Ghoul, I just finished listening to In Winter Lies the Warmth, you definitely have some good moments, but what I've always been wondering about...what's with your drumming? You never keep a steady, catchy beat, I guess that's on purpose but it often just kills the atmosphere and feel of the songs....or the acoustic parts. They start to sound really good and suddenly it sounds like you made a mistake, didn't care for it and just played something slightly different, making it sound like weird, non-fitting tempo changes. And some of your songs just seem to be so long just for the sake of being so long. "Dreams Of When Light Shone Through" or "Grimness As Light Ebbs" for example, just don't keep me interested for a lot more than 20 minutes....

I do enjoy your vocal work and you can definitely play the guitar well, but your stuff just sounds too..."avant-garde?" to me? No bad feelings man, just not quite my cup of tea.

I'll give it a few more spins, though, maybe it'll grow on me some more.

mind if i join i like

avenged
bodom
kovenant (before industrial crap)
dimmu
cradle
decapitated
rammstein
otep
opeth
static (kinda)
nevermore
and more which i don't know right now

At 1/22/06 02:39 PM, Goatchrist wrote:

At 1/22/06 02:33 PM, MetalWarriorFromHell wrote: I said NECESSARILY. In english, that means the "more money, more quality" philosophy doesn't work 100% of the time. I'm not saying more money is a bad thing, I'm just not saying it's the cure all panacaea. There's better ways of making good music than throwing money at it, and his sample just sounds like that, in my opinion. I listened to it once. Didn't remember a thing from it. Listened to it again. Same result. After 10 listens, I still wasn't hooked in. I guess it was just too boring for me.

I was actually more riding on the comment about "outsiders". Oh well, I listened to the song about three times and most of it is still stuck in my head.

I guess it's just not my cup of tea; it sounds too fake to me.

btw, how would you classify my kind of production(on In Articulo Mortis) ?

Slightly organic, with a little touch of reverb, thus amplifying the central elements of the guitar. Grinding along with the drums, who are, though mixed low in the set, slightly anhydrous, with little nuances jumping out of the music, creating a panorama of sound from left to right, with no instrument occupying any part of the mix at one time or another.

and I'm downloading In Winter Lies The Warmth right now, thanks :)

And about the drums: At the time, my equipment was frustrating me. The "pops" you hear are when the equipment shorted out, (to my utter frustration) and I can accept that it's a bit too avante-garde to you. I knew when I made it it wouldn't be drawing a large audience. Every bit of music I make I try to make to how I want it, and sometimes that means alienating a giant segment of the population.

At 1/22/06 04:36 PM, Goatchrist wrote:

At 1/22/06 04:00 PM, WillPostForFood wrote: can i get some opinions? just go to the music section. ^__^

Fun stuff! :D Neat work. Guys, where the hell do you get your drum machines? I want one like that too :P

I don't use one. I have never heard a drum machine that could pass for a real drummer. I'm sorry (to everyone who uses em) but they always sound like robotic.

At 1/22/06 04:00 PM, WillPostForFood wrote: posted song

i admit the first quarter of the song was a little sloppy for my taste, but after that it kicked total ass. great drumming. semi-basic but quite passable guitar work as well.
rawk on

i was just listing the bands i have u like nun slaughter? coffing text? i have alooot of cds

At 1/22/06 05:02 PM, Bluesdrivemonster wrote: mind if i join i like

avenged

no

bodom

I don't like em, but they're cool

kovenant (before industrial crap)

ok

dimmu

only ancient

cradle

no, but it counts -_-

decapitated

boring, but it counts

rammstein

I love em, they don't :P

otep

noes!

opeth

I don't like em, but they're good

static (kinda)

nah

nevermore

no opinion

and more which i don't know right now

no idea, maybe you should list more bands

At 1/22/06 05:30 PM, X_AntiherO_X wrote:

At 1/22/06 04:00 PM, WillPostForFood wrote: posted song

i admit the first quarter of the song was a little sloppy for my taste, but after that it kicked total ass. great drumming. semi-basic but quite passable guitar work as well.
rawk on

The drums were from a drum machine.

At 1/22/06 05:55 PM, MetalWarriorFromHell wrote: The drums were from a drum machine.

and they can still rock ;)

At 1/22/06 05:55 PM, Goatchrist wrote:

At 1/22/06 05:55 PM, MetalWarriorFromHell wrote: The drums were from a drum machine.

and they can still rock ;)

Yes they can.

While I'm here, can I be a member?

At 1/22/06 06:07 PM, FlameMesial wrote: While I'm here, can I be a member?

List some of your favourite bands, please :)

At 1/22/06 06:28 PM, Goatchrist wrote:

At 1/22/06 06:07 PM, FlameMesial wrote: While I'm here, can I be a member?

List some of your favourite bands, please :)

dude! but that's flamemesial!
He might have said some nasty things about Manowar one day, but he's cool :P

At 1/22/06 06:57 PM, duffeknol wrote: dude! but that's flamemesial!
He might have said some nasty things about Manowar one day, but he's cool :P

I don't quite remember, to be honest :P

At 1/22/06 05:55 PM, MetalWarriorFromHell wrote:

The drums were from a drum machine.

lol sorry ghoul, but i consider myself just as much as a musician as anyone here, and i didnt think the drums sounded robotic. *shrugs*
although it does explain why they sounded semi-basic :D

btw, guys, any Bolt Thrower fans here? Favourite albums?

At 1/22/06 04:36 PM, Goatchrist wrote:

At 1/22/06 04:00 PM, WillPostForFood wrote: can i get some opinions? just go to the music section. ^__^

Fun stuff! :D Neat work. Guys, where the hell do you get your drum machines? I want one like that too :P

=] i use drum kit from hell 1. its a sample pack, then i use battery(a sampler) and acid(the host program).

i spent alot of time on the songs trying to get it sounding real tho, probaly the most time i ever spent on drums.

At 1/22/06 09:07 AM, X_Imperium_X wrote: *shies away from fighting*

I picked up "The Gallery" by Dark Tranquillity yesterday, as an early birthday present, and it kicketh major ass, my favorite of the pre-Projector era of thier work.

I'm glad people like my compilation. I think (if possible) that if GChrist and Ghoul could...erm...Work together on a track

I doubt it.... we did one track a ways back... our styles have just gotten to be progressively different, and I doubt we could come up with something good.

IDK, just wanted to throw that out there. Also, are we going to distribute and/or sell, or just post it up on the site? Because I think it would be quality enough for Ghoul to sell....

Hell, we could make it free, distribute it. Maybe we could sell it, IDK.

finally, we've got a nu metal crew on NG, maybe finally the 'omgf i liek kron and slipnot and KSE can i jion lol?' level here will drop now :)

At 1/23/06 04:49 AM, duffeknol wrote: finally, we've got a nu metal crew on NG, maybe finally the 'omgf i liek kron and slipnot and KSE can i jion lol?' level here will drop now :)

Yeah but some faggot keeps spamming bullshit and pictures of monkies

At 1/22/06 07:58 PM, MetalWarriorFromHell wrote: I doubt it.... we did one track a ways back... our styles have just gotten to be progressively different, and I doubt we could come up with something good.

Yeah, I think so too. It just wouldn't sound right.

Hell, we could make it free, distribute it. Maybe we could sell it, IDK.

Well, I'm all for free. Don't see a problem with that.

At 1/22/06 07:46 PM, Goatchrist wrote: btw, guys, any Bolt Thrower fans here? Favourite albums?

I don't have any of their albums, but from what I've heard of them rules.

At 1/22/06 07:46 PM, Goatchrist wrote: btw, guys, any Bolt Thrower fans here? Favourite albums?

I heard they resemble Hypocrisy a lot (which is very good), never got to listening to em. I think'll get 1 album soon, suggestions?

At 1/23/06 08:00 AM, duffeknol wrote:

At 1/22/06 07:46 PM, Goatchrist wrote: btw, guys, any Bolt Thrower fans here? Favourite albums?

I heard they resemble Hypocrisy a lot (which is very good), never got to listening to em. I think'll get 1 album soon, suggestions?

Here's an MP3 so you can hear them and see what you thinkzorz: http://www.metalbite..ide%20The%20Wire.mp3

At 1/23/06 08:43 AM, CowsCanBark wrote:

At 1/23/06 08:00 AM, duffeknol wrote:

At 1/22/06 07:46 PM, Goatchrist wrote: btw, guys, any Bolt Thrower fans here? Favourite albums?

I heard they resemble Hypocrisy a lot (which is very good), never got to listening to em. I think'll get 1 album soon, suggestions?

Here's an MP3 so you can hear them and see what you thinkzorz: http://www.metalbite..ide%20The%20Wire.mp3

I can't get the link to work, but I checked some at pandora.com.
Jup, everyone was right, they pwn and sound like hypocrisy, they win twice :D

Bolt Thrower and Hypocrisy? Where the heck do you find any similarities? :P

well, Hypocrisy, imo, has better guitar work than bolt thrower. any melody that bolt thrower has is usually repetitive.
i don't see how you could compare the two bands equally, but thats just me ;)

Suxx to be me i barely get a chance to post in forums lately :( Anyway bolt thrower and hypocrisy the same? Ahh i must be listenin to different bolt thrower and hypocrisy...to me they sound a lot different. Anyway fuck i need some opinions of my shit ass music, be honest please, but not too harsh hehe. The Two Year Old Pissdrinker Experience

I only realy make it because that stuff is EXACTLY what i like listening to, fuck anyone else lol.
Anyway, if ANYONE likes my stuff, it would be cool to be part of the compilation.

THIS THREAD IS MOVING TOO FAST! Please slow down I cant keep up to date X_X
About drumming machines, I dont like them AT ALL. There is a band named Gloomy Grim, that make some good Black Gothy-ish metal, with nice riffs and shit, but the only reason I cant stand them is the repetitif drum machine, that just ruins it all. I like human drumming, no matter if it can be unprecised and unperfect from time to time. My fav drummer is capricornus (graveland and others). He is not too precise, but he is powerful and very atmospheric, I have to agree with Ghoul that atmoshpere is already half of a song's worth.

Anyway, about Opera Metal.. I can love it or loathe it, depends on the quality. But some Therion shit kicks some serious ass, I have to admit.

And a last thing, most of the music memebers post here is very good! I am sure that compilation project will be a great success>>>!

At 1/23/06 12:25 PM, bred_4_abortion wrote: The Two Year Old Pissdrinker Experience

Damn that's interesting...to say the least.

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