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CamillaRhodes
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 02:32:47

so i guess this is where all the tr00 and kvlt metalheads hang out. in that case, i'd most definately like to join.

here's my band list (not including metalcore, nu-metal, and acoustic acts)

marduk
mayhem
immortal
burzum
necrophagist
cryptopsy
vader
decapitated
slayer
anthrax
kreator
in flames
soilwork
amon amarth
yngwie malmsteen
dragonforce
children of bodom
dying fetus
carcass
cannibal corpse
nile
death
deicide
obituary
morbid angel
suffocation
asphyx
intestine baalism
x japan
sonata arctica
blind guardian
edguy
avantasia
judas priest
iron maiden
manowar
nevermore
lacuna coil
penumbra
elis
epica
within temptation
the sins of thy beloved
after forever
sirenia
tristania
the gathering
porcupine tree
green carnation
opeth
dream theater
symphony x
agalloch
gamma ray
hammerfall

just to name a few.

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ElGhoulio
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 03:26:46

At 1/22/06 02:32 AM, CamillaRhodes wrote: stuff

Jee gplly susy I'd sauy your in man

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CamillaRhodes
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 04:17:13

can i have some feedback on a song of mine please. this is my first submission so naturally i just want some comments for the first one.
http://www.newground..453605&sub=41270

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CamillaRhodes
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 05:33:40

nevermind that. explanation is in nu-metal/metalcore thread.

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Tuovila
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 07:03:11

At 1/21/06 01:21 PM, X_AntiherO_X wrote:
At 1/21/06 01:13 PM, Tuovila wrote: somethin bout covers
i was under the impression that this would be an original production

Yeah, me too. I wasn't really talking about submitting a cover to the Metal Hell CD, but now that you mentioned it, it's starting to sound like an idea! I have no idea how my band is going to turn out though, so unfortunately I can't make any guarantees of anything... :( Only time will tell how thrilled the other guys actually are about this band. But still, as we might want to record something, be it metal or not, does somebody here have first-hand info about publishing covers?

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Goatchrist
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 07:27:20

CamillaRhodes, welcome to the club.

Holy shit, that's what I call a flame war up there! I'm not going to take part in this, especially not on the talents of anyone in here. I still need to hear your In Winter Lies the Warmth, Ghoul. Where the hell is it?

I have to disagree with Ghoul about Jarrydn's track he posted here. I like it a lot and I don't think his drum machine is distracting at all, in fact, I'd love to have one like that myself :)

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jarrydn
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 07:53:44

At 1/22/06 07:27 AM, Goatchrist wrote: I have to disagree with Ghoul about Jarrydn's track he posted here. I like it a lot and I don't think his drum machine is distracting at all, in fact, I'd love to have one like that myself :)

Thanks man :). I'd like to start laying down some lyrics, but my voice is currently fucked (doing the whole Kill You Mother, Rape Your Dog thing at band practice :P ).

As for the drums, I'm sure Willpostforfood and I can help you out with that :)

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X-Imperium-X
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 09:07:47

*shies away from fighting*

I picked up "The Gallery" by Dark Tranquillity yesterday, as an early birthday present, and it kicketh major ass, my favorite of the pre-Projector era of thier work.

I'm glad people like my compilation. I think (if possible) that if GChrist and Ghoul could...erm...Work together on a track? IDK, just wanted to throw that out there. Also, are we going to distribute and/or sell, or just post it up on the site? Because I think it would be quality enough for Ghoul to sell....

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WillPostForFood
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 09:37:21

sorry havnt posted in a few pages :P.

just thaught i would hop in this for a second.

ghoul, your music is fine. its lo fi BM tho...so your just not gonna attract a big audience. and there is nothing wrong with a drum machine. actually drum machines can sound exactly like real drums if you know how to use them properly.

about the production argument! i do agree that ghoul maybe you should clean it up a bit. Even bands like mayhem that used to have the really lo fi wash out production are now moving on to use more clean and better sounding things. :( and i cant believe you said goratory has shit production.

meh..thats really all i have to say. i hate to pick a side like this..but ghoul you are being kinda unreasonable on a few things..

The names Food, WillPostForFood.

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bred4abortion
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 10:37:10

Personaly i prefer a good production, but theres nothing wrong with the lo fi production either, it still sounds kool, and evil.
And ghoul, ill send you a song on msn for your opinion on it.

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Effigy23
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 11:24:39

>.< *wants in the club* Omfg. Clubbage. Erm.
Bands:
Devil Driver
American Headcharge
Decapitated
The Berzerker
Discorge etc..
Songs:
American Headcharge - Cowards
The Berzerker - MonoGrind
Devil Driver - I Could Care Less
Kataklysm - Ambassador of Pain
Amon Amarth - Death in Fire
And so on..

Am I in the club?

"There's only two things I hate in life, Hypocrites and people who quote themselves." - Me

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TotallySpies
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 11:57:44

wtf? I get banned for 1 day and immediatly someone takes over all the hating and fighting from me?

c'mon people, be nice <3

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Lykaki
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 12:26:06

Seriously!!! You are sooo right! I was absent for a day as well, and a whole fucking war raged metal hell! Plus I werent there to protect Ghoul from the people who are evil towards his music. Sorry Ghoul that I wasnt here to support you XP
Btw a compilation is something meant to have DIFFERENT parts, so everyone having a different style, a different production, different tastes and different strenghts and weakness is what a compilation is about. No one will be outshadowed by anyone esle, everyone's music is di-fucking-fferent! Jarrydn kinda pissed me off. I dont get it, he is a nice guy usually.

Anyway... Welcome to the new guy, some cool stuff mentioned. Though its kinda weird how you love metal and nu-metal/metalcore with equal passion... O.o

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X-Imperium-X
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 12:37:01

At 1/22/06 11:24 AM, Effigy23 wrote: Bands

Yeah, probably...GChrist gets final say, but I think you're most likely in....

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X-AntiherO-X
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 12:44:28

At 1/22/06 07:03 AM, Tuovila wrote:
At 1/21/06 01:21 PM, X_AntiherO_X wrote:
At 1/21/06 01:13 PM, Tuovila wrote: somethin bout covers
i was under the impression that this would be an original production
does somebody here have first-hand info about publishing covers?

alls i know is that its sketchy, and somethin about getting permission from the original composer blah blah blah. that is, if we intended to sell it. which is a toss up between a good idea and a bad idea, really.
anyhoo, my lame acoustic services are offered to everyone.
*wanders off to kick his busted marshall crates out the second story window*

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AtomikWarTerrorizor
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 13:35:43

At 1/22/06 07:27 AM, Goatchrist wrote: CamillaRhodes, welcome to the club.

Holy shit, that's what I call a flame war up there! I'm not going to take part in this, especially not on the talents of anyone in here. I still need to hear your In Winter Lies the Warmth, Ghoul. Where the hell is it?

I sent you an email with the link if you haven't gotten it already.


I have to disagree with Ghoul about Jarrydn's track he posted here. I like it a lot and I don't think his drum machine is distracting at all, in fact, I'd love to have one like that myself :)

Eh. I really don't like drum machines, they are usually too high in the mix. I don't like the song simply because it sounds like something my dad would listen to. There's no danger, no attitude, and more importantly, the songwriting is rather unoriginal and seems to follow the "more money, more quality" philosophy, which isn't NECESSARILY true. It seems to be very technically great, but just a shell of black metal, an attempt by outsiders to make black metal. I guess it's not my cup of tea. It sounds too much like demon burger or cradle of fags to me.

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AtomikWarTerrorizor
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 13:41:31

At 1/22/06 09:37 AM, WillPostForFood wrote: sorry havnt posted in a few pages :P.

just thaught i would hop in this for a second.

ghoul, your music is fine. its lo fi BM tho...so your just not gonna attract a big audience. and there is nothing wrong with a drum machine. actually drum machines can sound exactly like real drums if you know how to use them properly.

Still... it's annoying robotic.


about the production argument! i do agree that ghoul maybe you should clean it up a bit. Even bands like mayhem that used to have the really lo fi wash out production are now moving on to use more clean and better sounding things. :( and i cant believe you said goratory has shit production.

Clean production IS shit production in my mind. It takes no imagination to do. It always leaves me feeling as if I'm watching a Ken Burns documentary. I prefer having a production that reminds me of the vast, icy, abysses and deep cataclysms of the underworld, or the incredible majesty and greatness of the pagan forest. I don't want the production to sound like it was made in the studio. That's shit production. Anyways, Goratory has always mixed the bass in too high.

meh..thats really all i have to say. i hate to pick a side like this..but ghoul you are being kinda unreasonable on a few things..

Nah. I stand by everything I said. I prefer black metal to be gritty, dirty, washed over, and whatnot. And there are STILL bands who go for the lo-fi thing, and I'm one of them. As a funny afterthought, though, Kali Yuga actually has a production about 1000x cleaner than most of my other stuff.

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Effigy23
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 13:44:34

At 1/22/06 12:26 PM, Lykaki wrote:
Anyway... Welcome to the new guy, some cool stuff mentioned. Though its kinda weird how you love metal and nu-metal/metalcore with equal passion... O.o

Thnx for the welcome. As for the music tastes I pretty much like anything that falls under "metal" and it many sub-genres. Exept opera metal. Shite.

"There's only two things I hate in life, Hypocrites and people who quote themselves." - Me

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Effigy23
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 13:47:00

PS: There is no such thing as "punk metal".

"There's only two things I hate in life, Hypocrites and people who quote themselves." - Me

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AtomikWarTerrorizor
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 13:47:58

At 1/22/06 12:26 PM, Lykaki wrote: Seriously!!! You are sooo right! I was absent for a day as well, and a whole fucking war raged metal hell! Plus I werent there to protect Ghoul from the people who are evil towards his music. Sorry Ghoul that I wasnt here to support you XP

Don't worry about it, I was more taken aback by Jarrydn's fowardness than anything else.

Btw a compilation is something meant to have DIFFERENT parts, so everyone having a different style, a different production, different tastes and different strenghts and weakness is what a compilation is about. No one will be outshadowed by anyone esle, everyone's music is di-fucking-fferent! Jarrydn kinda pissed me off. I dont get it, he is a nice guy usually.

He's always called me an elitist... which is funny... because I'm totally not. He just has no respect for lo-fi black metal. And I'm not even that... the music from the demo has shit production. I'll admit that. But the other one is just meant to have a wild, out-of-control production. Intentional, b.

Anyway... Welcome to the new guy, some cool stuff mentioned. Though its kinda weird how you love metal and nu-metal/metalcore with equal passion... O.o

I guess he's in...

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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 13:51:04

At 1/22/06 01:44 PM, Effigy23 wrote:
At 1/22/06 12:26 PM, Lykaki wrote:
Anyway... Welcome to the new guy, some cool stuff mentioned. Though its kinda weird how you love metal and nu-metal/metalcore with equal passion... O.o
Thnx for the welcome. As for the music tastes I pretty much like anything that falls under "metal" and it many sub-genres. Exept opera metal. Shite.

shit. I like that kind of stuff. Well, I like opera electronica more, but I still LOVE opera metal. Or rather, blackened metal with a dude singing opera in the background. Yeah. I just don't like nu metal/metalcore. The only "metal" I don't like. The rest I love.

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Goatchrist
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 14:19:38

At 1/22/06 01:35 PM, MetalWarriorFromHell wrote: seems to follow the "more money, more quality" philosophy, which isn't NECESSARILY true. An attempt by outsiders to make black metal.

When I'm close to forming a understanding opinion you write something like that. This is what makes you SOUND like an elistist, even though you pretend not to be one. It makes you sound like that you know the art of "making tr00 kvlt black metal" and guys like Jaaryn are outsiders. How do you know? It's just a difference, and btw, his samples remind me more of newer Graveworm than anythingelse. Still a lot more BM than what Dimmu and Cradle put out.

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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 14:33:04

At 1/22/06 02:19 PM, Goatchrist wrote:
At 1/22/06 01:35 PM, MetalWarriorFromHell wrote: seems to follow the "more money, more quality" philosophy, which isn't NECESSARILY true. An attempt by outsiders to make black metal.
When I'm close to forming a understanding opinion you write something like that. This is what makes you SOUND like an elistist, even though you pretend not to be one. It makes you sound like that you know the art of "making tr00 kvlt black metal" and guys like Jaaryn are outsiders. How do you know? It's just a difference, and btw, his samples remind me more of newer Graveworm than anythingelse. Still a lot more BM than what Dimmu and Cradle put out.

I said NECESSARILY. In english, that means the "more money, more quality" philosophy doesn't work 100% of the time. I'm not saying more money is a bad thing, I'm just not saying it's the cure all panacaea. There's better ways of making good music than throwing money at it, and his sample just sounds like that, in my opinion. I listened to it once. Didn't remember a thing from it. Listened to it again. Same result. After 10 listens, I still wasn't hooked in. I guess it was just too boring for me.

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Goatchrist
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 14:39:21

At 1/22/06 02:33 PM, MetalWarriorFromHell wrote: I said NECESSARILY. In english, that means the "more money, more quality" philosophy doesn't work 100% of the time. I'm not saying more money is a bad thing, I'm just not saying it's the cure all panacaea. There's better ways of making good music than throwing money at it, and his sample just sounds like that, in my opinion. I listened to it once. Didn't remember a thing from it. Listened to it again. Same result. After 10 listens, I still wasn't hooked in. I guess it was just too boring for me.

I was actually more riding on the comment about "outsiders". Oh well, I listened to the song about three times and most of it is still stuck in my head.

btw, how would you classify my kind of production(on In Articulo Mortis) ?

and I'm downloading In Winter Lies The Warmth right now, thanks :)

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Effigy23
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 15:34:18

At 1/22/06 01:51 PM, MetalWarriorFromHell wrote:
shit. I like that kind of stuff. Well, I like opera electronica more, but I still LOVE opera metal. Or rather, blackened metal with a dude singing opera in the background. Yeah. I just don't like nu metal/metalcore. The only "metal" I don't like. The rest I love.

Hmm.. Sorry. I guess i shouldnt dis any metal. Especially in here. So i take it back, Its not shite. Just not to my tastes.

"There's only two things I hate in life, Hypocrites and people who quote themselves." - Me

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WillPostForFood
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 16:00:59

=] ive started a little death grind band with cows can bark(hes doing vocals) and im doing the rest.

http://www.soundclic..barbwireaspyhxiation

can i get some opinions? just go to the music section. ^__^

The names Food, WillPostForFood.

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Effigy23
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 16:31:08

Opinion: FUCKIN' awesome.

"There's only two things I hate in life, Hypocrites and people who quote themselves." - Me

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Goatchrist
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 16:36:49

At 1/22/06 04:00 PM, WillPostForFood wrote: can i get some opinions? just go to the music section. ^__^

Fun stuff! :D Neat work. Guys, where the hell do you get your drum machines? I want one like that too :P

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Goatchrist
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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 16:59:59

Ghoul, I just finished listening to In Winter Lies the Warmth, you definitely have some good moments, but what I've always been wondering about...what's with your drumming? You never keep a steady, catchy beat, I guess that's on purpose but it often just kills the atmosphere and feel of the songs....or the acoustic parts. They start to sound really good and suddenly it sounds like you made a mistake, didn't care for it and just played something slightly different, making it sound like weird, non-fitting tempo changes. And some of your songs just seem to be so long just for the sake of being so long. "Dreams Of When Light Shone Through" or "Grimness As Light Ebbs" for example, just don't keep me interested for a lot more than 20 minutes....

I do enjoy your vocal work and you can definitely play the guitar well, but your stuff just sounds too..."avant-garde?" to me? No bad feelings man, just not quite my cup of tea.

I'll give it a few more spins, though, maybe it'll grow on me some more.

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Response to Metal Hell 2006-01-22 17:02:44

mind if i join i like

avenged
bodom
kovenant (before industrial crap)
dimmu
cradle
decapitated
rammstein
otep
opeth
static (kinda)
nevermore
and more which i don't know right now

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