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Metal Hell

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Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-16 18:28:47


So a friend just shot me this list, according to him it was the top 100 bands in hard rock, classic rock, metal, punk, glam and industrial. The list was created by VH1 with the help of over 200 "critically acclaimed" musicians, producers and critics.

100. Quiet Riot
99. Bad Brains
98. Mountain
97. Primus
96. Meatloaf
95. Fugazi
94. Yes
93. Lenny Kravitz
92. The Black Crowes
91. The Misfits/Danzig
90. Rainbow
89. Lita Ford
88. Foreigner
87. The Pixies
86. King Crimson
85. Whitesnake
84. King's X
83. U.F.O.
82. Queensryche
81. Dream Theater
80. Tool
79. Rammstein
78. Type O Negative
77. Hole
76. Operation Ivy
75. Spinal Tap
74. Pat Benatar
73. Twisted Sister
72. Foo Fighters
71. Lynyrd Skynyrd
70. Living Colour
69. Megadeth
68. Husker Du
67. The Rolling Stones
66. Joan Jett and the Blackhearts
65. The Cult
64. Steppenwolf
63. Boston
62. Ministry
61. Jethro Tull
60. New York Dolls
59. Bad Company
58. Anthrax
57. Heart
56. White Zombie/Rob Zombie
55. Blue Oyster Cult
54. Sonic Youth
53. Suicidal Tendencies
52. Faith No More
51. Thin Lizzy
50. Slayer
49. Smashing Pumpkins
48. Janis Joplin
47. Rollins Band
46. The Scorpions
45. Pantera
44. ZZTOP
43. Nine Inch Nails
42. The Kinks
41. Ted Nugent
40. Stone Temple Pilots
39. Neil Young
38. MC5
37. The Yardbirds
36. Frank Zappa
35. Jane's Addiction
34. Alice In Chains
33. Rage Against the Machine
32. The Doors
31. Def Leppard
30. Red Hot Chili Peppers
29. Motley Crue
28. Rush
27. Iggy Pop
26. Motorhead
25. Cheap Trick
24. Iron Maiden
23. Judas Priest
22. Deep Purple
21. Pearl Jam
20. Alice Cooper
19. The Clash
18. Ozzy Osbourne
17. The Ramones
16. Cream
15. Pink Floyd
14. Soundgarden
13. Queen
12. The Sex Pistols
11. Aerosmith
10. KISS
9. Guns N Roses
8. The Who
7. Van Halen
6. Nirvana
5. Metallica
4. AC/DC
3. The Jimi Hendrix Experience
2. Black Sabbath
1. Led Zeppelin

What are all your thoughts on the list? Personally, I think the list is great and even if I don't like every band, a case can be argued for their place on the list regardless.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-16 20:15:15


At 1/16/12 06:28 PM, AniMetal wrote: So a friend just shot me this list, according to him it was the top 100 bands in hard rock, classic rock, metal, punk, glam and industrial. The list was created by VH1 with the help of over 200 "critically acclaimed" musicians, producers and critics.

An amazing list dude, although some bands I did not know like Bad Brains or Fugazi..


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-16 21:12:04


At 1/16/12 06:28 PM, AniMetal wrote: So a friend just shot me this list, according to him it was the top 100 bands in hard rock, classic rock, metal, punk, glam and industrial. The list was created by VH1 with the help of over 200 "critically acclaimed" musicians, producers and critics.

hmm i like quite a few of the bands that were listed
i mean granted i dont entirely agree on how they are listed
i mean how is nirvana #6?
granted in a HUGE nirvana fan
but there is NO way they are better than ALL of those other bands
and i liked how Spinal Tap was mentioned
i LOVED This Is Spinal Tap and i watch it as often as i can
and i also liked how they grouped together The Misfits and Danzig and White Zombie and Rob Zombie
but other than that its a pretty good list and


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-16 21:14:20


At 1/16/12 01:40 PM, TheCrimsonWidow wrote: WOAH, I did not expect to be that out of the know. You guys are posting awesome sounding bands, while I'm stuck on a loop between Broas Helm albums that I listened to a thosand times (no joke, computer says 1152 times) . Any good band that I can ease into before hitting the heavy stuff?

So that's the list you posted when you joinned:

Megadeth
Slayer
Exciter
3 Inches Of Blood
Bocas Helm
Anthrax
Twin Tornado
Motorhead
Black Sabbath.

Do you want to expend on that list and get some more old-school heavy and thrash metal recommandations? Or maybe would you like us to recommand bands we think you could like?

Some of the guys will be better than I to recommand older bands, I will try to list bands you might like based on your tastes, but they will most likely be more recent bands. I will provide links to good tracks by the bands two. I think that's handy :)

So...
Band - Track

Labyrinth - Moonlight

Progressive Power Metal band. I think they are fantastic :)

Blind Guardian - Mirror Mirror

Power / Thrash Metal band. Another fantastic band.

Iron Maiden - Fear Of The Dark

I assume you already know this band of British Heavy Metal. But you didn't list them... So I didn't take any chance... Here's a link :)

Control Denied - Consumed

Chuck Schuldiner from the band Death was in this band. Unlike Death, this band plays a sexy brand of Progressive Power Metal with the nice personnality of all music written by Schuldiner.

Yngwie Malmsteen

Some very intense and melodic Neoclassical Metal. If you like beautiful guitar leads and epic melodies, you will like Malmsteen :)

Watchtower - Asylum

One of the sexiest and most unique Thrash Metal albums ever written. This is Prog Thrash at his best. I swear !

Voyager - Land Of The Lies

Very epic Power Metal band, minus the cheesyness. Which is incredible :) I love this album !

UFO - Doctor Doctor

Yeah yeah! They are not metal, so what? They are Proto Metal. They are one of the greatest influences on Heavy Metal. A must, especially for someone who likes old school metal :)

Meanstreak - Roadkill

A bunch of female musicians killing it big time on a Thrash / Traditionnal Metal album. You should definitely check this one out.

Sonata Arctica - Victoria's Secret

Great Power Metal band right there. This one track is one of my favorites, from my favorite album by them :)

I really hope my list was of some kind of help. Feedback appreciated :)

At 1/16/12 02:34 AM, AllMightyBruce wrote: 2005 - 277
2006 - 301
2007 - 391

Fuck you :'(

Not all metal, of course. There's a bunch more 2011 stuff I haven't added to my library yet, though so that number isn't entirely accurate.

Same here. I included everything, metal or not. I think I'm going to do a little graphic with my albums per year. Might look better than a simple list :)

So your best years were the 2000, with a peek between 2004 and 2007. Thanks for doing the list :)

At 1/16/12 11:49 AM, Bahamut wrote: My standings:

I really thought you would have had more albums then this on your library. But still, you have a decent amount of albums for most of the years on your list. Which is cool. I don't have enough old stuff in my library. I will try to expend on that. I know I should get myself some Beatles album for one thing. And some Black Sabbath would also be welcome :)

But hey, if you want recommandations for 2000 stuff, hit me up :)

2011 is a clear winner for mine and it would have been crazier if I put every single album I had heard online onto my library. It would be at 70. I wonder if 2012 will be even bigger. Also, looking at this makes me realise how little of 60s albums I have considering the years 1963-1966 are nothing but Beatles.

I have very little from 2011. But again, I'm never keeping up with new releases and I often hear of the good albums two or three years after they are released.

Labyrinth - Lady Lost In Time

Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-16 21:28:47


At 1/16/12 06:28 PM, AniMetal wrote: list of 100 shitty overated bands

So... old bands... overated hard rock bands... some more old bands... some generic rock bands... some more old bands... and finishing with Led Zeppelin at position #1. The fuck you posted that list for?

This fuckin' list is another shit made by people who know less bands than we all individualy do. All they do is name the same shitty bands all the time and not even aknowledge that bands like Blotted Science, Agalloch, Symphony X.

The very little metal there is on the list is either old thrash metal, old heavy metal or Dream Theater. Whenever a dick makes a list of best metal and rock bands... you get the usual old bands like Motorhead, Pantera, Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, Anthrax, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest... and they usually throw in Dream Theater to show that the know about metal bands that are not 30 years old or older...

In the top 10 you have KISS, Nirvana and AC/DC. I can pick three bands at random from my own library and they are most likely going to be bands who can display more skill on instruments, better song-writting abilities, more originality and more personnality.

No seriously... I'm not saying this list is all bad. Most bands on there are good. But I'm tired of these so called top 100 bands f all time lists. They are always the same... and there is never any band that isn't uber-over-well-known and popular on their lists. Like... come on... Blotted Science? Spastic Ink? Watchtower? Ron Jarzombeck isn't just one of these kids who knows how to play guitar... He's... RON JARZOMBECK! For Christ sake !

Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-16 22:21:39


blah blah blah
Metal?
fuck no
I'm outta here

Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-16 22:23:53


hey quick question for anyone who cares
has anyone here ever heard of the band Captain Beyond?
i was going through my record collection and found a record of theirs but i haven't really gotten around to playing it. so i wanted to know if anyone here has listened to them to see if its worth listening to. i tried selling it but no one wanted it. its not "metal" its a mix of progressive rock and hard rock and has members from: Deep Purple, Iron Butterfly, Johnny Winter, Derringer, Double Trouble, and Armageddon in it.

oh and quick question for HeavenDuff
did you get the email i sent you?


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-16 22:45:59


At 1/16/12 10:12 PM, TheCrimsonWidow wrote: Duff, you read my mind. I was looking for some new thrash metal band, and maybe to get into black metal like I always said I would. UFO and Watchtower are the only ones I got into for now, but they blew me away. Especially Watchtower, I dripped a little bit during one song ^_^

Yummy :P

What kind of Black Metal are you interrested in? Earlier Black Metal is still a lot like Thrash Metal. Maybe you would like it. There is more agressive, rawer and heavier black metal. Or maybe you would like Atmospheric Black Metal which is... atmospheric, slower and tends to progress slowly over long tracks. There is some Depressive Black Metal. And em, maybe you could like some of the Avant-garde Black Metal bands. Any idea where you would like to start? :)

Sigh - Introitus/Kyrie

This band is amazing. I love this one record. It's kind of complex though, especially if you are not used to black metal and avant-garde. This one album mixes Thrash Metal with Black Metal. They use various instruments like a saxophone and an organ along with the usual metal set-up.

Whatever. I love their music.

Immortal - Wrath From Above

Immortal plays an heavily influenced by black metal brand of thrash metal. It's great and far more accessible than Sigh, imo. But both are great.

Enjoy :)

At 1/16/12 10:21 PM, BillPatton wrote: blah blah blah
Metal?
fuck no
I'm outta here

Can you stop that please?

At 1/16/12 10:23 PM, Viper50 wrote: oh and quick question for HeavenDuff
did you get the email i sent you?

Yes I did. Sorry for not answering... But I did.

At 1/16/12 10:24 PM, TheCrimsonWidow wrote: Also, don't trust VH1, MTV, or any music TV, they're knowledge of real music is as small as a fly's grasp on nuclear physics (let me dumb this down, THEY FUCKING SUCK!)

You don't say :O

Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-16 22:47:47


At 1/16/12 10:45 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
At 1/16/12 10:23 PM, Viper50 wrote: oh and quick question for HeavenDuff
did you get the email i sent you?
Yes I did. Sorry for not answering... But I did.

ah its okay
so what did you think of it?


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-16 22:54:59


At 1/16/12 10:47 PM, Viper50 wrote:
At 1/16/12 10:45 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
At 1/16/12 10:23 PM, Viper50 wrote: oh and quick question for HeavenDuff
did you get the email i sent you?
Yes I did. Sorry for not answering... But I did.
ah its okay
so what did you think of it?

I didn't listen to it yet. But I will soon enough :)
Thanks a lot!

Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-16 22:58:24


At 1/16/12 10:54 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I didn't listen to it yet. But I will soon enough :)
Thanks a lot!

ah okay
your welcome dude


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-17 08:30:27


At 1/16/12 09:28 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: This fuckin' list is another shit made by people who know less bands than we all individualy do. All they do is name the same shitty bands all the time and not even aknowledge that bands like Blotted Science, Agalloch, Symphony X.

Maybe because Agalloch didn't become popular until the 00's, Symphony X played like four shows in the 90's and Blotted Science didn't even exist yet...? Apparently you missed the part where I said the list was assembled in the year 2000.

And... what are you on about? It's a mixture of lots of hard rock, progressive rock, classic rock, grunge, industrial, metal and punk(both older punk and the 90's hardcore punk)

And the big four, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Pantera, Faith No More, arguably Danzig, Type O Negative, Living Colour, King's X, Dream Theater, Lita Ford, arguably Van Halen, Motorhead, Suicidal Tendencies, Queensryche, etc. - seems like a lot more metal than you're giving the list credit for.

It's also worth mentioning that some of the "honorable mentions" included Skid Row, Sepultura, Fear Factory and Yngwie.

So... considering this was a list for all things rock / metal / grunge / punk / industrial, I think this list was MORE than fair to metal. And the nonmetal stuff was mainly all great too.

And also, if you don't think Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath are the two most important bands to metal AND rock in the world, then you are clearly touched in the head.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-17 08:50:41


Oh, my bad - I just noticed that I 100% neglected to mention the year that list was made in my original post. My bad Duff, that's all on me.

HOWEVER, if this list was made today, the only metal bands that would land it would be Metallica, Maiden, Priest, Sabbath, Ozzy, Pantera, MAYBE Faith No More, MAYBE Dream Theater, Van Halen and Motorhead.

Slayer, Megadeth, Anthrax, Danzig, Type O Negative, Living Colour, King's X, Suicidal Tendencies, Queensryche and U.F.O. would all be left out if this list.

The only NEW "metal" bands that MIGHT make the list would've been tons of core, maybe Black Label Society and maybe The Sword. (The last two, purely because both of those bands are loved to death by other musicians and critics - not popularity in general)

Also, if the list was made today, the ONLY industrial band to have made the list would've been Nine Inch Nails - and Faith No More if you count them as industrial. And as for punk, no hardcore would've been mentioned whatsoever.

And every grunge band, aside Nirvana obviously, would've probably been in the 80's/90's.

If this list was compiled today by "over 200 critically acclaimed musicians, producers and critics" it most likely would've been SHITLOADS of newschool stuff to proof how "hip" said people are, as well as the classic rock bands to prove their legitimacy.

Although, if the list was made today, i'd hope Skid Row would be more than a honorable mention... because it's fucking Skid Row.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-17 12:47:52


At 1/16/12 06:28 PM, AniMetal wrote: The list was created by VH1

I'll proceed with caution. Looking at the list, as far as rock goes, it seems reasonable, although Guns N' Roses above Queen? That I disagree with since Queen are miles better than GnR. Then again, I don't even like them that much these days. Still, I expected much worse and thankfully it wasn't that bad. Now if only they could remake their best heavy metal songs list with the same heavy metal related contributors.

At 1/16/12 09:14 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
At 1/16/12 11:49 AM, Bahamut wrote: My standings:
I really thought you would have had more albums then this on your library.

Heh, even if it represents my CD collection well? I suppose I don't put enough effort into download hunting, particularly for ultra rare stuff. I have a browse on Heavy Metal Rarities once in a while and do find good stuff from there.

I know I should get myself some Beatles album for one thing.

For sure. Always good to look into some of the biggest artists in the world. If you are actually looking into them, I do recommend Sgt. Peppers and Abbey Road.

And some Black Sabbath would also be welcome :)

I should assume you have heard some of their stuff but possibly not listened through their back catalogue. First five albums are a must.

But hey, if you want recommandations for 2000 stuff, hit me up :)

I should keep that in mind but if there's any years I need to expand, it's mostly the 60s. Still surprised how little I have from that decade.

I have very little from 2011. But again, I'm never keeping up with new releases and I often hear of the good albums two or three years after they are released.

One thing for sure, I'm more on my toes for new metal releases than I am for everything else including films and games.

Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-17 12:54:14


I was looking for 80´sheavy metal band, When i found Tank and i noticed that the singer´s voice is like the voice of Gene Simmons.

If you want check it...
Tank - Honour and Blood


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The cold wind and the snow of this night, whips my heart of pure ice

My cold blood is running through my veins, but my soul burns like an everlasting flame

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Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-17 13:13:08


I tell you, getting into Black Metal is an interesting experience (in a good way that is). Also, it's fun having a fellow female in Metal Hell. Stick around. :)

You might have seen this, but if you haven't, here are two kids covering Darkthrone.

Oh, and I got myself a Last.fm account. Add me if you want.

Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-17 13:48:55


At 1/17/12 01:13 PM, K2LU wrote: I tell you, getting into Black Metal is an interesting experience (in a good way that is). Also, it's fun having a fellow female in Metal Hell. Stick around. :)

I´m a fan of Black metal but it isn´t my favorite metal genre.
I known a few Black metal bands like:
Abused Majesty
Cradle Of Filth
Dimmu Borgir
Immanifest
Will Of Ancients
And a few more..


Metal Hell

The cold wind and the snow of this night, whips my heart of pure ice

My cold blood is running through my veins, but my soul burns like an everlasting flame

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Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-17 15:26:48


At 1/17/12 03:15 PM, TheCrimsonWidow wrote:
At 1/17/12 01:13 PM, K2LU wrote: I tell you, getting into Black Metal is an interesting experience (in a good way that is). Also, it's fun having a fellow female in Metal Hell. Stick around. :)

You might have seen this, but if you haven't, here are two kids covering Darkthrone.

Oh, and I got myself a Last.fm account. Add me if you want.
I plan on sticking around, this place is friendly and unlike the old clubs I've been in I don't get laughed at for liking King Crimson.I hate Last.Fm to be honest, so I stick to Youtube for searching new bands :3

I've really only listened to King Crimson's first album. I do love it, so I'm not sure why I haven't looked into their other albums. Maybe when I'm in the mood to listen to prog again, I will.

Dismember - Like An Ever Flowing Stream

Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-17 15:36:52


At 1/17/12 03:15 PM, TheCrimsonWidow wrote: I plan on sticking around, this place is friendly and unlike the old clubs I've been in I don't get laughed at for liking King Crimson.I hate Last.Fm to be honest, so I stick to Youtube for searching new bands :3

you listen to King Crimson?
i do too sometimes
although i only have In The Court Of The Crimson King and thats on vinyl :D
i love vinyl
i need more O:
my record collection is too small


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-17 15:50:58


At 1/17/12 03:43 PM, TheCrimsonWidow wrote: Gotta warn ya, K2, they had more than 10 lineup changes (!!!) and their style changed with each one. If you wanna hear their other albums, start with Red. :3

Will do! I've heard good things about that album.

Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-17 19:19:47


Dark Funeral cancelled the show i was supposed to see them at. fuck youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuu


Lost the love of heaven above, Chose the lust of the earth below

Eleven saintly shrouded men, Came to wash my sins away

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Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-17 20:53:28


At 1/17/12 04:02 AM, TheCrimsonWidow wrote: (i.e king crimson, favourite non metal band)

marry me

Also, since you asked about black metal, have some black metal recs.

Solefald (avant garde, not always black, every album is among my favorite albums ever)

Fleurety (so fucking underrated, and also avant garde)

Ved Buens Ende (avant garde again, in fact one of the biggest names in avant garde)

Manes (only their first album is metal)

Lux Occulta (just the Mother and the Enemy. the other albums are mediocre at best, but that album is amazing)

Oranssi Pazuzu (avant garde yet again)

Ulver (Bergtatt and Mattens Nadrigal are their only metal albums, but everything they do is amazing)

Arcturus (only their early stuff is bm and the rest is avant garde metal)

Ihsahn (more like blackened prog metal, but still great)

Klabautamann (I've only heard Merkur, but it's one of my favorite bm albums)

Negura Bunget (particularly, the albums Om, N' Crugu Bradului, and Inarborat Kosmos)

Blut Aus Nord (particularly, the albums Ultima Thulee, Memoria Vetusta 1, and Memoria Vetusta 2)

Sigh (not all totally bm, but always good, especially Hangman's Hymn, Scenes From Hell, and Infidel Art, and for a more trad/power sound, Gallow's Gallery...and for something completely different, Imaginary Sonicscape)

Windir (folk/black, highlights including Arntor and 1184)

Diabolical Masquerade (particularly, Death's Design and Nightwork)

Agatus (particularly, the Weaving Fates)

Varathron (particularly, Walpurgisnacht)

Rotting Christ (it's all good, but highlights would include Non Serviam, Theogonia, Khronos, and Aelo)

Thorns

Emperor

Mayhem

Mirrorthrone (black/death)

I'd give ya more, but my Zune needs to recharge so I can't look at my black metal to refresh my memory.

At 1/17/12 03:36 PM, Viper50 wrote: although i only have In The Court Of The Crimson King and thats on vinyl :D

You and K2LU fail. That's a fantastic album, but they have a lot of amazing albums.

in the Wake of Poseidon
Red
Lark's Tongues in Aspic
Starless and Bible Black
Discipline
Thrak
the Power to Believe

I'd give all of those albums five stars, but pretty much any KC album is at the very least, decent.


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-17 21:16:46


Do you have some black metal that's actually hearable ?

Like a good song for a newcomer that want to get more easely in the black metal scene ???

I know just Too old Too cold by Darkthrone and some shit by Dimmu Borgir that I don't really like ...

And no Symphonic , mass Melodic , avant-garde shit or I dont know atmospheric black shit


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-17 22:51:51


/Post Infernal Majesty song. Someone says it sounds like slayer. /Kill self.

Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-17 23:40:46


Norwegians are weird.

He's saying "shut the fuck up" BTW.

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Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-18 00:39:39


Why bother watching this when I don't know a single norvegian words ?


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Response to Metal Hell 2012-01-18 00:42:53


At 1/17/12 08:30 AM, AniMetal wrote:
At 1/16/12 09:28 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: This fuckin' list is another shit made by people who know less bands than we all individualy do. All they do is name the

same shitty bands all the time and not even aknowledge that bands like Blotted Science, Agalloch, Symphony X.


Maybe because Agalloch didn't become popular until the 00's, Symphony X played like four shows in the 90's and

Blotted Science didn't even exist yet...? Apparently you missed the part where I said the list was assembled in the year

2000.

I definitely did. Because as soon as I saw that this list only included the same old over-popular bands I gave up. Got me

there. I draw conclusions to fast. But don't you think that the list would still be pretty much the same if it was made in

2012? My point stands. There is no Death, no Cynic, no Spastic Ink, no Watchtower. No nothing that isn't popular

and/or commercial and/or old.

Any Folk Metal, Black Metal, Death Metal, Power Metal, Black/Death, Doom Metal, Stoner Metal, Stoner Doom

could ever make it on a list like that? Of fucking course not!

And... what are you on about? It's a mixture of lots of hard rock, progressive rock, classic rock, grunge, industrial, metal

and punk(both older punk and the 90's hardcore punk)


And the big four, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Pantera, Faith No More, arguably Danzig, Type O Negative, Living

Colour, King's X, Dream Theater, Lita Ford, arguably Van Halen, Motorhead, Suicidal Tendencies, Queensryche, etc. -

seems like a lot more metal than you're giving the list credit for.

The typical list. You get the big four, Maiden, lame-ass Pantera, a bunch of not so fantastic bands like Van Halen, Danzig

and Motorhead... and Dream Theater.

Yeah, maybe I was too hard on that list. But... I just don't see the point of making these anymore. Seriously, what band is

on that list that you really wasn't expecting to be on the list? It's always the same, no matter who makes these lists

(magazines or web-zines with the help of some overrated artists who give too much credits to old bands).

Like I sais, there are good bands on that list. But dude, why Slayer? Why Rammstein? Wy AC/DC? Why KISS ? What

we have here is the usual top 100 bands list made by people who don't know any genre in depth.

It's also worth mentioning that some of the "honorable mentions" included Skid Row, Sepultura, Fear Factory and

Yngwie.

More big surprises...

So... considering this was a list for all things rock / metal / grunge / punk / industrial, I think this list was MORE than fair

to metal. And the nonmetal stuff was mainly all great too.

That list doesn't go in depth at all, and I bet you anything that you can pick up any random list of "best guitarists of all

time" or "best rock bands of all time" or "best metal bands of all time" and I can tell you it will most likely match this list

for a lot of different artists or bands. I'm still waiting for a list that will consider bands like Electric Wizard, Blotted

Science, Agalloch, High On Fire, Blood Red Throne and pretty much any band or genre that doesn't fit the very limited

understanding of Metal these people have. Oh yes, and I'm still waiting for a "best rock bands" list to include a few post-

rock bands. But hey, that would suggest that they actually aknowledge that this genre exists...

And also, if you don't think Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath are the two most important bands to metal AND rock in

the world, then you are clearly touched in the head.

Wait, I didn't say that. They were heavily influencial. Does that make them the best forever? Of fucking course not. I

already adressed that kind of argument in the past. Some band who influenced another band isn't automaticaly better than

the latest. Otherwise you would have to put all bands who have influenced Led Zeppeling above them on the list. Non-

sense.

At 1/17/12 08:50 AM, AniMetal wrote: Oh, my bad - I just noticed that I 100% neglected to mention the year that list was made in my original post. My bad

Duff, that's all on me.


HOWEVER, if this list was made today, the only metal bands that would land it would be Metallica, Maiden, Priest,

Sabbath, Ozzy, Pantera, MAYBE Faith No More, MAYBE Dream Theater, Van Halen and Motorhead.

Dream Theater will always make it. Wannabes will always put them on their list to show they can listen to prog.

Slayer, Megadeth, Anthrax, Danzig, Type O Negative, Living Colour, King's X, Suicidal Tendencies, Queensryche and

U.F.O. would all be left out if this list.

Maybe not Megadeth. And leaving UFO out would be one of their greatest mistakes... mistake they would most

definitely make...

The only NEW "metal" bands that MIGHT make the list would've been tons of core, maybe Black Label Society and

maybe The Sword. (The last two, purely because both of those bands are loved to death by other musicians and critics -

not popularity in general)

That.

If this list was compiled today by "over 200 critically acclaimed musicians, producers and critics" it most likely would've

been SHITLOADS of newschool stuff to proof how "hip" said people are, as well as the classic rock bands to prove

their legitimacy.

Yeah well, you adressed the same critic as I. Except I went all AVGN on them :P

Although, if the list was made today, i'd hope Skid Row would be more than a honorable mention... because it's fucking

Skid Row.

A band I still don't know shit about :)

At 1/17/12 12:47 PM, Bahamut wrote:
At 1/16/12 09:14 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I know I should get myself some Beatles album for one thing.
For sure. Always good to look into some of the biggest artists in the world. If you are actually looking into them, I do

recommend Sgt. Peppers and Abbey Road.

I will most likely start with these. I still need to get some of their LSD-influenced work, you know what I mean :)

And some Black Sabbath would also be welcome :)
I should assume you have heard some of their stuff but possibly not listened through their back catalogue. First five

albums are a must.

I do know some of their tracks, but never got an entire album and never listenned to their music enough to pretend to fully

understand their work if not just one of their albums. I know I'm missing on quite a big piece of history. But I can't get any

albums right now...

But hey, if you want recommandations for 2000 stuff, hit me up :)
I should keep that in mind but if there's any years I need to expand, it's mostly the 60s. Still surprised how little I have

from that decade.

Good little exercise we did there :) It helps get a better overview of your own library. When you got a lot of music, it's

nice to be able to look at it from a different point of view.

I have very little from 2011. But again, I'm never keeping up with new releases and I often hear of the good albums

two or three years after they are released.


One thing for sure, I'm more on my toes for new metal releases than I am for everything else including films and games.

Same here. But I don't do much of an effort to keep track of the upcoming releases. I did ask you guys for informations

on where to find out about these new releases, a few weeks ago. Still didn't get much feedback.

At 1/17/12 01:13 PM, K2LU wrote: I tell you, getting into Black Metal is an interesting experience (in a good way that is). Also, it's fun having a fellow

female in Metal Hell. Stick around. :)

Definitely, yes :)

Oh, and I got myself a Last.fm account. Add me if you want.

Will do !!!

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At 1/17/12 03:15 PM, TheCrimsonWidow wrote: I plan on sticking around, this place is friendly and unlike the old clubs I've been in I don't get laughed at for liking King

Crimson.I hate Last.Fm to be honest, so I stick to Youtube for searching new bands :3

What kind of Metal fan can laugh at King Crimson and even look at himself in the mirror in the morning?

Did you know that King Crimson's bassist also plays in various metal bands? Yup, Mister Tony Levin used to play with

Liquid Tension Experiment !!!

I hope you like it :)

Also, I'm quite happy that you like this place. We really want to make this place a welcoming club for Metal fans.

At 1/17/12 09:16 PM, Sepultura123 wrote: Do you have some black metal that's actually hearable ?

I find this to be kind of insulting... But whatever :P

Like a good song for a newcomer that want to get more easely in the black metal scene ???

Black Metal isn't meant to be accessible. I also don't want to recommand sbm bands as they don't really fit the aesthetic,

sound and philosophy of black metal. There is some "true" black metal that isn't as hard on the ears as the usual stuff. I

will try to recommand a few. To me, the earlier releases of Agalloch are between Black Metal, Folk Metal and Post-

Rock. Albums like Pale Folklore and the demo album From Which Of This Oak are bm enough for me. I will also have

to highly recommand the album Bergtatt by Norwegian band Ulver. It is a most for black metallers. It is less agressive

and better produced than their later effort Nattends Madrigal. Austere is a Depressive Black Metal band. I recommand

you check out their title Just for a Moment. Their music isn't all "easy listenning", but this one track is so beautiful and

rather more accessible than most of their stuff. I also highly recommand the band Chasse-Galerie. They play some well-

produced and not too agressive black metal. Their album Ars Moriendi is a fantastic listen. The band Chaos Moon

makes a kind of agressive bm. I really like it. But it's not... easy listenning bm. I also recommand the album La Sanie des

Siècles by Peste Noire. It's definitely a great Black Metal album. A must, if you ask me :)

I'll stop there though. There is more I could recommand, but I feel you should take it slowly and really take your time

when exploring Black Metal. To fully understand the music, more than one listen is required.

And no Symphonic , mass Melodic , avant-garde shit or I dont know atmospheric black shit

I mostly recommanded Folk/Black, Black Metal and one Depressive Black Metal band. Is that good with you?

At 1/17/12 11:40 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Norwegians are weird.
He's saying "shut the fuck up" BTW.

I lol'ed... 4 real.

At 1/18/12 12:39 AM, Sepultura123 wrote: Why bother watching this when I don't know a single norvegian words ?

One guy actually translated the words in the comment section.

At 1/17/12 09:58 PM, TheCrimsonWidow wrote: stuff.

I recommanded two bands earlier. Immortal and Sigh. Did you check them out?

UFO - Rock Bottom

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At 1/17/12 11:40 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Norwegians are weird.
He's saying "shut the fuck up" BTW.

I don't no what to say about this.
I find it quite amusing as hes just telling everyone to Hold kjeften på deg (Translation) Shut the Fuck up.


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being laughed at for liking King Crimson, possibly the greatest band that ever existed? They should be sodomized with splintery, broken broomsticks and then have sodium peroxide poured on their assholes.

At 1/18/12 12:39 AM, Sepultura123 wrote: Why bother watching this when I don't know a single norvegian words ?

First of all, I posted it just because it's so bizarre. Second, there are several comments that translate the whole thing.

At 1/18/12 12:42 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: a bunch of not so fantastic bands like Van Halen, Danzig

woah. Hold the fuck on. You did not just say that Danzig is "not so fantastic". Tell me you didn't say that.


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