At 8/6/11 07:18 PM, AniMetal wrote:

At 8/6/11 11:18 AM, Zodir wrote: Going to Mayhem tomorrow. Pretty psyched to see Megadeth live. Also I'm looking forward to the Disturbed set (yeah, I know they're not metal, but I still enjoy their music). Red Fang should be good too. This is also my first real metal concert, so are there any guidelines I should know about?

Megadeth are awesome, have fun dude. And even though I dislike Disturbed, i've heard that they're incredibly fun live. Machine Head, Red Fang and Kingdom of Sorrow are all worth checking out too while you're there.

Watch this.

The horrible cheesiness aside, this is a pretty good basic guide. ALTHOUGH 100% ignore their topic of moshing, half the "moves" in that video like the tornado kick are just douchie things that you shouldn't do.

Also, if you're in the front row, and there's a setlist two inches in front of you: DON'T fucking touch it until when the band goes offstage. Seriously, some bands HATE it when you touch their setlist. hahaha

Thanks dude. I won't be in the front, I'll be towards the middle. I haven't heard much of Kingdom of Sorrow, I'll check 'em out while I'm there. I also absolutely fucking love Machine Head's Burn My Eyes, so I hope they'll play stuff from that. The Blackening was fairly kickass as well.

So I decided to be cool and buy an album for once. I picked up Symphony X's Iconoclast and I'm absolutely loving it. This is the first album I have by them so what other albums are awesome?

Also, I'm loving romeo's beastliness.

I saw Slough Feg and Solstice live on Thursday. Great show, despite the shitty mic.

At 8/6/11 10:38 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: So I decided to be cool and buy an album for once. I picked up Symphony X's Iconoclast and I'm absolutely loving it. This is the first album I have by them so what other albums are awesome?

The Divine Wings of Tragedy, V: The New Mythology Suite and The Odyssey are all worth picking up!

At 8/6/11 10:52 PM, Bahamut wrote: I saw Slough Feg and Solstice live on Thursday. Great show, despite the shitty mic.

At 8/6/11 10:38 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: So I decided to be cool and buy an album for once. I picked up Symphony X's Iconoclast and I'm absolutely loving it. This is the first album I have by them so what other albums are awesome?

The Divine Wings of Tragedy, V: The New Mythology Suite and The Odyssey are all worth picking up!

You're the first person I've ever known to suggest V. A lot of people seem to believe it's a bad Symphony X album, but I love it. Great recommandation. And I also second Bahamut for The Odyssey, it's an amazing album! Paradise Lost is also very good. If you enjoyed Iconoclast, I'm pretty sure you'll like Paradise Lost.

At 8/6/11 10:10 PM, Zodir wrote: Thanks dude. I won't be in the front, I'll be towards the middle. I haven't heard much of Kingdom of Sorrow, I'll check 'em out while I'm there. I also absolutely fucking love Machine Head's Burn My Eyes, so I hope they'll play stuff from that. The Blackening was fairly kickass as well.

Yeah... Megadeth, In Flames, Machine Head, Red Fang, Kingdom of Sorrow - THESE are the bands worth seeing on the lineup.

At 8/6/11 10:38 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: So I decided to be cool and buy an album for once. I picked up Symphony X's Iconoclast and I'm absolutely loving it. This is the first album I have by them so what other albums are awesome?

The Divine Wings Of Tragedy and Twilight In Olympus are EASILY their best albums. BY FAR.

V - The New Mythology Suit is awesome too, but not as awesome as the two I just mentioned. I've never heard anyone bad mouth it though, maybe those Canadians are just weird. ;D

Also, The Odyssey is overrated as fuck. It's a great song, but everything else other then the title track is boring as fuck. Probably my least favorite SX album. haha

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Troll are way better.

At 8/7/11 04:09 AM, AniMetal wrote: V - The New Mythology Suit is awesome too, but not as awesome as the two I just mentioned. I've never heard anyone bad mouth it though, maybe those Canadians are just weird. ;D

I've read bad comments for it on the internet... Probably here in fact.

At 8/7/11 02:06 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 8/7/11 04:09 AM, AniMetal wrote: V - The New Mythology Suit is awesome too, but not as awesome as the two I just mentioned. I've never heard anyone bad mouth it though, maybe those Canadians are just weird. ;D

I've read bad comments for it on the internet... Probably here in fact.

Maybe that was me. I've commented before about how V has the most UNIQUE sound of any SX album ever before and that can either be a really good thing or a really bad thing depending on how much you prefer or don't prefer their later and earlier sounds.

Also, the ONE thing I hate about V: It doesn't have Thomas Miller on bass. His bass playing was so subpar and mediocre on both The Odyssey and V, it's crazy. (His playing on Paradise Lost and the new album is incredibly intense though)

I honestly feel that their are only three SX albums TRULY worth owning:
The Divine Wings Of Tragedy
Twilight In Olympus
V - The New Mythology Suit

The self-titled album and The Damnation Game have three GREATS songs each, those being; Into The Dementia/Raging Season, Masquerade, Taunting The Notorious, The Damnation Game, Edge Of Forever, Winter's Dream. (both parts, mainly just the second though)

The rest of those two albums, those tracks aside, really suck. Shade Of Gray specifically is easily the worst SX song, ever. EVER. Also the fact that the vocals, production and overall song writing is still a bit premature is also a turnoff.

At 8/7/11 02:29 PM, AniMetal wrote: Also, the ONE thing I hate about V: It doesn't have Thomas Miller on bass. His bass playing was so subpar and mediocre on both The Odyssey and V, it's crazy. (His playing on Paradise Lost and the new album is incredibly intense though)

And by "his" I actually should've said "Michael Lepond."

I guess I'm just going to have to look up all of their stuff.

I also just listened to Romeo's album The Dark Chapter. It's amazing. You should definitely give it a listen if you haven't already.

At 8/3/11 10:16 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: So, I'd like to go deeper into Black Metal, and I'd like to get a few recommandations. A few ones with a good desciption would be more appreciated then a list of 30 or 40 bands.

Dark Funeral - my personal favorite band that in my opinion has greater riffs and evilness than Gorgoroth.

Urgehal - an awesome band from Norway that has a little slower style than Dark Funeral but has some depressing/evil feelings to it.

Darkestrah - another great (underground) band that is better known as "Epic Folk Black Metal" or "Desert Cavern Black Metal". I tend to find that the "Epic Folk Black Metal" part is found in the album "Embrace of Memory" and the "Desert Cavern Black Metal" part is found in the album "The Great Silk Road".

I don't want to throw a million bands at you at once so I'll give you those 3 and tell me how you like them. If so I'll give you some more, black metal is my favorite subgenre of metal :)

At 8/4/11 07:10 PM, batman64 wrote: Crow Black Sky : Retribution

Wow, that was good. Now that's black metal, amirite? hur hur.

At 8/5/11 04:01 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: Ihsahn

I second this recommendation. Ihsahn is fantastic.

At 8/6/11 10:38 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: So I decided to be cool and buy an album for once. I picked up Symphony X's Iconoclast and I'm absolutely loving it. This is the first album I have by them so what other albums are awesome?

My favorites are V and the Odyssey, followed closely by Divine Wings of Tragedy, but they're pretty much all good, though Damnation Game is mediocre and I haven't heard the first album.

At 8/7/11 04:09 AM, AniMetal wrote: Also, The Odyssey is overrated as fuck. It's a great song, but everything else other then the title track is boring as fuck. Probably my least favorite SX album. haha

You didn't even like Inferno, King of Terrors, or Accolade II?

At 8/3/11 10:16 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: So, I'd like to go deeper into Black Metal, and I'd like to get a few recommandations. A few ones with a good desciption would be more appreciated then a list of 30 or 40 bands.

Klabautamann

Also, I will have to check out what Bruce mentioned.

I forgot to mention Anorexia Nervosa. How the hell do I forget them? Gah -_-

Anyway, just for future reference I think HeavenDuff should also check out Tsjuder, Blodsrit, Krypt, 1349, Imperial Crystalline Entombment, Marduk and Immortal. Sorry I don't have a description for each one but whenever you get the chance, check out these bands :)

http://www.imageupload.org/?d=8E0EDD3C1

This week's Metal Monday choice: Van Canto. Probably hated by some here, haha.

At 8/3/11 02:48 PM, AniMetal wrote:

At 8/3/11 07:18 AM, Bahamut wrote: Heh, and I thought you expertised in thrash metal. Well, maybe not as much as power metal but still. :P

I do. But from the 80's and early 90's.

Ahh, now that's a whole different story.

Most modern thrash metal is either painfully simplistic and boring AND/OR just rip off old thrash metal bands nonstop.

I'm glad I'm not alone. Shame there seems to be so little of modern thrash that's worth checking out. At times I feel I've saturated my discoveries in heavy metal but then I come across a goldmine all of sudden and continue.

I especially hate Evile and Bonded By Blood. BBB have a unique style and all, but it doesn't work if with that unique style it feels like EVERY SONG is the same. And Evile are just cocksucking Slayer, Metallica and maybe Nevermore without any real ideas of their own to their music.

Can't be as bad as Airbourne. :P

Icewind

What is this? A Firewind tribute band? :P

Hahaha they're actually one of the most original sounding PM metal bands today in my book. THey're obviously heavily Stratovarius influenced and whatnot, but they still have a completely unique sound of their own.

I'm hoping I can find something unique about these guys as well.

Apart from Arising Thunder, you're missing out on nothing of value.

Doesn't surprise me. haha

And now I have to hear samples for all the songs of an upcoming release, unless it's something I know I'm going to love but even then it's hard to resist hearing the samples.

At 8/7/11 03:20 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: You're the first person I've ever known to suggest V.

I find this to be an odd statement. V has far too many good tracks to be ignored. Hell, the damn album is on my sig!

At 8/8/11 02:57 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:

At 8/8/11 11:24 AM, PenisClown wrote: http://www.imageupload.org/?d=8E0EDD3C1

Not found.

It was the same image as he posted on the last page. I'm wanting to know the purpose behind it.

Haha I hate Dark Funeral, Marduk and 1349 so much. Talk about constant blast beats with nothing special about them, at all.

At 8/8/11 02:57 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:

At 8/8/11 11:24 AM, PenisClown wrote: http://www.imageupload.org/?d=8E0EDD3C1

Not found.

Nothing special.

At 8/7/11 10:16 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: You didn't even like Inferno, King of Terrors, or Accolade II?

I think Inferno, King Of Terrors and The Turning are all kickass songs... but they just don't have the same appeal or sound as their divine wings or twilight stuff which is so much better. Plus those songs are all just guitar and vocal centered. The bass, drums, keyboards and lyrics in those songs is all painful to listen to.

And Accolade II is a BLASPHEMY to the original Accolade.

At 8/8/11 05:04 PM, AniMetal wrote: Haha I hate Dark Funeral, Marduk and 1349 so much. Talk about constant blast beats with nothing special about them, at all.

Don't forget Darkthrone.

I listen to Rammstein, Pantera, RATM, SOAD, Mettalica, 3 Inches Of Blood, CKY, Faith No More, Disturbed, and Breaking Benjamin. So can I join? Also enjoying Deadly Sinners right now as I type this.

At 8/8/11 05:25 PM, J-Rex wrote: I listen to Rammstein, Pantera, RATM, SOAD, Mettalica, 3 Inches Of Blood, CKY, Faith No More, Disturbed, and Breaking Benjamin. So can I join? Also enjoying Deadly Sinners right now as I type this.

Rammstein, SOAD, post-80's Metallica, Disturbed and Breaking Benjamin aren't metal. But whatever, I think you can join. Just wait for one of the useless figureheads to approve you to join.

Why did you assume I meant post 80's Mettalica?

At 8/8/11 05:38 PM, J-Rex wrote: Why did you assume I meant post 80's Mettalica?

I didn't. I was just saying. :P

Also guys, have any of you checked out Adrenaline Mob? It's a super group consisting of Mike Portnoy, Russel Allen, Mike Orlando, Rich Ward and Paul DiLeo.

Just watched this video --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFKeo8h_K _k&feature=related The guitar is kick ass. Vocals are amazing. I think from listening to them right now that they will hit number one with a song soon.

At 8/8/11 05:04 PM, AniMetal wrote: Haha I hate Dark Funeral, Marduk and 1349 so much. Talk about constant blast beats with nothing special about them, at all.

I won't even go on to ask about how anyone in god's name can hate Dark Funeral, so I'll just ask, what do you consider good black metal?

There's no other band on earth that brings out the feeling in me than Dark Funeral.

At 8/8/11 10:20 PM, mothballs wrote: I won't even go on to ask about how anyone in god's name can hate Dark Funeral, so I'll just ask, what do you consider good black metal?

There's no other band on earth that brings out the feeling in me than Dark Funeral.

I love first wave black metal... Bathory, Celtic Frost and Hellhammer. (And arguably the first two kreator albums, if you consider that 1st wave black metal.)

I also LOVE Rotting Christ.

But for the most part I only truly like depressive black metal. Silencer, Shining, Svarti Loghin, etc.

Also post-black metal like Alcest, Les Discrets, Dopamine, etc. is amazing.

At 8/8/11 10:20 PM, mothballs wrote: I won't even go on to ask about how anyone in god's name can hate Dark Funeral,

They're just like Marduk to me. Boring and monotonous.

At 8/8/11 04:59 PM, Bahamut wrote: I find this to be an odd statement. V has far too many good tracks to be ignored. Hell, the damn album is on my sig!

Well, I never said I didn't like it...

At 8/8/11 05:04 PM, AniMetal wrote: I think Inferno, King Of Terrors and The Turning are all kickass songs... but they just don't have the same appeal or sound as their divine wings or twilight stuff which is so much better. Plus those songs are all just guitar and vocal centered. The bass, drums, keyboards and lyrics in those songs is all painful to listen to.

Well, you said it was a shitty album... with no kind of appeal at all... Never did you mention that it was not quite on par with the other Symphony X albums.

At 8/8/11 05:46 PM, AniMetal wrote: Also guys, have any of you checked out Adrenaline Mob? It's a super group consisting of Mike Portnoy, Russel Allen, Mike Orlando, Rich Ward and Paul DiLeo.

Fuck what?! How come I never heard of them before?!

At 8/8/11 05:25 PM, J-Rex wrote: I listen to Rammstein, Pantera, RATM, SOAD, Mettalica, CKY, Faith No More, Disturbed, and Breaking Benjamin. So can I join? Also enjoying Deadly Sinners right now as I type this.

So Rammstein, Rage Against The Machines, CKY, Faith No More, Disturbed and Breaking Benjamin.

So... Pantera, 3 Inches Of Blood and Metallica are the only Metal bands you listed...
I don't want to be rude, but if you can't come up with any more metal you like, I think you won't make the cut. So being one of the useless figureheads previously mentionned by AniMetal... I'll have to tell you that you don't meet the requirements of the Metal Hell... unless you have a few real metal bands to list.

At 8/9/11 01:47 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: So Rammstein, Rage Against The Machines, CKY, Faith No More, Disturbed and Breaking Benjamin.

I really meant "So Rammstein, Rage Against The Machines, CKY, Faith No More, Disturbed and Breaking Benjamin are not Metal."

Pantera , SOAD, Mettalica, 3 Inches Of Blood, Anthrax, Accept, Alice Cooper, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Judas Priest, Kiss, Motorhead, Rainbow, Thin Lizzy, UFO, W.A.S.P., Slayer, MegaDeth, and GWAR. Also I thought Rammstein was German Power Metal?

At 8/9/11 02:13 AM, J-Rex wrote: Pantera , SOAD, Mettalica, 3 Inches Of Blood, Anthrax, Accept, Alice Cooper, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Judas Priest, Kiss, Motorhead, Rainbow, Thin Lizzy, UFO, W.A.S.P., Slayer, MegaDeth, and GWAR. Also I thought Rammstein was German Power Metal?

Pantera, Metallica, 3 Inches Of Blood, Anthrax, Accept, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Motorhead, Rainbow, Thin Lizzy, W.A.S.P., Slayer, Megadeth and Gwar are all Metal bands, or have produced some metal material sometime in their career.

The others though, are not metal.

System Of A Down is Nu-Metal, which is a genre that really shouldn't have the world "metal" in it.
Alice Cooper is much more of a Rock artist. But I know he did influence quite a few metal bands. So since he's been an influence to some metal bands, I think it's ok to mention him.
Deep Purple is another of the Rock bands who helped in the creation of Heavy Metal. I'd say they are Proto-Heavy Metal.
Kiss are not Metal at all.
UFO are a Rock band, but they, like Deep Purple and Alice Cooper, have influenced metal a lot! Proto-Metal :)

Except for Soad, the artists you have named are all somewhat related to the Hard Rock genre. I do undestand that the line between Hard Rock and early Heavy Metal is pretty hard to draw sometimes. I doubt that my "definition" of the line that separates Metal and Rock is perfect. Still, I try to see what elements of the music can make a band either Hard Rock or Heavy Metal. I think my classifications of the bands we mentionned earlier is pretty accurate. Maybe some other members of the Hell have other opinions on these. If so, I'd like to hear them.

Anyway, as one of the Four Horsemen of the Metal Hell, I welcome you :)

Subterranean Masquerade - Awake

Thanks so what do we do here besides talk about metal music?