At 7/16/12 10:02 PM, Tobi wrote: So guys, I met this girl a few days ago. She doesn't have a computer, and she is in to a lot of deathcore, stuff like We Came As Romans and A7X. I could care less that she likes them, but I'm thinking a syringe full of metal might give her some more things to listen to. So perhaps you guys might know some good stuff to suggest to a new comer.

The Black Dahlia Murder
Arsis
Ghost
Down
Fear Factory
Gwar
Immortal
Kamelot
Kvelertak
Mastodon
Opeth
Red Fang
Strapping Young Lad
3 Inches of Blood

Besides listing the obvious this seems good for a metal newbie.

At 7/17/12 08:35 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: You want some good Black Metal recommandations ?
When it comes to good Depressive Black Metal, there are a few bands you just don't want to miss out on.

You must get the album Il Ãfo/ootait une ForÃfªt... by the band Gris. It is absolutely amazing. Probably the best Depressive Black Metal album ever released, if you ask me.

The album To Lay Like Old Ashes by Austere is also a must. If you don't like the whole thing, check out the track Just for a Moment. I think it stands out as a masterpiece on it's own.

Languor into Echoes, Beyond by Chaos Moon is great. It's now your typical slow-paced and repetitive depressive black metal album. It's very "second-wave-ish black metal" but with good depressive bm elements. I like it :)

I know Xasthur gets a lot of negative critics, but Malefic's work is worth checking out no matter what flaws you can find in his music. I think you need to be in a specific mood for Xasthur, and even though the flaws are obvious in his music, it's still nice to go back to some of his records every now and then. To Violate the Oblivious has a thrashy production, which makes it probably the most "melodic" of his albums. It's pretty decent if you ask me. A few very good riffs here and there on that album, and some quite memorable moments. The album Subliminal Genocide is worth checking out for the two first tracks alone. Nothing to do with masterpieces like Ulver's Bergtatt, but still worth checking out.

Thanks man, I'll be sure to check out some of those recommendations. I know they'll be good, unlike searching youtube for the most mainstream depressive black metal there is. Those usually suck.

And I know I'm a little late to the party, but Destroyer 666 is AWESOME! I haven't listened to a single track yet from any of their albums that isn't great.

And if I were to add, Tsjuder coming back together was probably the best reformation ever, because they were able to come back and make the best album yet of their discography, Legion Helvete. Bought the album itself and a T-shirt of it. I just wish black metal bands performed live more than they do, they seem to like to avoid stages.

At 7/17/12 08:35 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 7/17/12 09:07 AM, Bahamut wrote: That's fucked up. I wonder why it's hard to get an EP available on physical format. They do have the full song on their Bandcamp page, though which includes a digital download price. I feel if I have to buy the albums, I may as well get them in physical formats.

Same here. I'm not buying any digital shit... ever !

Unfortunately, my sister did buy Bongripper's Satan Worshipping Doom online but it's hard to get their stuff on CD. Like, a lot harder than Manilla Road prior to all their recent re-issues.

And it sucks that I can't seem to find it. I would like to hear it before the show. Yup, I'm most likely going to see them live on July 24th !!

Hey, that experience will be something.

Usually HMV, no matter how shitty this store has gotten, still have Agalloch albums... Get The Mantle as fast as you can. You won't regret this ! And if you can pick any other of their albums, do it :)

Not to worry, I grabbed The Mantle from Amazon. I was more thinking of possibly seeing Marrow of the Spirit, even if it'll be £15.

The band isn't cluttered up with demo/single releases so there's only the five albums to get (six if you count Unholy Cadaver). I like the look of their discography right now. Looks very tidy.

Well, if HOM had a demo like From Which Of This Oak, you'd be fuckin' happy they have released demos :P

Heh, Unholy Cadaver is counted as a demo but the reissue makes itself a full-length album. You know, I find it funny how we're talking about Hammers of Misfortune and Agalloch at the same time. If you're aware of Ludicra, you'll know that John Cobbett from Hammers actually collaborated with Agalloch members for the Ludicra project. That band has split up since last year, though but it was necessary due to HOM's increase of popularity.

And with a digital download regardless of legality just isn't the same. I can't quite trust how downloaded tracks are backed up for music. Maybe if they had that convenient account system that Steam has...

Same here... And Apple still retains a fucking property on the tracks as well... Fuck it !

I think Amazon do have a record of what you download but I'm not fully bought on Amazon MP3s. The most I use it for is to grab the odd strange track for my tastes.

At 7/18/12 07:43 AM, Bahamut wrote:

At 7/17/12 08:35 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 7/17/12 09:07 AM, Bahamut wrote: That's fucked up. I wonder why it's hard to get an EP available on physical format. They do have the full song on their Bandcamp page, though which includes a digital download price. I feel if I have to buy the albums, I may as well get them in physical formats.

Same here. I'm not buying any digital shit... ever !

Unfortunately, my sister did buy Bongripper's Satan Worshipping Doom online but it's hard to get their stuff on CD. Like, a lot harder than Manilla Road prior to all their recent re-issues.

I bought a few MP3 Albums on Amazon. While I can't complain about the quality it just doesn't "feel right". It's just as if I donwloaded those songs without paying anything. Somehow I feel, I just don't "own" those songs. Very strange.

Anyway, today I got Deathfist's "Too Hot To Burn" (it's their first full length album). It's a pretty good thrash metal album. While they don't reinvent the genre, it's a very solid (and THRASHY!) debut album. Also, Corinna Becker is a damn good singer. Forget about Sabina Classen, Corinna is the new queen of Thrash Metal!

At 7/16/12 09:35 AM, Bahamut wrote: I'm sure you and Duff can agree that it's worth checking out all four albums. Although, I know for a fact that they made a single track 21 minute EP this year so that intrigues me.

I haven't heard the new EP, but I have the White and the first two tracks are great. I especially like Birch Black, but Isle of Summer is also great.

At 7/16/12 01:49 PM, Bahamut wrote: Aww man, we've lost Jon Lord.

Yeah, a friend of mine told me. While that's sad, I honestly haven't heard anything from Deep Purple more recent than the 80's.

well Randy Blythe's bail has officially been doubled from $200,000 to $400,000.....

Well, it's final. Brandon "Magnus Burzgul" W*** (last name blanked out), 1991-2012. Rest in peace, good friend. Rest in peace. You are very much so missed.

At 7/18/12 04:19 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: Well, it's final. Brandon "Magnus Burzgul" W*** (last name blanked out), 1991-2012. Rest in peace, good friend. Rest in peace. You are very much so missed.

I'm very sorry to hear about your loss. Peace to him. Make him proud with the black metal song.

Also, thank you for the recs everyone. I'll be sure to take everything into consideration.

Also, anyone here who hasn't listened to Tormentor should do so. They are very overlooked for some reason. Those fuckers should be right up there next to Bathory.

At 7/18/12 03:17 AM, mothballs wrote: Thanks man, I'll be sure to check out some of those recommendations. I know they'll be good, unlike searching youtube for the most mainstream depressive black metal there is. Those usually suck.

I'm always happy to share music I love with others :)

At 7/18/12 07:43 AM, Bahamut wrote: Unfortunately, my sister did buy Bongripper's Satan Worshipping Doom online but it's hard to get their stuff on CD. Like, a lot harder than Manilla Road prior to all their recent re-issues.

I've myself been looking for If These Trees Could Talk albums for years now. I can't believe these guys don't do anything to help their fans get their hands on their merch. Some bands even handle their merch by themselves, and that works pretty fine I suppose. I bought my Blotted Science album directly from Ron Jarzombeck via his website, and I know I've chatted with Fleshgod Apocalypse's bass player when I bought them a t-shirt.

Hey, that experience will be something.

I already saw them, but I really want to see them again.

Not to worry, I grabbed The Mantle from Amazon. I was more thinking of possibly seeing Marrow of the Spirit, even if it'll be Ã'£15.

It's well worth it, especially considering that any an all Agalloch albums are one hour long or longer (except for AATG... which is like 59 minutes an 20 seconds... but whatever). I remember buying Origin's album Echoes Of Decimation for 20 something canadian bucks. That fuckin' album is 26 minutes long !

Heh, Unholy Cadaver is counted as a demo but the reissue makes itself a full-length album. You know, I find it funny how we're talking about Hammers of Misfortune and Agalloch at the same time. If you're aware of Ludicra, you'll know that John Cobbett from Hammers actually collaborated with Agalloch members for the Ludicra project. That band has split up since last year, though but it was necessary due to HOM's increase of popularity.

I didn't even knew that band, but I see Aesop Dekker from Agalloch was in that band. Well that's cool, that gives me another band to check out :) Thanks !

At 7/18/12 04:19 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: Well, it's final. Brandon "Magnus Burzgul" W*** (last name blanked out), 1991-2012. Rest in peace, good friend. Rest in peace. You are very much so missed.

im sorry for your loss
i dont know how id feel if a friend of mine died
he wasn't all that much older than me only by two years
and we have the same first name

At 7/18/12 04:49 PM, Tobi wrote: Also, thank you for the recs everyone. I'll be sure to take everything into consideration.

your welcome. i doubt my recs were all that great but eh what the hell i decided to do it anyways

At 7/18/12 06:33 PM, Viper50 wrote:

At 7/18/12 04:19 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: Well, it's final. Brandon "Magnus Burzgul" W*** (last name blanked out), 1991-2012. Rest in peace, good friend. Rest in peace. You are very much so missed.

im sorry for your loss
i dont know how id feel if a friend of mine died
he wasn't all that much older than me only by two years
and we have the same first name

This man and I were best friends. We went through so much BS together. I even introduced him to metal. He was like a little brother to me. His parents called me when he ran away when he was 16. I have never been closer to any other human being (minus anything physical obviously), even including my relationships. It feels like a part of me is dead now.

At 7/18/12 04:19 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: Well, it's final. Brandon "Magnus Burzgul" W*** (last name blanked out), 1991-2012. Rest in peace, good friend. Rest in peace. You are very much so missed.

So there really was no way to make him rethink his decision... It's terrible to see someone leaving our world like that. I'm sorry for your loss...

I'm really sorry to hear about that, Ghoul. My best friend tried to kill himself a few years ago by putting a gun to his own head and pulling the trigger. Luckily, the gun was old and crappy and didn't fire.

At 7/18/12 07:25 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: I'm really sorry to hear about that, Ghoul. My best friend tried to kill himself a few years ago by putting a gun to his own head and pulling the trigger. Luckily, the gun was old and crappy and didn't fire.

He loaded up 5 syringes full of heroin and xanax and shot them all up simultaneously.

At 7/18/12 12:16 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 7/16/12 01:49 PM, Bahamut wrote: Aww man, we've lost Jon Lord.

Yeah, a friend of mine told me. While that's sad, I honestly haven't heard anything from Deep Purple more recent than the 80's.

I was meant to have searched for Deep Purple albums yesterday. Somehow that slipped my mind. More and more I'm realising everything that made Deep Purple great. Jon Lord's contributions to Machine Head album I have appreciated more and it's as if there were hidden tunes in there. I'm pretty sure in a few years time I can easily say Deep Purple are one of my favourite bands of all time.

At 7/18/12 04:19 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: Well, it's final. Brandon "Magnus Burzgul" W*** (last name blanked out), 1991-2012. Rest in peace, good friend. Rest in peace. You are very much so missed.

Really sucks to hear you friend went ahead with it. :(

At 7/18/12 04:55 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 7/18/12 07:43 AM, Bahamut wrote: Unfortunately, my sister did buy Bongripper's Satan Worshipping Doom online but it's hard to get their stuff on CD. Like, a lot harder than Manilla Road prior to all their recent re-issues.

I've myself been looking for If These Trees Could Talk albums for years now. I can't believe these guys don't do anything to help their fans get their hands on their merch.

This is how I feel with Slough Feg's first album. Sure, they've re-issued it on vinyl but that's vinyl only. There's yet to be a CD variant of the recent re-issue. While I once again contradict my statements on downloading music, there are huge exceptions like Slough Feg's first album where it's simply too hard to even get on physical copy so you really have no choice but to download it. I can understand there may be some label issues (Black Sabbath's IRS albums are good examples) but in the end, that only gets their fans to take the downloading route. If you grab a rare copy of Headless Cross on eBay, who's really getting the money? Certainly not the band nor the label.

Hey, that experience will be something.

I already saw them, but I really want to see them again.

And if you were to hear a song from them live that you've never heard before, that should be an intriguing experience.

It's well worth it, especially considering that any an all Agalloch albums are one hour long or longer (except for AATG... which is like 59 minutes an 20 seconds... but whatever). I remember buying Origin's album Echoes Of Decimation for 20 something canadian bucks. That fuckin' album is 26 minutes long !

Turns out there were none at HMV. I should know high street shops damn well at this point. I suppose that 40 quid for HMV will have to wait until my next trip to London. In future, I should probably ask for Amazon vouchers since it'll be a lot easier to spend. There's tons more albums I can get on there that not even the biggest HMV store in London would provide.

Heh, Unholy Cadaver is counted as a demo but the reissue makes itself a full-length album. You know, I find it funny how we're talking about Hammers of Misfortune and Agalloch at the same time. If you're aware of Ludicra, you'll know that John Cobbett from Hammers actually collaborated with Agalloch members for the Ludicra project. That band has split up since last year, though but it was necessary due to HOM's increase of popularity.

I didn't even knew that band, but I see Aesop Dekker from Agalloch was in that band. Well that's cool, that gives me another band to check out :) Thanks !

Yep, that's why I brought it up. Only four albums have ever been released from the band and I own two so far. I really dig some of the songs from this project.

Well, I am going to see Iron Maiden and Alice Cooper live tonight. I am pretty excited for it.

And Ghoul, I am very sorry your friend decided to go through with it, I knew a guy who killed himself. I didn't know him as well as you knew him, but it was still hard. If you ever need to talk about it or anything, feel free to message me. I'm here, I consider you guys in the Hell to be kinda like family.

At 7/19/12 06:17 AM, Bahamut wrote: This is how I feel with Slough Feg's first album. Sure, they've re-issued it on vinyl but that's vinyl only. There's yet to be a CD variant of the recent re-issue. While I once again contradict my statements on downloading music, there are huge exceptions like Slough Feg's first album where it's simply too hard to even get on physical copy so you really have no choice but to download it. I can understand there may be some label issues (Black Sabbath's IRS albums are good examples) but in the end, that only gets their fans to take the downloading route. If you grab a rare copy of Headless Cross on eBay, who's really getting the money? Certainly not the band nor the label.

Exactly...

But If These Trees Could Talk is a young band. They only have two releases and I can't get my hands on these... Slough Feg and Black Sabbath are a little older so maybe they just stopped making new copies. ITTCT couldn't possibly have stopped making new copies of their two albums...

Turns out there were none at HMV. I should know high street shops damn well at this point. I suppose that 40 quid for HMV will have to wait until my next trip to London. In future, I should probably ask for Amazon vouchers since it'll be a lot easier to spend. There's tons more albums I can get on there that not even the biggest HMV store in London would provide.

These HMV stores have the shittiest and most depressing Metal sections I've ever seen in a cd store...

Yep, that's why I brought it up. Only four albums have ever been released from the band and I own two so far. I really dig some of the songs from this project.

More stuff to check out ! Damn !

At 7/19/12 05:03 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: But If These Trees Could Talk is a young band. They only have two releases and I can't get my hands on these... Slough Feg and Black Sabbath are a little older so maybe they just stopped making new copies. ITTCT couldn't possibly have stopped making new copies of their two albums...

Slough Feg still have their underground status so I can forgive them on that but Black Sabbath are THE metal band so surely they'd do everything to have all their albums available. That's why I like it when anyone can go to their local music store and pick up any Maiden album they want.

These HMV stores have the shittiest and most depressing Metal sections I've ever seen in a cd store...

You're damn right there. Considering all the non-metal crap they throw in, it does make me want to puke. I've blended it in my mind at this point so it's less bothersome.

More stuff to check out ! Damn !

A good start would be Dead City and then follow onto In Fever. As a fan of John Cobbett's works, I can damn well tell it's him who's in this band.

So....the Iron Maiden show may have been the most epic thing I have ever had the privelege to witness. If younhave the chance to go see Maiden and you haven't yet, definitely take it. It did not start out promising, because there was a severe thunderstorm going through the area, so my friend and I had to wait outside for about 45 min while it was pouring rain...not fun. But, we did get in, but due to that, Alice Cooper had to cut his setlist in half (Which included my favorite of his stuff, Halo of Flies). Here's his setlist:

Black Widow
Brutal Planet
I'm Eighteen
No More Mr. Nice Guy
Billion Dollar Babies
Feed My Frankenstein
Poison
Wicked Young Man
I Love the Dead (After Alice had his head chopped off)
School's Out (WIth parts of Another Brick in the Wall by Pink Floyd)

Then there was Maiden...which was supremely awesome. They just had so much energy and the sets were incredible. I always enjoyed the song Fear of the Dark, but it is so much better hearing it live. Also, Seventh Son of a Seventh Son is a monster of a track live. Here's the setlist:

Doctor, Doctor
Moonchild
Can I Play With Madness
The Prisoner
2 Minutes to Midnight
Afraid to Shoot Strangers
The Trooper
The Number of the Beast
Phantom of the Opera
Run to the Hills
Wasted Years
Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
The Clairvoyant
Fear of the Dark
Iron Maiden

ENCORE:
Churchill's Speech/Aces High
The Evil That Men Do
Running Free
Always Look on the Brightside of Life

Really it was an incredible set...during the track Iron Maiden they had this absolutely huge recreation of the cover from SSoaSS and the heart in its hand was pulsing and stuff. It was incredibly epic. The real only thing I was disappointed in was that they didn't play Only the Good Die Young and Hallowed Be Thy Name. But it was such a great performance that those disappointments seem minor.

At 7/20/12 12:31 PM, Zodir wrote: maiden

I'm going to the show when they come to SF. I'm looking forward to all the 7th son material. That's my favorite album by Maiden.

suicide is for pussies.

At 7/20/12 12:31 PM, Zodir wrote: Alice Cooper setlist:

Wait, nothing from Welcome 2 My Nightmare? I only wish if he's still touring with Maiden by the time they get to England he'll have a setlist very much like this.

Iron Maiden setlist:

What gets me about the Maiden England world tour is that my two favourite tracks from Seventh Son are not played (i.e. Infinite Dreams and The Prophecy). Why The Prophecy is a heavily overlooked Maiden song I'll never know. Despite that, I will want to see them for this setlist simply because of Phantom of the fucking Opera!!

The real only thing I was disappointed in was that they didn't play Only the Good Die Young and Hallowed Be Thy Name. But it was such a great performance that those disappointments seem minor.

Doesn't surprise me they'd leave out Hallowed Be Thy Name. For The Final Frontier world tour, they had left out Run to the Hills or The Trooper depending on where they were playing.

At 7/21/12 04:39 AM, BillPatton wrote: suicide is for pussies.

Harsh statement but my friend feels the same about suicide. He only finds it acceptable when whoever takes their own life has a terminal illness. As for me, eh, I just keep on going and see what happens in life.

At 7/21/12 05:24 AM, Bahamut wrote:

At 7/21/12 04:39 AM, BillPatton wrote: suicide is for pussies.

Harsh statement but my friend feels the same about suicide. He only finds it acceptable when whoever takes their own life has a terminal illness. As for me, eh, I just keep on going and see what happens in life.

Nowadays I only use that kind of judgmental thinking when applied to myself, i.e. I figure he had a good reason for killing himself. Personally I feel the same (suicide is lame) and won't do it myself, but I don't judge others for doing it. Brandon was a grown man and could make decisions for himself.

So I picked up an Iron Maiden album that was originally released in 1969.

So I saw Dream Theater three nights ago. To be honest setlist was disappointing, but hey, I got to see one of my favorite bands.

Bridges in the Sky
6:00
The Dark Eternal Night
This is the Life
Paradigm Shift (Liquid Tension Experiment cover) (with Tony Levin)
Lost Not Forgotten
To Live Forever
Surrounded
On the Backs of Angels
War Inside My Head
The Test that Stumped Them All
The Spirit Carries On
Breaking All Illusions
Encore:
21st Century Schizoid Man (King Crimson cover) (with The Crimson Projekct)

At 7/22/12 11:03 AM, Bahamut wrote: So I picked up an Iron Maiden album that was originally released in 1969.

are you talking about Maiden Voyage?

At 7/22/12 11:03 AM, Bahamut wrote: So I picked up an Iron Maiden album that was originally released in 1969.

I thought it was 1965? Yeah, they sure did change after they fired the black pianist.

here's something for my fellow DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM fans
15 track comp called Sons of Black Sabbath
Electric Wizard and 14 other bands
not a cover album..just a damn good comp
here is the link for free dl
Sons of Black Sabbath
enjoy
will have more goodies next time.
and looking like i may be on a physical CD release in the near future with that Infinite Torture project i worked with.
and if i can pull it off i might be doing a gig in Kenosha , WI next month as well as a possible gig in Chicago
will keep ya updated when i know more
life is good...new music in the works..something different that hopefully will catch everyone off guard
Keep it HEAVY
peace
\,/ :) \/,,

I have a fun idea. Right now I have over 800 CDs in my collection and of course the majority of them are metal albums. However, despite having that many albums, there's surely some essentials out there that I'm missing out on. So I ask everyone here to take their time to use the text search on my CD collection and see what I don't have. Who knows, I may end up obtaining your said albums by the end of the week. ;)

At 7/22/12 12:21 PM, CoCo wrote: So I saw Dream Theater three nights ago. To be honest setlist was disappointing, but hey, I got to see one of my favorite bands.

Yeah, the setlist is a bit lacking but I'd love to hear War Inside My Head and The Test that Stumped Them All live.

At 7/22/12 02:49 PM, Viper50 wrote:

At 7/22/12 11:03 AM, Bahamut wrote: So I picked up an Iron Maiden album that was originally released in 1969.

are you talking about Maiden Voyage?

That's the one.

At 7/23/12 09:11 AM, Bahamut wrote: I have a fun idea. Right now I have over 800 CDs in my collection and of course the majority of them are metal albums. However, despite having that many albums, there's surely some essentials out there that I'm missing out on. So I ask everyone here to take their time to use the text search on my CD collection and see what I don't have. Who knows, I may end up obtaining your said albums by the end of the week. ;)

im noticing a lack in
The Sword - Age Of Winters or Gods Of The Earth
Sleep - Holy Mountain or Dopesmoker
Orchid - Capricorn
Shrinebuilder - Shrinebuilder
Red Fang - Murder The Mountains or Red Fang
Samsara Blues Experiment - Long Distance Trip
Electric - Come My Fanatics, We Live, or Electric Wizard
and Stoned Jesus - Seven Thunders Roar
not a big deal though....
and i see you got Yellow & Green. my copy still isn't here yet ._.

At 7/22/12 02:49 PM, Viper50 wrote:

At 7/22/12 11:03 AM, Bahamut wrote: So I picked up an Iron Maiden album that was originally released in 1969.

are you talking about Maiden Voyage?

That's the one.

ah. well i haven't gotten around to listening to all of it but from what i have heard it sounds like an okay album