At 2/16/23 05:43 AM, Leavesz wrote:

At 2/16/23 02:56 AM, Seth wrote:Looking at the author comments, I'm unsure about the ownership of this
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1164026
I'm hoping someone who can provide some insight sees this.

it seems to be a 1:1 recreation of this
https://youtu.be/NS8DPG62Fto

also found this video crediting vitchrose for the "remix"
https://youtu.be/ygMNaN9kGw8

in Triexus only post they don't mention vitchrose being a part of their music group and vitchrose's ng account isn't scouted, so it's very likely that vitchrose asked triexus to upload the track to their account so that it can be used in gd.

At 2/21/23 05:11 PM, g2961 wrote:

in Triexus only post they don't mention vitchrose being a part of their music group and vitchrose's ng account isn't scouted, so it's very likely that vitchrose asked triexus to upload the track to their account so that it can be used in gd.

No, you misunderstood. There is such a game Geometry Dash, and they build different levels in it, and this is not an audio collage, but a collaboration of individual parts of the levels that are made by different creators. These people did not create a remix or an original track, the video uses a track that was written by one person, not 7-9 musicians.

At 2/21/23 07:43 PM, Leavesz wrote:

At 2/21/23 05:11 PM, g2961 wrote:

in Triexus only post they don't mention vitchrose being a part of their music group and vitchrose's ng account isn't scouted, so it's very likely that vitchrose asked triexus to upload the track to their account so that it can be used in gd.

No, you misunderstood. There is such a game Geometry Dash, and they build different levels in it, and this is not an audio collage, but a collaboration of individual parts of the levels that are made by different creators. These people did not create a remix or an original track, the video uses a track that was written by one person, not 7-9 musicians.

That's exactly what I'm trying to say... I think you meant to reply to @tox 's post. Make sure you don't delete the "At mm/dd/yy hh:mm PM, username wrote:" in your reply, otherwise whoever you're replying to won't get notified.

By the way, even the remix itself has copyrights, this can be noticed at the TROLLMACHINE level display under the description where the original musician and track were written.

The video that showcases the gd level collab is actually using the original track, not the remake.

Btw, I did flag the upload we're talking about but seeing that it hasn't been removed yet makes me think I might've lost a couple whistle points.. :c

At 2/21/23 07:43 PM, Leavesz wrote:

At 2/21/23 05:11 PM, g2961 wrote:

in Triexus only post they don't mention vitchrose being a part of their music group and vitchrose's ng account isn't scouted, so it's very likely that vitchrose asked triexus to upload the track to their account so that it can be used in gd.

No, you misunderstood. There is such a game Geometry Dash, and they build different levels in it, and this is not an audio collage, but a collaboration of individual parts of the levels that are made by different creators. These people did not create a remix or an original track, the video uses a track that was written by one person, not 7-9 musicians.

That's exactly what I'm trying to say... I think you meant to reply to @tox 's post. Make sure you don't delete the "At mm/dd/yy hh:mm PM, username wrote:" in your reply, otherwise whoever you're replying to won't get notified.

By the way, even the remix itself has copyrights, this can be noticed at the TROLLMACHINE level display under the description where the original musician and track were written.

The video that showcases the gd level collab is actually using the original track, not the remake.

Btw, I did flag the upload we're talking about but seeing that it hasn't been removed yet makes me think I might've lost a couple whistle points.. :c

At 2/21/23 07:43 PM, Leavesz wrote:

At 2/21/23 05:11 PM, g2961 wrote:

in Triexus only post they don't mention vitchrose being a part of their music group and vitchrose's ng account isn't scouted, so it's very likely that vitchrose asked triexus to upload the track to their account so that it can be used in gd.

No, you misunderstood. There is such a game Geometry Dash, and they build different levels in it, and this is not an audio collage, but a collaboration of individual parts of the levels that are made by different creators. These people did not create a remix or an original track, the video uses a track that was written by one person, not 7-9 musicians.

That's exactly what I'm trying to say... I think you meant to reply to @tox 's post. Make sure you don't delete the "At mm/dd/yy hh:mm PM, username wrote:" in your reply, otherwise whoever you're replying to won't get notified.

By the way, even the remix itself has copyrights, this can be noticed at the TROLLMACHINE level display under the description where the original musician and track were written.

The video that showcases the gd level collab is actually using the original track, not the remake.

Btw, I did flag the upload we're talking about but seeing that it hasn't been removed yet makes me think I might've lost a couple whistle points.. :c

At 2/22/23 04:21 AM, g2961 wrote:

At 2/21/23 07:43 PM, Leavesz wrote:

At 2/21/23 05:11 PM, g2961 wrote:

Btw, I did flag the upload we're talking about but seeing that it hasn't been removed yet makes me think I might've lost a couple whistle points.. :c

And where to see these points?

At 2/22/23 09:26 AM, tox wrote:

At 2/22/23 04:21 AM, g2961 wrote:

At 2/21/23 07:43 PM, Leavesz wrote:

At 2/21/23 05:11 PM, g2961 wrote:

Btw, I did flag the upload we're talking about but seeing that it hasn't been removed yet makes me think I might've lost a couple whistle points.. :c

And where to see these points?

the point numbers are hidden from view, they are a cumulative score on how you do on your flagging
you see how people have gold, or silver or deity whistle status? and then equally normal and garbage whistle status?
just the same as you can go up in whistle rank, you can also go back down in whistle rank

with enough correct flags, you will upgrade your whistle rank, if you incorrectly flag items you will see your own whistle rank go from normal to garbage

the way to tell that your flags are not accepted is that if you post a piece in the audio cleanup thread and a few days later you see the same post up and the items that you have flagged are not removed, then the flagging that you gave the piece was not accepted. hence a false flag

it is then up in the air on IF the mod that reviewed your flag saw that you were being kind and trying your best to defend newgrounds, or if you are just flagging things absent-mindedly.

honest flags usually get dismissed and closed and no negative points are given

being an asshole and flagging things incorrectly again and again... and again... gets you a negative point rating

1 bad flag does not equal 1 good flag

we cant pin down the number but on average a bad flag equals somewhere between 2-5 positive flag points

At 2/22/23 03:05 PM, tox wrote:

At 2/22/23 04:21 AM, g2961 wrote:

At 2/21/23 07:43 PM, Leavesz wrote:

At 2/21/23 05:11 PM, g2961 wrote:

And where to see these points?

This is why I was cringing so hard a few days ago for you and trying to get you to stop, never want to see anyone get smacked down for trying to do a good job like what you were doing on page 166 and 167...
It's just that none of those flags were accepted and I HOPE that the mod that reviewed your flags was kind on your newbie status and just closed the flag reports without smacking your whistle points down

If you were taken to task on those flags you would probably be REALLY really close to passing into the next lower grade downward :(

At 2/22/23 04:01 PM, g2961 wrote:I don't mark this track as a track that violates the rules of the site, I just want to ask a question.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1153434
This is a remix of "Crim3s - Lost", and I have one question. Can this be posted here? It's just that when I talked to Tom Fulp about unban, he said that it would be risky to restore my Phonk remix of this track, since it could violate copyright. My remix has no copyright, there are no vocals in it, just 4 notes that are mixed with other instruments. Can I put my phonk remix back? Also, it does not have similar synths from the original.

At 2/22/23 09:47 PM, tox wrote:

At 2/22/23 04:01 PM, g2961 wrote:I don't mark this track as a track that violates the rules of the site, I just want to ask a question.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1153434
This is a remix of "Crim3s - Lost", and I have one question. Can this be posted here? It's just that when I talked to Tom Fulp about unban, he said that it would be risky to restore my Phonk remix of this track, since it could violate copyright. My remix has no copyright, there are no vocals in it, just 4 notes that are mixed with other instruments. Can I put my phonk remix back? Also, it does not have similar synths from the original.

I listened to the track and read your question a few times, you have confused me with your question

Are you saying that your track was removed because it was similar to this track that you posted? It was inspired by that track and it sounded somewhat similar and was thusly removed? That track is Unrelated to your track and you just want our opinion?

What is the direct question that you want to ask and what are the direct issue's or problems in the equation or what kind of answer are you looking for, from us

Currently I would say that/this track is ok to be posted and remain up because it sounds unique even if it shares some similarities with other tracks that I have heard in the past

At 2/22/23 09:47 PM, tox wrote:

At 2/22/23 04:01 PM, g2961 wrote:I don't mark this track as a track that violates the rules of the site, I just want to ask a question.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1153434
This is a remix of "Crim3s - Lost", and I have one question. Can this be posted here? It's just that when I talked to Tom Fulp about unban, he said that it would be risky to restore my Phonk remix of this track, since it could violate copyright. My remix has no copyright, there are no vocals in it, just 4 notes that are mixed with other instruments. Can I put my phonk remix back? Also, it does not have similar synths from the original.

I listened to the track and read your question a few times, you have confused me with your question

Are you saying that your track was removed because it was similar to this track that you posted? It was inspired by that track and it sounded somewhat similar and was thusly removed? That track is Unrelated to your track and you just want our opinion?

What is the direct question that you want to ask and what are the direct issue's or problems in the equation or what kind of answer are you looking for, from us

Currently I would say that/this track is ok to be posted and remain up because it sounds unique even if it shares some similarities with other tracks that I have heard in the past

At 2/22/23 03:42 PM, g2961 wrote:Reupload of my remix.
Fake - https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1195971
Original - https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1176144
I hope that at least it will not be marked as false, as it is unpleasant when your work is reupload on other account.

At 2/22/23 09:47 PM, tox wrote:

At 2/22/23 04:01 PM, g2961 wrote:I don't mark this track as a track that violates the rules of the site, I just want to ask a question.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1153434
This is a remix of "Crim3s - Lost", and I have one question. Can this be posted here? It's just that when I talked to Tom Fulp about unban, he said that it would be risky to restore my Phonk remix of this track, since it could violate copyright. My remix has no copyright, there are no vocals in it, just 4 notes that are mixed with other instruments. Can I put my phonk remix back? Also, it does not have similar synths from the original.

I listened to the track and read your question a few times, you have confused me with your question

Are you saying that your track was removed because it was similar to this track that you posted? It was inspired by that track and it sounded somewhat similar and was thusly removed? That track is Unrelated to your track and you just want our opinion?

What is the direct question that you want to ask and what are the direct issue's or problems in the equation or what kind of answer are you looking for, from us

Currently I would say that/this track is ok to be posted and remain up because it sounds unique even if it shares some similarities with other tracks that I have heard in the past

At 2/23/23 07:08 AM, g2961 wrote:

At 2/22/23 09:47 PM, tox wrote:

At 2/22/23 04:01 PM, g2961 wrote:I don't mark this track as a track that violates the rules of the site, I just want to ask a question.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1153434
This is a remix of "Crim3s - Lost", and I have one question. Can this be posted here? It's just that when I talked to Tom Fulp about unban, he said that it would be risky to restore my Phonk remix of this track, since it could violate copyright. My remix has no copyright, there are no vocals in it, just 4 notes that are mixed with other instruments. Can I put my phonk remix back? Also, it does not have similar synths from the original.

I listened to the track and read your question a few times, you have confused me with your question

Are you saying that your track was removed because it was similar to this track that you posted? It was inspired by that track and it sounded somewhat similar and was thusly removed? That track is Unrelated to your track and you just want our opinion?

What is the direct question that you want to ask and what are the direct issue's or problems in the equation or what kind of answer are you looking for, from us

Currently I would say that/this track is ok to be posted and remain up because it sounds unique even if it shares some similarities with other tracks that I have heard in the past

I meant that I had a remix of this original track, but it was deleted, so I decided to ask if I could get my remix back. I can send a link to my remix and you will tell me if I can get it back to my account.

At 2/23/23 09:15 AM, tox wrote:

At 2/23/23 07:08 AM, g2961 wrote:

At 2/22/23 09:47 PM, tox wrote:

At 2/22/23 04:01 PM, g2961 wrote:I don't mark this track as a track that violates the rules of the site, I just want to ask a question.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1153434
This is a remix of "Crim3s - Lost", and I have one question. Can this be posted here? It's just that when I talked to Tom Fulp about unban, he said that it would be risky to restore my Phonk remix of this track, since it could violate copyright. My remix has no copyright, there are no vocals in it, just 4 notes that are mixed with other instruments. Can I put my phonk remix back? Also, it does not have similar synths from the original.

I listened to the track and read your question a few times, you have confused me with your question

Are you saying that your track was removed because it was similar to this track that you posted? It was inspired by that track and it sounded somewhat similar and was thusly removed? That track is Unrelated to your track and you just want our opinion?

What is the direct question that you want to ask and what are the direct issue's or problems in the equation or what kind of answer are you looking for, from us

Currently I would say that/this track is ok to be posted and remain up because it sounds unique even if it shares some similarities with other tracks that I have heard in the past

I meant that I had a remix of this original track, but it was deleted, so I decided to ask if I could get my remix back. I can send a link to my remix and you will tell me if I can get it back to my account.

Post a link to The audio so that we can listen, please do not upload it to newgrounds until you have permission to upload directly to newgrounds for this track, the 3 people are:
@pingu
@lexrodent
@tomfulp

Equally you can post your link and question/issue in:
https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1489791

Your question will likely be handled by pingu in 1-3 days depending on schedules

However if you've already brought this to the attention of Tom, and Tom said "no" then you are likely trying to do something that can't be done with a positive outcome for yourself

At 2/23/23 12:46 PM, Seth wrote:

At 2/23/23 11:25 AM, g2961 wrote:

At 2/23/23 09:15 AM, tox wrote:

At 2/23/23 07:08 AM, g2961 wrote:

At 2/22/23 09:47 PM, tox wrote:

At 2/22/23 04:01 PM, g2961 wrote:I don't mark this track as a track that violates the rules of the site, I just want to ask a question.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1153434
This is a remix of "Crim3s - Lost", and I have one question. Can this be posted here? It's just that when I talked to Tom Fulp about unban, he said that it would be risky to restore my Phonk remix of this track, since it could violate copyright. My remix has no copyright, there are no vocals in it, just 4 notes that are mixed with other instruments. Can I put my phonk remix back? Also, it does not have similar synths from the original.

I listened to the track and read your question a few times, you have confused me with your question

Are you saying that your track was removed because it was similar to this track that you posted? It was inspired by that track and it sounded somewhat similar and was thusly removed? That track is Unrelated to your track and you just want our opinion?

What is the direct question that you want to ask and what are the direct issue's or problems in the equation or what kind of answer are you looking for, from us

Currently I would say that/this track is ok to be posted and remain up because it sounds unique even if it shares some similarities with other tracks that I have heard in the past

I meant that I had a remix of this original track, but it was deleted, so I decided to ask if I could get my remix back. I can send a link to my remix and you will tell me if I can get it back to my account.

Post a link to The audio so that we can listen, please do not upload it to newgrounds until you have permission to upload directly to newgrounds for this track, the 3 people are:
@pingu
@lexrodent
@tomfulp

Equally you can post your link and question/issue in:
https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1489791

Your question will likely be handled by pingu in 1-3 days depending on schedules

However if you've already brought this to the attention of Tom, and Tom said "no" then you are likely trying to do something that can't be done with a positive outcome for yourself

Here's my remix - https://youtu.be/ZNtUg0ERB_o

So, you're saying that you and the other guy remixed the same song, and yours was removed for copyright. I do agree that in fairness, either the other remix should be removed or yours restored. Only exception to this would be if this other guy paid for licensing and you didn't.

At 2/23/23 12:46 PM, Seth wrote:

At 2/23/23 11:25 AM, g2961 wrote:

At 2/23/23 09:15 AM, tox wrote:

At 2/23/23 07:08 AM, g2961 wrote:

At 2/22/23 09:47 PM, tox wrote:

At 2/22/23 04:01 PM, g2961 wrote:I don't mark this track as a track that violates the rules of the site, I just want to ask a question.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1153434
This is a remix of "Crim3s - Lost", and I have one question. Can this be posted here? It's just that when I talked to Tom Fulp about unban, he said that it would be risky to restore my Phonk remix of this track, since it could violate copyright. My remix has no copyright, there are no vocals in it, just 4 notes that are mixed with other instruments. Can I put my phonk remix back? Also, it does not have similar synths from the original.

I listened to the track and read your question a few times, you have confused me with your question

Are you saying that your track was removed because it was similar to this track that you posted? It was inspired by that track and it sounded somewhat similar and was thusly removed? That track is Unrelated to your track and you just want our opinion?

What is the direct question that you want to ask and what are the direct issue's or problems in the equation or what kind of answer are you looking for, from us

Currently I would say that/this track is ok to be posted and remain up because it sounds unique even if it shares some similarities with other tracks that I have heard in the past

I meant that I had a remix of this original track, but it was deleted, so I decided to ask if I could get my remix back. I can send a link to my remix and you will tell me if I can get it back to my account.

Post a link to The audio so that we can listen, please do not upload it to newgrounds until you have permission to upload directly to newgrounds for this track, the 3 people are:
@pingu
@lexrodent
@tomfulp

Equally you can post your link and question/issue in:
https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1489791

Your question will likely be handled by pingu in 1-3 days depending on schedules

However if you've already brought this to the attention of Tom, and Tom said "no" then you are likely trying to do something that can't be done with a positive outcome for yourself

Here's my remix - https://youtu.be/ZNtUg0ERB_o

So, you're saying that you and the other guy remixed the same song, and yours was removed for copyright. I do agree that in fairness, either the other remix should be removed or yours restored. Only exception to this would be if this other guy paid for licensing and you didn't.

At 2/22/23 03:42 PM, g2961 wrote:Reupload of my remix.
Fake - https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1195971
Original - https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1176144
I hope that at least it will not be marked as false, as it is unpleasant when your work is reupload on other account.

At 2/23/23 01:00 PM, g2961 wrote:
No! The fact is that my remix does not have any copyrights, that is, it is not written that it has any copyrighted materials. It has a different sound, everything has been changed in it, only the notes from the original remained, and I have redone the rest, it is even audible.

At 2/24/23 01:09 AM, LexRodent wrote:

At 2/23/23 01:00 PM, g2961 wrote:
No! The fact is that my remix does not have any copyrights, that is, it is not written that it has any copyrighted materials. It has a different sound, everything has been changed in it, only the notes from the original remained, and I have redone the rest, it is even audible.

Hello mate.
For any future reference regarding any cover , remake or remix from any artist signed to a record label :
If you don't have proper license from the artist , their label and/or rights manager , it's better not to publish it in here.

Also idk where so many people got the very very wrong idea of copyright being only on the vocals :|
That's absolutely false.
Every part of every published work of every professional musician can be subjected to copyright.

At 2/24/23 01:18 AM, tox wrote:

At 2/24/23 01:09 AM, LexRodent wrote:For any future reference regarding any cover , remake or remix from any artist signed to a record label :
If you don't have proper license from the artist , their label and/or rights manager , it's better not to publish it in here.

Also idk where so many people got the very very wrong idea of copyright being only on the vocals :|
That's absolutely false.
Every part of every published work of every professional musician can be subjected to copyright.

surely though, you don't want us pulling the trigger on audio that broadly though... that rule entales and encompasses a lot if you apply a certain level of malicious compliance

At 2/24/23 04:37 AM, g2961 wrote:Reupload of my remix.
This is a re-upload of an old version of my remix, it was called "KOCMOC (EDM)", but I deleted it because it sounded bad. This person downloaded my old version once and re-uploaded it to himself. It 's audible even by ear. If you think I'm lying, then I can provide a project from the DAW program in which I did it.
Original - https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1194021
Fake - https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1196659