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Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-09-21 23:27:18


Well first off I would like to ask if I have to ask to join or may I just start to post if I'm interested?

Second has anyone noticed a pattern in the generation remakes? Gen 3 has a gen 1 remake and gen 4 has a gen 2 remake. Does this imply that gen 3 will be remade? Just a theory but I find it very possible.

Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-09-21 23:31:05


At 9/20/10 11:45 AM, chubzilla100 wrote:
Anyway, I was going to download White, But I just thought No. Firstly Its Japenese, and there are no half-decent walkthroughs avalble. Secondly, I dont wanta ruin the game so early, and Id much prefer to play it on a DS, proper experiance. Also every DS emulated game I've played has been about 0.75% slower then normal, and I get really agitated with Slow games.

Same here. That's why I import games instead of emulating them.
It's slightly expensive (Pokémon Black & White are still available on Play-Asia despite the crackdown) but it's definitely worth it.

WARNING: they will NOT work on a non-Japanese DSi. A normal DS or DS Lite should be fine, as far as I know. Please correct me if I'm wrong.


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Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-09-22 16:04:20


I believe the notion of T-Wave hitting Ground-types was tested & disproven already, so don't worry about it.

Also, if you think the items-in-battle thing will fuck things up, both players can now see each other's teams BEFORE THE BATTLE STARTS. In other words, leads are dead. However, it does make room for even more strategies to open up, so it's a tolerable change.

As far as the new TM/HM list, Stealth Rock gone pretty much forces Gen IV transferring, which is really a good thing since SR was getting a bit out of control anyway. Roost, sadly, is also gone, as well as Dark Pulse. Secret Power........ehhhh, who cares about that, anyway?

As far as new toys for old 'mons:

Luxray finally gets the STAB it's always wanted in Wild Bolt, while Flareon...............only gets Nitro Charge. Well, at least one of the two got something.

Feraligatr, thanks to Encourage (which, thankfully, ISN'T as broken an ability as I thought, like Paradox figured), might make it into OU due to Waterfall basically receiving DOUBLE-STAB, and all its other moves that Encourage affects (Ice Fang, Crunch, etc.) receiving pseudo-STAB. I think the gator just ate Gyara for breakfast.

Dragonite got even more fun new toys to play with. Gale, which is an all-weather, Flying-type version of Thunder, lets it work its way onto ANY Weather-based team - but esp. Rain, so it can have a Gale / Thunder / Surf or Aqua Tail / Outrage moveset & just tear a giant fucking hole in other teams. Bulky sets now have the Multi-Scale ability to make them even sturdier than before, meaning one will be hard-pressed to get rid of it w/o Ice spamming (and even then Multi-Scale will let it live through it when at full health anyway).

Pidgeot also gets Gale, as well as Cheer Up as an actual boosting move. So, it isn't quite at the bottom of the proverbial barrel anymore. No, it'll still probably remain in a lower tier, but it might actually work its way up to UU (where our 2 new auto-Weather 'mons will most likely be).

Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-09-22 16:19:30


At 9/21/10 08:49 PM, Tetros wrote: FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK! IT'S BEEN CONFIRMED, THE ITEMS IN BATTLE SYSTEM IS IN THE GAME. But only for wireless, not random/friend wifi matches. BUT IT STILL FUCKING SUCKS!

calm down dude, serebii reports that the only items you can "buy" are the X items, like X attack and such, so not anything really that big,

playing white and i gotta ask, is this a dragonite skelliton or not, i think it is, but the game doesn't say, according to a translator all it says is it is a legendary dragon type poke,

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Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-09-22 22:06:46


At 9/22/10 04:19 PM, deathofghosts wrote: calm down dude, serebii reports that the only items you can "buy" are the X items, like X attack and such, so not anything really that big,

Hopefully this is the case - no one will use them most likely, since most stat-boosting attacks are superior anyway.


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Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-09-23 23:35:19


At 9/22/10 10:06 PM, ParadoxVoid wrote:
At 9/22/10 04:19 PM, deathofghosts wrote: calm down dude, serebii reports that the only items you can "buy" are the X items, like X attack and such, so not anything really that big,
Hopefully this is the case - no one will use them most likely, since most stat-boosting attacks are superior anyway.

Sadly, this is not the case; I watched a video confirming the existence of a purchasable Max Revive.

Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-09-26 13:31:13


Great news to players all over the world! To all who train and attain their Pokemon legitamitely without use of Action Replay or PokeSav, Nintendo is placing WiFi bans on those who create their Pokemon on hacks should they get caught. I think this only counts for fifth generation though. I'm not too sure if they're monitoring DPPtHGSS, but they could be.

Here are some tweets.

Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-09-27 01:16:36


At 9/26/10 01:31 PM, verycoolguy wrote: Great news to players all over the world! To all who train and attain their Pokemon legitamitely without use of Action Replay or PokeSav, Nintendo is placing WiFi bans on those who create their Pokemon on hacks should they get caught. I think this only counts for fifth generation though. I'm not too sure if they're monitoring DPPtHGSS, but they could be.

Here are some tweets.

How the fuck is this "good" news?
First they force all the fansites to take down their images, and now this!
Everyone knows it's impossible to complete one's Pokédex without Mew, Celebi and a whole other shitload of event-only Pokémon! If they're going to uphold this restriction, they're going to have to implement an alternate means of obtaining these Pokémon or hold more events more often.
If not, we'll have no choice other than to hold protests. Anyone up for organizing one?


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Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-09-27 01:23:36


Don't use the unreleased event-only Pokemon on wifi?

Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-09-27 02:49:02


At 9/26/10 01:31 PM, verycoolguy wrote: Great news to players all over the world! To all who train and attain their Pokemon legitamitely without use of Action Replay or PokeSav, Nintendo is placing WiFi bans on those who create their Pokemon on hacks should they get caught. I think this only counts for fifth generation though. I'm not too sure if they're monitoring DPPtHGSS, but they could be.

I'm actually very much in favor of cheating methods for personal use (since I'll be damned if I spend three hours trying to find a female, Modest-natured Ralts with Trace ever again), but considering that TM's don't break anymore (or so I hear?), it's not really hard to have a bunch of good Pokemon with good movesets anymore. It doesn't really matter for those who only cheated to stop wasting absurd amounts of time or farm TM's from friends, since just cheating to make a Pokemon appear where it's supposed to shouldn't be detectable, and there's no longer any need to farm TM's. This should only effect those who are assholes and mod stats to the max or teach illegal moves and shit.

Also, Serebii has put the B/W images back on, but only on their Pokedex thus far. For example, Nightclub-Gardie. Not sure why the change of heart, but remember, if they remove them again, there are alternatives.


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Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-09-27 14:52:02


The main reason why people who train their Pokemon legitamitely would have a problem with people who Sav their Pokemon is not that they get their movesets easily. It's because their Pokemon can have perfect IVs. The likelihood that someone gets 31 IVs all around is.... never gonna happen. While their two stats of choice can get 31 IVs, the other four stats have random IVs, so their defensive stats could be sitting very low, while those who Sav their Pokemon will have the advantage from having perfect IVs, so their Pokemon won't be taken down faster than those who legitamitely breed their Pokemon.

Another thing I hate with Pokesav is some people try to be sneaky by adding more than 510 EVs, to make their Pokemon survive hits they shouldn't.

Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-09-28 18:04:57


I been raising my pokes legitimately for years but starting this gen I will probably start using pokesav, too much trouble and not enough time. I plan to build a trick room team so in an almost ironic turn I will be using sav to get 0 IV's instead of perfect 31's.


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Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-09-29 08:22:36


I have returned!

Hayz, everyone. I'm back! Sorry not posting for a while. My family and friends
brought me away from my love of Pokemon, but their plan failed and I escaped
their grip on me.

Anyway, started playing on Shoddy about 6 months ago and I realized, my team sucks!
So I got help from Smogon and I learned the real way of battling Pokemon.
So far I'm getting pretty good and I made another team. I've started using it on Shoddy and
it's doing pretty good. So, here it is:
P.S. I call it "The Sand Dwellers"

Tyranitar @Adamant @Lum Berry @Sand Stream
252 HP/224 SpDef/32 Atk
Stealth Rock
Stone Edge
Payback
Roar

The Lead, this guy makes the Sandstorm my team is named for.

Forretress @Careful @Leftovers @Sturdy
252 HP/252 SpDef/4 Def
Spikes
Toxic Spikes
Payback
Rapid Spin

The Rapid Spinner and Spiker, made this one SpDefensive cuz' I don't want to be completely shut down by SpAttackers (Especially Gengar and Rotom, hence Payback.).

Heatran @Modest @Life Orb @Flash Fire
252 Spd/252 SpAtk/4 Atk
Explosion
Fire Blast
Earth Power
Hidden Power(Grass)

The SpAttacker of the team. I got all the moves needed to kill almost every Pokemon my opponent uses.

Scizor @Adamant @Choice Band @Technician
252 Atk/232 HP/24 Spd
Bullet Punch
Superpower
U-turn
Pursuit

The Revenge-Killer, Physical Attacker and sometimes, Scout. CB, Techinican and Bullet Punch makes Scizor a force to be reckoned with.

Rotom-h @Modest @Choice Scarf @Levitate
252 SpAtk/252 Spd/4 Def
Overheat
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
Trick

The other SpAttacker of the team, I also use it to stop Setuppers flat in their tracks.

Gliscor @Jolly @Brightpowder @Sand Veil
252 HP/252 Spd/4 Atk
Earthquake
Taunt
Toxic
Roost

Ahh... My favorite guy on the team, Makes my opponents middle name "RAGEQUIT"
cuz' of the Sand Veil + Brightpowder combo.

Pls. leave your comments pand suggestions, yadda yadda, hope you like my team, yadda yadda,
Peace out and such.

Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-09-29 17:03:29


At 9/29/10 08:22 AM, RedQuito wrote: I have returned!

Hayz, everyone. I'm back! Sorry not posting for a while. My family and friends
brought me away from my love of Pokemon, but their plan failed and I escaped
their grip on me.

I Call BoShit, but go on.

Anyway, started playing on Shoddy about 6 months ago and I realized, my team sucks!
So I got help from Smogon and I learned the real way of battling Pokemon.
So far I'm getting pretty good and I made another team. I've started using it on Shoddy and
it's doing pretty good. So, here it is:
P.S. I call it "The Sand Dwellers"

Some Pokemons

Ahh... My favorite guy on the team, Makes my opponents middle name "RAGEQUIT"
cuz' of the Sand Veil + Brightpowder combo.

Annoying as hell, I like it


Pls. leave your comments pand suggestions, yadda yadda, hope you like my team, yadda yadda,
Peace out and such.

Quite A good team, I was then thinking of doing Either a "Hail" Team, Or an All out water team, one I've been meaning to do for a while. I might post it later, If I remember/Can be Arsed.


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Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-09-29 23:03:39


At 9/29/10 05:04 PM, Tetros wrote: New game revealed! Wait, it's for little kids? FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU

Sounds more like a way they can get that keyboard out into the public, than a legitimate attempt at a game.


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Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-09-30 01:04:48


At 9/27/10 02:49 AM, SlashFirestorm wrote:
I'm actually very much in favor of cheating methods for personal use (since I'll be damned if I spend three hours trying to find a female, Modest-natured Ralts with Trace ever again), but considering that TM's don't break anymore (or so I hear?), it's not really hard to have a bunch of good Pokemon with good movesets anymore. It doesn't really matter for those who only cheated to stop wasting absurd amounts of time or farm TM's from friends, since just cheating to make a Pokemon appear where it's supposed to shouldn't be detectable, and there's no longer any need to farm TM's. This should only effect those who are assholes and mod stats to the max or teach illegal moves and shit.

I see your point and have to agree with you there.
But that still doesn't change the fact that Nintendo is putting everyone else in double jeopardy because many of us have been forced to use Action Replay codes to get our hands on legendary Pokémon. They only hold one event per Pokémon per generation and only a select few people ever follow through, since most of us have outside lives to conduct and/or geographic restrictions.

If anyone makes any snotty remarks such as "You're just pissy because you didn't get any. PWND" or "You snooze, you lose", there will be hell to pay. Just so you know I was lucky enough to get a legitimate Manaphy not too long ago.
Also, Serebii has put the B/W images back on, but only on their Pokedex thus far. For example, Nightclub-Gardie.

I fucking want that.

Not sure why the change of heart, but remember, if they remove them again, there are alternatives.

I told you, it's a power play. They're just throwing their legal weight around because they can, not because there's any applicable reasoning behind it.


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Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-09-30 11:04:24


I never actually played the fourth generation, so I don't know if this is new or not, but according to Serebii, Rotom in the fifth generation now has different type combos for each of its different forms. Like, its lawnmower form is Electric/Grass.

...still angry that it's in the same breeding group as Gardevoir...indeterminate, my ass...


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Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-09-30 12:47:56


Yeah, Rotom's been relieved of his Spinblocker status (except in lower tiers). It just gained a bunch of new uses, though. Wash is the most hyped right now, Heat just became Scizor's arch-nemesis, and Fridge gained a nifty use on Hail teams. Fan has become the least useful (what with Zappy & the 2nd genie around), and Cut is still ok.

Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-09-30 12:54:52


Oh, I forgot, what old 'mons do you guys think will jump a tier this time around? Like I said before, 'Gatr will most likely now that it has Encourage for double-STAB Waterfall. Arcanine definitely has the potential to make OU, now with Wild Bolt to replace T-Fang, CLOSE COMBAT as an Egg Move, and a new-&-improved E-Speed with priority over other priority moves. A few NFE 'mons, like Chansey, Porygon2 & Gligar, actually get bulkier than their evos while holding the new Pre-Evolution Stone (just watch out for Trick/Switcheroo/Knock Off).

Any specific others you think will leap a tier?

Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-09-30 17:05:45


At 9/29/10 08:22 AM, RedQuito wrote: Gliscor @Jolly @Brightpowder @Sand Veil
252 HP/252 Spd/4 Atk
Earthquake
Taunt
Toxic
Roost

Ahh... My favorite guy on the team, Makes my opponents middle name "RAGEQUIT"
cuz' of the Sand Veil + Brightpowder combo.

I hope you don't plan on using this in serious battles, since I'm pretty sure that Brightpowder is a violation of the Evasion and/or ("unofficial" but still very widely used) Luck/Hax Item clauses.

Some people choose to forgo clauses entirely and just go all out with random strategies, but for most players, those rules should be in effect. After all, I'm pretty sure you'd be pissed too if you lost only because your opponent got lucky with misses.

For the record though, Sand Veil (and other abilities that raise evasion in weather) does not break the Evasion clause, probably because certain Pokemon only have those abilities to use. I personally don't like relying on luck, but that's just me.

Of course, if you don't feel like playing just on Shoddy, you could use this to annoy the hell out of your friends or something. If this is for Shoddy...I'd suggest you change it.

Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-09-30 18:07:06


Okay guys, whats your all time Favirote team of 6? Not counting Power/Stats, Just Faviorte Pokemon
Mine would go

Pidgeot

Tauros

Kingler

Slowking/Bro (I can never Deicied, SlowKing looks more powerful, But Bro Looks a lot sturdyer)

Gengar (Shiny)

Magmortar

Mostly because I think of lil Poke Battle things, and those pokemon have a lot of varitey in them. Ditto was a close choice, as was Machamp, Gardevior, Alakazam, Rotom and Steelix/Onix (Again, Both Are Good pokemons, Tacticly)

So, what are yours?


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Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-09-30 18:52:57


At 9/30/10 06:07 PM, chubzilla100 wrote: Okay guys, whats your all time Favirote team of 6? Not counting Power/Stats, Just Faviorte Pokemon

Espeon- my favorite pokemon all arround, just for the fact that its a psycic type and a eevee evo

Absol- looks kick-ass

Magby- cute and fire

Elekid- cute and electric

Yooterie- the cute new puppy poke in white, so cool

Duskull- a cool ghost

Mew- i liked him in the movie


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Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-10-01 06:44:38


At 9/30/10 05:05 PM, mrbobbyjoe wrote:
At 9/29/10 08:22 AM, RedQuito wrote: Gliscor @Jolly @Brightpowder @Sand Veil
252 HP/252 Spd/4 Atk
Earthquake
Taunt
Toxic
Roost

Ahh... My favorite guy on the team, Makes my opponents middle name "RAGEQUIT"
cuz' of the Sand Veil + Brightpowder combo.
I hope you don't plan on using this in serious battles, since I'm pretty sure that Brightpowder is a violation of the Evasion and/or ("unofficial" but still very widely used) Luck/Hax Item clauses.

Some people choose to forgo clauses entirely and just go all out with random strategies, but for most players, those rules should be in effect. After all, I'm pretty sure you'd be pissed too if you lost only because your opponent got lucky with misses.

For the record though, Sand Veil (and other abilities that raise evasion in weather) does not break the Evasion clause, probably because certain Pokemon only have those abilities to use. I personally don't like relying on luck, but that's just me.

Of course, if you don't feel like playing just on Shoddy, you could use this to annoy the hell out of your friends or something. If this is for Shoddy...I'd suggest you change it.

Actually, some guy from Smogon told me to use this team. My old Gliscor looked like this:
(P.S. The Evasion clause says it only bans moves that up evasion, not items. Here's where I got the info.: http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/intro_
comp_pokemon#clause
)

Gliscor @ Jolly@ Life Orb
40 HP/252 Atk/216 Spd
Swords Dance
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Roost

Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-10-11 15:59:19


Nintendo's certainly having a shitload of trouble with the DW site, aren't they? I'm beginning to wonder if they've bitten off more than they can chew...

I want to make a Gen V Rain team so badly. I haven't played my Gen IV games in a while, but I'm definitely gonna get my E-Speed Dragonite ready for transferring before the US versions come out so I can get Gale on that sumbitch. E-Speed / Gale / Thunder / filler (Aqua Tail, Claw Sharpen, Outrage......so many choices) is going to rip shit up quickly. Thank god Gale is a level-up move.

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Yeah guys I got my WiFi Working, So if anyone wants To Trade/battle PM me.

URGANT REQUEST: My AR is fucked (Goddamn Windows 7, its not a virus) So if someone wouldn't mind AR-ing some pokemon for me, Trading them over WiFi Aswell Please. if you Can PM me please. I got The code (Somewhere). I'll see what I can give you If you want (Shiny Golem/ maril?)


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Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-10-12 21:39:30


At 10/12/10 06:20 PM, chubzilla100 wrote: Yeah guys I got my WiFi Working, So if anyone wants To Trade/battle PM me.

URGANT REQUEST: My AR is fucked (Goddamn Windows 7, its not a virus) So if someone wouldn't mind AR-ing some pokemon for me, Trading them over WiFi Aswell Please. if you Can PM me please. I got The code (Somewhere). I'll see what I can give you If you want (Shiny Golem/ maril?)

Were you not listening the past two or three pages? Nintendo is levying BANS on people who use Action Replays now!


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Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-10-14 20:37:45


At 10/12/10 09:39 PM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote: Were you not listening the past two or three pages? Nintendo is levying BANS on people who use Action Replays now!

Well unless Nintendo can tell whether things are completely legit just by looking at random data that goes around Wi-Fi, there's nothing stopping people from using hacks to make perfectly legal things just to save time, like what a lot of people do.

From what I've seen so far (haven't touched the newer games yet but I know a few people who have them), they can only stop things that are blatantly hacked, like stats that go past the limit. I'm not sure what they could do when confronted with something that looks normal, since the people who are used to the mechanics could very easily make them so.

Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-10-15 00:06:29


Sup guys, Pokemon-Online allows people to battle with the 5th Gen Pokemon, as well as 5th Gen moves, abliities, etc.
What I don't like is how it allows use of unreleased Dream World abliities, because it's impossible to have teams like that on the DS without hacking.
I'm like, raging after most of these battles >.<, I have no idea what the hell anything does.

Response to Tanooki_John's Pro-pokemon club 2010-10-15 00:36:07


At 10/14/10 08:37 PM, mrbobbyjoe wrote:
Well unless Nintendo can tell whether things are completely legit just by looking at random data that goes around Wi-Fi, there's nothing stopping people from using hacks to make perfectly legal things just to save time, like what a lot of people do.

From what I've seen so far (haven't touched the newer games yet but I know a few people who have them), they can only stop things that are blatantly hacked, like stats that go past the limit. I'm not sure what they could do when confronted with something that looks normal, since the people who are used to the mechanics could very easily make them so.

Let me tell you something from my personal experience:
My brother and I used an Action Replay to get all the rare event-only Pokémon, and when I tried to trade one away it gave me an error message saying "That Pokémon may not be offered for trade!"
So they are somehow able to detect whether or not a Pokémon is legitimate just by looking at its data before it's traded, which does not bode well for other issues.

At 10/15/10 12:06 AM, verycoolguy wrote: What I don't like is how it allows use of unreleased Dream World abliities, because it's impossible to have teams like that on the DS without hacking.
I'm like, raging after most of these battles >.<, I have no idea what the hell anything does.

So does that mean that the Dream World is only accessible on the DSi?
FUCK!


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At 10/15/10 12:36 AM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote: So does that mean that the Dream World is only accessible on the DSi?
FUCK!

Uh, no? I said that because Dream World abilities are like events. It's impossible to use the Shadow Tag Candle on the DS because it's not out yet.