woah. Hold the fuck on. You did not just say that Danzig is "not so fantastic". Tell me you didn't say that.

Van Halen and Danzig are some of my favorite old bands that i listen to frequently.

At 1/18/12 01:24 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: woah. Hold the fuck on. You did not just say that Danzig is "not so fantastic". Tell me you didn't say that.

Did I say they sucked balls?

I don't believe I did. Sorry. I will state my mind differently. They are a good band, definitely. Are they one of the 100 greatests of all time. I do not believe so. But then again, maybe I haven't looked into them enough to really make my mind.

Sorry for hurting your feelings Sense ;)

At 1/17/12 11:40 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Norwegians are weird.

He's saying "shut the fuck up" BTW.

I can't say I care much for Kollektivet, but this is so stupid that it's funny. I guess to fully appreciate it though, you need to understand Norwegian because that's a great dialect.

At 1/18/12 12:45 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: I will also have to highly recommand the album Bergtatt by Norwegian band Ulver. It is a most for black metallers. It is less agressive

I very much agree with this. It is one of the first Black Metal albums I liked. Either way, if you're new to BM you may want to listen several times and really try to understand it.

Also, I'd like to recommend Taake as it's slightly more melodic than a lot of BM bands. And the production isn't bad either.

At 1/18/12 01:45 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Sorry for hurting your feelings Sense ;)

I ain't mad.

Though I believe Danzig is fantastic.

At 1/18/12 01:27 AM, twistex wrote:

woah. Hold the fuck on. You did not just say that Danzig is "not so fantastic". Tell me you didn't say that.

Van Halen and Danzig are some of my favorite old bands that i listen to frequently.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
VAN HALEN!!!!!!
BRING ON THE PAIN!!!! O:
sorry i had to get that out of my system
i like van halen and danzig :D

Eruption is awesome, but the rest...meh

At 1/18/12 01:51 AM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 1/18/12 01:45 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Sorry for hurting your feelings Sense ;)

I ain't mad.

Though I believe Danzig is fantastic.

Is that so? And what album would you consider their best? I mean, I can still try to understand why you like them so much, and maybe it will grow on me.

At 1/18/12 01:50 AM, K2LU wrote: Also, I'd like to recommend Taake as it's slightly more melodic than a lot of BM bands. And the production isn't bad either.

Seconded. Taake makes some of the best Black Metal :)

Sonata Arctica - Abandonned, Pleased, Brainwashed, Exploited

Saying Danzig sucks makes you lose a lot of credibility to me, what's their to hate about his music? Sure, he himself is a douche, but his music's great and actually really consistent.

Also, Skid Row is awesome - everyone should listen to Skid Row. I wouldn't call them totally metal, but they're great regardless.

But eh, Duff, regardless of the fact that about 2/3's of that list is popular(Come on, you have no fucking clue who Joan Jett, Rollins band, Husker Du, Bad Brains, Sonic Youth, etc. are - don't lie) and the fact that there's maybe five or six awful bands on the list, it's still a great list.

Also, I feel it's worth mentioning that Kiss is Symphony X's single biggest influence and Michael Romeo has even said that if it wasn't for Kiss he never even would've picked up the guitar in the first place...

At 1/14/12 03:25 PM, Bahamut wrote: Damn, you sure know where to find rarer gems in traditional metal. Somehow the underground traditional metal bands I come across don't quite compare to what you dig up.

I feel like you're giving me too much credit. The nice people who upload those rare albums are the ones who deserve the credit.

At 1/16/12 10:23 PM, Viper50 wrote: hey quick question for anyone who cares
has anyone here ever heard of the band Captain Beyond?
i was going through my record collection and found a record of theirs

Which record is it? I've only heard their first two albums. The first was the better of the two, but they're both good.

At 1/17/12 03:15 PM, TheCrimsonWidow wrote: I plan on sticking around, this place is friendly and unlike the old clubs I've been in I don't get laughed at for liking King Crimson.

People laughed at you for liking King Crimson? I don't believe you. That would be a new low for idiots everywhere.

You guys should check out Bow Wow. Japanese heavy metal from the 70s. Probably Japan's first heavy metal band. Pretty damn good stuff. Kyoji Yamamoto is a great guitarist.

At 1/17/12 03:15 PM, TheCrimsonWidow wrote: I plan on sticking around, this place is friendly and unlike the old clubs I've been in I don't get laughed at for liking King Crimson.

Laughed at for liking one of the best prog bands of all time? I hope said old club drops into Robert Christgau's self righteous asshole and never comes back.

Also, do yo guys know of any pre-metal songs that are extremely heavy? This excludes Blue Cheer. Blue Cheer would be cheating.

At 1/18/12 07:25 AM, Tobi wrote: Also, do yo guys know of any pre-metal songs that are extremely heavy? This excludes Blue Cheer. Blue Cheer would be cheating.

Forgot to post my example, ELP - Barbarian

thumbs up for ELP. I have the self titled, Tarkus, Pictures at an Exhibition, Trilogy, and Brain Salad Surgery. I love them all.

At 1/18/12 02:17 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Is that so? And what album would you consider their best?

hmm... I dunno. I could go with Danzig 1, 2, or 3. I dig Danzig because I like bluesy stuff a lot. I listen to a lot of blues tinted stoner rock and such.

At 1/18/12 04:38 AM, TheCrimsonWidow wrote: Love how you guy like King Crimson as much as I do, you guys beat those metalcore assholes by a lot! Since Devin was in another awesome band, I'm checking to see what else Fripps was in (Fuck clapton, Fripps is god!)

Fripp did some decent solo work and also collaborated with Brian Eno to make some nice stuff.

Bill Bruford, the best drummer they ever had and one of the best drummers ever IMO, was also in Yes and had some good solo albums. He also has a jazz band called Earthworks that is very good. My favorite song is Terratoma. And he was a guest musician on one of the songs by Gordian Knot, which is a great band that has had many guest musicians such as John Myung, Trey Gunn, Steve Hackett, and Ron Jarzombek, who is a phenomenal guitarist, in case you haven't heard of him. I think his brother, Bobby Jarzombek, who is an incredible drummer, was also on a song of theirs.

Tony Levin has a solo project with some good stuff. I like his cover of the Sabre Dance.

Of course, you probably know than Greg Lake was in Emerson, Lake & Palmer, which had another one of the greatest drummers ever, Carl Palmer (I'll take Bruford over him, though, because his rythym and the beats are just better).

Also, I agree that Fripp is more interesting and original and just plain writes better stuff than Clapton, but I still like him.

At 1/18/12 06:03 AM, AniMetal wrote: Saying Danzig sucks makes you lose a lot of credibility to me, what's their to hate about his music?

He was just saying that Danzig isn't all that great, but still decent.

But eh, Duff, regardless of the fact that about 2/3's of that list is popular(Come on, you have no fucking clue who Joan Jett, Rollins band, Husker Du, Bad Brains, Sonic Youth, etc. are - don't lie)

The only ones there I haven't heard of are Husker and Du. Everybody knows Joan Jett, and Rollins Band is quite well known.

What do you guys think of WallofYawn's posts regarding metal subgenres? According to his point of view, doom metal, progressive metal, power metal, black metal, death metal and others aren't real subgenres. Here's just a few excerpts. I hope he doesn't mind me doing this.

"Thrash Metal should include death metal and black metal, because they are just heavier versions. Those sub-genres should not even exist, because they're pointless and stupid really. I mean, don't get me wrong, I like bands like At the Gates, The Haunted, Death, Atheist, Pesticide, Nile, and Alchemist, but really, they're still thrash metal, just at times heavier and more "wall of sound" ish, with more "blast beats."(a technical term for frantically banging on the drums like a chimpanzee)"

"Power Metal and Classical Metal are not much different than a lot of the 80s rock groups played on radio and the like, only they sing about gay shit, like wizards and dragons. They should call it nerd metal."

"Progressive metal? Shit, this is just another way of saying, 'pretentious math lovers who are obsessed with odd time signatures.' "

I definitely disagree, but what do y'all think?

At 1/18/12 06:18 AM, Dalnaki wrote:

At 1/16/12 10:23 PM, Viper50 wrote: hey quick question for anyone who cares
has anyone here ever heard of the band Captain Beyond?
i was going through my record collection and found a record of theirs

Which record is it? I've only heard their first two albums. The first was the better of the two, but they're both good.

its the first one
i got it in a box of records that my dad bought
it also had a few Deep Purple records my King Crimson record and my Houses Of The Holy (my favorite Zep album :D)

At 1/18/12 08:52 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: shit, like wizards and dragons. They should call it nerd metal."

Funny, cause that's I always looked at it. :P
But yeah, I disagree with it too.

Also, look at what arrived in the mail today.

At 1/18/12 10:48 AM, Viper50 wrote: Houses Of The Holy (my favorite Zep album :D)

Houses Of The Holy is a close second for me. My favorite is their second album, though I would have to say my all time favorite Zeppelin song is The Ocean.

At 1/18/12 12:42 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 1/17/12 12:47 PM, Bahamut wrote: I should assume you have heard some of their stuff but possibly not listened through their back catalogue. First five albums are a must.

I do know some of their tracks, but never got an entire album and never listenned to their music enough to pretend to fully understand their work if not just one of their albums. I know I'm missing on quite a big piece of history. But I can't get any albums right now...

Well, when you do check them out, you have some excellent material to hear. I would have thought you'd have at least checked out Paranoid. Yes, that is one fantastic record of theirs but Master of Reality will always be my best Sabbath album.

You know, I should probably check which biggest rock artist out there I haven't even sat down and listened to.

I should keep that in mind but if there's any years I need to expand, it's mostly the 60s. Still surprised how little I have from that decade.

Good little exercise we did there :) It helps get a better overview of your own library. When you got a lot of music, it's nice to be able to look at it from a different point of view.

Oh yeah, I'm glad I did have a look back at my overall library. Better decide which 60s artists I should explore.

Same here. But I don't do much of an effort to keep track of the upcoming releases. I did ask you guys for informations on where to find out about these new releases, a few weeks ago. Still didn't get much feedback.

You can check on the upcoming releases list on Metal-Archives and Metalstorm. You'll generally find a lot of stuff from there. Better ways to hear about bands you know that are releasing stuff or going on a world tour are for their representing Twitter and Facebook accounts.

At 1/18/12 06:18 AM, Dalnaki wrote:

At 1/14/12 03:25 PM, Bahamut wrote: Damn, you sure know where to find rarer gems in traditional metal. Somehow the underground traditional metal bands I come across don't quite compare to what you dig up.

I feel like you're giving me too much credit. The nice people who upload those rare albums are the ones who deserve the credit.

You still helped with passing the link around. Of course, I will give these uploaders bigger credit for providing them to us in the first place.

At 1/18/12 08:52 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: I definitely disagree, but what do y'all think?

At least he can simplify the stuff but I do disagree on a large scale.

At 1/18/12 07:25 AM, Tobi wrote: Also, do yo guys know of any pre-metal songs that are extremely heavy? This excludes Blue Cheer. Blue Cheer would be cheating.

Fruit and Icebergs.

At 1/18/12 08:52 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: I definitely disagree, but what do y'all think?

He's pulling some genres don't exist type bullshit. Not worth your time.

At 1/18/12 10:48 AM, Viper50 wrote: its the first one

Then listen to it.

At 1/18/12 10:59 AM, K2LU wrote:

At 1/18/12 08:52 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: shit, like wizards and dragons. They should call it nerd metal."

Funny, cause that's I always looked at it. :P
But yeah, I disagree with it too.

Also, look at what arrived in the mail today.

sweet shirt O:
i feel like finding your house and stealing it
i love ghost o_o

At 1/18/12 01:37 PM, Dalnaki wrote:

At 1/18/12 10:48 AM, Viper50 wrote: its the first one

Then listen to it.

i will now

At 1/18/12 11:01 AM, K2LU wrote:

At 1/18/12 10:48 AM, Viper50 wrote: Houses Of The Holy (my favorite Zep album :D)

Houses Of The Holy is a close second for me. My favorite is their second album, though I would have to say my all time favorite Zeppelin song is The Ocean.

i love Led Zeppelin 2
then again they are in my top 5 all time favorite bands
seriously there is nothing i dont like by them
in order of my favorite albums would be

1) Houses Of The Holy
2 tie) Led Zeppelin 1 & 2
3) Led Zeppelin 4
4) Led Zeppelin 3
5) Physical Graffiti
6) How The West Was Won (granted its not a studio album i just like it A LOT)
7) In Through The Out Door
8) Coda
9) Presence

if you cant tell i love led zeppelin
so yeah...

favorite song would be either Over The Hills And Far Away or Black Dog
and i can play D'Yer Mak'er, Black Dog, Heartbreaker (except the solo), and like half of Stairway To Heaven

At 1/18/12 03:12 PM, TheCrimsonWidow wrote: Does Metal Hell have a facebook or a URL, because (god I sound noobish) I want to see the current members, regulars, all that jazz :3

Well, there's a Facebook Group, but not all Newgrounds Members post there or are members of the facebook group and vice versa.

If Quiet Riot and Angra sound anything alike to someone, that someone needs to fall off a cliff.

80's glam and 90's/00's power metal have NOTHING in common, other than guitar solos and maybe falsetto vocals.

At 1/18/12 08:52 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: What do you guys think of WallofYawn's posts regarding metal subgenres? According to his point of view, doom metal, progressive metal, power metal, black metal, death metal and others aren't real subgenres. Here's just a few excerpts. I hope he doesn't mind me doing this.

I definitely disagree, but what do y'all think?

It's shit all the way. He doesn't know much about all the genres he's complainning about. I answered his post in the Stoner Club.

At 1/18/12 01:15 PM, Bahamut wrote:

At 1/18/12 12:42 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: I do know some of their tracks, but never got an entire album and never listenned to their music enough to pretend to fully understand their work if not just one of their albums. I know I'm missing on quite a big piece of history. But I can't get any albums right now...

Well, when you do check them out, you have some excellent material to hear. I would have thought you'd have at least checked out Paranoid. Yes, that is one fantastic record of theirs but Master of Reality will always be my best Sabbath album.

I did. Paranoid is the one I already checked into. But not in depth. I'm not expert of this album :P I will also check out Master of Reality if you say it's good.

Good little exercise we did there :) It helps get a better overview of your own library. When you got a lot of music, it's nice to be able to look at it from a different point of view.

Oh yeah, I'm glad I did have a look back at my overall library. Better decide which 60s artists I should explore.

All I have from the 60's is music by the Beach Boys and Stevie Wonder.

You can check on the upcoming releases list on Metal-Archives and Metalstorm. You'll generally find a lot of stuff from there. Better ways to hear about bands you know that are releasing stuff or going on a world tour are for their representing Twitter and Facebook accounts.

Thanks.

At 1/18/12 08:52 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: I definitely disagree, but what do y'all think?

At least he can simplify the stuff but I do disagree on a large scale.

What's the point of simplifying if you can't get anything right. If I had to grade him on his knowledge of Metal I'd give him 11%...

At 1/18/12 03:12 PM, TheCrimsonWidow wrote: Does Metal Hell have a facebook or a URL, because (god I sound noobish) I want to see the current members, regulars, all that jazz :3

Well, you've seen pretty much all the regulars so far. You have talked with all of the horsemen, you've seen AniMetal, Haggard, TheSporkLord, rockreaper, Tobi, Dalnaki, Bruce, twistez, K2LU, Idio. I know I'm forgetting some of you guys. But if you just stick around you'll know who's who soon enough :) And the regulars you have seen yet will most likely post sometime in the near future...

... Kind of makes me wonder where the hell is Ponos ...

At 1/18/12 03:14 PM, Haggard wrote:

At 1/18/12 03:12 PM, TheCrimsonWidow wrote: Does Metal Hell have a facebook or a URL, because (god I sound noobish) I want to see the current members, regulars, all that jazz :3

Well, there's a Facebook Group, but not all Newgrounds Members post there or are members of the facebook group and vice versa.

Isn't that the group Bill created as he left the Metal Hell? If it wasn't such an obvious "fuck you" to the NG Metal Hell, I wouldn't mind joinning...

Sonata Arctica - The Cage

So...I discovered it really sucks to live in Indiana when it comes to (metal) concerts. All the bands I want to see seem to skip us, or if they do they play at a 21 or older club. I've missed out on a lot of great concerts that way. Hell, Mastodon was here with Red Fang for pretty good prices, but only at the 21+ place. GAH! Is quite infuriating.

At 1/18/12 07:17 PM, Zodir wrote: So...I discovered it really sucks to live in Indiana when it comes to (metal) concerts. All the bands I want to see seem to skip us, or if they do they play at a 21 or older club. I've missed out on a lot of great concerts that way. Hell, Mastodon was here with Red Fang for pretty good prices, but only at the 21+ place. GAH! Is quite infuriating.

i know how you feel dude :/
i live in Illinois
and whenever there are decent bands they are either too far away or close enough BUT the shows are 21+
sometimes i hate the fact im 18...
but i guess i can always find the bands afterwards and tackle then kidnap them and force them to plays private concerts in my basement for my own amusement and i'll pay them in gummy worms and cans of sprite :D

At 1/18/12 07:17 PM, Zodir wrote: So...I discovered it really sucks to live in Indiana when it comes to (metal) concerts. All the bands I want to see seem to skip us, or if they do they play at a 21 or older club. I've missed out on a lot of great concerts that way. Hell, Mastodon was here with Red Fang for pretty good prices, but only at the 21+ place. GAH! Is quite infuriating.

I'm 22, so I don't give a fuck :)

Oh wait, I live in Quebec, so legal age is 18. So I've been not giving a fuck for 4 years already. Life is sweet :)

At 1/18/12 07:57 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I'm 22, so I don't give a fuck :)

Oh wait, I live in Quebec, so legal age is 18. So I've been not giving a fuck for 4 years already. Life is sweet :)

I am sending massive waves of envy towards you at this very moment.

At 1/18/12 08:18 PM, Zodir wrote:

At 1/18/12 07:57 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I'm 22, so I don't give a fuck :)

Oh wait, I live in Quebec, so legal age is 18. So I've been not giving a fuck for 4 years already. Life is sweet :)

I am sending massive waves of envy towards you at this very moment.

I actually can't believe the legal age of drinking is 21 in many states in the USA. And I actually can't believe they won't make an exception for concerts.

I mean, we have these brewers in Quebec, they hold bars named "Les Trois Brasseurs", they make some of the greatest beer I have ever drank. Funny thing is, that they are not legaly a bar, but a restaurant. So I'm there drinking beer with my girlfriend and a buddy, and I see a little girl going down the stairs. I like "Wait what?!"

And they can't make exceptions for concerts in bars? I remember when we had this concert hall named Le Medley in Montreal near my Uni. They would ask for IDs at the entrance and give a specific color bracelet at the entrance to mark those who were 18 and older and those who were younger then 18. I thought that was a great idea. Especially considering the fact that the Metal community is still kind of young. I know the fanbase's average age varies between bands, but you know what I mean.

Oh wait, I live in Quebec, so legal age is 18. So I've been not giving a fuck for 4 years already. Life is sweet :)

Wait me too I live in Quebec , where do you live (Si c'est personnel PM moi)

lolllllll

At 1/18/12 01:37 PM, Dalnaki wrote: Fruit and Icebergs.

Lol, I guess that counts as "not Blue Cheer".