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Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-17 20:49:26


At 8/17/11 12:31 AM, mothballs wrote: Bought a Dark Funeral shirt off this site, I'm eying a Suffocation shirt for my next.

Rockabilia has some nice stuff. This is on my next purchase

Marduk- Allover Print
and recently ordered this
Metallica- Kill em all all over print


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-17 21:27:21


At 8/17/11 08:15 PM, batman64 wrote: And then to be told that a big named Black Metal band says they were influenced by them which in turn inspires another band...kinda funny...but so fuvcking cool.

Well, Agalloch are "Black Metal". So to speak. They are not Mayhem, Gorgoroth, Chaos Moon, Balrog or whatever. Let's say Black Metal is a big part of their music, but there is so much Post-Rock, Accoustic Folk, Neofolk, Atmospheric Metal and Gothic Rock in their sound, that it's hard to classify them as "Black Metal". I suggest you listen to the album The Mantle by Agalloch. This one record is much more experimental then the others, and during an interview, Agalloch said that with this album they tried to move a little away from the Metal scene, and took influences from bands like Mogwai (Post-Rock), Fields Of The Nephilim (Gothic Rock) and the Neofolk scene from Europe. You might like this :)

So I suggest checking out the aforementioned song Preacher Man...then listen to Moonchild..Last exit for the Lost..Watchman..and Vet for the Insane...may not be what you consider Metal but you will be able to hear what influenced Agalloch and Fen...all the songs I mentioned should be on Youtube.

I'll do just that :)

Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-18 00:12:16


New Boris song leaked. Well not new, but an unreleased song from New Album. I don't exactly fancy it. Sounds too much like an anime opening.

Does anyone here like Naked City? I know they aren't exactly metal, but most of their fans are in to grindcore rather than jazz. I've always loved them, but I haven't been able to stop listening to them lately.


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-18 00:37:55


At 8/18/11 12:12 AM, Tobi wrote: New Boris song leaked. Well not new, but an unreleased song from New Album. I don't exactly fancy it. Sounds too much like an anime opening.

Bastardo. You got me almost excited there.

Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-18 02:41:41


Attack Attack! - Smokahontas

I tried pressing the dislike button multiple time during my listenning of the track... without even thinking... My fingers were acting without permission from my brain. Isn't it terrible? When your body reacts before your head to bad music like this?

Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-18 07:46:16


At 8/17/11 06:49 AM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: I think my favourite part is the "LAAAAAAAA LA LA LAAAAAAA. LA LA LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA LA LA LAAAAAAAAAAAAA" bit. :P

Awesome is too small of a word for that part.

At 8/18/11 03:26 AM, batman64 wrote: One day I got buzzed and put on Welcome To My Nightmare by Cooper

Now that's a grand moment. Welcome to My Nightmare is certainly an album to hear. I know the sequel is coming out but I'm not entirely bought on it. If I'm to get more Alice Cooper, I should focus more on the classics.

Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-18 08:48:25


At 8/17/11 06:36 AM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:
At 8/17/11 06:04 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: Rhapsody split? D:
Yeah, Bahamut mentioned it last page.

Whoops, my bad.

I'm sure nobody has mentioned this super amazing holy fuck winning news yet!

Comes complete with Official statement from Uncle Al himself :D

Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-18 17:23:09


At 8/16/11 11:03 AM, K2LU wrote: What are some good melodic death metal bands/albums?

Children of Bodom-Something Wild
Children of Bodom-Follow The Reaper
Norther-Death Unlimited
Norther-Mirror Of Madness
Amon Amarth-Versus The World
At The Gates-Slaughter Of The Soul

They are great melodic death metal bands\m/


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-18 17:26:48


At 8/18/11 05:23 PM, rockereaper wrote: Children of Bodom
Norther
Amon Amarth

Avoid these three bands all together.

At The Gates-Slaughter Of The Soul

This band is great, but this was their worst album.

lol


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-18 17:32:20


So yeah going off of melodeath recommendations.

Any good ones that don't sound like metalcore? Perhaps something like swallow the sun. I just don't like the vocals that lean towards screams.


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-18 17:37:27


At 8/18/11 05:32 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: So yeah going off of melodeath recommendations.

Any good ones that don't sound like metalcore? Perhaps something like swallow the sun. I just don't like the vocals that lean towards screams.

Every melodic death metal band I recommended fits what you want.


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-18 17:41:30


At 8/18/11 05:37 PM, AniMetal wrote:
At 8/18/11 05:32 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: So yeah going off of melodeath recommendations.

Any good ones that don't sound like metalcore? Perhaps something like swallow the sun. I just don't like the vocals that lean towards screams.
Every melodic death metal band I recommended fits what you want.

I'm looking at the list from the page before and starting with Soilwork. I've heard they took a more " core " turn at a certain point though, which album did that start?


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-18 17:46:14


At 8/18/11 05:41 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: I'm looking at the list from the page before and starting with Soilwork. I've heard they took a more " core " turn at a certain point though, which album did that start?

Stabbing The Drama.

So anything before that album is good.

Devin townsend project bonus track, fucking awesome.


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-18 20:05:12


At 8/18/11 05:26 PM, AniMetal wrote:
At 8/18/11 05:23 PM, rockereaper wrote: Children of Bodom
Norther
Amon Amarth
Avoid these three bands all together.

His opinion.


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-18 21:21:41


At 8/18/11 08:03 PM, batman64 wrote: AniMetal...avoid Amon Amarth...as a fan I must ask why..I would prefer valid reasons and not opinionated statements like you just don't like them if you don't mind.Also, we never really chatted before so maybe it's about time.

Eh, with pleasure.

Personally, I think their guitars/bass are horribly simplistic and boring. I think it was duff, but someone explained why once before about how it's all painfully slow tremolo picking and whatnot.

I honestly just think they're horribly simplistic and i've tried time and time again to listen to them, but it really does just feel like i'm listening to the same three songs over and over again.

Also, I can't take any bands that got famous over a theme(Vikings, in this case) seriously to begin with.


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-19 01:21:17


At 8/19/11 12:55 AM, batman64 wrote: Ok, right off you give an opinion..

Anything and everything musical is opinion.

Who is to say that just because it is simple it is not good? every song does not have to be a work of art...sometimes it is just for fun...And yes, I will say that sometimes it comes down to what the person can actually play and which style they choose to play. It basically comes down to musical tastes and preferences here.You see it as simplistic and boring, I see it as simple and fun. No win here with this..all comes down to one's opinion.

I never said simplistic is bad.

But in a genre such as death metal, where even some of the most simplistic bands are still mega technical, simplicity is not a good thing.

Even bands like Obituary and early Sepultura were still somewhat technical.

Death Metal that exhibits no technical skill is like a movie made in the 00's with no color. Sure you CAN do it, it just doesn't make much sense nor does it settle well in your stomach.

Choice is always yours as well as mine.

Indeed.


Ok, I can also make that statement about other bands..BoltThrower pops in my head...to me their early works sounded very similar to each other..still dug it. Because they were fun and doing what they did..songs bout war and stuff played in a style they liked and worked for them. So yes, you have a valid point here that I will concede to..some of their works sound similar to each other. Not the only ones to do so. People find a formula that works for em..if it works why fix it?So yes, I agree some songs sound similar to each other. But it is a matter of opinion on whether or not this is a bad thing.

Of course.

But there's a difference between having one sound and having songs sound the same.

Examples:
Stratovarius, almost all their stuff has the same sound after their first album or so. But all their songs are still unique.
AC/DC, where they have fuckloads of songs but they all sound similar.

That's the way I see it, of course it's opinion. It's music, I.E. art, so why wouldn't it be an opinion?


and again..an opinion. You say you don't take seriously Themed bands. Ok, that is your right to decide. I will say though that it seems to me you may be missing the point as well as cutting yourself off from a good amount of decent music. They are not supposed to be taken seriously..they are dudes having fun onstage playing songs about vikings..drinking beer out of a horn. Swordfights and shit. It's all done in fun. So maybe it's not your idea of fun...why not just let us have our fun without going on about how you don't like it?

Themed bands can be good, but bands that are famous BECAUSE of the fact they're themed is what makes me angry.

If Amon Amarth had all the same songs, but different lyrics and no stage props they wouldn't be a fifth as popular as they are today.

Another example of a band becoming famous over theme alone is alestorm. "LOL WE'RE PIRATES AND WE HAVE 70K FANS ON FACEBOOK, BUT LEGITIMATE POWER METAL BANDS LIKE PAGAN'S MIND ONLY HAVE TWO THOUSAND"

why not just let the listener decide if they like it or not and leave it at that?

Well if you'd rather someone who wants to explore melodic death metal listen to Amon Amarth, instead of say Insomnium or Swallow The Sun, then that's obviously a slap in the face to the musicians who are trying to write legitimate music and whom aren't just "for drinking and having fun."

The Devin Townsend Project - The Mighty Masturbator.

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Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-19 08:48:50


At 8/18/11 08:03 PM, batman64 wrote: Bahamut bro..the sequel has been out for a while...Along came a Spider came out 3 years ago.

What? That's related to the original Welcome to my Nightmare? I thought the sequel to Welcome to My Nightmare was Welcome 2 My Nightmare, hence the 2 in its name. Still, if Along Came a Spider is one of the better efforts from Alice Cooper, I'll look into it. I'll see what Coop thinks.

At 8/19/11 01:21 AM, AniMetal wrote: Examples:
Stratovarius, almost all their stuff has the same sound after their first album or so. But all their songs are still unique.

I'd say after their fourth album. The first three with Tolkki on vocals were rather different to the rest of Stratovarius. Dreamspace is still one of their finest albums.

Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-19 11:06:35


At 8/15/11 12:51 AM, Tobi wrote: Shub Niggurath (thanks Dalnaki)

You're welcome.

At 8/16/11 11:03 AM, K2LU wrote: What are some good melodic death metal bands/albums?

I don't listen to melodeath, but this album came to mind immediately. It's not Gothenburg pussy shit that takes the death out of melodic death metal, plus this came out in 1994.
Cenotaph (MEX)'s Riding Our Black Oceans.
Also some Norwegian melodic death/doom from the 90s:
Graveless (NOR)'s Eternal Lies EP.

At 8/17/11 11:30 AM, TheSporkLord wrote: What does everyone think of Dismember?

Great.

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Holyyyyyy shit. Look who's back.

Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-19 22:57:58


So AA is bad because they're simple? Bullshit. Using this logic I can say that just about every metal band on earth sucks. Black metal is just tremolo picked power chords, melodeath is just an accent note followed by palm muted bass notes and death metal is just tremolo picked strings. Think what Insomnium does is somehow unique? Not really. They do the same thing every other band does. Dance on the high e string, A,B,C,E,A,B,C,E. This would also mean every douchebaggy wankery band would actually be good, which isn't the case.


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-20 00:24:51


At 8/19/11 10:57 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: So AA is bad because they're simple? Bullshit.

You obviously didn't read my argument.

Death metal isn't SUPPOSED to be simple.

That's like saying you enjoy a grindcore band that is as technical as dream theater. It's not right.

Anyway guys, I have a kid who wants me to send him a band every three days.

Thrash metal, oldschool death metal, oldschool power metal and pre-00's hardcore punk are the genres he wants me to explore.

What are some bands I should DEFINITELY recommend? Since he wants one band every three days there's no rush, but still. :P


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-20 09:34:31


At 8/20/11 12:24 AM, AniMetal wrote: What are some bands I should DEFINITELY recommend? Since he wants one band every three days there's no rush, but still. :P

Death/thrash since most regular thrash is boring and slow: Sauron (US), Voor, Holy Moses, Ripping Corpse,

OSDM: Necrovore, Sempiternal Deathreign, Brutality, Morpheus Descends, Goreaphobia, Immolation, Incantation, Sinister, Rottrevore

Oldschool USPM since USPM doesn't get any love: Mystic Force, Tyrant (US), Stormtrooper (US), Oracle (US), Cauldron Born, Jag Panzer, Helstar, Heretic (US), Titan Force

Hardcore punk: English Dogs, Raw Power, G.B.H., Negative Approach. Also Discharge. Can't listen to hardcore without listening to Discharge.

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At 8/20/11 12:24 AM, AniMetal wrote:
Thrash metal, oldschool death metal, oldschool power metal and pre-00's hardcore punk are the genres he wants me to explore.

Thrash:
Carnivore
Nocturnal
Totenmond
Vektor
Evildead
Watchtower
Extinction of Mankind (more or less crust)

OS DM:
Phlebotomized
Polluted Inheritance
Shub Niggurath
Disharmonic Orchestra
Autopsy
Gorguts
Cinerator
Repugnant
Puretance
Morta Skuld

OS Power (Not on best terms with actual old school PM, but I know some bands that kinda sound OS):
Isen Torr
Manilla Road
Zuul
Not Fragile
Kill Bourn

Hardcore:
Totalitar
Societic Death Slaughter
The Holy Mountain
Discharge, of course
Crow
Artimus Pyle
Antidote (US)
Dunkle Tage
Beastie Boys (Polly Wog Stew EP only)
S.P.K.
Bhopal (proto-grind)


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-20 12:46:10


At 8/20/11 12:24 AM, AniMetal wrote:
At 8/19/11 10:57 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: So AA is bad because they're simple? Bullshit.
You obviously didn't read my argument.

Death metal isn't SUPPOSED to be simple.

I'm pretty sure the point of death metal is, you know, to be death metal.

That's like saying you enjoy a grindcore band that is as technical as dream theater. It's not right.

That's idiotic.


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-20 13:52:23


All im gonna say is we all love metal, we shouldn't bash bands that we don't like, and I respect what anyone here likes.


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-20 14:16:01


At 8/20/11 01:52 PM, Anti-pie wrote: All im gonna say is we all love metal, we shouldn't bash bands that we don't like, and I respect what anyone here likes.

I'm not bashing bands. I'm just saying that there is no written rule that says DM should be complex.

Death metal can be as complex or simple as one likes. And honestly, until any of you have picked up an instrument and tried writing a metal song, lay the fuck off. Because even the most simple death metal would still be better than what you could muster up.

Anyway, more melodeath

Noumena
Third Moon
Be'lakor


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-20 14:22:42


At 8/20/11 02:16 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: I'm not bashing bands. I'm just saying that there is no written rule that says DM should be complex.

In general, unless it's progressive metal, I don't really depend on one band's musical complexity. As long as it sounds good, I'm not really bothered. I may not even like something that shows high complexity of music simply because the content does not interest me. Not saying this is what AniMetal is determining for any subgenre of metal, though. And on that note, I've never been one who comments on how talentless one musician is. To me, it's highly subjective and that word is really only thrown around when someone simply doesn't like an artist/band.

Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-20 14:34:09


At 8/20/11 02:22 PM, Bahamut wrote:
At 8/20/11 02:16 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: I'm not bashing bands. I'm just saying that there is no written rule that says DM should be complex.
In general, unless it's progressive metal, I don't really depend on one band's musical complexity. As long as it sounds good, I'm not really bothered. I may not even like something that shows high complexity of music simply because the content does not interest me. Not saying this is what AniMetal is determining for any subgenre of metal, though. And on that note, I've never been one who comments on how talentless one musician is. To me, it's highly subjective and that word is really only thrown around when someone simply doesn't like an artist/band.

Right, which is why I enjoy AA. They might not be the most complex band ever, but they can get some good beats going. It's also why I don't like most bands like Necrophagist. Doesn't interest me.

It also kind of annoys me how people can sit there and go " Well their music is really simple " especially when said people have never even played an instrument. Trying to determine a songs complexity ( when you don't play anything ) is stupid. How the hell would they actually be able to guage the difficulty?


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-08-20 16:01:44


At 8/20/11 02:16 PM, TheSporkLord wrote:
At 8/20/11 01:52 PM, Anti-pie wrote: All im gonna say is we all love metal, we shouldn't bash bands that we don't like, and I respect what anyone here likes.
I'm not bashing bands. I'm just saying that there is no written rule that says DM should be complex.

I never said you were.


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