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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 14:42:17

At 1/29/25 02:40 PM, MinimanD wrote:At least it'll only affect the sign-up age and not the ability to view the site... still, It'll be a different place without younger artists in the community. We'll just have to do the best we can to enjoy what's here while it lasts!

Can't wait for Once Upon a Time on the Internet

The good news is that younger artists that have been registered before the change will still be able to upload art to newgrounds (I think)

Currently working on a cartoon this summer. Stay tuned I guess. Heh.

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 14:45:02

At 1/29/25 02:42 PM, Anamonator wrote:
At 1/29/25 02:40 PM, MinimanD wrote:At least it'll only affect the sign-up age and not the ability to view the site... still, It'll be a different place without younger artists in the community. We'll just have to do the best we can to enjoy what's here while it lasts!

Can't wait for Once Upon a Time on the Internet

The good news is that younger artists that have been registered before the change will still be able to upload art to newgrounds (I think)

I sure hope that's what'll happen!

What is a man!

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 14:45:40

At 1/29/25 02:45 PM, MinimanD wrote:
At 1/29/25 02:42 PM, Anamonator wrote:
At 1/29/25 02:40 PM, MinimanD wrote:At least it'll only affect the sign-up age and not the ability to view the site... still, It'll be a different place without younger artists in the community. We'll just have to do the best we can to enjoy what's here while it lasts!

Can't wait for Once Upon a Time on the Internet

The good news is that younger artists that have been registered before the change will still be able to upload art to newgrounds (I think)

I sure hope that's what'll happen!

me too

Currently working on a cartoon this summer. Stay tuned I guess. Heh.

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 14:54:34

At 1/29/25 02:38 PM, Anamonator wrote:
At 1/29/25 02:12 PM, BoiledMilkz wrote:People who joined Newgrounds before the age limit increase better have a Veterans Badge.

Fr! @TomFulp are you willing to do that?

No plans for anything like that.

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 14:54:45

At 1/29/25 11:20 AM, Czyszy wrote:
At 1/29/25 11:18 AM, ImmyShack wrote:
At 1/29/25 10:45 AM, Czyszy wrote:I started using NG when I was 15

started using NG since I was 15 too
damn, you on NG since 2011???

Yes. I know, I'm old.

How tough am I? I used to play runescape in 2006.

And lied about my age when I was actually 13.

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 14:57:16

At 1/29/25 02:30 PM, liljim wrote:
At 1/29/25 11:43 AM, RadianceMutt wrote:welp, time to abandon this account in july, it's been a ride folks. ✌️

This will not just apply to Newgrounds. Any website you use where you may come across adult material of any sort will require these checks of you. At least, if they adhere to the regulations that Ofcom are setting out.

We'll know more about what will be involved in the forthcoming months.

For anyone wondering, the penalty for websites that aren't in compliance will be 10% of revenue or $18 million, whichever amount is larger. So basically $18 million in our case.

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 14:58:19 (edited 2025-01-29 14:58:51)

At 1/29/25 02:57 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 1/29/25 02:30 PM, liljim wrote:
At 1/29/25 11:43 AM, RadianceMutt wrote:welp, time to abandon this account in july, it's been a ride folks. ✌️

This will not just apply to Newgrounds. Any website you use where you may come across adult material of any sort will require these checks of you. At least, if they adhere to the regulations that Ofcom are setting out.

We'll know more about what will be involved in the forthcoming months.

For anyone wondering, the penalty for websites that aren't in compliance will be 10% of revenue or $18 million, whichever amount is larger. So basically $18 million in our case.

How in the name of balls is this legal? What legal power does a foreign government (or across state lines if in the united state) have over an international access website?

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 15:00:59

At 1/29/25 02:54 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 1/29/25 02:38 PM, Anamonator wrote:
At 1/29/25 02:12 PM, BoiledMilkz wrote:People who joined Newgrounds before the age limit increase better have a Veterans Badge.

Fr! @TomFulp are you willing to do that?

No plans for anything like that.

awwwww :(

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 15:04:00

At 1/29/25 12:23 PM, JizzyJazz wrote:is NG safe from the deluge of states locking adult content behind ID verification? i have a feeling some users may have to invest in VPN's soon if they want to keep browsing as normal

A lot of the state laws art targeting sites that are more than 1/3rd adult content, so NG isn't a target (yet) but we may have to implement ID checks in the future. Would really prefer a better age validation option to be available before we rush into anything like that.

This would also be a good reason to crack down on low-effort / promo spam adult content, to be sure we stay under 1/3rd.

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 15:04:29

At 1/29/25 02:57 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 1/29/25 02:30 PM, liljim wrote:
At 1/29/25 11:43 AM, RadianceMutt wrote:welp, time to abandon this account in july, it's been a ride folks. ✌️

This will not just apply to Newgrounds. Any website you use where you may come across adult material of any sort will require these checks of you. At least, if they adhere to the regulations that Ofcom are setting out.

We'll know more about what will be involved in the forthcoming months.

For anyone wondering, the penalty for websites that aren't in compliance will be 10% of revenue or $18 million, whichever amount is larger. So basically $18 million in our case.

Basically what you mean is that if you don't this then Newgrounds is cooked?

Currently working on a cartoon this summer. Stay tuned I guess. Heh.

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 15:06:17

At 1/29/25 10:00 AM, TomFulp wrote:This month we raised the minimum sign-up age to 14 and we intend to gradually raise it this year until we settle on 16 as the minimum age.

This is a great change in my opinion. I don't think people realize just how young and immature a 13 year old often is. I think 16 is a reasonable minimum age for Newgrounds (just based on how I remember myself at 16). Hopefully this will help prevent a lot of stolen and AI tracks from being uploaded to the AP, as I've noticed that users who upload AI and stolen material tend to skew younger.

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 15:08:54

At 1/29/25 11:23 AM, Slopgok wrote:
At 1/29/25 10:00 AM, TomFulp wrote:Reasons for this are people abusing the system with shock photos

i read this as "stock photos" first, i was confused until i read the replies and re-read it.

To be fair we get legal actions against us over stock photos more than shock photos but at least the stock companies can't find those in a PM.

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 15:11:58

At 1/29/25 10:00 AM, TomFulp wrote:Flash Forward kicks off on February 1st! If you’d like to help with the prize pool, please use the donation option on our Supporter page and PM me a heads up that you donate towards Flash Forward.

In the meantime, here are some things that have been going on this month, along with more plans for this year.

This month we raised the minimum sign-up age to 14 and we intend to gradually raise it this year until we settle on 16 as the minimum age. This keeps us more compliant with legislation in places like Australia and Florida but also feels like a good fit for Newgrounds. Australia may also be requiring ID checks, we’ll have to wait and see what they settle on and what they offer on that front later this year.

I'm excited for the pixel day results!

The underage thing is a real bummer. For the past I dunno 20+ years adults have systematically reduced spaces where kids and teens can hang out. Outdoor spaces are heavily monitored and places like malls and parks are closing or kicking teens out just for being there unsupervised. Now they've set their sights on the Internet. Outside of rigidly structured schools or sports there really isn't anywhere kids can just be kids.

As far as nasty PMs you might edit the opening post to remind folks there's a flagging option so they can alert staff to harassing PMs or creepy behavior! I'm surprised by people saying they got a mean PM and didn't know how to flag it

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 15:12:02

I created a account when I was 12 in 2019, BUT I didn't do anything aside from playing games, watch movies, listen to audio, looking at art and have favorites until 15 in early 2023 when I just posted art, and became more interactive on 16 later that same year.

Anyway, good thing I'm 17 now, and will be 18 later that year when this change happens.

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 15:12:43

At 1/29/25 12:51 PM, RadianceMutt wrote:
At 1/29/25 12:50 PM, Anamonator wrote:
At 1/29/25 12:41 PM, RadianceMutt wrote:
At 1/29/25 11:43 AM, RadianceMutt wrote:
At 1/29/25 10:00 AM, TomFulp wrote:If you live in the UK there is more excitement on the way. Starting in July, we will be required to verify your age in order to toggle the Adult filter. There is currently no way we can do this without charging you money and we’re not keen to do that via Paypal or Stripe. Ideally a better option will arrive in the months ahead, such as a UK digital ID that we can check for free.

welp, time to abandon this account in july, it's been a ride folks. ✌️
to those who would like to know where else i'm at, it's all listed on my profile, i'm active the most on fur affinity. so everything will be posted on those sites listed instead when this takes effect, this news has really pissed me off.

Don't get your hopes too high about those other websites. They will probably enforce the same rules one day
then i'll probably quit then, i'm not giving my government my info just to see NSFW nor do I agree with it.

i'm afraid all those safety laws will accomplish is making people who want to view legal porn resorting to illegal sites just for the sake of not having to dox themselves just to see a drawing of full nudity...

I guess it's easier than forcing parents to actually take proper care of their children...

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 15:13:49

At 1/29/25 03:08 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 1/29/25 11:23 AM, Slopgok wrote:
At 1/29/25 10:00 AM, TomFulp wrote:Reasons for this are people abusing the system with shock photos

i read this as "stock photos" first, i was confused until i read the replies and re-read it.

To be fair we get legal actions against us over stock photos more than shock photos but at least the stock companies can't find those in a PM.

Its amazing how nobody knew about the legal stuff until you said something lol. How many times has Newgrounds gotten sued?

Currently working on a cartoon this summer. Stay tuned I guess. Heh.

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 15:13:58

At 1/29/25 11:11 AM, detergent1 wrote:I guess that while minimum age to join will be 16, the E,T,M filters will remain available to non-users, right?

The filters will still be available to unregistered users, although at some point we might require registration and an age of 17 to toggle M. In the meantime, more stuff has been moving from M to A to try and avoid that, in particular because I don't like the idea of things like Salad Fingers and Madness being hidden by default.

This could be solved by a new method of filtering content, something which has been getting talked about some in the Supporter forum. It's a big overhaul though and would introduce its own headaches.

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 15:14:47

At 1/29/25 02:57 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 1/29/25 02:30 PM, liljim wrote:
At 1/29/25 11:43 AM, RadianceMutt wrote:welp, time to abandon this account in july, it's been a ride folks. ✌️

This will not just apply to Newgrounds. Any website you use where you may come across adult material of any sort will require these checks of you. At least, if they adhere to the regulations that Ofcom are setting out.

We'll know more about what will be involved in the forthcoming months.

For anyone wondering, the penalty for websites that aren't in compliance will be 10% of revenue or $18 million, whichever amount is larger. So basically $18 million in our case.

Yeowch, that's brutal.

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 15:20:25

At 1/29/25 03:13 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 1/29/25 11:11 AM, detergent1 wrote:I guess that while minimum age to join will be 16, the E,T,M filters will remain available to non-users, right?

The filters will still be available to unregistered users, although at some point we might require registration and an age of 17 to toggle M. In the meantime, more stuff has been moving from M to A to try and avoid that, in particular because I don't like the idea of things like Salad Fingers and Madness being hidden by default.

This could be solved by a new method of filtering content, something which has been getting talked about some in the Supporter forum. It's a big overhaul though and would introduce its own headaches.

Will the BBS play a factor in the decision that newgrounds has more than 1/3rd content is porn? Like almost every @DrunkGecko thread is literal porn for example. Does that mean she and others like @DamnedByFate can't make dick jokes anymore?

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 15:25:36

does anyone really indicate their real age in Internet? and also Where is "Everything by Everyone " ???

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 15:31:29

I was wondering how NG would handle the age verification thing. I'm working on my own website to just host my art and other various projects and just figured I'd use a geoblocker or something for the states that pass that law, I'd hate to get arrested for drawing cartoon tits.

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 15:32:39

At 1/29/25 03:13 PM, Anamonator wrote:Its amazing how nobody knew about the legal stuff until you said something lol. How many times has Newgrounds gotten sued?

NG has never actually had to go to court over anything, we just get harassed occasionally. There were a few occasions where we had to pay out to photo licensing agencies but in most cases we're protected by the DMCA. The issue with people using unlicensed music is always a menace that hangs over us but I think we prove we make a reasonable effort to not allow that.

There was one time a patent troll named us in a lawsuit where they were suing several websites that combined audio with advertising, however we submitted prior art that showed we had ads alongside audio a year before their patent and a judge later threw out the case.

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 15:32:48

At 1/29/25 03:31 PM, MELONCONCARNE wrote:I was wondering how NG would handle the age verification thing. I'm working on my own website to just host my art and other various projects and just figured I'd use a geoblocker or something for the states that pass that law, I'd hate to get arrested for drawing cartoon tits.

It's not you they're after. They're after the server owners and those hosting said servers. Unless you're drawing loli, you probably aren't a target.

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 15:32:48

At 1/29/25 03:13 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 1/29/25 11:11 AM, detergent1 wrote:I guess that while minimum age to join will be 16, the E,T,M filters will remain available to non-users, right?

The filters will still be available to unregistered users, although at some point we might require registration and an age of 17 to toggle M. In the meantime, more stuff has been moving from M to A to try and avoid that, in particular because I don't like the idea of things like Salad Fingers and Madness being hidden by default.

This could be solved by a new method of filtering content, something which has been getting talked about some in the Supporter forum. It's a big overhaul though and would introduce its own headaches.

Couldn't the BBS be under the same restrictions that the NG Chat has if worst comes to worst and it remains an exclusive 18+ feature?

I get this might not be the ideal or anything like that but honestly, speaking from experience I'd rather not have to put up with teenagers who think they know a thing or two about the world when all they really know is whatever happens in their parents basement and whatever dumb drama they deal with in school.

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 15:35:29

At 1/29/25 03:11 PM, Malachy wrote:As far as nasty PMs you might edit the opening post to remind folks there's a flagging option so they can alert staff to harassing PMs or creepy behavior! I'm surprised by people saying they got a mean PM and didn't know how to flag it

Added a note about that now!

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 15:37:00

At 1/29/25 03:04 PM, Anamonator wrote:
At 1/29/25 02:57 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 1/29/25 02:30 PM, liljim wrote:
At 1/29/25 11:43 AM, RadianceMutt wrote:welp, time to abandon this account in july, it's been a ride folks. ✌️

This will not just apply to Newgrounds. Any website you use where you may come across adult material of any sort will require these checks of you. At least, if they adhere to the regulations that Ofcom are setting out.

We'll know more about what will be involved in the forthcoming months.

For anyone wondering, the penalty for websites that aren't in compliance will be 10% of revenue or $18 million, whichever amount is larger. So basically $18 million in our case.

Basically what you mean is that if you don't this then Newgrounds is cooked?

Yup!

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 15:45:05

At 1/29/25 12:47 PM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:
At 1/29/25 12:41 PM, RadianceMutt wrote:
At 1/29/25 11:43 AM, RadianceMutt wrote:
At 1/29/25 10:00 AM, TomFulp wrote:If you live in the UK there is more excitement on the way. Starting in July, we will be required to verify your age in order to toggle the Adult filter. There is currently no way we can do this without charging you money and we’re not keen to do that via Paypal or Stripe. Ideally a better option will arrive in the months ahead, such as a UK digital ID that we can check for free.

welp, time to abandon this account in july, it's been a ride folks. ✌️
to those who would like to know where else i'm at, it's all listed on my profile, i'm active the most on fur affinity. so everything will be posted on those sites listed instead when this takes effect, this news has really pissed me off.

Oh no, the furry porn artist with 23 followers and mirrors everything with PostyBirb, won't be able to post here due to UK regulations, not even the SFW stuff.

You do know FurAffinity has to follow those exact same rules right?

I'd be careful about throwing rocks from your glass house of a gallery, champ.

It starts with porn because losers like you think that because you don't make it you're safe. Then the bar lowers to SFW pinups or merely "suggestive" work because children could see it, and have naughty thoughts. Then comes anything LGBT because they're "influencing children". After that comes "encouraging violence" because while cops will piss their pants standing outside of a school instead of confronting a gunman, they'll happily arrest somebody for making a Doom wad.

Being a bootlicking little toady isn't going to protect you because eventually you run out of people to throw under the bus.

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 15:46:14 (edited 2025-01-29 15:46:51)

At 1/29/25 10:00 AM, TomFulp wrote:This month we raised the minimum sign-up age to 14 and we intend to gradually raise it this year until we settle on 16 as the minimum age. This keeps us more compliant with legislation in places like Australia and Florida but also feels like a good fit for Newgrounds. Australia may also be requiring ID checks, we’ll have to wait and see what they settle on and what they offer on that front later this year.

Existing accounts will be grandfathered, meaning we won’t be deleting accounts that joined before the change. If you are an artist who was hoping to participate on NG but are too young, please keep honing your craft, we look forward to seeing you here some day!

This is just for creating accounts. You can still watch stuff without an account right?

We’ve also changed the PM system, so that sending images via PM is now a Supporter feature. Reasons for this are people abusing the system with shock photos, the potential for creepy stuff happening and to better comply with the UK Online Safety Act.

I think I remember talking about a similar thing a couple of months ago. Still based.

If you live in the UK there is more excitement on the way. Starting in July, we will be required to verify your age in order to toggle the Adult filter. There is currently no way we can do this without charging you money and we’re not keen to do that via Paypal or Stripe. Ideally a better option will arrive in the months ahead, such as a UK digital ID that we can check for free.

As an already-paying Supporter, living in Australia (ie. one of the affected countries), I might be biased, but here's my take:

It's porn. Who cares if you put it behind a paywall? If anything, that's more $$ for Newgrounds. And it's less intrusive than digital ID.

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 15:48:20

At 1/29/25 10:42 AM, TomFulp wrote:
At 1/29/25 10:27 AM, Myceli0m wrote:
At 1/29/25 10:26 AM, TomFulp wrote:
At 1/29/25 10:23 AM, Myceli0m wrote:
We’ve also changed the PM system, so that sending images via PM is now a Supporter feature. Reasons for this are people abusing the system with shock photos, the potential for creepy stuff happening and to better comply with the UK Online Safety Act.

What the hell are people sending to eachother in PM's?

Yup, people sometimes send gore pics to harass people.

... Jesus, i didnt know some people were THAT edgy.

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Response to Online Safety Updates 2025-01-29 15:52:25

At 1/29/25 03:32 PM, DioShiba wrote:
At 1/29/25 03:13 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 1/29/25 11:11 AM, detergent1 wrote:I guess that while minimum age to join will be 16, the E,T,M filters will remain available to non-users, right?

The filters will still be available to unregistered users, although at some point we might require registration and an age of 17 to toggle M. In the meantime, more stuff has been moving from M to A to try and avoid that, in particular because I don't like the idea of things like Salad Fingers and Madness being hidden by default.

This could be solved by a new method of filtering content, something which has been getting talked about some in the Supporter forum. It's a big overhaul though and would introduce its own headaches.

Couldn't the BBS be under the same restrictions that the NG Chat has if worst comes to worst and it remains an exclusive 18+ feature?

I get this might not be the ideal or anything like that but honestly, speaking from experience I'd rather not have to put up with teenagers who think they know a thing or two about the world when all they really know is whatever happens in their parents basement and whatever dumb drama they deal with in school.

I think the bbs shouldn’t be 18 + only because we already have a rating system on the BBs and a great moderation team so in my opinion that probably isn’t necessary. But it’s up to @TomFulp

Currently working on a cartoon this summer. Stay tuned I guess. Heh.

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