At 5/2/12 12:17 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: That being said, it's probably my favourite DragonForce album next to Valley of the Damned.

I probably enjoy the new vocalist more than you do but everything else is spot on!

Oh! And I hear Cryptopsy's new album is coming out soon? I'm super excited for that! Making your seventh album self-titled is a little weird, but as long as the music is good.

It's nothing new, really. Bands like Stratovarius, Annihilator and such made self-titled albums in their mid/late career.

At 5/3/12 03:33 AM, PenisClown wrote: I'm the singer and yes I was, we did the gig for alcohol and no pay.

Now we do gigs for money haha

Now that's a winner!

At 5/3/12 03:57 AM, BillPatton wrote: so yeah
Keep it HEAVY
peace
bye

Aw, come on, Bill! I can't speak for everyone, but I enjoy reading your posts. I'd certainly like to talk to you about your future projects.

At 5/3/12 11:58 AM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:

At 5/3/12 03:57 AM, BillPatton wrote: so yeah
Keep it HEAVY
peace
bye

Aw, come on, Bill! I can't speak for everyone, but I enjoy reading your posts. I'd certainly like to talk to you about your future projects.

no point in it.
this is NOT the hell I joined years ago
this is only a Horseman Hangout.
and I wish someone would prove me wrong

At 5/3/12 01:39 PM, BillPatton wrote:

At 5/3/12 11:58 AM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: stuff

no point in it.
this is NOT the hell I joined years ago
this is only a Horseman Hangout.
and I wish someone would prove me wrong

OSHIT

Did I miss something?

Bill, please cut that shit out. I don't know if I can speak for everyone, but I like having you here. I don't always get the time to reply to your posts, but merely having them is a gift. It's good to see veterans like you around, posting every so and so, and ending every post with "keep it HEAVY". I get bummed out every time you claim to leave, and I'm sure everyone else was too. Look at the posts of when your account was deleted and you left. Everyone was saddened, and most every post probably had the sad emote.

Don't leave, Bill. It's not the horseman hang out you claim to be, but if you leave, it will be one notch closer.

At 5/2/12 12:17 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Oh! And I hear Cryptopsy's new album is coming out soon? I'm super excited for that! Making your seventh album self-titled is a little weird, but as long as the music is good.

Pretty ambitious to have your seventh LP be a self-titled album, indeed. Not only will they put their name on this record, but as there won't be another title on the album, this can be perceived as a personnal will of the band to make this album the definition of their personnality as a band. Quite ambitious... Especially considering how badly received their last album was among their fans. But I'm really hoping for something good with this album. Jon Levasseur is back in the band, and we all know what awesome riffs he can write.

At 5/3/12 01:39 PM, BillPatton wrote: no point in it.
this is NOT the hell I joined years ago
this is only a Horseman Hangout.
and I wish someone would prove me wrong

So Ponos, Centurion-Ryan, Tobi, TheSporkLord, AniMetal, Haggard, Delirium, Viper50, rockreaper and Zodir are all Horsemen now ? I guess I might have missed something.

Now just... stop that Bill. For once. You do that "I'm leaving for good" shit on a regular basis now, and no matter how sad I think it is to see a regular and veteran of the Metal Hell feel like he doesn't fit in anymore, I don't see why you feel the need to post this kind of stuff so often. We have plenty of discussions and you feel we are not cool with you for not answering your posts? Maybe if you made the effort of quoting someone and jumping in a discussion rather than just posting and waiting for us to show interest in what you have to say it would make this place a more enjoyable place for all.

Viper50

woo i was included
yeah...im not a Horsemen by any stretch of the imagination...
but dude Bill...granted i hardly know you but this place wouldn't be the same without you
don't leave D:

quick question has anyone here heard the little teaser Baroness released for Yellow & Green yet?
tada

ive also been looking around and finding more Stoner Rock and Doom Metal bands
anyone here listen to: Volva (there is supposed to be an umlaut over the o but newgrounds would fuck it up...), Witch, Black Land, Windhand, Witchsorrow, or Ice Dragon?
(wow 3 out of 5 of those bands have the word "witch" in their name...)

well long story short i wont be posting much here...or really anywhere else...
got a bunch of crazy shit going on in my life and a bunch of injuries ive received in the past month or so that should have been taken care of but weren't: like 3 mild concussions, pains in my heart, weird back spasms out of nowhere, etc. etc....

so yeah not really in all that great of shape but im not complaining

At 5/3/12 05:09 PM, Viper50 wrote: ive also been looking around and finding more Stoner Rock and Doom Metal bands
anyone here listen to: Volva (there is supposed to be an umlaut over the o but newgrounds would fuck it up...), Witch, Black Land, Windhand, Witchsorrow, or Ice Dragon?

I listened to a little bit of Ice Dragon a while back. Not really my thing, to be honest, but I guess they're pretty good for what they are. I've always found Stoner stuff kind of hard to listen to.

At 5/3/12 03:51 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

Now just... stop that Bill. For once. You do that "I'm leaving for good" shit on a regular basis now, and no matter how sad I think it is to see a regular and veteran of the Metal Hell feel like he doesn't fit in anymore, I don't see why you feel the need to post this kind of stuff so often. We have plenty of discussions and you feel we are not cool with you for not answering your posts? Maybe if you made the effort of quoting someone and jumping in a discussion rather than just posting and waiting for us to show interest in what you have to say it would make this place a more enjoyable place for all.

So now there are Rules and Guidelines for posting in here huh?
so be it.
You , boy, are one of the main reasons why I am fed up with what has become of this "club"
won't waste the time looking and copying your former posts condemning the Horseman.
too many times i had to read your tirades about how the "Horsefags" were useless and unneeded.
that is, until you became one you 2 faced ........insert your own fukkin name.
you crack me up...from proclaiming "Fukk the horsefags to.. I am a horseman, I am law,,,and fukk you all if you don't like it or try to strip my precious little title from me"
fukkin pathetic.
and before everyone's fave dragon jumps in spouting fire and deleting and banning me again i have this to say to him: yeah, i considered you cool, a friend..but since you became 21 you have gone from being a dragon to just being a drag.
you guys crack me up with your cock worship of bands and your reviews of artists
i can count maybe a handful of you all that actually play or have played in a band or instrument yet you feel justified in judging bands and musicians...pathetic
yeah, i was an old member and proud of it...and will always regret forming the Horseman now since you fukks never got it.
so happy now Duff? you were quoted...make your cock hard?
this club is a shambles and a pale shadow of what it once was.
and you all wonder why I want to leave?
Power metal is nothing but aural masturbation.
DSBM is nothing but whiny emo shit in corpse paint.
and BM...nothing but fools in corpse paint who play loud and abrasive to cover the obvious fact they have no talent whatsoever but to make noise and try to look so hard.....pathetic
so yeah...that is what is on my mind

All any of you do is whine.

This is a club to discuss music. An art form. An expression of emotion.

Nobody gives a shit what you say, what you do or what you think regarding non-musical topics in this thread.

This isn't the "WHINE ABOUT HOW NO ONE'S REPLYING TO YOU" nor is it the "INSULT SOMEONE ELSE FOR NO REASON" club.

So everyone shut up. Anyone who wants to discuss their personal life with any other member, add them on facebook or shoot them a private message.

Jeeze. In LEGITIMATE metal news, this is depressing.

Speaking of progpower, Symphony X announced they want to do something to celebrate the 15th anniversary of Divine Wings of Tragedy on their facebook and twitter pages, this combiend with a combo I had with Michael Lepond in March leads me to the conclusion they might be playing Divine Wings, either the album or just the song, in entirety at progpower. Exciting times.

At 5/2/12 12:17 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Stand Up and Fight I was sort of disappointed in. It's one of those albums that has one or two great songs and then the rest is pretty forgettable. March of the Varangian Guard and End of an Empire are great, but the rest of the tracks just sort of blend together into a big, formless blob of mediocrity.

Forgot to reply to this before but I actually found Stand Up and Fight to be really good, one of the best releases of 2011 for sure. The title track and The Great Escape easily had me pumped for the album. You did check out the outro section for The Great Escape right? Despite that, I'm glad you at least got enjoyment from End of an Empire because that easily takes the crown for the whole album.

At 5/3/12 05:09 PM, Viper50 wrote: quick question has anyone here heard the little teaser Baroness released for Yellow & Green yet?
tada

Hard to make a real judgment on it with that clip but that's only a minute out of possibly 100 minutes worth of music from the entire album.

ive also been looking around and finding more Stoner Rock and Doom Metal bands
anyone here listen to: Volva (there is supposed to be an umlaut over the o but newgrounds would fuck it up...), Witch, Black Land, Windhand, Witchsorrow, or Ice Dragon?

Can't say I know any of these bands but the majority were giving me stoner/doom results. Would definitely appreciate some links to get an idea on the lot.

got a bunch of crazy shit going on in my life and a bunch of injuries ive received in the past month or so that should have been taken care of but weren't: like 3 mild concussions, pains in my heart, weird back spasms out of nowhere, etc. etc....

Damn, that doesn't sound pleasant at all. Really hope you get better from this.

At 5/3/12 07:48 PM, Bahamut wrote: Hard to make a real judgment on it with that clip but that's only a minute out of possibly 100 minutes worth of music from the entire album.

yeah i can see what you mean...i mean id probably have more of an opinion if they had a bit more...but im not complaining its more than we'll have until they either release it or someone leaks it somewhere...

Can't say I know any of these bands but the majority were giving me stoner/doom results. Would definitely appreciate some links to get an idea on the lot.

Volva
Witch
Black Land
Windhand
Witchsorrow
Ice Dragon

Damn, that doesn't sound pleasant at all. Really hope you get better from this.

yeah its not really all that pleasant...

So yeah, new song Cryptopsy live and an interview with the band. Pretty good, but it seem like they can't decide whether to be a rehash of Blasphemy Made Flesh or Once Was Not. Damn well pit worthy though, it's cool to see Matt stuck with the band despite all the criticism. People like to haze him because he's the new vocalist, but it was really Flo's idea to make Unspoken. Besides, Matt is good at doing vox on Worm's stuff (I haven't heard his DiSlavo attempt yet) and he seemed OK with most of the Unspoken songs being removed from setlists. He's cool in my book.

I definitely will be buying this. They deserve all the support they can get.

Oh, and I hate it when people act like bands selling out is a personal attack against them. David Vincet and Flo never personally harmed you. Shut the fuck up.

huh...

At 5/3/12 08:19 AM, Bahamut wrote: It's nothing new, really. Bands like Stratovarius, Annihilator and such made self-titled albums in their mid/late career.

and Sodom, which was quite a good ST, especially the song Blood on Your Lips. That song gets me excited every time.

Plus, there's the more obvious Beatles and Metallica.

At 5/3/12 07:47 PM, AniMetal wrote: All any of you do is whine.

This is a club to discuss music. An art form. An expression of emotion.

Nobody gives a shit what you say, what you do or what you think regarding non-musical topics in this thread.

This isn't the "WHINE ABOUT HOW NO ONE'S REPLYING TO YOU" nor is it the "INSULT SOMEONE ELSE FOR NO REASON" club.

So everyone shut up. Anyone who wants to discuss their personal life with any other member, add them on facebook or shoot them a private message.

who the fuck died and made you god?
sounding like a little bitch.
metal enough for ya?
really liking how little bitches in here keep adding rules to get away with their own bullshit.
no wonder the old goat split, who the fuck can blame him?

At 5/3/12 07:13 PM, BillPatton wrote: So now there are Rules and Guidelines for posting in here huh?
so be it.

Yes, this is the Metal Hell. We are here to discuss metal music and stuff that is related to metal music. I don't care if you have some personnal matters you want to discuss sometimes, but my point and it is very logical, is that this is the Metal Hell, and we shouldn't have to deal with this on such a regular basis.

You , boy, are one of the main reasons why I am fed up with what has become of this "club"
won't waste the time looking and copying your former posts condemning the Horseman.
too many times i had to read your tirades about how the "Horsefags" were useless and unneeded.

Maybe I had some beef with the Horsemen back when Ponos used to call me names all the time and nobody did anything to stop him. And remember I was a teenager back then. You want to discredit me using 5 years old quotes, it's your goddamn problem dude.

that is, until you became one you 2 faced ........insert your own fukkin name.
you crack me up...from proclaiming "Fukk the horsefags to.. I am a horseman, I am law,,,and fukk you all if you don't like it or try to strip my precious little title from me"
fukkin pathetic.

What the fuck does that have to do with anything? You said this place was now a "Horsemen hangout" or whatever, and I prooved you wrong. So now you are pissed. Stop being so fucking immature.

And we also had this whole discussion and other members said it was ok to have horsemen while some others disagreed. I don't care if you don't have the same opinion as me. Stop putting words in my mouth. I've never sais such a thing.

and before everyone's fave dragon jumps in spouting fire and deleting and banning me again i have this to say to him: yeah, i considered you cool, a friend..but since you became 21 you have gone from being a dragon to just being a drag.
you guys crack me up with your cock worship of bands and your reviews of artists
i can count maybe a handful of you all that actually play or have played in a band or instrument yet you feel justified in judging bands and musicians...pathetic

Oh God! We've had this debate already. But you overlooked it. Do you have to be a chief cook to know anything about food? Do you have to be a mechanic to know cars? Do you have to write books to be a book critic? No. You don't have a point.

so happy now Duff? you were quoted...make your cock hard?

Just what the fuck is your problem ? Whenever I disagree with you, you try to jump me like a stupid fuckin' pissed off teenager. I'm tired of this shit. Go away. I didn't do anything to you and still you adress me with all these insults. I never asked anyone to quote me. You are just so fucking clustered in your little world you didn't understand the point of my post.

I might get banned for this, I donâEUTMt know exactly how things work in here. But we are not making up rules as we go, we are not trying to put you down, and we surely arenâEUTMt here to fight with anybody. This is the last time I get in such a fight with you Bill. If you ever come back, I really hope you will have changed, because we arenâEUTMt here to fight, but to discuss our music. And you have insulted AniMetal as wellâEU¦ because he just daredâEU¦ HE DARED saying something you didnâEUTMt want to ear. And now you are trying to jump him as wellâEU¦

At 5/3/12 09:29 PM, Tobi wrote: So yeah, new song Cryptopsy live and an interview with the band. Pretty good, but it seem like they can't decide whether to be a rehash of Blasphemy Made Flesh or Once Was Not. Damn well pit worthy though, it's cool to see Matt stuck with the band despite all the criticism. People like to haze him because he's the new vocalist, but it was really Flo's idea to make Unspoken. Besides, Matt is good at doing vox on Worm's stuff (I haven't heard his DiSlavo attempt yet) and he seemed OK with most of the Unspoken songs being removed from setlists. He's cool in my book.

I've never heard Matt do the old tracks. I'll search around YouTube to hear those :)

Also, I'd hope they would go back to their roots and get to sound something like None So Vile or Blasphemy Made Flesh again. These two albums are my absolute favorites and I didn't really care for their later work. According to what we are hearing right now though, it doesn't seem like my wishes are going to be granted. Still, if they go back to Death Metal, it cannot be a bad thing :)

I still feel that Matt's behavior is kind of weird. Just look at him in the link you shared. The look on his face! He looks like he's going to sing Walk by Pantera or something. I hate tha Deathcore attitude. You don't have to look pissed to be true.

doof, seriously fuck off
you were the final confirmation I needed
I guess I should thank your sorry ass for that.
as long as pricks like you are playing horseman and making up rules and guidelines to impose your feeble wills this place is fucked.
this used to be the best club on newgrounds.
now it is just a pathetic excuse for horsemen to nay what they do not agree with and spend pages trying to justify it.
so in essence..fuck you guys.
this place died as soon as doof became a horsefag.

At 5/4/12 02:32 AM, BillPatton wrote: as long as pricks like you are playing horseman and making up rules and guidelines to impose your feeble wills this place is fucked.
now it is just a pathetic excuse for horsemen to nay what they do not agree with and spend pages trying to justify it.
so in essence..fuck you guys.

Definitely.

Goodbye.

Hey guys.

Guys.

PSST, GUYS.

This is a thread on a stupid forum on the internet.

That is all.

Now if you don't realize how silly you guys sound, then you guys are both hopeless. Just saying.

Have any of you heard the debut album of Huntress? I'm really digging it. Check it out.

At 5/3/12 10:47 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: huh...

At 5/3/12 08:19 AM, Bahamut wrote: It's nothing new, really. Bands like Stratovarius, Annihilator and such made self-titled albums in their mid/late career.

and Sodom, which was quite a good ST, especially the song Blood on Your Lips. That song gets me excited every time.

Plus, there's the more obvious Beatles and Metallica.

I actually think Sodom's ST is one of their better albums. Bibles and Guns and City of God both have really fun riffs that I headbang too all the time. I actually might rank it in their top 5. And I know this might be a bit controversial, but I really think M-16 is their best album. If you haven't checked it out, do so now.

And I feel like I need to address Bill's drama a little. I really respect you man, but you have done this so many times that I have lost count. I understand if you have some personal problems that you want to work out, that's cool, but don't take it out on us. If you need to take a little time away from the club, that's fine too. Just don't attack us, and the way you have been acting has made you lose a lot of my good will towards you. Just chill out for a little bit, maybe things will get better.

At 5/3/12 09:29 PM, Tobi wrote: So yeah, new song Cryptopsy live

Certainly an improvement from the last album. Can't say I'm a big fan of them but at least they're moving away from the last album. Now if only Morbid Angel could have some sense knocked into them...

At 5/3/12 10:47 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Plus, there's the more obvious Beatles and Metallica.

I had thought of them and while they are technically self-titled albums, we know them more as The White Album and The Black Album respectively. You'll hardly hear anyone calling those two albums as self-titled.

At 5/4/12 06:26 AM, Zodir wrote: Have any of you heard the debut album of Huntress? I'm really digging it. Check it out.

This could be good but what the hell is up with the sound production? I doubt I could sit down and digest the whole album.

At 5/4/12 01:40 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: I still feel that Matt's behavior is kind of weird. Just look at him in the link you shared. The look on his face! He looks like he's going to sing Walk by Pantera or something. I hate tha Deathcore attitude. You don't have to look pissed to be true.

Lol, that certainly isn't a Deathcore attitude, I've seen it in DM vocalists all the time. Corpsefisher, Frank Mullen, etc do it all the time. He's probably just into the song, and it's his way of having stage presence.

Just wondering, has anyone here seen a deathcore band live? No, I don't mean a big band on a big stage, I mean a local band on ground level. It's fucking wild, every single band I've seen, wild. Moshing all over the place, pulling in audience members to growl into the mic, joining in pits, it's really cool. They usually have way more presence than most metal bands I've seen. They may not have much punk in the music, but they really show it with the stage antics. If that's the Deathcore attitude, metal bands should pull out a notepad.

At 5/4/12 06:26 AM, Zodir wrote: And I know this might be a bit controversial, but I really think M-16 is their best album.

I thought that was one of their most popular albums. Anyway, I have that one, and it's awesome. I have a lot of their stuff.

Just don't attack us, and the way you have been acting has made you lose a lot of my good will towards you. Just chill out for a little bit, maybe things will get better.

seriously. what the fuck.

At 5/4/12 04:37 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 5/4/12 06:26 AM, Zodir wrote: And I know this might be a bit controversial, but I really think M-16 is their best album.

I thought that was one of their most popular albums. Anyway, I have that one, and it's awesome. I have a lot of their stuff.

Oh, well, I thought because it is a post 2000 album, a lot of thrash fans are like "OH, IT SUCKS CUZ IT WASN'T MADE IN THE 80S!" I really dig it, especially Napalm in the Morning.

At 5/4/12 08:59 AM, Bahamut wrote:

At 5/4/12 06:26 AM, Zodir wrote: Have any of you heard the debut album of Huntress? I'm really digging it. Check it out.

This could be good but what the hell is up with the sound production? I doubt I could sit down and digest the whole album.

Really? What problem do you have with the sound, cuz I don't mind it.

At 5/4/12 04:58 PM, Zodir wrote: I really dig it, especially Napalm in the Morning.

Hell yeah. That's one of the best songs on that album. And I have a few Marine friends, so I like to play them Marines.

MAAAARINES! THEY DIE FOR YOU! MAAAARINES!

At 5/4/12 08:49 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 5/4/12 04:58 PM, Zodir wrote: I really dig it, especially Napalm in the Morning.

Hell yeah. That's one of the best songs on that album. And I have a few Marine friends, so I like to play them Marines.

MAAAARINES! THEY DIE FOR YOU! MAAAARINES!

Or Minejumper, or I Am The War, or Surfin' Bird

At 5/4/12 06:06 AM, AniMetal wrote:

Now if you don't realize how silly you guys sound, then you guys are both hopeless. Just saying.

I feel it is my right to defend myself against such false accusations. Nothing silly about it.

At 5/4/12 11:01 AM, Tobi wrote: Lol, that certainly isn't a Deathcore attitude, I've seen it in DM vocalists all the time. Corpsefisher, Frank Mullen, etc do it all the time. He's probably just into the song, and it's his way of having stage presence.

For some reason I find this behavior to be very unfitting for Matt. Guys like Vald, the former vocalist of Blood Red Throne, just have it better than him.

Just wondering, has anyone here seen a deathcore band live? No, I don't mean a big band on a big stage, I mean a local band on ground level. It's fucking wild, every single band I've seen, wild. Moshing all over the place, pulling in audience members to growl into the mic, joining in pits, it's really cool. They usually have way more presence than most metal bands I've seen. They may not have much punk in the music, but they really show it with the stage antics. If that's the Deathcore attitude, metal bands should pull out a notepad.

I've seen a few ones, yes. But I've seen metal bands kill it, big time on live performance two :P Benighted's bassist makes it an habit to jump in the pit with his bass !

Really loved seeing Primordial and Hell last night, even if the show went on for too long and having to miss out on the last two Primordial songs as a result due to train times. Gods to the Godless and Empire Falls were missed out and that's quite a blow. Oh well, at least I got all the enjoyment I could possibly get out of Hell.

At 5/4/12 04:58 PM, Zodir wrote: Really? What problem do you have with the sound, cuz I don't mind it.

I'm just hoping it was just shitty YouTube compression but it's a wall of sound to me. Something that doesn't bode well with traditional metal for me.

I just listened to the new Sigh album, which was awesome.

Hey, Ghoul, have you listened to War of the Roses yet? It's really good.

Ulver - Providence