At 12/6/24 10:52 AM, R3cr0vi2430 wrote:I have done my appeal and I have been waiting months for my account to be able to upload audio what do I do?
It had been a few weeks, not months, and it was closed because as you admitted: it didn't belong to you.
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At 12/7/24 12:08 PM, R3cr0vi2430 wrote:Well I can't still upload audio!
That's correct. Newgrounds is for original work, and since you admittedly uploaded something which didn't belong to you: you are no longer allowed to upload audio.
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I was making an animation and I wanted to use some music for the intro. So I went on this website that had non-copyrighted audio. I wanted to make sure it wasn't copyrighted so I uploaded it into the audio and it said it was copyrighted, so that's how it happened.
Do not upload audio that you did not create and have full rights to.
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At 12/8/24 07:15 AM, R3cr0vi2430 wrote:I was making an animation and I wanted to use some music for the intro. So I went on this website that had non-copyrighted audio. I wanted to make sure it wasn't copyrighted so I uploaded it into the audio and it said it was copyrighted, so that's how it happened.
but you didn't make it right? so you can't upload it. noncopyrighted music isn't an exception to the "don't upload things you didnt make" rule
At 12/9/24 10:50 AM, R3cr0vi2430 wrote:You weren't listening.
And neither are you apparently. I understand WHY you did it, but there are still consequences to your decision.
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At 12/9/24 10:50 AM, R3cr0vi2430 wrote:You weren't listening.
no? how hard is "don't upload music you yourself didn't make" to understand. this isn't youtube, you know.
Hi, I was banned for trying to upload a song a while ago but the appeal is no longer in my inbox. All I remember is I uploaded it as a joke and it had a part of a different song in it. I had hardly used newgrounds and i skimmed over the guidelines so I figured if there was something wrong it would give me a warning and remove the audio kinda like youtube, but it resulted in a ban. (since then I've read all the audio guidelines)
If this appeal doesn't work, is there a way to find out how long the ban is?
At 12/10/24 04:45 PM, iobeast wrote:Hi, I was banned for trying to upload a song a while ago but the appeal is no longer in my inbox. All I remember is I uploaded it as a joke and it had a part of a different song in it. I had hardly used newgrounds and i skimmed over the guidelines so I figured if there was something wrong it would give me a warning and remove the audio kinda like youtube, but it resulted in a ban. (since then I've read all the audio guidelines)
If you uploaded a song you didn't have rights to (you didn't create) in whole or part, and it got caught in the content ID system, your appeal will be denied, and the ban is permanent.
Or at least it is until you become an actual music artist, admit your mistake, and nicely ask to be unbanned. Moderators or staff will want to examine your portfolio when this happens.
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At 12/11/24 02:16 AM, ADR3-N wrote:At 12/10/24 04:45 PM, iobeast wrote:Hi, I was banned for trying to upload a song a while ago but the appeal is no longer in my inbox. All I remember is I uploaded it as a joke and it had a part of a different song in it. I had hardly used newgrounds and i skimmed over the guidelines so I figured if there was something wrong it would give me a warning and remove the audio kinda like youtube, but it resulted in a ban. (since then I've read all the audio guidelines)
If you uploaded a song you didn't have rights to (you didn't create) in whole or part, and it got caught in the content ID system, your appeal will be denied, and the ban is permanent.
Or at least it is until you become an actual music artist, admit your mistake, and nicely ask to be unbanned. Moderators or staff will want to examine your portfolio when this happens.
I admit that I didn't read the guidelines thoroughly so it was entirely deserved, and I would like to be unbanned. However, I don't currently make music or have a portfolio, I just wanted to get unbanned because I might want to make music in the future.
At 12/11/24 02:49 AM, iobeast wrote:At 12/11/24 02:16 AM, ADR3-N wrote:At 12/10/24 04:45 PM, iobeast wrote:Hi, I was banned for trying to upload a song a while ago but the appeal is no longer in my inbox. All I remember is I uploaded it as a joke and it had a part of a different song in it. I had hardly used newgrounds and i skimmed over the guidelines so I figured if there was something wrong it would give me a warning and remove the audio kinda like youtube, but it resulted in a ban. (since then I've read all the audio guidelines)
If you uploaded a song you didn't have rights to (you didn't create) in whole or part, and it got caught in the content ID system, your appeal will be denied, and the ban is permanent.
Or at least it is until you become an actual music artist, admit your mistake, and nicely ask to be unbanned. Moderators or staff will want to examine your portfolio when this happens.
I admit that I didn't read the guidelines thoroughly so it was entirely deserved, and I would like to be unbanned. However, I don't currently make music or have a portfolio, I just wanted to get unbanned because I might want to make music in the future.
When you DO make music AND follow the guidelines, like I said, contact a mod, staff, or return to this thread. I pretty much guarantee you'll be unbanned. :)
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At 12/24/24 11:01 PM, poopypeter wrote:Am i almost there
No. But holy shit is 10 years a long time for two offenses. Come back when you make your own music and we can discuss your ban.
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About two years ago, I was banned from posting audio on the Newgrounds Audio Portal. The reason was that a song I created used some royalty-free samples that someone else had also used. I understand the rules and appealed the ban back then, but my appeal was rejected.
Even now, two years later, my account still shows the following messages regarding the ban and appeal:
ERROR — You're not the owner of this appeal and so can't edit it, or the appeal has been closed.
ERROR — Sorry, you can't do that at this time - there's a hold on your account due to potential copyright infringement. Your audio has been matched to "Think About Whoop", by TheDragster552. Check your private messages for details of the appeal process.
I'd really appreciate it if a moderator would be able to unban me!
Thanks!
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Currently I am having issues uploading songs I've distributed through distrokid, all of the appeals I have made have been accepted however I'd like not to have to make so many appeals because I have over a hundred songs across several albums and compilations that I would like to bring over onto newgrounds. I'm still relatively new to this platform so if there is a sort of whitelist where I can upload songs I've distributed before without having to submit an appeal I would appreciate being added to it.
Here is an appeal I've made previously: https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/copyright/appeal/edit/127188
If necessary I can also provide evidence that I am the artist and that I am the one distributing the songs.
I just wanna ask a couple things, I am not submitting for an appeal, I have not submitted anything here in the first place due to basically every composition I have made violates the TOS, lol.
I understand that what I am making right now is seen as different and against this site's TOS, and I am not here to argue that (its plunderphonics for a reason), but I feel as though that is funny because I think my old SNES music isn't against the rules here, for me to post, but that too uses samples, they aren't really royalty-free, they are owned by companies like Roland etc. who do not allow you (in their legal guidelines) to sample their hardware (like Roland SC-55s) for use in SNES music, it has to be from the exact hardware and you must own it legally (or own a VST emu of it that is officially licensed by Roland, Korg, etc.) and I don't own either, and even then, legally-speaking I wouldn't be able to use those sounds in a sampler anyway, they have to come directly from the rompler or VST or else you are breaking their terms of use.
I would love to post my old tracks here, but I understand that those too are in a legal gray area due to the use of SNES samples, which were also ripped illicitly by the companies that made the games such as Square, who also violated Roland's TOS back in the day (which doesn't apply fully to NG's TOS, so I am not using this as an argument, I am saying this as an example that it seems that, if you look deep enough into it, every SNES soundtrack could be considered plunderphonics)
So, knowing that, should every track here that uses Mario Paint samples be removed? I think I recall hearing a couple tracks that use samples from that game which is technically not, like, supposed to be legal to do.
Some more reading: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/02/super-high-fidelity-mario-the-quest-to-find-original-gaming-audio-samples/
At 12/31/24 03:35 PM, DonnyGrounds wrote:my old SNES music isn't against the rules here, for me to post, but that too uses samples, they aren't really royalty-free, they are owned by companies like Roland etc. who do not allow you (in their legal guidelines) to sample their hardware (like Roland SC-55s) for use in SNES music, it has to be from the exact hardware and you must own it legally (or own a VST emu of it that is officially licensed by Roland, Korg, etc.) and I don't own either, and even then, legally-speaking I wouldn't be able to use those sounds in a sampler anyway, they have to come directly from the rompler or VST or else you are breaking their terms of use.
I would love to post my old tracks here, but I understand that those too are in a legal gray area due to the use of SNES samples, which were also ripped illicitly by the companies that made the games such as Square, who also violated Roland's TOS back in the day (which doesn't apply fully to NG's TOS, so I am not using this as an argument, I am saying this as an example that it seems that, if you look deep enough into it, every SNES soundtrack could be considered plunderphonics)
Just saying, I think Roland are kinda dicks for thinking they can own a waveform spanning less than a tenth of a second. Few if any people are going to care if you use a SNES soundfont, VST, sample, etc., unless they are purists. And rather than flag you for it being illegal, they're just going to whinge. Don't worry about that. Hardly anyone can tell the difference anyway.
So, knowing that, should every track here that uses Mario Paint samples be removed? I think I recall hearing a couple tracks that use samples from that game which is technically not, like, supposed to be legal to do.
Some more reading: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/02/super-high-fidelity-mario-the-quest-to-find-original-gaming-audio-samples/
Not only would it take a million years to sort through all the songs which did have these samples, but I just find it unnecessary. The primary reason we remove things is song theft, legal danger (copyright), and well, now AI music. If the music is original and uses a Mario Paint sample, unless it's of the actual Mario Paint OST, who is really going to know?
VGM (chip and soundfont) is sort of a grey area is what I'm getting at. We would have to remove entire swathes of the genre if we were to start investigating who is really using a chip and I think it goes against our ethics tbh to try.
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Hi, i was banned from uploading music a long time ago because i uploaded someone's recording of a classical music piece. I'm sorry, i was very young and very dumb, I regret my actions, it won't happen again, could you please unban me? I promise, i will upload my own music and my own music only, thank you so much in advance. ❤️🙏
I created a track with Groovepad, I get copyright struck, I send an appeal, The appeal closes. I looked at the Newgrounds terms of service and it says royalty free stock loops are allowed if you give credit. I did give credit. All of my music is created with Groovepad which means that this will happen every time I submit a track. I can't do anything about that. It is an original song, it just uses some of the same LEGAL samples as other tracks. All that I'm asking for is for the appeal to be re-opened and accepted. Thanks!
At 1/19/25 05:31 PM, TatuSounds wrote:I created a track with Groovepad
Groovepad is specifically named in the guidelines as not being allowed for the stock loops use. If you can look into something else to use we'll reconsider the ban but for now it's valid.
"You may not use stock loops/samples in an unoriginal arrangement.
There are plenty of pre-made loop packages available. Simply mixing these loops isn't your own original work; you will need to make more effort to create something unique.
Music made with Groovepad, Live Loop and similar software falls under the stock loops category."
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At 1/19/25 06:52 PM, Pingu wrote:At 1/19/25 05:31 PM, TatuSounds wrote:I created a track with Groovepad
Groovepad is specifically named in the guidelines as not being allowed for the stock loops use. If you can look into something else to use we'll reconsider the ban but for now it's valid.
"You may not use stock loops/samples in an unoriginal arrangement.
There are plenty of pre-made loop packages available. Simply mixing these loops isn't your own original work; you will need to make more effort to create something unique.
Music made with Groovepad, Live Loop and similar software falls under the stock loops category."
I feel like a ban is a bit much for this situation, especially since this falls into the category of unoriginality, not copyright. I'm not going to argue with you because I did break the guidelines. Thanks for at least responding!
At 1/19/25 08:00 PM, TatuSounds wrote:At 1/19/25 06:52 PM, Pingu wrote:At 1/19/25 05:31 PM, TatuSounds wrote:I created a track with Groovepad
Groovepad is specifically named in the guidelines as not being allowed for the stock loops use. If you can look into something else to use we'll reconsider the ban but for now it's valid.
"You may not use stock loops/samples in an unoriginal arrangement.
There are plenty of pre-made loop packages available. Simply mixing these loops isn't your own original work; you will need to make more effort to create something unique.
Music made with Groovepad, Live Loop and similar software falls under the stock loops category."
I feel like a ban is a bit much for this situation, especially since this falls into the category of unoriginality, not copyright. I'm not going to argue with you because I did break the guidelines. Thanks for at least responding!
EDIT: After some "highly complex research" (a Google search), I have found that tracks that are created with Groovepad are actually allowed to be submitted to Newgrounds! Even in the official guidelines, it never directly states that you cannot submit tracks with stock loops (most of the guidelines for stock loops are talking about copyrighted stock loops. Groovepad is royalty free), it's just discouraged. In the guidelines for Groovepad sharing, all that it really says is that you have to give credit to the creators (which I did do). Using all of this information, I have gathered that I didn't really do anything to justify a ban. So again, I please ask of you to accept my appeal, and allow me to continue submitting tracks.
At 1/19/25 08:46 PM, TatuSounds wrote:At 1/19/25 08:00 PM, TatuSounds wrote:At 1/19/25 06:52 PM, Pingu wrote:At 1/19/25 05:31 PM, TatuSounds wrote:I created a track with Groovepad
Groovepad is specifically named in the guidelines as not being allowed for the stock loops use. If you can look into something else to use we'll reconsider the ban but for now it's valid.
"You may not use stock loops/samples in an unoriginal arrangement.
There are plenty of pre-made loop packages available. Simply mixing these loops isn't your own original work; you will need to make more effort to create something unique.
Music made with Groovepad, Live Loop and similar software falls under the stock loops category."
I feel like a ban is a bit much for this situation, especially since this falls into the category of unoriginality, not copyright. I'm not going to argue with you because I did break the guidelines. Thanks for at least responding!
EDIT: After some "highly complex research" (a Google search), I have found that tracks that are created with Groovepad are actually allowed to be submitted to Newgrounds! Even in the official guidelines, it never directly states that you cannot submit tracks with stock loops (most of the guidelines for stock loops are talking about copyrighted stock loops. Groovepad is royalty free), it's just discouraged. In the guidelines for Groovepad sharing, all that it really says is that you have to give credit to the creators (which I did do). Using all of this information, I have gathered that I didn't really do anything to justify a ban. So again, I please ask of you to accept my appeal, and allow me to continue submitting tracks.
EDIT (again): It might sound like I'm just trying to find loopholes, but the reason I'm doing this is because I really don't think I did anything wrong. I'm doing this because I don't think it is fair. I'm not forcing you to listen to what I have to say. I just want you to know my perspective in the matter. Music is something that I'm passionate about and I don't want my experience to be ruined, solely because of the app that I use to create it.
At 1/19/25 08:00 PM, TatuSounds wrote:I feel like a ban is a bit much for this situation, especially since this falls into the category of unoriginality, not copyright.
Which is why I'm taking the stock loops approach. Groovepad is entirely stock loops, and anything over 50% stock isn't acceptable.
Again, can be reassessed if you look into a DAW which isn't just stock loops or listed in the guidelines. This has nothing to do with copyright, it just happens the auto checker referenced against another track using the same loops
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At 1/19/25 09:13 PM, Pingu wrote:At 1/19/25 08:00 PM, TatuSounds wrote:I feel like a ban is a bit much for this situation, especially since this falls into the category of unoriginality, not copyright.
Which is why I'm taking the stock loops approach. Groovepad is entirely stock loops, and anything over 50% stock isn't acceptable.
Again, can be reassessed if you look into a DAW which isn't just stock loops or listed in the guidelines. This has nothing to do with copyright, it just happens the auto checker referenced against another track using the same loops
Are you telling me that if I say that I can make a track without stock, you will unban me? (I know what you're saying, I just don't know what you actually want me to do.)
At 1/19/25 09:46 PM, TatuSounds wrote:Are you telling me that if I say that I can make a track without stock, you will unban me? (I know what you're saying, I just don't know what you actually want me to do.)
I'm telling you to use another program and not rely on stock loops to make your music
ETA: You'd still have a ban for not following the rules, just not the default permanent one the system gave you
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