At 1/29/25 04:55 PM, ShangXian wrote:

At 1/29/25 10:23 AM, Myceli0m wrote:

We’ve also changed the PM system, so that sending images via PM is now a Supporter feature. Reasons for this are people abusing the system with shock photos, the potential for creepy stuff happening and to better comply with the UK Online Safety Act.

What the hell are people sending to eachother in PM's?

I can confirm after I discovered a user, a minor, got some gory images sent by a person with an unhealthy obsession for a serial killer just because this kid rightly didn't want to draw such serial killer. I am very glad the account was reported and cancelled from the site.

At 1/29/25 05:05 PM, DioShiba wrote:

At 1/29/25 04:55 PM, ShangXian wrote:

At 1/29/25 10:23 AM, Myceli0m wrote:

We’ve also changed the PM system, so that sending images via PM is now a Supporter feature. Reasons for this are people abusing the system with shock photos, the potential for creepy stuff happening and to better comply with the UK Online Safety Act.

What the hell are people sending to eachother in PM's?

I can confirm after I discovered a user, a minor, got some gory images sent by a person with an unhealthy obsession for a serial killer just because this kid rightly didn't want to draw such serial killer. I am very glad the account was reported and cancelled from the site.

If it was John Wayne Gacy I'm yeeting myself outta here

At 1/29/25 05:04 PM, Anamonator wrote:

At 1/29/25 04:55 PM, ShangXian wrote:

At 1/29/25 10:23 AM, Myceli0m wrote:

We’ve also changed the PM system, so that sending images via PM is now a Supporter feature. Reasons for this are people abusing the system with shock photos, the potential for creepy stuff happening and to better comply with the UK Online Safety Act.

What the hell are people sending to eachother in PM's?

I can confirm after I discovered a user, a minor, got some gory images sent by a person with an unhealthy obsession for a serial killer just because this kid rightly didn't want to draw such serial killer. I am very glad the account was reported and cancelled from the site.

Then again I can see how the “Minor has to follow adult before adult can talk to minor” shit can be easily exploitable. They adult can trick the minor into following them

At 1/29/25 05:10 PM, ShangXian wrote:

At 1/29/25 05:05 PM, DioShiba wrote:

At 1/29/25 04:55 PM, ShangXian wrote:

At 1/29/25 10:23 AM, Myceli0m wrote:

We’ve also changed the PM system, so that sending images via PM is now a Supporter feature. Reasons for this are people abusing the system with shock photos, the potential for creepy stuff happening and to better comply with the UK Online Safety Act.

What the hell are people sending to eachother in PM's?

I can confirm after I discovered a user, a minor, got some gory images sent by a person with an unhealthy obsession for a serial killer just because this kid rightly didn't want to draw such serial killer. I am very glad the account was reported and cancelled from the site.

If it was John Wayne Gacy I'm yeeting myself outta here

No, it was a German serial killer

At 1/29/25 05:17 PM, TomFulp wrote:

At 1/29/25 05:14 PM, Rerstuf wrote:Unless a minor can't send a PM to another minor, that's already very easy to exploit by just pretending to be a minor.

They won't be able to do that without being friends / following each other.

At 1/29/25 12:08 PM, ChazDude wrote:Thanks, Keir. Can't wait for the inevitable data breaches.

For someone who joined at 14, I'm glad to know there's a grandfather clause. I'm sure thousands of other creatives/lurkers who signed up as minors will nonetheless be totally understanding of the increase. No more corruption of innocent youth (or not-so-innocent youth corrupting the BBS with their immature shitposting!).

At 1/29/25 05:49 PM, CappyCatII wrote:

At 1/29/25 12:08 PM, ChazDude wrote:Thanks, Keir. Can't wait for the inevitable data breaches.

For someone who joined at 14, I'm glad to know there's a grandfather clause. I'm sure thousands of other creatives/lurkers who signed up as minors will nonetheless be totally understanding of the increase. No more corruption of innocent youth (or not-so-innocent youth corrupting the BBS with their immature shitposting!).

Fill me in on this, what are the repercussions of the act?

At 1/29/25 06:01 PM, Chezmond wrote:

At 1/29/25 05:11 PM, Edeshye wrote:i'm just glad furry stuff wasn't around when i was a kid
only good old human hentai

First furry con was in 1989, first furry web group was 1990. Unless your childhood was pre 80s, it absolutely was around lol

At 1/29/25 06:10 PM, Edeshye wrote:

At 1/29/25 06:01 PM, Chezmond wrote:

At 1/29/25 05:11 PM, Edeshye wrote:i'm just glad furry stuff wasn't around when i was a kid
only good old human hentai

First furry con was in 1989, first furry web group was 1990. Unless your childhood was pre 80s, it absolutely was around lol

well you obviously were not, lol

At 1/29/25 05:21 PM, TomFulp wrote:

At 1/29/25 05:11 PM, SparkNitro wrote:Sir Fulp, If the law required legitimate IDs, where would said information go?
Would it be used once and discarded or be kept in an database?

We would use a third party verification service and those services aren't supposed to retain any of the records in these cases. So NG would never see your ID (we just get a Yes or No from the service) and as long as the third party service isn't lying, the ID info wouldn't be retained.

At 1/29/25 06:37 PM, AKA-38CAUTION wrote:

At 1/29/25 05:21 PM, TomFulp wrote:

At 1/29/25 05:11 PM, SparkNitro wrote:Sir Fulp, If the law required legitimate IDs, where would said information go?
Would it be used once and discarded or be kept in an database?

We would use a third party verification service and those services aren't supposed to retain any of the records in these cases. So NG would never see your ID (we just get a Yes or No from the service) and as long as the third party service isn't lying, the ID info wouldn't be retained.

>> as long as the third party service isn't lying

That is the problem, what service can we trust to handle the picture of our ID (where our personal information, such as full name, Street address, State, and Birthday are visible)? Because if they're actually collecting them for data purposes (and advertisement/data broker, let's get fucking real) and they get data breached, we're fucked.

It is not the same as just handing over your ID to a real person, you hand over your digital photo of your ID to these online companies (that do ID verification) and if that company does collect them (i.e not deleting them after they confirmed you're adult) and gets hacked, those images are now under some hacker and those images will duplicate into thousands in seconds (sharing with their friends > they download that image of your ID > They Repost it to their friend, Repeat), and a few hours later, they probably gonna sell them as counterfeit ID. We're looking at a huge increase in the Black Market in history (and worst case: eventually, some teens are gonna find their way to grab those counterfeit IDs so they can use it to bypass verification. It is very Unlikely but you never know)

I do support the idea that people under 18 shouldn't have access to adult content nor should they see some fuck up content (I witness goatse on DeviantArt back in 2017, never been the same since) but people will always find a loophole around this. It is not a bulletproof plan (at same time however, I don't think there is other way).

At 1/29/25 06:42 PM, Anamonator wrote:

At 1/29/25 06:37 PM, AKA-38CAUTION wrote:

At 1/29/25 05:21 PM, TomFulp wrote:

At 1/29/25 05:11 PM, SparkNitro wrote:Sir Fulp, If the law required legitimate IDs, where would said information go?
Would it be used once and discarded or be kept in an database?

We would use a third party verification service and those services aren't supposed to retain any of the records in these cases. So NG would never see your ID (we just get a Yes or No from the service) and as long as the third party service isn't lying, the ID info wouldn't be retained.

>> as long as the third party service isn't lying

That is the problem, what service can we trust to handle the picture of our ID (where our personal information, such as full name, Street address, State, and Birthday are visible)? Because if they're actually collecting them for data purposes (and advertisement/data broker, let's get fucking real) and they get data breached, we're fucked.

It is not the same as just handing over your ID to a real person, you hand over your digital photo of your ID to these online companies (that do ID verification) and if that company does collect them (i.e not deleting them after they confirmed you're adult) and gets hacked, those images are now under some hacker and those images will duplicate into thousands in seconds (sharing with their friends > they download that image of your ID > They Repost it to their friend, Repeat), and a few hours later, they probably gonna sell them as counterfeit ID. We're looking at a huge increase in the Black Market in history (and worst case: eventually, some teens are gonna find their way to grab those counterfeit IDs so they can use it to bypass verification. It is very Unlikely but you never know)

I do support the idea that people under 18 shouldn't have access to adult content nor should they see some fuck up content (I witness goatse on DeviantArt back in 2017, never been the same since) but people will always find a loophole around this. It is not a bulletproof plan (at same time however, I don't think there is other way).

Yeah unfortunately someone has sent me Pichu feet fetish and tried to justify Pichu NSFW because its a Pokemon.

At 1/29/25 06:47 PM, DioShiba wrote:

At 1/29/25 06:42 PM, Anamonator wrote:

At 1/29/25 06:37 PM, AKA-38CAUTION wrote:

At 1/29/25 05:21 PM, TomFulp wrote:

At 1/29/25 05:11 PM, SparkNitro wrote:Sir Fulp, If the law required legitimate IDs, where would said information go?
Would it be used once and discarded or be kept in an database?

We would use a third party verification service and those services aren't supposed to retain any of the records in these cases. So NG would never see your ID (we just get a Yes or No from the service) and as long as the third party service isn't lying, the ID info wouldn't be retained.

>> as long as the third party service isn't lying

That is the problem, what service can we trust to handle the picture of our ID (where our personal information, such as full name, Street address, State, and Birthday are visible)? Because if they're actually collecting them for data purposes (and advertisement/data broker, let's get fucking real) and they get data breached, we're fucked.

It is not the same as just handing over your ID to a real person, you hand over your digital photo of your ID to these online companies (that do ID verification) and if that company does collect them (i.e not deleting them after they confirmed you're adult) and gets hacked, those images are now under some hacker and those images will duplicate into thousands in seconds (sharing with their friends > they download that image of your ID > They Repost it to their friend, Repeat), and a few hours later, they probably gonna sell them as counterfeit ID. We're looking at a huge increase in the Black Market in history (and worst case: eventually, some teens are gonna find their way to grab those counterfeit IDs so they can use it to bypass verification. It is very Unlikely but you never know)

I do support the idea that people under 18 shouldn't have access to adult content nor should they see some fuck up content (I witness goatse on DeviantArt back in 2017, never been the same since) but people will always find a loophole around this. It is not a bulletproof plan (at same time however, I don't think there is other way).

Yeah unfortunately someone has sent me Pichu feet fetish and tried to justify Pichu NSFW because its a Pokemon.

Okay I shouldn't be laughing at this like I am, but after Pokemon Mystery Lovers being a key point for collaborative satire I can't help it.

At 1/29/25 06:37 PM, AKA-38CAUTION wrote:

At 1/29/25 05:21 PM, TomFulp wrote:

At 1/29/25 05:11 PM, SparkNitro wrote:Sir Fulp, If the law required legitimate IDs, where would said information go?
Would it be used once and discarded or be kept in an database?

We would use a third party verification service and those services aren't supposed to retain any of the records in these cases. So NG would never see your ID (we just get a Yes or No from the service) and as long as the third party service isn't lying, the ID info wouldn't be retained.

>> as long as the third party service isn't lying

That is the problem, what service can we trust to handle the picture of our ID (where our personal information, such as full name, Street address, State, and Birthday are visible)? Because if they're actually collecting them for data purposes (and advertisement/data broker, let's get fucking real) and they get data breached, we're fucked.

It is not the same as just handing over your ID to a real person, you hand over your digital photo of your ID to these online companies (that do ID verification) and if that company does collect them (i.e not deleting them after they confirmed you're adult) and gets hacked, those images are now under some hacker and those images will duplicate into thousands in seconds (sharing with their friends > they download that image of your ID > They Repost it to their friend, Repeat), and a few hours later, they probably gonna sell them as counterfeit ID. We're looking at a huge increase in the Black Market in history (and worst case: eventually, some teens are gonna find their way to grab those counterfeit IDs so they can use it to bypass verification. It is very Unlikely but you never know)

I do support the idea that people under 18 shouldn't have access to adult content nor should they see some fuck up content (I witness goatse on DeviantArt back in 2017, never been the same since) but people will always find a loophole around this. It is not a bulletproof plan (at same time however, I don't think there is other way).