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Audio Portal Cleanup

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G2961
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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 16:18:39

At 2/15/23 03:31 PM, tox wrote:@g2961

https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1375322/165#bbspost27636243_post_text
maybe. this one is close, that goes to a mod for determination
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https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1375322/165#bbspost27636249_post_text
correct.
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https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1375322/165#bbspost27636257_post_text
incorrect. that one passes, its not breaking a rule
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https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1375322/165#bbspost27636258_post_text
incorrect. i can hear where you are coming from on this, but this one passes
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https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1375322/165#bbspost27636265_post_text
incorrect. if the OC is not copyrighted, a secondary copyright from a new author that covers the song cant stand in court, so it does not violate our rule as long as the audio can be reasonably seen as original "enough"... took a listen and this person goes RIGHT off the rails all over the place from the original song synths
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https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1375322/165#bbspost27640735_post_text
correct. dead on, clean whistle points
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https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1375322/165#bbspost27640743_post_text
maybe. that goes to a mod for determination, but i can hear where you are coming from on that
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https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1375322/165#bbspost27640747_post_text
correct. you are correct on that one
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https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1375322/165#bbspost27640756_post_text
incorrect. the audio that you are calling him on is owned by the author who is the youtube owner's channel and is 2 years old on youtube.
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https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1375322/165#bbspost27640762_post_text
more work is neede so incorrect so far. what song are you telling us that it is a copyright to, where is your youtube or sound cloud or other link to an original song for our listening
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https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1375322/165#bbspost27640764_post_text
.... eeeehhhh... you need more experience bud...


I thought that remixes of commercial songs should not be uploaded

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 16:37:36 (edited 2023-02-15 16:44:05)

At 2/15/23 04:18 PM, g2961 wrote:
At 2/15/23 03:31 PM, tox wrote:
I thought that remixes of commercial songs should not be uploaded

COVERS and REMIXES of existing songs are accepted if you have permission from the original artist or the original song is public domain.


you need to show a link to the copyright of the song in this case.

remember in school when the teacher told you to show your work to get full marks? same rule here


showing your work will help you exponentially in this case because it will make you prove your own work before you submit a flag on a submitted piece. it also makes it so much easier for the mods like @pingu who have to deal with people that get falsely flagged, and then have to prove or un-do bans or write reports or deal with things that turn up into falsely flagged materials.

https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1489791/1

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G2961
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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 16:43:35 (edited 2023-02-15 16:46:16)

At 2/15/23 03:43 PM, tox wrote:
At 2/15/23 01:20 PM, g2961 wrote:And these are remixes of "Morgenstern" tracks or stolen songs, mashups.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1056887
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1045222
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1063614
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1097361
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1086724
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1109487
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1084206
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1169999
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1087592
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1101929
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1089791
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1114269
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1157881
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1161223
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1078713
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1176035
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1062215
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1111742
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1072796
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1144836

COVERS and REMIXES of existing songs are accepted if you have permission from the original artist or the original song is public domain

Be careful what you flag, most of these pass. the phonic stuff is under determination, but anything from MORGENSHTERN is public domain so if the mods call you on your incorrect flags, then you will receive HEAVY negative whistle points.If, for example, this song is used in a YouTube video, then I will get copyrights for it, but it doesn't work like that on NG? Or is this system of distributing songs with copyrights not fully finalized? I don't quite understand. If the song is on streaming sites, will it be banned for it if you try to post it? Or is this system not related to comparing the sound with tracks that are on streaming sites?


And what is meant by public domain?

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 16:45:05

At 2/15/23 03:43 PM, tox wrote:
At 2/15/23 01:20 PM, g2961 wrote:And these are remixes of "Morgenstern" tracks or stolen songs, mashups.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1056887
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1045222
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1063614
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1097361
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1086724
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1109487
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1084206
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1169999
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1087592
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1101929
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1089791
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1114269
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1157881
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1161223
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1078713
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1176035
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1062215
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1111742
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1072796
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1144836

COVERS and REMIXES of existing songs are accepted if you have permission from the original artist or the original song is public domain

Be careful what you flag, most of these pass. the phonic stuff is under determination, but anything from MORGENSHTERN is public domain so if the mods call you on your incorrect flags, then you will receive HEAVY negative whistle points.


It's just that the MORGENSHTERN artist does not upload his music for free, but sells it on music venues.

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 16:46:18

At 2/15/23 04:45 PM, g2961 wrote:
At 2/15/23 03:43 PM, tox wrote:
At 2/15/23 01:20 PM, g2961 wrote:And these are remixes of "Morgenstern" tracks or stolen songs, mashups.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1056887
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1045222
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1063614
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1097361
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1086724
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1109487
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1084206
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1169999
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1087592
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1101929
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1089791
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1114269
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1157881
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1161223
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1078713
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1176035
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1062215
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1111742
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1072796
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1144836

COVERS and REMIXES of existing songs are accepted if you have permission from the original artist or the original song is public domain

Be careful what you flag, most of these pass. the phonic stuff is under determination, but anything from MORGENSHTERN is public domain so if the mods call you on your incorrect flags, then you will receive HEAVY negative whistle points.

It's just that the MORGENSHTERN artist does not upload his music for free, but sells it on music venues.


prove the copyright, digital busking does not equal copyright ownership

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G2961
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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 16:50:04

At 2/15/23 04:46 PM, tox wrote:
At 2/15/23 04:45 PM, g2961 wrote:
At 2/15/23 03:43 PM, tox wrote:
At 2/15/23 01:20 PM, g2961 wrote:And these are remixes of "Morgenstern" tracks or stolen songs, mashups.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1056887
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1045222
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1063614
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1097361
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1086724
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1109487
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1084206
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1169999
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1087592
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1101929
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1089791
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1114269
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1157881
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1161223
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1078713
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1176035
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1062215
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1111742
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1072796
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1144836

COVERS and REMIXES of existing songs are accepted if you have permission from the original artist or the original song is public domain

Be careful what you flag, most of these pass. the phonic stuff is under determination, but anything from MORGENSHTERN is public domain so if the mods call you on your incorrect flags, then you will receive HEAVY negative whistle points.

It's just that the MORGENSHTERN artist does not upload his music for free, but sells it on music venues.

prove the copyright, digital busking does not equal copyright ownership


For example, YouTube shows that this is his track under copyright and shows which label released it.

iu_897568_12226332.webp

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G2961
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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 16:52:04

At 2/15/23 04:46 PM, tox wrote:
At 2/15/23 04:45 PM, g2961 wrote:
At 2/15/23 03:43 PM, tox wrote:
At 2/15/23 01:20 PM, g2961 wrote:And these are remixes of "Morgenstern" tracks or stolen songs, mashups.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1056887
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1045222
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1063614
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1097361
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1086724
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1109487
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1084206
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1169999
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1087592
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1101929
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1089791
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1114269
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1157881
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1161223
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1078713
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1176035
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1062215
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1111742
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1072796
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1144836

COVERS and REMIXES of existing songs are accepted if you have permission from the original artist or the original song is public domain

Be careful what you flag, most of these pass. the phonic stuff is under determination, but anything from MORGENSHTERN is public domain so if the mods call you on your incorrect flags, then you will receive HEAVY negative whistle points.

It's just that the MORGENSHTERN artist does not upload his music for free, but sells it on music venues.

prove the copyright, digital busking does not equal copyright ownership


I just thought that someone in the English NG community had heard this track, but I sent a photo above where it says that this is a commercial track from Eldzhe and MORGENSHTERN.

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 16:53:46

As far as I know, mashups with licensed music are also prohibited, but MORGENSHTERN music is such.

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 16:57:02 (edited 2023-02-15 16:57:40)

Also, a mashup with the song DULO from the same MORGENSHTERN was posted on NG. And this track is copyrighted. Almost every track of his has copyrights, except for his oldest tracks.iu_897573_12226332.jpg

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 17:02:01

I can also say about A4 - Kids and #1. They also have copyright rights, since these tracks are posted on Yandex Music. You can upload tracks there only through a distributor.

iu_897577_12226332.webp

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 17:07:27

At 2/15/23 12:32 PM, g2961 wrote:Here's a good remix, I even liked it myself, but it's not according to the rules of this site.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1183216

This track is also copyrighted. I will get tired of sending screenshots where it is indicated that the track is commercial and distributed under some kind of license. You can check for yourself, all the tracks that I sent to this discussion thread have copyrights. If a track is uploaded to at least one music platform, then it is copyrighted (except SoundCloud, because you can upload the track there yourself)

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 17:10:31

At 2/15/23 05:02 PM, g2961 wrote:


please just post a link to a youtube.com or other website where the copyright holder is clearly labeled

we work under the American/.com/.ca copyright rules on Newgrounds


screenshots are not needed

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 17:13:39

More experience? This track is also copyrighted. Under each YouTube video with this track, it is indicated what kind of track it is. This means that the song is copyrighted.

iu_897586_12226332.webp


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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 17:15:50 (edited 2023-02-15 17:18:02)

incorrect. if the OC is not copyrighted, a secondary copyright from a new author that covers the song cant stand in court, so it does not violate our rule as long as the audio can be reasonably seen as original "enough"... took a listen and this person goes RIGHT off the rails all over the place from the original song synths
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This is original song by Cypis - https://youtu.be/qrxv0JNVtgY

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 17:17:20

At 2/15/23 05:13 PM, g2961 wrote:More experience? This track is also copyrighted. Under each YouTube video with this track, it is indicated what kind of track it is. This means that the song is copyrighted.

https://youtu.be/D_kFQ9oKDaE

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 17:19:42

At 2/15/23 04:46 PM, tox wrote:
At 2/15/23 04:45 PM, g2961 wrote:
At 2/15/23 03:43 PM, tox wrote:
At 2/15/23 01:20 PM, g2961 wrote:And these are remixes of "Morgenstern" tracks or stolen songs, mashups.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1056887
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1045222
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1063614
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1097361
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1086724
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1109487
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1084206
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1169999
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1087592
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1101929
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1089791
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1114269
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1157881
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1161223
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1078713
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1176035
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1062215
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1111742
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1072796
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1144836

COVERS and REMIXES of existing songs are accepted if you have permission from the original artist or the original song is public domain

Be careful what you flag, most of these pass. the phonic stuff is under determination, but anything from MORGENSHTERN is public domain so if the mods call you on your incorrect flags, then you will receive HEAVY negative whistle points.

It's just that the MORGENSHTERN artist does not upload his music for free, but sells it on music venues.

prove the copyright, digital busking does not equal copyright ownership


Cadillac - https://youtu.be/bzkYsiKtRIw

Dulo- https://youtu.be/zJODMh2cULg

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 17:19:54

At 2/15/23 05:15 PM, g2961 wrote:
incorrect. if the OC is not copyrighted, a secondary copyright from a new author that covers the song cant stand in court, so it does not violate our rule as long as the audio can be reasonably seen as original "enough"... took a listen and this person goes RIGHT off the rails all over the place from the original song synths
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https://youtu.be/qrxv0JNVtgY This is original song by Cypis - https://youtu.be/qrxv0JNVtgY


no copyright

iu_897596_1892271.png


currently... this would be rated as a false flag on your half


a copyright would look like this:


iu_897597_1892271.png

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 17:20:29

At 2/15/23 05:13 PM, g2961 wrote:More experience? This track is also copyrighted. Under each YouTube video with this track, it is indicated what kind of track it is. This means that the song is copyrighted.


https://youtu.be/D_kFQ9oKDaE

This is Бутырка - Аттестат

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 17:22:56

At 2/15/23 05:13 PM, g2961 wrote:More experience? This track is also copyrighted. Under each YouTube video with this track, it is indicated what kind of track it is. This means that the song is copyrighted.


Songwriters sometimes make it so that there are no copyrights under their clip, but they are under other videos. Here is an example https://youtu.be/6GCng7cjJ7M

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 17:25:10

At 2/15/23 05:19 PM, g2961 wrote:
At 2/15/23 04:46 PM, tox wrote:
At 2/15/23 04:45 PM, g2961 wrote:
At 2/15/23 03:43 PM, tox wrote:
At 2/15/23 01:20 PM, g2961 wrote:And these are remixes of "Morgenstern" tracks or stolen songs, mashups.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1056887
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1045222
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1063614
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1097361
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1086724
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1109487
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1084206
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1169999
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1087592
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1101929
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1089791
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1114269
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1157881
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1161223
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1078713
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1176035
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1062215
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1111742
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1072796
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1144836

COVERS and REMIXES of existing songs are accepted if you have permission from the original artist or the original song is public domain

Be careful what you flag, most of these pass. the phonic stuff is under determination, but anything from MORGENSHTERN is public domain so if the mods call you on your incorrect flags, then you will receive HEAVY negative whistle points.

It's just that the MORGENSHTERN artist does not upload his music for free, but sells it on music venues.

prove the copyright, digital busking does not equal copyright ownership

Cadillac - https://youtu.be/bzkYsiKtRIw
Dulo- https://youtu.be/zJODMh2cULg


Another example, only with MORGENSHTERN - DULO.

https://youtu.be/WK5CbMXgAvA

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 17:26:35

At 2/15/23 05:22 PM, g2961 wrote:
At 2/15/23 05:13 PM, g2961 wrote:More experience? This track is also copyrighted. Under each YouTube video with this track, it is indicated what kind of track it is. This means that the song is copyrighted.

Songwriters sometimes make it so that there are no copyrights under their clip, but they are under other videos. Here is an example https://youtu.be/6GCng7cjJ7M


@tox

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 17:27:48

At 2/15/23 05:25 PM, g2961 wrote:
At 2/15/23 05:19 PM, g2961 wrote:
At 2/15/23 04:46 PM, tox wrote:
At 2/15/23 04:45 PM, g2961 wrote:
At 2/15/23 03:43 PM, tox wrote:
At 2/15/23 01:20 PM, g2961 wrote:And these are remixes of "Morgenstern" tracks or stolen songs, mashups.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1056887
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1045222
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1063614
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1097361
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1086724
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1109487
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1084206
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1169999
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1087592
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1101929
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1089791
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1114269
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1157881
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1161223
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1078713
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1176035
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1062215
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1111742
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1072796
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1144836

COVERS and REMIXES of existing songs are accepted if you have permission from the original artist or the original song is public domain

Be careful what you flag, most of these pass. the phonic stuff is under determination, but anything from MORGENSHTERN is public domain so if the mods call you on your incorrect flags, then you will receive HEAVY negative whistle points.

It's just that the MORGENSHTERN artist does not upload his music for free, but sells it on music venues.

prove the copyright, digital busking does not equal copyright ownership

Cadillac - https://youtu.be/bzkYsiKtRIw
Dulo- https://youtu.be/zJODMh2cULg

Another example, only with MORGENSHTERN - DULO.
https://youtu.be/WK5CbMXgAvA


@tox the same example

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 17:28:57

At 2/15/23 05:27 PM, g2961 wrote:
At 2/15/23 05:25 PM, g2961 wrote:
At 2/15/23 05:19 PM, g2961 wrote:
At 2/15/23 04:46 PM, tox wrote:
At 2/15/23 04:45 PM, g2961 wrote:
At 2/15/23 03:43 PM, tox wrote:
At 2/15/23 01:20 PM, g2961 wrote:And these are remixes of "Morgenstern" tracks or stolen songs, mashups.
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1056887
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1045222
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1063614
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1097361
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1086724
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1109487
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1084206
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1169999
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1087592
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1101929
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1089791
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1114269
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1157881
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1161223
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1078713
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1176035
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1062215
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1111742
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1072796
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1144836

COVERS and REMIXES of existing songs are accepted if you havepermission from the original artist or the original song is public domain

Be careful what you flag, most of these pass. the phonic stuff is under determination, but anything from MORGENSHTERN is public domain so if the mods call you on your incorrect flags, then you will receive HEAVY negative whistle points.

It's just that the MORGENSHTERN artist does not upload his music for free, but sells it on music venues.

prove the copyright, digital busking does not equal copyright ownership

Cadillac - https://youtu.be/bzkYsiKtRIw
Dulo- https://youtu.be/zJODMh2cULg

Another example, only with MORGENSHTERN - DULO.
https://youtu.be/WK5CbMXgAvA

@tox the same example


this is not a false report!

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G2961
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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 17:31:51

Can you feel heart remix is an illegally uploaded track

https://youtu.be/QJJYpsA5tv8

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 17:37:59

@tox What is the outcome? If you think something is wrong, then I can send links to all the tracks that you considered normal right now.

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 17:50:40

At 2/15/23 05:31 PM, g2961 wrote:Can you feel heart remix is an illegally uploaded track
https://youtu.be/QJJYpsA5tv8


my dude... you need to slow down if you want my input, i need time to read individual items, research them, and then reply to them. it's not a race, I'm not as invested in this as you are at this time.


if you want I can go into the audio portal, find an uploaded song that breaks the rules and then show you how i would report it here so that it is easy for reference material for people down the line...


COVERS and REMIXES of existing songs are accepted if you have permission from the original artist or the original song is public domain. We can not accept covers of songs you've heard on the radio or anything else


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJJYpsA5tv8&ab_channel=BMTHOfficialVEVO

this one would be somewhat difficult to determine and in many occurrences, this would then pass because we have to assess the originality of the piece. If I take the lyrics and then break them up to make them more of an instrument rather than a message of what the singer is trying to convey then the original intent of they lyrics is kinda lost. a mod will likely allow this one to pass as a result


this one is FAR more likely to be removed as the lyrics are intact, and the drums have been altered only minorly.

but this would go to a mod for a determination as there are sections of the uploaded content that have been far more modified than the rest


the rule that you would call each on would be the covers and remixes rule or the

Newgrounds is a place to share your own original works


if you click into the audio track in question and click on the flag icon and see your original written flagged report, then a mod has not reviewed the flag yet and the flag itself is still pending. if you do not see any writing, then the report has been closed and you may have received false flag/whistle points as a determination was made that the uploaded audio did not break the rules

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 18:00:40 (edited 2023-02-15 18:01:31)

At 2/15/23 05:50 PM, tox wrote:
At 2/15/23 05:31 PM, g2961 wrote:Can you feel heart remix is an illegally uploaded track
https://youtu.be/QJJYpsA5tv8

my dude... you need to slow down if you want my input, i need time to read individual items, research them, and then reply to them. it's not a race, I'm not as invested in this as you are at this time.

if you want I can go into the audio portal, find an uploaded song that breaks the rules and then show you how i would report it here so that it is easy for reference material for people down the line...

COVERS and REMIXES of existing songs are accepted if you have permission from the original artist or the original song is public domain. We can not accept covers of songs you've heard on the radio or anything else


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJJYpsA5tv8&ab_channel=BMTHOfficialVEVO
https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1190957
this one would be somewhat difficult to determine and in many occurrences, this would then pass because we have to assess the originality of the piece. If I take the lyrics and then break them up to make them more of an instrument rather than a message of what the singer is trying to convey then the original intent of they lyrics is kinda lost. a mod will likely allow this one to pass as a result

https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/553656
this one is FAR more likely to be removed as the lyrics are intact, and the drums have been altered only minorly.
but this would go to a od for a determination as there are sections of the uploaded content that have been far more modified than the rest

the rule that you would call each on would be the covers and remixes rule or the

Newgrounds is a place to share your own original works


if you click into the audio track in question and click on the flag icon and see your original written flagged report, then a mod has not reviewed the flag yet and the flag itself is still pending. if you do not see any writing, then the report has been closed and you may have received false flag/whistle points as a determination was made that the uploaded audio did not break the rules

Okay, I get it. I apologize for trying to prove so quickly that any audio infringes copyright, like it's my job.

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 18:04:34 (edited 2023-02-15 18:09:21)

@tox https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1190957

I just found out that maybe this remix can just be re-uploaded from this video.

It's just that there is no reference to the NG of this remixer in the description. And his nickname is different. If it was his account, then in addition to this remix, he could have posted his other works.

And it's also suspicious that 2 days later he posted this remix, as if this account was created specifically to simply re-upload this remix.

https://youtu.be/t7U6IIQ0oQ4

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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-15 19:38:11 (edited 2023-02-15 19:39:25)

At 2/15/23 06:04 PM, g2961 wrote:@tox https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1190957
I just found out that maybe this remix can just be re-uploaded from this video.
It's just that there is no reference to the NG of this remixer in the description. And his nickname is different. If it was his account, then in addition to this remix, he could have posted his other works.
And it's also suspicious that 2 days later he posted this remix, as if this account was created specifically to simply re-upload this remix.
https://youtu.be/t7U6IIQ0oQ4


if the original video that is being used is copyrighted, and the first flagged entry is removed under the use of the copyrighted audio, any subsequent items that use the same audio or similar audio, uploaded or downloaded from any source, are also subject to removal. it's not a promise that they will be removed, but it's a good bet that if one song is similar to the next, and one gets removed, the next will be too


however... all audio is subject to its own examination and determination. we HAVE to be fair in that process


submissions need to clearly break the rules to be flagged, and a determination needs to be done by a mod where a piece is bending a rule


flag in good faith... always flag in good faith
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G2961
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Response to Audio Portal Cleanup 2023-02-16 02:54:43

At 2/15/23 07:38 PM, tox wrote:
At 2/15/23 06:04 PM, g2961 wrote:@tox https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1190957
I just found out that maybe this remix can just be re-uploaded from this video.
It's just that there is no reference to the NG of this remixer in the description. And his nickname is different. If it was his account, then in addition to this remix, he could have posted his other works.
And it's also suspicious that 2 days later he posted this remix, as if this account was created specifically to simply re-upload this remix.
https://youtu.be/t7U6IIQ0oQ4

if the original video that is being used is copyrighted, and the first flagged entry is removed under the use of the copyrighted audio, any subsequent items that use the same audio or similar audio, uploaded or downloaded from any source, are also subject to removal. it's not a promise that they will be removed, but it's a good bet that if one song is similar to the next, and one gets removed, the next will be too

however... all audio is subject to its own examination and determination. we HAVE to be fair in that process

submissions need to clearly break the rules to be flagged, and a determination needs to be done by a mod where a piece is bending a rule

flag in good faith... always flag in good faith


Okay, I got it.

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