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Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 17:32:48


So far, I'm not really the biggest fan of the implementation of Takeover Tuesday. Might need to warm myself up to it a little more.


My main gripes with it are that it takes-up too much space, and that it sometimes feels like P-bot 2.0 with it only highlighting the obvious popular stuff. Though, I might need to check back on that last one later today because it's probably not as bad as it looks at first glance. Especially now that the "Hot item" got removed from the top of the list


Really, the biggest suggestion I have is to put the items on a grid instead of a list so that it takes-up a lot less space, and put the "show all" button a lot closer to the top instead of over 50% of the entire web-page. Like, maybe 25% instead?


Overall, I like the idea because it gives me another reason to participate in the website, see some things I may have quickly glossed over in the past, and discover some never-before seen things. I just don't like how obnoxiously big it all is.


Those were just my first impressions of the feature, but with a few fixes and a bit more time it'll probably be my favourite feature.


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Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 17:33:14


At 10/8/24 05:29 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 10/8/24 05:26 PM, DeadSM wrote:OMG it felt wrong seeing this and dropping a link for my own work. I mean it's this even ok? Also I saw tits on the suggested features. Are we getting adult frontpages? This is all so new and exciting.

People can feature A-rated material since the filters are applied. Would like people to avoid featuring mis-rated material though.


Freaking sweet. NG really is the best place to share stuff. A feature like this is super cool for discovery. That's the one thing I think NG lacks compared to other places. Thanks for being so user friendly with your monetization!

Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 17:33:17


At 10/8/24 12:03 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 10/8/24 12:00 PM, Tango wrote:
At 10/8/24 11:56 AM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:Real question: Could this system be susceptible to brigades (ie. a coordinated attempt to suggest a single movie to keep it on the top of the list, or bury a different movie, depending on the motive, as well as mass-react the targeted movie(s))?

I haven't seen any brigading yet, but people having the ability to use their one bump for their favorite thing is a feature not a bug, isn't it?

Yup, if a bunch of people want to coordinate to keep something at the top all day, that's fine! There will be plenty of other things directly below it.

This post got me concerned it will return to zero bombing in reverse.


"Premature optimization is the root of all evil"

~Donald Knuth

Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 17:36:37


At 10/8/24 05:20 PM, Nabella wrote:
At 10/8/24 12:03 PM, TheBestBroster wrote:
At 10/8/24 10:51 AM, TomFulp wrote:
At 10/8/24 10:51 AM, Nabella wrote:WHAT.

THIS IS ALMOST LIKE HAVING THE KEYS TO THE KINGDOM.

DUDE CAN I BE A SCUMBAG AND NOMINATE MY OWN STUFF?

Sure!

incredible

amazing


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Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 17:37:00


Damn, enetring the cite today was a huge ass jumpscare lmao

This sounds hella neat actually!


Cool, wild and Groovy beat.

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Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 17:39:08


At 10/8/24 05:36 PM, BlueMonday1984 wrote:
At 10/8/24 05:20 PM, Nabella wrote:
At 10/8/24 12:03 PM, TheBestBroster wrote:
At 10/8/24 10:51 AM, TomFulp wrote:
At 10/8/24 10:51 AM, Nabella wrote:WHAT.

THIS IS ALMOST LIKE HAVING THE KEYS TO THE KINGDOM.

DUDE CAN I BE A SCUMBAG AND NOMINATE MY OWN STUFF?

Sure!

incredible

amazing

tubular

Neato!


"Premature optimization is the root of all evil"

~Donald Knuth

Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 17:39:42


A really cool concept - already discovered a few hidden gem artworks and pieces in the mix, which is a great way to further support users on the site :D


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Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 17:40:56


At 10/8/24 05:37 PM, BlueKnightSkeleton wrote:Damn, enetring the cite today was a huge ass jumpscare lmao

Tell me about it - I was anticipating a simple Supporter-driven ad system, not this mass-frontpaging of Supporters' favourites!


This sounds hella neat actually!

Tell me about it - I've already seen some obscure stuff get some much-deserved time in the spotlight, and witched an instant classic or two resurface (Punch Punch Forever, I'm looking at you).

Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 17:46:05


I think this is a really good feature, and a great way to get supporters more involved and hopefully boost the total number of supporters for the site. However, there are a couple minor elements of it that I'm not fond of.


First of all, as others have pointed out, it takes up too much space. I want to be able to quickly access what my friends have posted and the features for the day, and the massive wall that is Takeover Tuesday prevents me from doing that efficiently. I hope that a shrinking button is added, so that it shrinks to become similar in size to any of the other featured sections (or maybe a tad larger if necessary).


At 10/8/24 10:55 AM, TomFulp wrote:
At 10/8/24 10:54 AM, Yeset wrote:I saw a few people featuring their own work , is that okey? Its a genuine question

Yup, that's fine!


In my opinion, I do not think self promotion should be allowed on the grounds that it is not fair for users who do not have the ability to become a supporter. It's essentially creating a frontpage ad for your own work. While there are already multiple threads to self promote your work, but the difference is that Takeover Tuesday is widely viewable by everyone, but only those who have paid can contribute (and therefore self-promote). This feels like very "pay to win", and is unfair to any user who cannot afford a supporter upgrade. Before this, there was no major limitations by staying a non-supporter as an artist, while now it seems you can gain a legitimate advantage as a creator by paying for exposure. While I love the idea of Takeover Tuesday, I do not think self promotion should be allowed within it.


I also think that self promotion defeats the purpose of becoming a supporter, as people should be supporting Newgrounds and it's community by recommending lesser known works of art, games, animation, and music for others to see. (This last part is more about how I think people should act as role models and less so about unfair competition, but I thought I should mention it anyway.)


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Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 17:50:08


thx Tom uwu 🍑🍆🥵 ❤️

Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 17:54:07


I did´nt think it before but actually, self-promoting urself in this section it brokes the portals meta and becames pay-to-win. Not cool, I didnt choose to be a broke ass


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Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 17:54:51


Pretty damn cool feature


idk how i feel about being able to self promo, but at the same time you are paying monthly to the website so go off I guess

Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 18:00:43 (edited 2024-10-08 18:03:57)


Now that is a good feature, Mr. Tom Fulp and Newgrounds Staff can suprise everyone, besides, @PsychoGoldfish did good work there!


PLJerry - Animator/Artist/Voice Actor/TF2 Veteran

Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 18:02:13


When Tom teased a Tuesday surprise I was hoping for a blowjob, but this is better than two blowjobs!!


Fuck you give me money!

(thanks for the years of Lulu/Payne r34 my loyal dealers)

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Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 18:06:28


Honestly, this idea is legitimately pretty cool. Not only it fits with Newgrounds being this place for new talents to get their name out there, but I already found a ton of cool stuff and insanely talented artists that went under my nose, in fact, I think this works far better as a frontpage suggestion than the actual BBS FP suggestion thread.


However, the way this is implemented as of now feels a little too intrusive

My main problem being the fact that my "Latest From Your Friends & Favorites"/Follow List is at the very bottom, and I have to scroll quite a bit to get there, when I believe that my follow list should always be at the top, or at least the 2nd thing I see after the frontpage/events banner

At times I just don't feel like seeing new stuff, and just want to stick to my followers list, and I think that making this simple change, or simply giving the user an option to minimize the tab would already help a lot to sell this new feature.


The other suggestion I have, is that instead of having a list for the "Show", you could just have buttons instead, but that's more of a suggestion than a necessity.


However, as much as I don't like how things are implemented right now, I sincerely love this idea, and I'm glad that this place is being run under people that genuinely care over their community and website, and I could not be more grateful for all the effort that goes under keeping Newgrounds running, specially when it comes to introducing new people to the community.


I'm excited to see what new stuff you guys are working on next, best of luck to everyone.


There's always a tomorrow, I guess.

Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 18:15:59


Since I don't know how to edit posts I figure I'll bump my ramblings a bit -


Just got on NG from my phone for the first time today - the takeover section actually looks really good in mobile view. I try to use desktop mode on NG from my phone most of the time but this takeover section looks really great and is easy to navigate (it's long, but that's the point too!)


why hello there

Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 18:17:50 (edited 2024-10-08 18:20:12)


At 10/8/24 05:46 PM, Questtrek wrote:I think this is a really good feature, and a great way to get supporters more involved and hopefully boost the total number of supporters for the site. However, there are a couple minor elements of it that I'm not fond of.

First of all, as others have pointed out, it takes up too much space. I want to be able to quickly access what my friends have posted and the features for the day, and the massive wall that is Takeover Tuesday prevents me from doing that efficiently. I hope that a shrinking button is added, so that it shrinks to become similar in size to any of the other featured sections (or maybe a tad larger if necessary).
At 10/8/24 10:55 AM, TomFulp wrote:
At 10/8/24 10:54 AM, Yeset wrote:I saw a few people featuring their own work , is that okey? Its a genuine question

Yup, that's fine!


In my opinion, I do not think self promotion should be allowed on the grounds that it is not fair for users who do not have the ability to become a supporter. It's essentially creating a frontpage ad for your own work. While there are already multiple threads to self promote your work, but the difference is that Takeover Tuesday is widely viewable by everyone, but only those who have paid can contribute (and therefore self-promote). This feels like very "pay to win", and is unfair to any user who cannot afford a supporter upgrade. Before this, there was no major limitations by staying a non-supporter as an artist, while now it seems you can gain a legitimate advantage as a creator by paying for exposure. While I love the idea of Takeover Tuesday, I do not think self promotion should be allowed within it.

I also think that self promotion defeats the purpose of becoming a supporter, as people should be supporting Newgrounds and it's community by recommending lesser known works of art, games, animation, and music for others to see. (This last part is more about how I think people should act as role models and less so about unfair competition, but I thought I should mention it anyway.)


you're right, in fact I thought it was only to promote others and not themselves, even if I found out in advance I wouldn't have promoted myself anyway, but this thing of paying to promote yourself isn't that great in fact... the "takeover tuesday" could be very modifiable for example having 1 or 2 tokens, if you promote another person you spend 1 and it could be modified so that you can select that this person must reciprocate by spending his token for you, for example, if I want to promote Napt but I want him to reciprocate, 1) first I put his post 2) I click on a verification box next to "I want you to reciprocate" and put my post (or someone else's post) on the second text bar that will appear 3) I click on send ... napt will receive a notification to see the post I selected for him and my post with which I want him to spend 1 token, if he accepts his post placed by me and my post placed by him will appear on the front page at the same time.

Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 18:18:08 (edited 2024-10-08 18:28:59)


At 10/8/24 05:31 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 10/8/24 05:26 PM, Dungeonation wrote:I notice Takeover Tuesday was added to the Supporter Perks page of the Wiki but not on the Supporter purchasing page :O

We might have the Wiki page populate the Supporter purchasing page, at which point I can make edits via the wiki, which would be handy. Do you think the stuff on the Wiki page would look good on the Supporter purchase page, or do you think it's sensory overload?


I always thought the Wiki page was more readable than the way it’s listed on the Supporter page!


(GIF by @Memorizor)

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Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 18:18:48


At 10/8/24 06:15 PM, applessmillion wrote:Since I don't know how to edit posts I figure I'll bump my ramblings a bit -

Just got on NG from my phone for the first time today - the takeover section actually looks really good in mobile view. I try to use desktop mode on NG from my phone most of the time but this takeover section looks really great and is easy to navigate (it's long, but that's the point too!)


Josh is working on a length toggle right now, so people can adjust the default amount and it will save the value.


Working on Nightmare Cops!

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Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 18:28:55


i think this is the best perk to add for supports, also means less recognized items can be brought to the spotlight once again

Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 18:32:29


Epic feature! XD Really elevates the "Everything, by everyone!" concept :3

Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 18:34:33 (edited 2024-10-08 18:35:02)


lol, okay all the users calling this new feed clunky have a point. I'm looking at this on a desktop computer now and it is huge compared to how compact everything else is on the Frontpage.


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Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 18:48:24 (edited 2024-10-08 18:59:36)


At 10/8/24 05:46 PM, Questtrek wrote:I also think that self promotion defeats the purpose of becoming a supporter, as people should be supporting Newgrounds and it's community by recommending lesser known works of art, games, animation, and music for others to see. (This last part is more about how I think people should act as role models and less so about unfair competition, but I thought I should mention it anyway.)


Newgrounds appears to be the only website giving away a (decent) free hosting service for all types of creative media without selling out its users' data or infesting the site with malicious ad campaigns, unnecessary javascript bloat or weird tracking domain connections. Just thinking about it for more than a second I would say it's incredible that people wouldn't want to financially support the site for that fact alone. Almost (or rather: certainly) taking it for granted.


Honestly if you have to pay to get your work seen it's probably not worth anybody's time in the first place, and taking this cynicism up a notch I could see this "cheap self promo" thing attracting the kind of people that don't really give a shit about this site, that would only come to promote their business and unceremoniously leave with no further intent of engaging with the site or its community in any kind of positive or constructive way. Although if it does prove to gather enough money to help keep the site afloat I don't think I'd care so much about it, I think. I'd like to hope people will be able to naturally maintain some integrity in that regard if the self promo feature is here to stay.


BTW as p.s: I would totally be throwing some coins at the site if I weren't struggling to pay internet bills. Regardless of whatever perks come with it. Seeing the rest of the mainstream web taking the opposite direction, gaslighting people to think it's a good thing makes me appreciate this site a lot more, even if it's not without its flaws, they're easily overlooked in comparison.

Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 18:48:55


At 10/8/24 05:39 PM, xeiavica wrote:
: At 10/8/24 05:36 PM, BlueMonday1984 wrote:
: : At 10/8/24 05:20 PM, Nabella wrote:
: : : At 10/8/24 12:03 PM, TheBestBroster wrote:
: : : : At 10/8/24 10:51 AM, TomFulp wrote:
: : : : : At 10/8/24 10:51 AM, Nabella wrote:
: : : : : : WHAT.
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: : : : : : THIS IS ALMOST LIKE HAVING THE KEYS TO THE KINGDOM.
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: : : : : : DUDE CAN I BE A SCUMBAG AND NOMINATE MY OWN STUFF?
: : : : :
: : : : : Sure!
: : : :
: : : : incredible
: : :
: : : amazing
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: : tubular
: Neato!


Astonishing!


Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 18:53:25


At 10/8/24 06:18 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 10/8/24 06:15 PM, applessmillion wrote:Since I don't know how to edit posts I figure I'll bump my ramblings a bit -

Just got on NG from my phone for the first time today - the takeover section actually looks really good in mobile view. I try to use desktop mode on NG from my phone most of the time but this takeover section looks really great and is easy to navigate (it's long, but that's the point too!)

Josh is working on a length toggle right now, so people can adjust the default amount and it will save the value.


Not everyone can handle as much length as me.... oh wait, you meant something else... yeah that's done


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Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 19:00:46


At 10/8/24 10:41 AM, TomFulp wrote:Today is our first ever Takeover Tuesday!

Today and every Tuesday for the foreseeable future, each Supporter has access to feature one item on the front page.


Man, I wish I had money for Newgrounds.

Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 19:04:28


I'm loving this idea!

Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 19:10:30


very good idea!


GO PLAY BIRD ON BIRD!!

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Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 19:15:55


The length selector is exactly what I needed! <3


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Response to Takeover Tuesday! 2024-10-08 19:19:19


At 10/8/24 06:53 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote:
Not everyone can handle as much length as me.... oh wait, you meant something else... yeah that's done


Thank you so much! I wasn't expecting it to be done that quickly. Good job! :)


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