At 12/25/11 08:50 AM, Haggard wrote:

At 12/25/11 06:14 AM, Coop wrote: Still, Neil Peart is a more gifted drummer than Lars :P

Wich isn't exactly an achievement. :P

True, but there are few that even come close to how good Neil Peart is.

But seriously, Lars is the right drummer for Metallica. It's not about how "awesome" someone is at something, it's what you make of the talent that you have. And in that aspect Lars has done everything right. ;)

Touche. I know that Lars isn't the best drummer and he can't play some of his own tunes any more, but he is the right drummer for Metalica. I just think that sometimes he can be a bit of a dick.

Christmas has been well so far, especially with getting most of the metal albums I asked for. Some family members I still need to see so I haven't received all of my presents yet. Presents aside, it's been a lot of fun speaking to my family.

At 12/24/11 12:23 PM, AniMetal wrote:

At 12/24/11 08:21 AM, Bahamut wrote: I thought that title belonged to Doom.

OH SHIT, YOU'RE RIGHT.

Hang on, is this us two agreeing with something?

At 12/25/11 08:50 AM, Haggard wrote: But seriously, Lars is the right drummer for Metallica. It's not about how "awesome" someone is at something, it's what you make of the talent that you have. And in that aspect Lars has done everything right. ;)

I feel even on the first few albums, Lars felt off key with some of the drumming or even have poor drum settings overall. That isn't to say Ride the Lightning sucks because of it, though because it's far from bad.

At 12/25/11 12:16 PM, Bahamut wrote:

At 12/25/11 08:50 AM, Haggard wrote: But seriously, Lars is the right drummer for Metallica. It's not about how "awesome" someone is at something, it's what you make of the talent that you have. And in that aspect Lars has done everything right. ;)

I feel even on the first few albums, Lars felt off key with some of the drumming or even have poor drum settings overall. That isn't to say Ride the Lightning sucks because of it, though because it's far from bad.

Yeah, the only "true" musician was Cliff, but he died. :(
The others are good, too. Kirk has some awesome soli and James' riff's are kick-ass, too. But I think with Cliff they might have been even better.

Happy Festivus and whatnot! Finally back for a bit, its crazy how much time I wasted on here. I've gotten so much stuff done.

Xmas was metal and non metal. One present this year and it was a $300 set of pickups for my axe. They will of course be used to make death metalz.

Not much new in the metal world, saw my friends play a gig with Abigail Williams, and I met decapitated's guitarist at another concert. And as always check out Cimmerian ( the new lenox one specifically). Oh, and Dissona.

so what did you guys get for christmas music wise

i got:
Red Fang - Murder The Mountains
Metallica - Ride The Lightning & Master Of Puppets
The Sword - Age Of Winter
and
Electric Wizard - Black Masses
^a present i got it for myself

At 12/24/11 11:24 PM, C-Ward wrote: Hey everyone, I've been kind of getting into metal lately and I've been stalking this thread for some good reccomendations. I have a list of some metal bands I listen to, but most of them, if not all of them are mainstream, and I was kinda hoping I could find some underground bands that fit my style.

System of a Down
RATM
Evans Blue
Megadeath
Anthrax
A7X
Strapping Young Lad
Testament
Lamb of God
Smashing Pumpkins

Are you asking to join? If you want to then you will have to add a few more bands to your list. System Of A Down doesn't really fit the definition we have of metal. They are a Nu-Metal band. Not bad, but not metal nonetheless. Rage Against The Machine is an hard rock band. Evans Blue is an Alternative Rock band. Megadeth is a Thrash Metal band, fine. Same for Anthrax. Avenged Sevenfold is a metalcore band, not what we are looking for. Strapping Young Lad is definitely good. It's a Death/Thrash band. Testament is a Thrash Metal band, which is ok. Lamb Of God are between Thrash Metal and Metalcore. They are on the verge, still acceptable :) And em... Smashing Pumpkins... they are an altenative rock band. Not Metal.

5 out of 10 of these bands are what we are looking for. The bands you like that we can accept are all linked to Thrash Metal. So my recommandations...

If you like Strapping Young Lad, you might like the other bands of Guitarist/Keyboardist/Vocalist Devin Townsend. His other projects are Devin Townsend and Devin Townsend Project. Great stuff.

If you like Megadeth and Anthrax you most likely already know or like bands like Slayer and Metallica. These four bands are considered the first four bands of Thrash Metal, commonly known as the Big Four.

For more Thrash Metal, check out bands like Kreator, Meanstreak, Watchtower, Morbid Saint and Sodom.

And some links to some of their tracks on YouTube :)

Kreator - Enemy Of God
Meanstreak - Roadkill
Watchtower - Asylum
Morbid Saint - Lock Up Your Children
Sodom - Agent Orange

Tell me if you like my recommandations or not :)

It's all over, friends!

At 12/25/11 01:54 PM, Haggard wrote: Yeah, the only "true" musician was Cliff, but he died. :(
The others are good, too. Kirk has some awesome soli and James' riff's are kick-ass, too. But I think with Cliff they might have been even better.

Can we both agree that Lars is the weakest musician in Metallica? :P

At 12/26/11 12:36 AM, Viper50 wrote: so what did you guys get for christmas music wise

Copypasta again.

Firewind - Burning Earth
Heathen - The Evolution of Chaos
Helstar - Nosferatu
Ludicra - Fex Urbis Lex Orbis
Motörhead - The World Is Ours, Vol. 1: Everywhere Further Than Everyplace Else
Saint Vitus - Born Too Late
Devin Townsend - Ghost
Trouble - Psalm 9
Warlock - Triumph & Agony

Some of them are my sister's stuff but we listen to the same music anyway.

i got:
Red Fang - Murder The Mountains

I'll be considering getting this, even though it's not part of the winter sales. I have seen Motörhead's Bastards for £5 online so that's worth grabbing.

Okay, so after spending the vast majority of my iTunes vouchers and so forth, I now have a definitive list of the music acquired for Xmas. Some is not Metal, but who cares? Discuss, tear me a new one, do whatever you will, because I want your opinion.

Rush - Roll The Bones
Metallica - Garage Inc
Lauren Harris - Calm Before The Storm
Bruce Dickinson - Tattooed Millionaire
Alestorm - Black Sails At Midnight
The Sword - Gods Of The Earth

All in all, what I feel is a decent haul :)

Christmas was sweet. For Christmas Eve dinner, we had lobster tails, steak wrapped with bacon, baked potatoes, and broccoli. I put worcestershire sauce with tabasco on my steak, and I put sour cream on my potato and broccoli. Trust me, broccoli and baked potatoes are both awesome with sour cream. Don't knock it until you've tried it. As I've been doing for several years, I got drunk and watched Die Hard that night. And on Christmas, we had my mom's chicken broccoli casserole. It has mayonnaise, melted cheddar, and pieces of bread in it. It's delicious. We also had shrimp cocktail.

I didn't get anything really metal related, but I did get another Heavy Metal calendar. Heavy Metal as in Heavy Metal Magazine. I also got Skyrim and I'm sorry, Ani and Bahamut, but you guys are wrong. Skyrim is the most metal game ever. It's also fucking AWESOME! I stayed up way too late playing it last night. My character is a Nord named Hugrekki. He has red face paint, braids in his hair and beard, and one of his eyes is completely white with no pupil. He looks sick. I also intend to make an argonian character and have him join the Dark Brotherhood.

My only problem so far with Skyrim is the fact that you can't block when you're dual wielding. Does the left bumper ever do anything? Because if not, then they could have made that the block button. But if it does ever do something, then never mind.

At 12/24/11 11:24 PM, C-Ward wrote: System of a Down
RATM
A7X
Smashing Pumpkins

None of those are metal. I've never heard of Evan's Blue, but it definitely does not sound like it would be a metal band.

But since you mentioned a few thrash bands, I'd recommend Coroner, Voivod, early Exodus, Tankard, Sodom, Watchtower, early Kreator, and Vektor. Also, it's pretty much death metal and not thrash, but it still has a pretty thrashy sound, I recommend Morbid Saint. Also, I have a feeling you'd dig Mastodon. They're not thrash, but they rule.

At 12/26/11 03:06 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: As I've been doing for several years, I got drunk and watched Die Hard that night.

I did the last of the wrapping to Die Hard 2, over a few cans of cider. Had to wait for the folks to go out to church, though. Nice to finally get rid of my brother and his family for a bit, as well.

At 12/24/11 11:24 PM, C-Ward wrote: System of a Down
RATM
A7X
Smashing Pumpkins

None of those are metal. I've never heard of Evan's Blue, but it definitely does not sound like it would be a metal band.

I'd say that System of a Down are Metal, though I would agree with you on the others.

At 12/24/11 11:24 PM, C-Ward wrote: Hey everyone, I've been kind of getting into metal lately and I've been stalking this thread for some good reccomendations. I have a list of some metal bands I listen to, but most of them, if not all of them are mainstream, and I was kinda hoping I could find some underground bands that fit my style.

System of a Down
RATM
Evans Blue
Megadeath
Anthrax
A7X
Strapping Young Lad
Testament
Lamb of God
Smashing Pumpkins

hmm all good except...
Smashing Pumpkins and RATM aren't metal...
sometimes RATM can barely pass for it though...
but Smashing Pumpkins? no
they're Alternative Rock

I forgot to mention that I also got a drum set for Christmas. It's used, and whoever owned it beat the fuck out of the snare, but it works...mostly. My mom's boyfriend is supposedly going to give me some bits of his set. I'm hoping he'll part with a bass drum and a pedal. What I got isn't a double bass setup, which is what I would want. Also, the hi hat sucks. It was free, though, so, you know, sweet. I just wish I had a digital drum set that I could keep in my room for more practicing. I'm not good at playing a drum set. I am pretty sick at hand drums, though. I have a bongo and a really nice, expensive djembe with cool African looking artwork all over it. It's beautiful.

At 12/26/11 03:33 PM, Coop wrote: I'd say that System of a Down are Metal, though I would agree with you on the others.

no freakin' way, mang. They're not bad, but totally not metal. I actually like some of their stuff. Holy Mountain, Chop Suey, Science, Forest, Hypnotize, and some others are pretty good.

Well for christmas I got a Blueray/DVD Player, $350 in Gift Cards/Cash, Season 1 of Workaholics, and an Avenged Sevenfold shirt..... but there is really one problem here.... THE FUCKING AVENGED SEVENFOLD SHIRT I NEVER ASKED FOR OR WOULD WANT!!!!! BLAH!!!!
Of course it was returned to none other than Hot Topic and now I'm stuck with a $22 gift card for a store

I have to interest to buy from. I looked through their horrible CD collection only to find garbage or Mastodons new The Hunter which I already have. Their shirt collection for metal which of course was in the back corner of the store and had a very limited selection of choices wasn't worth buying.

I remember when Hot Topic was actually a store I would want to check out when I was 12 since it had a decent selection of stuff I would want and just the thought of some American Eagle douche (no offense to anyone here that wears the stuff but you know what people I really mean.) actually in the store was laughable. Seriously those types would actually be hissed at by the workers (happened to my sister) and were not welcomed. Now it's just all inviting and stupid with all the Justin Bieber and Dead Mau5 crap.

SO!!!!! Yeah I really didn't get any new CD's or anything metal so yeah this post isn't really metal but what ever. Just wanted to share what I got.... and bitch about Hot Topic.

Although there are a lot of hot chicks that shop in that store.... sometimes.

Fuck I would skip this but with all the money from Christmas I bought a Panasonic 32 inch LCD T.V. for 289.

At 12/26/11 12:36 AM, Viper50 wrote: so what did you guys get for christmas music wise

Nothing. :(

But my wife got an album from the german band "Knorkator". And they are as metal as metal can get!

The album is called "Das nächste Album aller Zeiten" ("The next album of all time"). Here's a video of "Wir werden alle sterneb" ("We are all going to die"): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7-60tyLQ hA

At 12/26/11 07:07 AM, Bahamut wrote:

At 12/25/11 01:54 PM, Haggard wrote: Yeah, the only "true" musician was Cliff, but he died. :(
The others are good, too. Kirk has some awesome soli and James' riff's are kick-ass, too. But I think with Cliff they might have been even better.

Can we both agree that Lars is the weakest musician in Metallica? :P

Yes. But he's still overqualified as a drummer for Manowar. :p

Last.fm sometimes plays this version of 'Dr Stein' by Helloween with like, sax or something

It's weird but in a neat way I guess

Wondering if anyone knew if it was from an actual album or something.

At 12/26/11 03:06 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: I also got Skyrim and I'm sorry, Ani and Bahamut, but you guys are wrong. Skyrim is the most metal game ever. It's also fucking AWESOME!

Eh, can't argue with that. Skyrim is a good game.

I stayed up way too late playing it last night. My character is a Nord named Hugrekki. He has red face paint, braids in his hair and beard, and one of his eyes is completely white with no pupil. He looks sick. I also intend to make an argonian character and have him join the Dark Brotherhood.

Good to see you at /15 already. :)

At 12/26/11 10:58 PM, Anti-pie wrote: but there is really one problem here.... THE FUCKING AVENGED SEVENFOLD SHIRT I NEVER ASKED FOR OR WOULD WANT!!!!! BLAH!!!!

LOL! That's worse than my friend getting a Trivium CD. Of course, I do have to thank my parents for not even getting me Lulu for Christmas.

At 12/27/11 02:46 AM, Haggard wrote:

At 12/26/11 07:07 AM, Bahamut wrote: Can we both agree that Lars is the weakest musician in Metallica? :P

Yes. But he's still overqualified as a drummer for Manowar. :p

At least Lars doesn't drum as bland as this. How this is their most popular song, I'll never know.

At 12/27/11 03:29 AM, Gobblemeister wrote: Last.fm sometimes plays this version of 'Dr Stein' by Helloween with like, sax or something

It's weird but in a neat way I guess

Wondering if anyone knew if it was from an actual album or something.

That's from Unarmed. KILL IT WITH FIRE!

At 12/27/11 02:46 AM, Haggard wrote: The album is called "Das nächste Album aller Zeiten" ("The next album of all time"). Here's a video of "Wir werden alle sterneb" ("We are all going to die"): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7-60tyLQ hA

Of course the song is called "Wir werden alle sterben". How on earth did I come up with "sterneb"? Fuck...

At 12/27/11 09:14 AM, Bahamut wrote:

At 12/27/11 02:46 AM, Haggard wrote:

At 12/26/11 07:07 AM, Bahamut wrote: Can we both agree that Lars is the weakest musician in Metallica? :P

Yes. But he's still overqualified as a drummer for Manowar. :p

At least Lars doesn't drum as bland as this. How this is their most popular song, I'll never know.

It's the same as with charts music: It's simple, it doesn't require you to think and it doesn't require you to be "actively listening". Or maybe the majority of all people just have a bad taste in music.

At 12/27/11 09:14 AM, Bahamut wrote: At least Lars doesn't drum as bland as this. How this is their most popular song, I'll never know.

Realistically, it's not their biggest hit. Just because it's their most popular viral song, doesn't mean it's their most popular.

In fact, I think Manowar did a poll for their most popular song and i'm pretty sure Carry On won.

At 12/26/11 07:39 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 12/26/11 03:33 PM, Coop wrote: I'd say that System of a Down are Metal, though I would agree with you on the others.

no freakin' way, mang. They're not bad, but totally not metal. I actually like some of their stuff. Holy Mountain, Chop Suey, Science, Forest, Hypnotize, and some others are pretty good.

Alright then, I'll ask you one simple task then - justify why System of a Down aren't Metal. What other genre can they be? They're too hard for Hard rock and if they're "Nu Metal", I don't buy that - that still is Metal, even though it's a shittier cousin of true Metal.

What's so wrong with them?

At 12/27/11 01:57 PM, Coop wrote: Alright then, I'll ask you one simple task then - justify why System of a Down aren't Metal. What other genre can they be? They're too hard for Hard rock and if they're "Nu Metal", I don't buy that - that still is Metal, even though it's a shittier cousin of true Metal.

What's so wrong with them?

It's Nu-Metal. And after going through Linkin Park and Slipknot's discographies, we pretty much came to the conclusion that this genre doesn't have anything to do with Metal, other than having down-tuned guitars. But I see why you can support that System Of A Down are Metal. Listenning to album like Toxicity, there is some riffing on their tracks, I'm pretty sure some of you guys wished it was you who wrote these riffs, and they ressemble some Metal riffs. So what is it that makes Soad riffs not metal? Maybe it's the opinion people have of them...

Benighted - Let the Blood Spill Between My Broken Teeth

At 12/27/11 02:35 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: It's Nu-Metal. And after going through Linkin Park and Slipknot's discographies,

I have a huge problem with this.

Linkin Park and Slipknot are clearly very, very different. Why do they have the same label applied? Same with SOAD, they have sweet fuck all in common with Linkin Park, and very little in common with Slipknot.

In other non metal news let's laugh at my friends deathcore band.

At 12/27/11 02:44 PM, SomaGuye wrote:

At 12/27/11 02:35 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: It's Nu-Metal. And after going through Linkin Park and Slipknot's discographies,

I have a huge problem with this.

Linkin Park and Slipknot are clearly very, very different. Why do they have the same label applied? Same with SOAD, they have sweet fuck all in common with Linkin Park, and very little in common with Slipknot.

Yeah well... Cannibal Corpse are not like Death, and Death are not like Benighted... and they are all labelled Death Metal right?

Vildhjarta?

Duff, Linkin Park are not even NU metal.

I have trouble even calling them rock.

And their latest album is actually, surprisingly, very good. (I like electronica, so.... :P)

Btw, to any of you who care about Symphony X, these were the results of their setlist polls that I was posting:

Symphony X (total voters: 622)

Masquerade (447-22%)
Absinthe and Rue (270-13%))
A Lesson Before Dying (236-12%)
The Raging Season (197-10%)

The Damnation Game (total voters: 1116)

The Edge of Forever (893-23%)
The Damnation Game (671-17%)
A Winter's Dream - The Ascension (Part II) (622-16%) / Prelude (Part I) (405-11%)
Dressed to Kill (393-10%)

The Divine Wings of Tragedy (total voters: 1826)

The Divine Wings of Tragedy (1287-20%)
The Accolade (1035-16%)
Candlelight Fantasia (785-12%)
Of Sins and Shadows (739-12%)

Twilight in Olympus (total voters: 2226)

Through the Looking Glass (Parts I-III) (1404-19%)
Church of the Machine (1298-18%)
Smoke and Mirrors (1215-16%)
In the Dragon's Den (1029-14%)

V: The New Mythology Suite (total voters: 2656)

Rediscovery pt. II - The New Mythology (1380-16%)
Communion and the Oracle (1349-16%)
Egypt (1272-15%)
Evolution (The Grand Design) (1232-14%)

The Odyssey (total voters: 3191)

The Odyssey (2017-19%)
Accolade II (1968-19%)
Awakenings (1606-15%)
Inferno (1534-15%)

Paradise Lost (total voters: 2758)

Set the World on Fire (The Lie of Lies) (1460-15%)
Paradise Lost (1455-15%)
Revelation (Divus Pennae ex Tragoedia) (1192-13%)
The Walls of Babylon (1132-12%)

Iconoclast (total voters: 2859)

Iconoclast (1681-16%)
When All is Lost (1428-14%)
The End of Innocence (994-10%)
Electric Messiah (967-9%)

Porcupine Tree - What Happens Now

sweet, Inferno and Egypt.

At 12/27/11 09:14 AM, Bahamut wrote: Good to see you at /15 already. :)

huh?

At 12/27/11 09:14 AM, Bahamut wrote: LOL! That's worse than my friend getting a Trivium CD. Of course, I do have to thank my parents for not even getting me Lulu for Christmas.

i was thinking about getting Lulu...
just so i can say i have the worst album ever made

At 12/27/11 05:55 PM, Viper50 wrote:

At 12/27/11 09:14 AM, Bahamut wrote: LOL! That's worse than my friend getting a Trivium CD. Of course, I do have to thank my parents for not even getting me Lulu for Christmas.

i was thinking about getting Lulu...
just so i can say i have the worst album ever made

LOL, and you know this for a fact?

At 12/26/11 01:23 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

Kreator - Enemy Of God
Meanstreak - Roadkill
Watchtower - Asylum
Morbid Saint - Lock Up Your Children
Sodom - Agent Orange

Tell me if you like my recommandations or not :

I thought that Sodom, Morbid Saint, and Kreator was pretty badass. Meanstreak was good too and Watchtower was okay. I'll look around for a couple more thrash bands abd update my list :)

At 12/27/11 01:28 PM, AniMetal wrote: In fact, I think Manowar did a poll for their most popular song and i'm pretty sure Carry On won.

Then why did they not play that and play Warriors of the World United instead? I felt from the shows they played in the UK, they played one too many songs from Warriors of the World. Didn't help when their show was cut short.

At 12/27/11 05:21 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 12/27/11 09:14 AM, Bahamut wrote: Good to see you at /15 already. :)

huh?

The video game forum. :P

At 12/27/11 05:55 PM, Viper50 wrote: i was thinking about getting Lulu...
just so i can say i have the worst album ever made

May as well save your money on better albums. I've already got a few bad apples in my CD collection.