play on start" and "loop" and ask someone to rightclick and play maybe, to help them feel more comfortable with submitting, or for authors to implement interesting designs with the transparency effect.

Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-21 22:39:42


someone pointed me to this thread so heres my idea : http://www.newground../topic.php?id=348784


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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-22 11:39:51


At 9/21/05 10:39 PM, Pilot-Doofy wrote: someone pointed me to this thread so heres my idea : http://www.newground../topic.php?id=348784

Well, I already pondered over doing something like that a while back in the original evolution thread: http://www.newground..id=225897&page=2. I can't remember what stopped me from going ahead and doing it already, but there was definitely something that made me think twice about it.

Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-22 17:15:33


Ideas (in a list). I don't know if someone already said any of these:

- Bigger image size limits
- A yearly Mod Election Campaign (or something like that)
- A photoshop forum
- A NG dictionary (shows n00bs a dictionary of all the things in NG, like who Bedn is or stuff like that.)


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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-22 17:50:42


At 9/22/05 05:15 PM, bigexplosions wrote: - Bigger image size limits

Too many picture spamming

- A yearly Mod Election Campaign (or something like that)

Held in mod lounge...?

- A photoshop forum

*gulp* Retrograde

- A NG dictionary (shows n00bs a dictionary of all the things in NG, like who Bedn is or stuff like that.)

Literature section, urbandictionary.com

Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-22 17:57:01


what about having a regulars feature at the bottom. not much of a point, but it would make us all feel better : )


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Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-22 17:58:50


At 9/22/05 05:50 PM, OsAmARaMa wrote: Too many picture spamming

What ? picture spamming is picture spamming no matter how big the image.

The reason the NG picture limits are what they are is to do with a) file size: server strain and b) size limits: must remain within the boarder so it doesn't fuck the page layout up.

Response to Ideas for Newgrounds' Evolution Mk2 2005-09-22 18:13:18


At 9/18/05 08:46 PM, Pure_LionHeart wrote: I noticed an "Advanced BBS Search" is still under contemplation, according to the first post in the topic. I'm just curios if it's already been rejected/accepted and maybe some details. I was going to make a suggestion regarding little search change, but I don't want to rehash old ideas.

Well, the above post was missed(Or ignored, or whatever), so I'll just post my idea anyway.

I think the Search needs a real fix. As it stands now, you can't search for two words together. You can put in two words, but it doesn't find results with both words in it, but all results featuring any combination of the words.

This problem is most prominent in the Clubs & Crews forum. Putting the word "club" or "crew" in any search, regardless of any other words, instantly finds you multiple pages, listing every "club" or "crew" in existance. This is clearly the main reason many repeat clubs are made. True, some don't search, but just telling users to search first is pointless. Do you really expect any users, let alone newer ones, to search through every existing club/crew just to find if one they are trying to make is still around?

Below this post is a picture example of what would happen if someone searched for a "Konami Club." As you can see, the search was useless, whether or not the club exists or not.

Would it be impossible to tweak the search so that were someone to search for "Konami Club", the only shown results would have to include both words, not just any combination of either word?

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