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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-05 12:37:47


At 11/5/12 11:58 AM, Bahamut wrote: That would be hard if it was the only one around. This one I go to occasionally sadly plays nu-metal and metalcore but they can still play a lot of good music throughout the night. They even did play an Immortal song when I went with Abbath's corpse paint. Who knows, maybe I inspired the DJ.

Shame they only do nu metal and metalcore apart from that one exception. I wouldnt be able to stand it myself.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-05 16:30:30


....Well, my Metal Calender project has hit a little snag. My external hard drive's USB cable has broken, so now I can't access all my music or the blurbs I have written. So.....yeah. This could be a problem. I am currently researching how much a replacement cable will cost, but I might not be able to get one until later on, which could make my schedule royally fucked.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-05 19:52:38


At 11/3/12 10:16 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Oh, and Ponos, Oranssi Pazuzu only has one album, and it is fantastic.

Lie. They have two -- Kosmonument and their debut who's title is in finnish.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-06 01:19:29


Just wanted to ask you guys if you have any unpopular opinions about anything metal. I mean, anything that is highly popular in metal, anything that makes some kind of consenssus, or maybe anything that is liked a lot and that you don't like.

I'm going to name just a few I have.
I can't stand Slayer... I think they are fucking bad, corny, unintelligent and that their lyrical themes and aesthetics make me think about plastic pumkins.
Second is that Pantera are one of the most overated fuckin' band in metal. They are reponsible in part for the birth of chug-chug metalcore and groove metal, jump-the-fuck-up-nu-metal and even if Dimebag was a good lead guitarist, he was not and never will be one of the best guitarists in metal. I know in the Metal Hell that Pantera isn't deeply loved, but outside I've seen quite a lot of people showing way too much love for them.
I think Abigail Williams is a great band. Even their more "core" oriented material was pretty solid and innovative.
Alice Cooper isn't awesome and seems to be quite a dick.

I'll try to think of some more... It doesn't have to be about one band specificaly by the way. You can critize a genre or whatever.

Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-06 01:52:52


At 11/6/12 01:19 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Just wanted to ask you guys if you have any unpopular opinions about anything metal. I mean, anything that is highly popular in metal, anything that makes some kind of consenssus, or maybe anything that is liked a lot and that you don't like.

I'm going to name just a few I have.
I can't stand Slayer... I think they are fucking bad, corny, unintelligent and that their lyrical themes and aesthetics make me think about plastic pumkins.

Yeah Slayer is pretty damn overrated. Most of their riffs are super simple and Slayer themselves sloppily execute them still.

Second is that Pantera are one of the most overated fuckin' band in metal. They are reponsible in part for the birth of chug-chug metalcore and groove metal, jump-the-fuck-up-nu-metal and even if Dimebag was a good lead guitarist, he was not and never will be one of the best guitarists in metal. I know in the Metal Hell that Pantera isn't deeply loved, but outside I've seen quite a lot of people showing way too much love for them.

I have no love for Pantera. I have a little like for the Power Metal and parts of Cowboys but the rest of their discography is trying-too-hard fermented fecal blood.

I think Abigail Williams is a great band. Even their more "core" oriented material was pretty solid and innovative.

Predictably, I dislike their -core album, but their newer stuff is odd and atmospheric in a way. It's strange because I saw these fuckers change hella much. It's crazy.

Alice Cooper isn't awesome and seems to be quite a dick.

Alice Cooper bores the shit out of me.

I'll try to think of some more... It doesn't have to be about one band specificaly by the way. You can critize a genre or whatever.

1. Darkthrone are overrated. Transilvanian Hunger wasn't meant to be good at all, and was pretty much a practical joke pulled by fenriz along the same lines as farting into the mic.

2. Amesoeurs is actually pretty fuckin good. It has purists of all trades up in arms over mixing blatantly pop-influenced rock songs with black metal, but I feel it's a guilty pleasure of mine.

3. I hate to say it, but I've lost interest in Borknagar. Well, not the whole discography, but their newest two albums I have a slightly hard time appreciating. I hate to say it, but it feels like they're in a rut. After jumping around tremendously in both production and songwriting/themes over the course of their first 5 or 6 albums, Brun's staleness is starting to show. Origin was all right, but after that it seems Borknagar were intent on rerecording Epic and Empiricism. And, there is some claim to this merit. Master songwriter of Borknagar, Oystien Garnes Brun, is a well known introvert, and frequently uses introspective songwriting, and lists as part of his prime influence Borknagar's previous works. I understand this; he's trying to hone his craft, after all. But It seems like there's just less evolution than their previous burst of creativity.

4. I finally got a hold of both of Russian symphonic black metal band Sinful's first 2 albums -- XIII ÐпоÑÑ'ол (more recently) and their debut ÐzмÑfÑ'. While I still love ÐzмÑfÑ' and feel that's still the better one, XIII ÐпоÑÑ'ол has its merite -- they just seem to be more spread out and not quite so overwhelming in number. It's good, and has it's moments, and I give it a pretty solid several listens, but it does bode a questionable future. I wonder what the future holds for Sinful; it would be a pain if they took the road to mediocrity.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-06 08:32:55


At 11/5/12 12:37 PM, BumFodder wrote:
At 11/5/12 11:58 AM, Bahamut wrote: That would be hard if it was the only one around. This one I go to occasionally sadly plays nu-metal and metalcore but they can still play a lot of good music throughout the night. They even did play an Immortal song when I went with Abbath's corpse paint. Who knows, maybe I inspired the DJ.
Shame they only do nu metal and metalcore apart from that one exception. I wouldnt be able to stand it myself.

Nah, they play a lot more good music than you think. It's just you've got to prepare for that crap whenever you're there because there's bound to be something played.

At 11/5/12 04:30 PM, Zodir wrote: ....Well, my Metal Calender project has hit a little snag. My external hard drive's USB cable has broken, so now I can't access all my music or the blurbs I have written. So.....yeah. This could be a problem. I am currently researching how much a replacement cable will cost, but I might not be able to get one until later on, which could make my schedule royally fucked.

Aw man. Surely there's a way to get a replacement cable with ease. If it's easy to get power cable replacements then why not USB cables?

At 11/6/12 01:19 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Just wanted to ask you guys if you have any unpopular opinions about anything metal. I mean, anything that is highly popular in metal, anything that makes some kind of consenssus, or maybe anything that is liked a lot and that you don't like.

I can't get myself into most black/death metal bands. Does that cause a riot somewhere? :P

I can't stand Slayer... I think they are fucking bad, corny, unintelligent and that their lyrical themes and aesthetics make me think about plastic pumkins.

I dunno about you but Slayer seem easy to pick on. As much as I enjoy Reign in Blood, their albums really are hit and miss and that's considering what I've listened to which is basically everything up to Seasons in the Abyss.

Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-06 10:53:13


Can someone recommend me any female fronted Doom Metal?
I only have Acid King and Blood Ceremony at the moment....


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-06 13:37:33


I can understand why people wouldn't like Slayer (especially Diabolus in Musica and anything after that) but I really LOVE Show No Mercy, Haunting the Chapel, Hell Awaits, and Reign in Blood and I must say I enjoy Show No Mercy the most. I do enjoy parts of South of Heaven, Season In The Abyss, and Divine Intervention but I really never can listen to the whole album in one sitting. Then there is the CD called Undisputed Attitude which I haven't listened to but I know it's just them covering songs.

Pantera.... I have 4 of their CD's but I usually just end up playing the songs I like on each album. I have CFH, Vulgar Display of Power, Great Southern Trendkill, and Reinventing The Steel.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-06 16:11:07


Unpopular opinions? I have a few.

King Diamond is too all over the place for me to take most of his work seriously
Black metal is better with a good production,
Napalm Death improved after Lee Dorian's departure
Newer Emperor > Nightside Eclipse

Just to name a few. There's much more, and if I can remember a significant amount more, I'll post em'.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-06 16:13:12


Oh, and yeah, Show no Mercy and Hell Awaits get no love. They are awesome albums. The only two by them I consider consistently good.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-06 22:48:25


Alice Cooper a dick? I thought most people that have met him say he's a really nice guy.

At 11/5/12 07:52 PM, ElGhoulio wrote:
At 11/3/12 10:16 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Oh, and Ponos, Oranssi Pazuzu only has one album, and it is fantastic.
Lie. They have two -- Kosmonument and their debut who's title is in finnish.

Oh, I didn't realize. I have their debut. I love the song, Korppi.

At 11/6/12 04:11 PM, Tobi wrote: Black metal is better with a good production,

agreed.

Newer Emperor > Nightside Eclipse

I was gonna say that. In the Nightshade Eclipse is good, but I prefer Prometheus. I think Ihsahn's solo stuff is way better than anything Emperor has put out, though.

Also, later Mayhem is good.

Ephel Duath is good. A lot of people seem to hate them.

I think most power metal is boring, and even a lot of popular traditional heavy metal isn't as good as people say.

Till Fjalls is not the best Vintersorg album. It's either Solens Rotter or Cosmic Genesis. I'm gonna say Solens Rotter.

A lot of people seem to agree that Under Ein Blodraud Maane by Manes was a good album, but Vilosophe gets a lot of hate from metal fans. Yeah, it isn't metal, but it's still really good, especially Diving With Your Hands Bound.

I think some women are actually good at harsh vocals. Masha from Arkona is pretty good, and Priscilla Serrano was good when she was still in Sinners Bleed. It's too bad they never put out an album with her. Behind the Veil is a sick song.

Summoning isn't really all that great. Lugburz was good, but the rest of the albums are brought down because of the keyboards. They sound silly.

There actually is such a thing as good US black metal.

Korpiklaani is awesome. Or, at least Korpiklaani used to be awesome. And that goes especially for when you're getting drunk.

If it would mean that Mick Kenney would finally make another album under his Professor Fate project, I'd be totally fine with Anaal Nathrakh disbanding indefinitely.

Virus is better than Ved Buens Ende was (though VBE was great).

Avant garde metal > all other metal.

At 11/6/12 10:53 AM, Viper50 wrote: Can someone recommend me any female fronted Doom Metal?
I only have Acid King and Blood Ceremony at the moment....

I think the Third and the Mortal is fronted by a woman. I haven't heard their stuff, but one of the members has a project called the Soundbyte, which I absolutely love.

This is my favorite song by the Soundbyte.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-06 23:28:08


At 11/6/12 08:32 AM, Bahamut wrote: I can't get myself into most black/death metal bands. Does that cause a riot somewhere? :P

No, you were always the Heavy Metal/Doom Metal for me.

I dunno about you but Slayer seem easy to pick on. As much as I enjoy Reign in Blood, their albums really are hit and miss and that's considering what I've listened to which is basically everything up to Seasons in the Abyss.

Yeah well, I would go as far as to question why we want to consider them one of the most influential bands in metal.

At 11/6/12 10:53 AM, Viper50 wrote: Can someone recommend me any female fronted Doom Metal?
I only have Acid King and Blood Ceremony at the moment....

Does Death Doom counts ? If so, Thorr's Hammer was a great project. Too bad it didn't carry on. Try their EP named Dommedagsnatt if you feel like it. It's solid !

At 11/6/12 04:11 PM, Tobi wrote: Unpopular opinions? I have a few.

King Diamond is too all over the place for me to take most of his work seriously

I hate his solo work. It's cheesy and corny as fuck and lacks in every aspect that isn't the vocal.

Black metal is better with a good production,

>:( What is a good production ? Don't tell me Bergtatt was badly produced !

At 11/6/12 10:48 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Alice Cooper a dick? I thought most people that have met him say he's a really nice guy.

More like pretentious and contemptuous.

Ephel Duath is good. A lot of people seem to hate them.

I don't like them. Why name your band Ephel Duath if you are going to make absurd pseudo-intellectual wannabe avant-garde music ?

I think most power metal is boring, and even a lot of popular traditional heavy metal isn't as good as people say.

Agreed.

I think some women are actually good at harsh vocals. Masha from Arkona is pretty good, and Priscilla Serrano was good when she was still in Sinners Bleed. It's too bad they never put out an album with her. Behind the Veil is a sick song.

I believe that two :)

There actually is such a thing as good US black metal.

Agreed. They are catching up after all :)

Avant garde metal > all other metal.

Seing as how avant-garde is often mixed with other sub-genres, I could understand your preference. But avant-garde highly relies on what is produced on the black metal, death metal and doom metal scenes.

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Anyone listen to Pallbearer?

At 11/6/12 10:48 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:
At 11/6/12 10:53 AM, Viper50 wrote: Can someone recommend me any female fronted Doom Metal?
I only have Acid King and Blood Ceremony at the moment....
I think the Third and the Mortal is fronted by a woman. I haven't heard their stuff, but one of the members has a project called the Soundbyte, which I absolutely love.

This is my favorite song by the Soundbyte.

I'll be sure to look them up. Also I don't know why but Avant-Garde has never really been my forte when it comes to metal music. Not say I dont like it, but I'm more of a Doom/Stoner/Black/Prog./Sludge Metal person....
Although I DO like that particular song.

At 11/6/12 11:28 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
At 11/6/12 10:53 AM, Viper50 wrote: Can someone recommend me any female fronted Doom Metal?
I only have Acid King and Blood Ceremony at the moment....
Does Death Doom counts ? If so, Thorr's Hammer was a great project. Too bad it didn't carry on. Try their EP named Dommedagsnatt if you feel like it. It's solid !

I suppose so. Although I have been looking for stuff by them for awhile but for some ODD reason I can't seem to find anything. Which irritates me to no end....I'll look some more after I finish listening to Twilight Of The Gods.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-07 00:37:31


At 11/6/12 11:28 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I don't like them. Why name your band Ephel Duath if you are going to make absurd pseudo-intellectual wannabe avant-garde music ?

I remember you criticizing them. I don't think they're pretentious. They're just odd, and definitely an acquired taste. I know Idio likes them, too. And Phormula was a lot less bizarre than the later stuff like Through My Dog's Eyes. Ephel Duath took a while to grow on me. I hated them at first, but I'm glad I gave them another chance. I see their stuff to sort of be like the Weasels Ripped My Flesh of the metal world. abrasive and tough on the ears, sure, but not without creative merit.

Seing as how avant-garde is often mixed with other sub-genres, I could understand your preference. But avant-garde highly relies on what is produced on the black metal, death metal and doom metal scenes.

This is true, especially with black metal. I don't know about doom, though. I can't think of much other than Aarni. Kayo Dot and early Maudlin of the Well did have roots in sludge. Though there are some projects that defy precise classification. La Masquerade Infernale and the Sham Mirrors were both albums that did that. Obviously, though, Aspera Hiems Symfonia had a definite symphonic black metal sound. And when you're comparing avant garde metal bands, it's pretty rare for any two bands to sound the same unless one band is intentionally emulating another. For example, Vulture Industries is definitely inspired by Arcturus, and Smile Carved sour is total Ved Buens Ende worship.

Speaking of Arcturus, I really wish Garm would do another album with them with Vortex doing backup vocals. That would be sweet, especially if Oyvind Haegland and Ihsahn did guest performances. Or maybe he could collaborate with Ihsahn for a whole metal album. I'd love that.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-07 01:23:04


At 11/6/12 10:53 AM, Viper50 wrote: Can someone recommend me any female fronted Doom Metal?
I only have Acid King and Blood Ceremony at the moment....

I'm not sure how fans of Doom Metal feel about Gothic Doom Metal, but if you don't mind the Goth I would recommend Draconian.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-07 03:11:10


Oh, another good female fronted doom project is Ava Inferi. Blasphemer from Mayhem is the guitarist.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-07 15:26:21


At 11/7/12 01:23 AM, Tremulos wrote:
At 11/6/12 10:53 AM, Viper50 wrote: Can someone recommend me any female fronted Doom Metal?
I only have Acid King and Blood Ceremony at the moment....
I'm not sure how fans of Doom Metal feel about Gothic Doom Metal, but if you don't mind the Goth I would recommend Draconian.

I'm generally okay with all subgenres of Doom Metal. Although for some reason I can't get as into Funeral Doom as I can with others....I'll be sure to look them up as well though. I have a list of other bands to look up as well but I'll probably start with the ones I was recommended last night and today first.

At 11/7/12 03:11 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: Oh, another good female fronted doom project is Ava Inferi. Blasphemer from Mayhem is the guitarist.

I'll be sure to look them up as well. Liking the fact Blasphemer is in there too.

While on the topic of Black Metal stuff.
Can anyone recommend me any Immortal? Because I just have Sons Of Northern Darkness at the moment.....


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-07 16:12:49


At 11/7/12 03:26 PM, Viper50 wrote:
At 11/7/12 03:11 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: Oh, another good female fronted doom project is Ava Inferi. Blasphemer from Mayhem is the guitarist.
I'll be sure to look them up as well. Liking the fact Blasphemer is in there too.

While on the topic of Black Metal stuff.
Can anyone recommend me any Immortal? Because I just have Sons Of Northern Darkness at the moment.....

Pretty much any Immortal album rocks, but I really like At the Heart of Winter, Damned in Black, and Pure Holocaust.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-07 16:29:33


At 11/7/12 12:37 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: I remember you criticizing them. I don't think they're pretentious. They're just odd, and definitely an acquired taste. I know Idio likes them, too. And Phormula was a lot less bizarre than the later stuff like Through My Dog's Eyes. Ephel Duath took a while to grow on me. I hated them at first, but I'm glad I gave them another chance. I see their stuff to sort of be like the Weasels Ripped My Flesh of the metal world. abrasive and tough on the ears, sure, but not without creative merit.

I only listened to Through My Dog's Eyes only and didn't like it. I'll give them another listen for sure, maybe I judged to quick.

This is true, especially with black metal. I don't know about doom, though. I can't think of much other than Aarni. Kayo Dot and early Maudlin of the Well did have roots in sludge. Though there are some projects that defy precise classification. La Masquerade Infernale and the Sham Mirrors were both albums that did that. Obviously, though, Aspera Hiems Symfonia had a definite symphonic black metal sound. And when you're comparing avant garde metal bands, it's pretty rare for any two bands to sound the same unless one band is intentionally emulating another. For example, Vulture Industries is definitely inspired by Arcturus, and Smile Carved sour is total Ved Buens Ende worship.

I've always seen Arcturus as an Avant-garde band with a lot of black metal and maybe some post-metal elements. Why do you say they are though to classify ?

Speaking of Arcturus, I really wish Garm would do another album with them with Vortex doing backup vocals. That would be sweet, especially if Oyvind Haegland and Ihsahn did guest performances. Or maybe he could collaborate with Ihsahn for a whole metal album. I'd love that.

Yes, In fact it would be awesome to have Garm release anything with a metal band again. I don't know why but it seems that Garm wants to leave metal behind. Like if he had a bad experience with the genre or maybe he felt it was limited or something and felt the need to move forward toward another genre. His personal label does release metal material so it canâEUTMt be that he dislikes metal in general. I love his electronic work however, that's not a critic toward his newer material. But leave metal behind altogether ? Not such a good choice !

At 11/7/12 03:26 PM, Viper50 wrote: While on the topic of Black Metal stuff.
Can anyone recommend me any Immortal? Because I just have Sons Of Northern Darkness at the moment.....

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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-07 18:18:44


At 11/7/12 04:29 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Blizzard Beasts
At the Heart of Winter
Damned in Black

Don't forgot Pure Holocaust mange.

Duff, when I said "good production", I was speaking relatively. I should have said "well produced" really. As in, it feels completed, rather than slapped on to an album. Bergtatt is well produced, even though it's obviously lo-fi, they worked their odds and ends.

Also, do you guys really consider avant-garde metal a genre?


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-07 18:47:16


At 11/7/12 06:18 PM, Tobi wrote: Duff, when I said "good production", I was speaking relatively. I should have said "well produced" really. As in, it feels completed, rather than slapped on to an album. Bergtatt is well produced, even though it's obviously lo-fi, they worked their odds and ends.

Ok, I know what you mean :) Shitty production for the sake of being shitty is pointless. It doesn't achive anything artisticaly and it's not any better than the standard Mr.Net production all the shitty pop artists have nowadays

Also, do you guys really consider avant-garde metal a genre?

It's complicated. I use avant-garde to talk about bands that really step out of the genre boundaries. But mixing genres isn't enough to be avant-garde. Bands like Thorr's Hammer are Death/Doom, bands like Ulver made Black/Folk and Benighted in their early days made Black/Death. Those aren't avant-garde bands. Avant-garde to me means that it's a transcending of genres, but not in the way that Post-Metal transcends the genre. Yeah... it's complicated. Usually it means taking various genres at some kind of connection that isn't somewhere between these two or three genres, but rather above these two or three genres. So bands like Sigh didn't just take Black, Thrash and Rock together, they pushed the limits of these genres skyhigh. This is my idea of avant-garde. It isn't a genre though.

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Good times seeing Motorhead and Anthrax last night! I was almost disappointed with Motorhead's setlist but then they play Orgasmatron so my night was easily made.

At 11/6/12 11:28 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
At 11/6/12 08:32 AM, Bahamut wrote: I can't get myself into most black/death metal bands. Does that cause a riot somewhere? :P
No, you were always the Heavy Metal/Doom Metal for me.

And power? Then again, I can be rather critical to a lot of underground power metal bands, mostly when they show very little character and inspiration to their music.

I dunno about you but Slayer seem easy to pick on. As much as I enjoy Reign in Blood, their albums really are hit and miss and that's considering what I've listened to which is basically everything up to Seasons in the Abyss.
Yeah well, I would go as far as to question why we want to consider them one of the most influential bands in metal.

All because of the big four of thrash name.

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At 11/7/12 07:20 PM, Bahamut wrote:

:: : : I dunno about you but Slayer seem easy to pick on. As much as I enjoy Reign in Blood, their albums really are hit and miss and that's considering what I've listened to which is basically everything up to Seasons in the Abyss.


Yeah well, I would go as far as to question why we want to consider them one of the most influential bands in metal.
All because of the big four of thrash name.

I would say Slayer is one of the most influential bands in metal. Due to their exposure, it caused a lot of bands to try and emulate their style a little. Lot's of early death metal bands cited them as an influence. Being influential=/=being talented.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-07 19:54:45


At 11/7/12 07:20 PM, Bahamut wrote: And power? Then again, I can be rather critical to a lot of underground power metal bands, mostly when they show very little character and inspiration to their music.

I didn't question that. But I'm not surprised you don't like most black or death metal, that's what I meant. And yes, Power Metal guy two :P

All because of the big four of thrash name.

Yeah

At 11/7/12 07:50 PM, Zodir wrote: I would say Slayer is one of the most influential bands in metal. Due to their exposure, it caused a lot of bands to try and emulate their style a little. Lot's of early death metal bands cited them as an influence. Being influential=/=being talented.

Maybe that's cause I'm not a musician, but I don't ear much influences of them in other metal bands. At least not the good ones. Care to name a few bands who said they were inspired by them ?

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At 11/7/12 07:54 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
At 11/7/12 07:50 PM, Zodir wrote: I would say Slayer is one of the most influential bands in metal. Due to their exposure, it caused a lot of bands to try and emulate their style a little. Lot's of early death metal bands cited them as an influence. Being influential=/=being talented.
Maybe that's cause I'm not a musician, but I don't ear much influences of them in other metal bands. At least not the good ones. Care to name a few bands who said they were inspired by them ?

I know Richard Christy (who played with Death and Iced Earth) said that Slayer was a pretty big influence on him. Pete Sondaval of Morbid Angel said similar things (specifically Dave Lombardo's style of drumming). And I think the guy from At the Gates said something but I am not sure. And I know the guys from Cannibal Corpse said that Slayer was one of their biggest early influences.


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Look what I got by mail earlier today :) (Not the Rubik's cube, lawl)

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At 11/7/12 04:29 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I've always seen Arcturus as an Avant-garde band with a lot of black metal

Their early stuff had a black metal sound. Other than that, there was just Radical Cut on the Sham Mirrors, which featured Ihsahn as the vocalist.

Yes, In fact it would be awesome to have Garm release anything with a metal band again.

Yeah, as far as metal, he just occasionally does guest performances now.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-07 20:25:59


At 11/7/12 07:54 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Maybe that's cause I'm not a musician, but I don't ear much influences of them in other metal bands. At least not the good ones. Care to name a few bands who said they were inspired by them ?

It would be harder to name a band that wasn't influenced by Slayer. Their first album and Haunting the Chapel EP were heavily influential to black metal (listen to Bathory, and you'll find they borrowed quite a few riffs). The second album seems to be popular among the early death metal bands. And of course there's Reign in Blood, which you would have to be mad to deny it's influence, regardless of your opinion of it.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-07 20:29:19


At 11/7/12 08:08 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Look what I got by mail earlier today :) (Not the Rubik's cube, lawl)

I REALLY need to get more patches and junk...seriously the only ones I have are two Metallica patches I got for like 25 cents ._.

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Response to Metal Hell 2012-11-07 20:33:23


At 11/7/12 08:08 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Look what I got by mail earlier today :) (Not the Rubik's cube, lawl)

The only metal memorobillia I have are the shirts I bought at concerts. My Megadeth Peace Sells 25th Anniversery tour shirt, a Slayer tour shirt, and my Iron Maiden Maiden England tour shirt.


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