At 1/30/25 01:48 AM, SkilledFella wrote:Trash update. If I were you, I would reduce number 14 with one. 13y/olds have right to join NG, and about gore images, let them ignore and block these.
Did you even read the post? Or any of his replies? It's out of his hands
At 1/30/25 03:50 AM, Void wrote:At 1/30/25 01:48 AM, SkilledFella wrote:Trash update. If I were you, I would reduce number 14 with one. 13y/olds have right to join NG, and about gore images, let them ignore and block these.Did you even read the post? Or any of his replies? It's out of his hands
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Only this section.
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At 1/30/25 03:52 AM, SkilledFella wrote:At 1/30/25 03:50 AM, Void wrote:At 1/30/25 01:48 AM, SkilledFella wrote:Trash update. If I were you, I would reduce number 14 with one. 13y/olds have right to join NG, and about gore images, let them ignore and block these.Did you even read the post? Or any of his replies? It's out of his hands
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Only this section.
It's better to raise the sign-up age than get sued for 18 million dollars
I have a question, Tom, because I didn't understand a thing regarding this, sorry if I'm stupid:
We’ve also changed the PM system, so that sending images via PM is now a Supporter feature. Reasons for this are people abusing the system with shock photos, the potential for creepy stuff happening and to better comply with the UK Online Safety Act.
Does this apply to all accounts regardless of age or is it limited to the interaction with minor accounts? I explain myself better:
minor account - adult account
the minor account sends an image via PM to the adult account, does this apply?
the adult account sends an image via PM to the minor account, does this apply?
minor account - minor account
the minor account sends an image via PM to the minor account, does this apply?
adult account - adult account
the adult account sends an image via PM to the adult account, does this apply?
Thank you and sorry for this question, I just want to know better how this works.
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At 1/30/25 03:09 AM, ZombieGhost wrote:I'm hetero sexual
Say the line, @DamnedByFate!
"If you're going through hell... keep going."
~ Winston Churchill (Maybe)
Unfortunate how regulated the Internet's becoming. It seems like you're most susceptive to new interests at a younger age, so I really hope these age restrictions don't end up greatly limiting new user's potential for finding and getting into lifelong creative crafts and interests here, as plenty have in the past, with a community that'd encourage it; provide a place of kinship and purpose that lasts... I wonder if I would have ever even tried Flash had I not stumbled upon this place at 13, and gotten the occupations I have because of that, a few years later and I was already pretty stuck in my ways.
So it's unfortunate the age limit push is necessary, but understandable, law is law...
The age-requirement change on PMs seems useful too, though unfortunate there too that image support's getting paywalled, and I wonder if the limitation will really limit the abuse. I mean there are plenty of image-hosting websites out there, and I assume you'll still be able to send links... seems flagging + a regular blacklist may be better.
Really hope the documentary does get funding anyhow; looking forward to Flash Forward February!
At 1/30/25 05:50 AM, Cyberdevil wrote:Unfortunate how regulated the Internet's becoming. It seems like you're most susceptive to new interests at a younger age, so I really hope these age restrictions don't end up greatly limiting new user's potential for finding and getting into lifelong creative crafts and interests here, with a community that'd encourage it; provide a place of kinship and purpose that lasts... I wonder if I would have ever even tried Flash had I not stumbled upon this place at 13, and gotten the occupations I have because of that, a few years later and I was already pretty stuck in my ways.
So it's unfortunate the age limit push is necessary, but understandable, law is law...
The age-requirement change on PMs seems useful too, though unfortunate there too that image support's getting paywalled, and I wonder if the limitation will really limit the abuse. I mean there are plenty of image-hosting websites out there, and I assume you'll still be able to send links...
Really hope the documentary does get funding anyhow; looking forward to Flash Forward February!
What happened to small government? It was here a minute ago. I don't remember throwing it.
"If you're going through hell... keep going."
~ Winston Churchill (Maybe)
At 1/30/25 05:51 AM, xeiavica wrote:What happened to small government? It was here a minute ago. I don't remember throwing it.
I hadn't even heard that term actually... wonder if we've really had any small governments during my lifetime, feels like everything's been getting progressively more and more intrusive, and regulated, more and more instances of control developed under the pretenses of progress, integrity and safety. Even if it's all done with good intent bureaucracy has a tendency to compound, and the reasons for cumulative regulation muddle.
We could probably use some kind of societal reset, like the Mayans used to practice. Every few centuries just burn everything down and start anew; begone all old, outdated non-serving dogmas and customs...
At 1/30/25 05:39 AM, xeiavica wrote:At 1/30/25 03:09 AM, ZombieGhost wrote:I'm hetero sexualSay the line, @DamnedByFate!
At 1/30/25 05:51 AM, xeiavica wrote:What happened to small government? It was here a minute ago. I don't remember throwing it.
Small government died with George Washington.
At 1/30/25 06:07 AM, DamnedByFate wrote:At 1/30/25 05:39 AM, xeiavica wrote:At 1/30/25 03:09 AM, ZombieGhost wrote:I'm hetero sexualSay the line, @DamnedByFate!At 1/30/25 05:51 AM, xeiavica wrote:
What happened to small government? It was here a minute ago. I don't remember throwing it.
Small government died with George Washington.
Betcha miss ol' thatcher don'tcha buddy.
"If you're going through hell... keep going."
~ Winston Churchill (Maybe)
At 1/30/25 06:09 AM, xeiavica wrote:At 1/30/25 06:07 AM, DamnedByFate wrote:Betcha miss ol' thatcher don'tcha buddy.At 1/30/25 05:39 AM, xeiavica wrote:At 1/30/25 03:09 AM, ZombieGhost wrote:I'm hetero sexualSay the line, @DamnedByFate!At 1/30/25 05:51 AM, xeiavica wrote:
What happened to small government? It was here a minute ago. I don't remember throwing it.
Small government died with George Washington.
Maggie was the definitive point where everything went downhill, and everyone north of the Thames knows it.
At 1/30/25 01:48 AM, SkilledFella wrote:Trash update. If I were you, I would reduce number 14 with one. 13y/olds have right to join NG, and about gore images, let them ignore and block these.
This is ironically one of the few changes I liked. YouTube has a similar age requirement that people just ignore (or at least it did, I dunno if it still does), and NG has far less moderation and fewer content guidelines than YouTube does.
I dunno why people think NG can simultaneously have hardcore content and be a playground for small children like this... It’d be like having a daycare at a pub!
At 1/30/25 05:15 AM, ShangXian wrote:I have a question, Tom, because I didn't understand a thing regarding this, sorry if I'm stupid:
Does this apply to all accounts regardless of age or is it limited to the interaction with minor accounts? I explain myself better:
minor account - adult account
the minor account sends an image via PM to the adult account, does this apply?
the adult account sends an image via PM to the minor account, does this apply?
If the minor is a paid Supporter, they would still be able to send an image to an adult account and if the adult is a Supporter they could reply with an image. There is still risk there but the Supporter status adds more accountability and a barrier that greatly reduces the potential for abuse.
minor account - minor account
the minor account sends an image via PM to the minor account, does this apply?
A minor account won't be able to message another minor account unless they are friends / follows, at which point they could message each other and if they are supporters, could send images.
adult account - adult account
the adult account sends an image via PM to the adult account, does this apply?
If the adult is a Supporter they can send images in PMs to other adults.
At 1/30/25 02:34 AM, EuropeanRat wrote:I think you screwed up some code for the mobile frontpage.
(can you see whats missing? super cool find the difference hehe)
I haven't been able to recreate this on my end. What mobile OS / browser are you using? Anyone else seeing this?
At 1/30/25 07:51 AM, TomFulp wrote:At 1/30/25 02:34 AM, EuropeanRat wrote:I think you screwed up some code for the mobile frontpage.
(can you see whats missing? super cool find the difference hehe)
I haven't been able to recreate this on my end. What mobile OS / browser are you using? Anyone else seeing this?
the same thing is happening on my end and I’m on iOS
Currently working on a cartoon this summer. Stay tuned I guess. Heh.
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At 1/29/25 04:08 PM, Anamonator wrote:At 1/29/25 03:58 PM, DioShiba wrote:Word of advice and word to the wise: Never underestimate the stupidity of people. ESPECIALLY TEENAGERS.
Sorry to sound generalizing but I lost count of how many kids and teenagers I've seen who were stupid enough to reveal their actual age and even if it's an adult pretending to be a kid that's problematic for other reasons.
I think that revealing your real age will stop weird people from interacting with minors because now when the minor exposes the pedo, the pedo has no excuse to lie. Therefore, the pedos will think twice before sexting minors on NG
Basically what I mean by this is that the adult can’t get away with saying that they didn’t know the minor’s when they pm them and groom them. Therefore this could stop pedophiles on Newgrounds. (I’m trying to make sense but could someone sum this up better so it makes sense because it’s not making sense to some people)
Currently working on a cartoon this summer. Stay tuned I guess. Heh.
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It's gonna be a lot slower on the art forum without all the fetuses asking why they aren't scouted.
At 1/30/25 08:02 AM, Skoops wrote:It's gonna be a lot slower on the art forum without all the fetuses asking why they aren't scouted.
We are gonna be very tacky I’m assuming
Currently working on a cartoon this summer. Stay tuned I guess. Heh.
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Hah, kids will start taking their parents' phones for porn.
We've gone all the way back to getting an older dude to buy you alcohol.
With how shitty governments are protecting citizen data, these messy regulations will promote the market of identity theft to a new level. I might just end up renewing my national ID card every year just so the old one isn't valid anymore.
It's so ridiculous. Sites that adhere to these rules will suffer and kids who try to watch porn will find it in the shadiest places where the law don't shine (torrent, xyz sites, etc).
At 1/30/25 07:44 AM, TomFulp wrote:At 1/30/25 05:15 AM, ShangXian wrote:I have a question, Tom, because I didn't understand a thing regarding this, sorry if I'm stupid:
Does this apply to all accounts regardless of age or is it limited to the interaction with minor accounts? I explain myself better:
minor account - adult account
the minor account sends an image via PM to the adult account, does this apply?
the adult account sends an image via PM to the minor account, does this apply?
If the minor is a paid Supporter, they would still be able to send an image to an adult account and if the adult is a Supporter they could reply with an image. There is still risk there but the Supporter status adds more accountability and a barrier that greatly reduces the potential for abuse.
minor account - minor account
the minor account sends an image via PM to the minor account, does this apply?
A minor account won't be able to message another minor account unless they are friends / follows, at which point they could message each other and if they are supporters, could send images.
adult account - adult account
the adult account sends an image via PM to the adult account, does this apply?
If the adult is a Supporter they can send images in PMs to other adults.
Thank you very much, now it's more clear to me.
Dort wo man Bücher verbrennt, verbrennt man auch am Ende Menschen- Heinrich Heine
La religione promette, la scienza mantiene- OsaSapere
Flaws are the best: they create anomalies, and anomalies bend into creativity-EmsDeLaRoZ
How to detect AI-generated music (mainly Suno AI and Udio AI)
I believe that there's beauty in giving sadness a voice-ForgottenDawn
We can only say that we’re heading towards the tipping point and that AMOC tipping is possible-René van Westen
Books should be read twice. Once to understand them, and once to think-Libero (Il diritto alla felicità)
Better to have loved and lost than to end up a bitter incel-Piss
This month we raised the minimum sign-up age to 14 and we intend to gradually raise it this year until we settle on 16 as the minimum age.
The next round of updates will make it so you can't PM a minor account unless they follow you, message you first, or are friends with you. This is also in line with UK regulatory guidance but also for the best overall. If you never noticed, there is already a flag button in each PM you receive, if you ever get something creepy.
w updates
:^)
if anyone can back up my claim on why revealing your age can stop pedophiles please do because i really want to make this clear.
i want to stop pedophiles at all costs. Its inhumane
Currently working on a cartoon this summer. Stay tuned I guess. Heh.
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At 1/30/25 07:56 AM, Anamonator wrote:At 1/30/25 07:51 AM, TomFulp wrote:At 1/30/25 02:34 AM, EuropeanRat wrote:I think you screwed up some code for the mobile frontpage.
(can you see whats missing? super cool find the difference hehe)
I haven't been able to recreate this on my end. What mobile OS / browser are you using? Anyone else seeing this?
the same thing is happening on my end and I’m on iOS
What exactly are you both pointing out (or not) here?
At 1/29/25 06:09 PM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:Do accounts from 2006 or older have to be verified still?
That has been on my mind actually, if ID checks become a thing I think we could risk assuming old accounts actually belong to adults.
i didn't join the site proper until i was 16, thankfully.
..buuuut i was playing castle crashers with my younger brothers when i was about 7. whoops.
I don't like living in this timeline. Why does privacy have to be such a fantasy thing? I feel like Ellis Redding at the end of Shawshank redemption. Privacy is something I could talk about a lot; I'm not sure that would be the most suitable thing to do in this forum however. I think that one day during my lifetime it will feel normal to have surveillance in our homes, and people have smartphones so in a way it's already like that. ("I don't care about privacy since I've got nothing to hide")
On the topic of pm images; it feels a bit harsh to limit it to supporters. It would feel a bit more fair to say one month of supporter status may grant unlimited permission to send images in pms. I do understand the concern, I have seen some things myself at a young age (specifically targeted at young people..) that I wish I didn't. People will be people.
Another possible solution could be limiting the ability to send images in pms to accounts that are like 3 month old or something; that could be somewhat circumvented however by mass creating accounts.
I wonder if algorithms could be used to recognise all common shock images and instantly ban the offender for sending them
HeroPapaya~
i just hope that this doesn't affect me being pretty close of have 15 years, but, i can perfectly understand why are you doing it.
At 1/30/25 07:59 AM, Anamonator wrote:At 1/29/25 04:08 PM, Anamonator wrote:At 1/29/25 03:58 PM, DioShiba wrote:Word of advice and word to the wise: Never underestimate the stupidity of people. ESPECIALLY TEENAGERS.
Sorry to sound generalizing but I lost count of how many kids and teenagers I've seen who were stupid enough to reveal their actual age and even if it's an adult pretending to be a kid that's problematic for other reasons.
I think that revealing your real age will stop weird people from interacting with minors because now when the minor exposes the pedo, the pedo has no excuse to lie. Therefore, the pedos will think twice before sexting minors on NG
Basically what I mean by this is that the adult can’t get away with saying that they didn’t know the minor’s when they pm them and groom them. Therefore this could stop pedophiles on Newgrounds. (I’m trying to make sense but could someone sum this up better so it makes sense because it’s not making sense to some people)
Except the problem is a pedo, an actual pedo doesn't just have to rely on newgrounds to exploit a minor. Hell it takes one server on a discord and they still can do what you would expect them to do.
Do not get me wrong, I think the changes on Newgrounds directly can help curb the problematic creepers from contacting minors. However, it is not fool proof because users also have their own individual servers that they are ultimately responsible for moderating those interactions unless through discord DM.
Its a larger problem that goes beyond the boundaries of Newgrounds and that's where some level of vigilence still need be applied.
Just to be clear, everyone here is on the same page as you are but we also have to approach these things realistically.
At 1/30/25 07:51 AM, TomFulp wrote:At 1/30/25 02:34 AM, EuropeanRat wrote:I think you screwed up some code for the mobile frontpage.
(can you see whats missing? super cool find the difference hehe)
I haven't been able to recreate this on my end. What mobile OS / browser are you using? Anyone else seeing this?
Chrome Canary (latest version, i just checked), Android 14, on a Xiaomi Redmi A3
Edit: me so dumb to forget browser grr
At 1/30/25 08:25 AM, liljim wrote:What exactly are you both pointing out (or not) here?
At the top, there is mostly a banner with a link to literally anything, mostly featured movies/games but it also contained the banner to the once upon a time kickstarter.
It should show the banner for "Die for the lich", but it doesn't appear
