At 7/31/12 05:38 AM, Bahamut wrote: Oh no, I haven't even jumped that far yet but I will want to check out Ashes Against the Grain sooner than later. On the other hand, it's a good idea to embrace The Mantle as much as possible before moving on.

Oh definitely. But a fun thing you could have did would have been to start with their very first album and followed their discography in chronological order to get the best feeling of their evolution. But since all their albums are great, it really doesn't matter. I'm happy you are enjoying The Mantle so far. Tell me when you get any other of their releases so we can discuss it :)

At 7/31/12 01:29 PM, AniMetal wrote: Agalloch's setlist when I saw them:

01. Limbs
02. Ghosts of the Midwinter Fires
03. Faustian Echoes
04. Our Fortress Is Burning... I
05. Our Fortress is Burning... II: Bloodbirds
06. Of Stone, Wind, and Pillor
07. As Embers Dress the Sky
08. Hallways of Enchanted Ebony
09. You Were But a Ghost in My Arms
10. In the Shadow of Our Pale Companion
11. Kneel to the Cross
ENCORE:
12. Falling Snow

Exactly the same as in Montreal. But you guys didn't see them play In The Shadow of Our Pale Companion with Nathanael Larochette from Musk Ox.

I can't help but think that Agalloch should play some of their Drone stuff live. I don't know if it was the same at your show, but Taurus didn't get a very good reception from the crowd in Montreal. There was a few people who liked it a lot, or found it interresting, like I did. But I heard negative opinions on their set... and I can't help but feel that a lot of Agalloch fans are dumb and only like them for very superficial reasons.

I see two kinds of Agalloch fans. The one who are deeply in love with the way they master over 10 different genres and manage to mix elements from all the genres in a perfect blend... and there are the melo-kids who like them because they are melodic, sometimes smoother and relaxing but heavy. The melo-kids do not understand how important drone is in Agalloch's sound. It may not be obvious to them, but Drone is all about heavyness, sound experimentation, atmosphere and build-ups. I was disapointed by the fan's reaction to Taurus, because it shows how little they understand about Agalloch's music...

At 8/2/12 12:54 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 7/31/12 05:38 AM, Bahamut wrote: Oh no, I haven't even jumped that far yet but I will want to check out Ashes Against the Grain sooner than later. On the other hand, it's a good idea to embrace The Mantle as much as possible before moving on.

Oh definitely. But a fun thing you could have did would have been to start with their very first album and followed their discography in chronological order to get the best feeling of their evolution. But since all their albums are great, it really doesn't matter. I'm happy you are enjoying The Mantle so far. Tell me when you get any other of their releases so we can discuss it :)

I've done that particular order with King Crimson. Well, up until Larks' Tongues in Aspic since I really wanted to get Red. Not to worry, I will eventually get Starless and Bible Black from them. It just helps doing that with King Crimson since you will most likely be exposed to the debut album at first and then you'll want to hear In the Wake of Poseidon for more Greg Lake. Maybe afterwards you'll then check out Lizard to see how they managed without him and I tell you, the band lived strong even from there. I don't know how much King Crimson you know but if you've yet to hear Cirkus, then you'll soon find out more from them beyond the debut album.

As for Agalloch, considering their small discography, it would have been easy to start from the beginning. However, would the debut album be the best Agalloch gateway album? I was familiar with A Desolation Song a few years back, actually so after hearing it online recently again, I knew The Mantle was the best option.

At 8/1/12 07:28 PM, Bahamut wrote: Only now I discover a band called Hexenhaus, a swedish thrash metal band from the 80s. I shat myself when I saw the album cover for A Tribute to Insanity.

Whoa. That's pretty mindblowing. Is there stuff any good besides the fact that their cover is identical (and predating) to Morbid Angel's Blessed Are the Sick?

So how is everyone's year of metal going? So far, my favorites I've heard this year are:
High on Fire's De Vermis Mysteriis
Kreator's Phantom Antichrist
Meshuggah's Koloss
Primal Fear's Unbreakable
Sigh's In Somniphobia
Vintersorg's Orkan (Might be my album of the year [at least right now])

I'm looking forward to hearing Testament's new album, Time, Voivod's new one, Ensiferum's new one, Ex Deo's Caligula, Ghost's new album, and Darkane's rumored new album. I still need to pick up Gojira's new one, have heard good things about it.

At 8/2/12 11:07 PM, Zodir wrote: So how is everyone's year of metal going? So far, my favorites I've heard this year are:

As much as I hate to say it I haven't gotten around to listening to much new metal so far this year. Pretty much all ive listened to was: De Vermis Mysteriis, a few songs off of Testament's new album, a few songs from Gojira's new album, Yellow & Green (found out there was something up with the shipping so my copy wont be arriving for a bit), and various tid bits of other albums. All in all im ashamed of myself for not listening to more stuff xD
Hell I got fucking...Jack White's new album, but hes the furthest thing from metal.

Ghost's new album

Ghost is bringing out a new album? That either totally went under the radar for me or my memory is going and i completely forgot about it.

At 8/2/12 11:07 PM, Zodir wrote:

At 8/1/12 07:28 PM, Bahamut wrote: Only now I discover a band called Hexenhaus, a swedish thrash metal band from the 80s. I shat myself when I saw the album cover for A Tribute to Insanity.

Whoa. That's pretty mindblowing. Is there stuff any good besides the fact that their cover is identical (and predating) to Morbid Angel's Blessed Are the Sick?

The one song I heard was alright.

So how is everyone's year of metal going? So far, my favorites I've heard this year are:

It's not been so good for me this year but I'm hoping this month is where it takes a huge turn. Otherwise this year has been a real disappointment but so has 2012 as a whole.

At 8/1/12 03:31 AM, PenisClown wrote:

At 7/27/12 03:28 AM, ElGhoulio wrote: Just got back from a local power metal show with my girlfriend, Melissa.

Instantly I hear "MELISSAAAAAAA" in the voice of King Diamond. Damn Ghoulio you can pick em! You shall always remain the man haha.

She, her brother, my friend JD, and I are going to see Iron Maiden tonight. Looking forward to that. As well, both her family likes me and my family likes her. I've never been happier with a woman before.

I've just discovered how funny Ozzy is in the Osbournes.

Late.

Oh, and this isn't metal related, but it's good news nonetheless. I got a job yesterday being a marketing consultant for a grassroots marketing firm. I earn 17.33 an hour plus commission. I get paid to talk. I love life right now. I think I'm gonna buy a new stack and a fender to go with it. Yahoo people.

At 8/3/12 11:53 AM, ElGhoulio wrote:

Oh, and this isn't metal related, but it's good news nonetheless. I got a job yesterday being a marketing consultant for a grassroots marketing firm. I earn 17.33 an hour plus commission. I get paid to talk. I love life right now. I think I'm gonna buy a new stack and a fender to go with it. Yahoo people.

Oh, and the name of the firm is D.J. Ent, inc. For those who don't see the humor in that, Djent is a style of metal/hardcore akin to Meshuggah. I'm pretty sure they don't realize the accidental reference, but it's a little laugh I keep to myself.

I fucking love Marrow of the Spirit so fucking much

that is all

Got back from Iron Maiden early this morning. The opening band sucked (Coheed and Cambria) and were a bunch of overweight scenefags. The C&C fans looked like a bunch of faggery daggery doo scene idiots.

But Iron Maiden slaughtered everything. We got not one, but TWO eddies (One was from The Trooper, the other was from the cover of Seventh Son with an animatronic baby inside the embryo) and they played a 2.5 hour set.

Picked up a total of 25 vinyls today. Each of them were $1 so i ended up spending $25 today. Granted only a few of them are "metal" I'm still happy with what I got.
I got: ZZ Top - Eliminator, Van Halen - 1984, The Beatles - Abbey Road, Rubber Soul, and Sergeant Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band, Steppenwolf - Born To Be Wild, Don McLean - American Pie, Crosby Stills Nash and Young - Deja Vu, Led Zeppelin - Coda, 2 Ringo Starr albums, Yes - Yessongs, John Lennon - Rock N Roll, 2 Beach Boys, 2 Herman's Hermits, Eagles - Hotel California, some album by the Jackson 5, and what I thought was Cream Disraeli Gears but it didn't have the right vinyl in it. The other 5 vinyls were 45 rpms and I don't feel like going to get them at the moment...

At 8/2/12 09:47 AM, Bahamut wrote: I've done that particular order with King Crimson. Well, up until Larks' Tongues in Aspic since I really wanted to get Red. Not to worry, I will eventually get Starless and Bible Black from them. It just helps doing that with King Crimson since you will most likely be exposed to the debut album at first and then you'll want to hear In the Wake of Poseidon for more Greg Lake. Maybe afterwards you'll then check out Lizard to see how they managed without him and I tell you, the band lived strong even from there. I don't know how much King Crimson you know but if you've yet to hear Cirkus, then you'll soon find out more from them beyond the debut album.

Only King Crimson album I have right now is In the Wake of Poseidon, which is a Greg Lake album. And honestly, the first reason why I looked into King Crimson was because of Tony Levin. That just tells you how lost I got :P I still haven't heard anything by Levin with King Crimson, yet I really like In the Wake of Poseidon.

As for Agalloch, considering their small discography, it would have been easy to start from the beginning. However, would the debut album be the best Agalloch gateway album? I was familiar with A Desolation Song a few years back, actually so after hearing it online recently again, I knew The Mantle was the best option.

The only album by Agalloch I could ever consider as "less accessible" would be Marrow Of The Spirit, because of the more agressive elements of black metal they have added to their music and the quality of the sound production. Pale Folklore while it mixes black metal and folk metal, isn't like Marrow Of The Spirit. I often compare Pale Folklore to the first Ulver's album, Bergtatt. I have said before that only Agalloch managed to do something in the vein of Ulver's very first album. It would have been, like all Agalloch's albums, a good place to start. But The Mantle isn't a worst choice by any means.

At 8/2/12 11:07 PM, Zodir wrote: So how is everyone's year of metal going? So far, my favorites I've heard this year are:
High on Fire's De Vermis Mysteriis
Kreator's Phantom Antichrist
Meshuggah's Koloss
Primal Fear's Unbreakable
Sigh's In Somniphobia
Vintersorg's Orkan (Might be my album of the year [at least right now])

I only picked up three albums from 2012 so far :

Abigail Williams - Becoming
Alcest - Les Voyages de l'Ã'me
Agalloch - Faustian Echoes

Next album I'm going to pick up will be by an artist who's name will start with the letter b, I swear :P. Abigail Williams and Agalloch's albums are both very good, while Alcest's album is somewhere between decent and good. I like some songs, but it's generaly not as good as Souvenirs d'un autre monde was.

At 8/4/12 02:45 PM, CoCo wrote: I fucking love Marrow of the Spirit so fucking much

that is all

I approove this message.

At 8/4/12 03:16 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: Got back from Iron Maiden early this morning. The opening band sucked (Coheed and Cambria) and were a bunch of overweight scenefags. The C&C fans looked like a bunch of faggery daggery doo scene idiots.

Maiden aren't the best when it comes to choice of support acts. However, I expected America to get better support acts than we get. What did we have for The Final Frontier tour? Airbourne with one show with DragonForce and Trivium each. Yeah, not a good range there.

But Iron Maiden slaughtered everything. We got not one, but TWO eddies (One was from The Trooper, the other was from the cover of Seventh Son with an animatronic baby inside the embryo) and they played a 2.5 hour set.

Holy shit! Typically you'd only see one Eddie so your show got really spoiled.

At 8/5/12 01:02 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 8/2/12 09:47 AM, Bahamut wrote: I've done that particular order with King Crimson. Well, up until Larks' Tongues in Aspic since I really wanted to get Red. Not to worry, I will eventually get Starless and Bible Black from them. It just helps doing that with King Crimson since you will most likely be exposed to the debut album at first and then you'll want to hear In the Wake of Poseidon for more Greg Lake. Maybe afterwards you'll then check out Lizard to see how they managed without him and I tell you, the band lived strong even from there. I don't know how much King Crimson you know but if you've yet to hear Cirkus, then you'll soon find out more from them beyond the debut album.

Only King Crimson album I have right now is In the Wake of Poseidon, which is a Greg Lake album. And honestly, the first reason why I looked into King Crimson was because of Tony Levin. That just tells you how lost I got :P I still haven't heard anything by Levin with King Crimson, yet I really like In the Wake of Poseidon.

You still have a lot of amazing works to check out from them. Then again, so do I as I have six of their albums and should get the rest.

The only album by Agalloch I could ever consider as "less accessible" would be Marrow Of The Spirit, because of the more agressive elements of black metal they have added to their music and the quality of the sound production.

I did try Marrow of the Spirit ages ago but found it to be a bit of a heavy listening. I'll eventually pick it up again but maybe at the time I wasn't in the right mood to listen to it.

At 8/5/12 09:26 AM, Bahamut wrote:

At 8/4/12 03:16 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: Got back from Iron Maiden early this morning. The opening band sucked (Coheed and Cambria) and were a bunch of overweight scenefags. The C&C fans looked like a bunch of faggery daggery doo scene idiots.

Maiden aren't the best when it comes to choice of support acts. However, I expected America to get better support acts than we get. What did we have for The Final Frontier tour? Airbourne with one show with DragonForce and Trivium each. Yeah, not a good range there.

For the Final Frontier tour we got Dream Theater. I like DT, but they had a shitty set, with lots of stuff from their newer albums and lots of their short stuff. Frankly, I'd be more impressed if they did fewer but longer songs, and I would've liked to hear more than just ONE song from their Kevin Moar days.

But Iron Maiden slaughtered everything. We got not one, but TWO eddies (One was from The Trooper, the other was from the cover of Seventh Son with an animatronic baby inside the embryo) and they played a 2.5 hour set.

Holy shit! Typically you'd only see one Eddie so your show got really spoiled.

Yeah, although the "icebergs" looked way less real than they did on their original Maiden England tour, we got a whole lot of fire, sparks, and lights, and, of course, TWO FUCKEN EDDIES BIATCH. There was also a MASSIVE pit right behind me that I would've joined if I didn't have a foot with busted ligaments.

Hordalands Doedskvad. Because Taake makes the best black metal ever.

Taake - Hordalands Doedskvad Part VII

Samples for Devin Townsend's Epicloud

Somehow I had expected this to be rather mellow but the name EPICLOUD should have made it obvious enough what his new album will be like. Certainly looking forward to what Devin crafts from everything here.

woo my Yellow & Green and Dopesmoker finally arrived

At 8/6/12 11:32 AM, Viper50 wrote: woo my Yellow & Green and Dopesmoker finally arrived

Hows Yellow and Green? I only heard 1 song so far off Green.

At 8/6/12 03:04 PM, Anti-pie wrote:

At 8/6/12 11:32 AM, Viper50 wrote: woo my Yellow & Green and Dopesmoker finally arrived

Hows Yellow and Green? I only heard 1 song so far off Green.

I actually really like it. Granted like i said before when i put up the link for when it was streaming on NPR a bit before it was released that I felt it wasn't "heavy enough" I somewhat take that back. I mean yeah it has its low points here and there but overall its a great album. I mean I wouldn't say its their best album but its still pretty good. Hell im already on my third time through listening to it.

Duff, the fact you haven't heard the Levin-Crimson material is maddening. Undo your sin, lest Fripp cross-pick you with a shiv.

popping in briefly
been real busy..lot of new music and words popping out of out of my head and fingers
as i mentioned a page ago i'm now the vocalist for Infinite Torture..the US version not to be confused with the porno metal from India.
the demo is on sale now..100 cassettes and 33 cdrs in a slim case
my first official vocal release in about 20 years
$3 american for cassette if act quick and ask me for one
otherwise it's 5 euros for cassette and 6 euros for cd-r from the label itself
anyone want a copy let me know...going pretty quickly i'm happy to say
around $3 american for shipping..may vary upon location and how shipped
hell yeah..not a bad way to start a comeback
see ya soon
Keep it HEAVY
peace

At 8/6/12 10:26 PM, BillPatton wrote: popping in briefly
been real busy..lot of new music and words popping out of out of my head and fingers
as i mentioned a page ago i'm now the vocalist for Infinite Torture..the US version not to be confused with the porno metal from India.
the demo is on sale now..100 cassettes and 33 cdrs in a slim case
my first official vocal release in about 20 years
$3 american for cassette if act quick and ask me for one
otherwise it's 5 euros for cassette and 6 euros for cd-r from the label itself
anyone want a copy let me know...going pretty quickly i'm happy to say
around $3 american for shipping..may vary upon location and how shipped
hell yeah..not a bad way to start a comeback
see ya soon
Keep it HEAVY
peace

Quick question on that.
If say someone here (not necessarily me) were to want to buy one of those how and where would we send payment for it?
I know it's probably a stupid question, but I felt like asking anyways.

Dethklok is apparently done and working on getting dethalbum 3 out. Brendon small also has previews of his new album, its pretty cool, not strictly death metal.

At 8/7/12 01:16 AM, TheSporkLord wrote: Dethklok is apparently done and working on getting dethalbum 3 out. Brendon small also has previews of his new album, its pretty cool, not strictly death metal.

Actually, not sure about dethalbum 3 being finished. Damn internet rumors.

At 8/7/12 01:16 AM, TheSporkLord wrote: Dethklok is apparently done and working on getting dethalbum 3 out. Brendon small also has previews of his new album, its pretty cool, not strictly death metal.

People actually listen to Dethklok ?...

At 8/7/12 02:23 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 8/7/12 01:16 AM, TheSporkLord wrote: Dethklok is apparently done and working on getting dethalbum 3 out. Brendon small also has previews of his new album, its pretty cool, not strictly death metal.

People actually listen to Dethklok ?...

Yeah. Dethalbum II is actually a really solid melodeath album, and Dethalbum I has a couple really good songs. While I know they are a "joke" band, they do produce some solid material.

Devin just amazes me with a music video like this!

Why go all the way to make those boring generic videos when all you need to do is simply dance in your back garden? :P Also, I love Korpiklaani now thanks to them covering THIS!

At 8/6/12 04:48 PM, Tobi wrote: Duff, the fact you haven't heard the Levin-Crimson material is maddening. Undo your sin, lest Fripp cross-pick you with a shiv.

I'm surprised you didn't harp on me to listen to this. The furthest I've gone with King Crimson right now is Red but I do want to get all their albums.

At 8/7/12 09:06 AM, Zodir wrote: Yeah. Dethalbum II is actually a really solid melodeath album, and Dethalbum I has a couple really good songs. While I know they are a "joke" band, they do produce some solid material.

Really, what's wrong with having a laugh once in a while? Dethklok/Metalocalypse at least do that for my metal needs. I'm glad we can have some fun bands in metal once in a while.

At 8/7/12 09:32 AM, Bahamut wrote:

At 8/7/12 09:06 AM, Zodir wrote: Yeah. Dethalbum II is actually a really solid melodeath album, and Dethalbum I has a couple really good songs. While I know they are a "joke" band, they do produce some solid material.

Really, what's wrong with having a laugh once in a while? Dethklok/Metalocalypse at least do that for my metal needs. I'm glad we can have some fun bands in metal once in a while.

I actually like metalocalypse, but I find the music to be quite generic and boring. The show is funny as hell (especially when Toki beats the dude to death and Dr. Rockso says "I'm B-B-B-B-BACK, BABE!" but the music is just eh.

At 8/7/12 09:32 AM, Bahamut wrote: Really, what's wrong with having a laugh once in a while? Dethklok/Metalocalypse at least do that for my metal needs. I'm glad we can have some fun bands in metal once in a while.

The fact that Dethklok chooses to do it with Melodeath is funny enough, though. For my humoristic metal needs I have Ultra Vomit and Crotchduster, which are both superior to Dethklok in terms of quality song-writting and humor.

At 8/7/12 02:28 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 8/7/12 09:32 AM, Bahamut wrote: Really, what's wrong with having a laugh once in a while? Dethklok/Metalocalypse at least do that for my metal needs. I'm glad we can have some fun bands in metal once in a while.

The fact that Dethklok chooses to do it with Melodeath is funny enough, though. For my humoristic metal needs I have Ultra Vomit and Crotchduster, which are both superior to Dethklok in terms of quality song-writting and humor.

Well we can't all be elitist hipster fags like you, Duff.

God this is why I left. I'm outta here. Again.

I fucking love Metal nothing can compare to its pure awesomeness \m/. I'll join this club.y favorite bands are Metallica, Slipknot, Avenged Sevenfold, Bullet For My Valentine, As I lay Dying, Slayer, and many other bands.