At 7/16/11 05:46 PM, SomaGuye wrote:

At 7/16/11 04:48 PM, AniMetal wrote: But it doesn't change the fact djent isn't a genre. At all.

Cool story bro.

Besides, wikipedia also list viking metal as a genre.

So obviously they can be trusted for genrizing.

I'll check up on the debates tomorrow. Right now, I just want to say the Judas Priest show was beyond amazing. Rob Halford's screams were the loudest I've heard in a concert so far and it's topped off with a brilliant setlist. Fantastic display set and great support act (Queensrÿche were actually GOOD) gives me very little to complain about! Setlist is as follows (album order, not setlist order):

Never Satisfied
Victim of Changes
Diamonds and Rust (as a ballad)
Starbreaker
Beyond the Realms of Death
Hell Bent for Leather
Green Manalishi (With the Two-Pronged Crown)
Rapid Fire
Metal Gods
Breaking the Law
Heading out to the Highway
The Hellion/Electric Eye
You've Got Another Thing Comin'
The Sentinel
Turbo Lover
Blood Red Skies
Painkiller
Night Crawler
Battle Hymns (intro)
Judas Rising
Prophecy

Which is why when I posted I wrote it as 'Djent'.

Also, I see that nothing has changed here since I've been gone. Awesome.

So, all the unnecessary bullshit arguing and elitism aside, Periphery and TesseracT are coming to Sydney soon enough and I'm going to see them :D going to be amazingly awesome.

I met Bulb (Periphery's guitarist) working at a Best Buy in Annapolis before he formed Periphery, be jelly.

Also, does anyone know of any good grindcore/powerviolence bands? I've been having a knack for the two lately, especially the latter.

Totenmond - Die Membranen

At 7/16/11 10:01 PM, Tobi wrote: I met Bulb (Periphery's guitarist) working at a Best Buy in Annapolis before he formed Periphery, be jelly.

Also, does anyone know of any good grindcore/powerviolence bands? I've been having a knack for the two lately, especially the latter.

Totenmond - Die Membranen

I guess Misery index is grindcore? I think their latest album is one of the best releases of 2010.

At 7/16/11 07:52 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: So, how many of you dudes listen to 'Djent'? You know, Periphery, Chimp Spanner, Tesseract, Visions, etc.

Not really big on it. Seems really commercial in a lot of ways, Periphery really don't do it for me.

At 7/16/11 11:59 AM, SomaGuye wrote: If you think this sounds like

Dog crap?

Troll face.jpg

At 7/16/11 08:49 PM, batman64 wrote: Holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Dudes..u gotta see this, almost forgot bout it
Sorry to those who have seen it before, to those who haven't enjoy*S*

A piece of Metal History lol

Um where's Iommi? I thought that was just the Jethro Tull guitarist.

At 7/16/11 09:43 PM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: Which is why when I posted I wrote it as 'Djent'.

Also, I see that nothing has changed here since I've been gone. Awesome.

I don't see why people don't act like arseholes in an entertaining way, like I do.

So, all the unnecessary bullshit arguing and elitism aside, Periphery and TesseracT are coming to Sydney soon enough and I'm going to see them :D going to be amazingly awesome.

I don't see how Periphery are good. Like. I really want to hear pop vocals?

And the riffs. Boy they are boring.

So ya'll post some metal for jeebies sakes.

Ima go watch this:

http://www.skatevideosite.com/skatevideo s/antiz-the-occasional-antiz-flashback/o nline

Ba byeeee :D

At 7/17/11 05:26 AM, PenisClown wrote:

At 7/16/11 07:52 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: So, how many of you dudes listen to 'Djent'? You know, Periphery, Chimp Spanner, Tesseract, Visions, etc.

Not really big on it. Seems really commercial in a lot of ways, Periphery really don't do it for me.

I like Meshuggah. Periphery aren't Meshuggah, but they hold the same sort of thing, know what I mean? Like Metallica, Anthrax, Slayer, Megadeth, etc.

When you're sick of one, listen to the next.

Or just listen to Burzum.

I don't see why people don't act like arseholes in an entertaining way, like I do.

Yeah, I missed your whole asshole-ism but still being funny about it all sort of posting.

I don't see how Periphery are good. Like. I really want to hear pop vocals?

And the riffs. Boy they are boring.

Each to their own, I guess. I find them interesting and pretty cool, but that's just me.

plus I won a free tour poster for the gig :D

Has anyone here heard of Nocternity or Gnaw Their Tongues?

I checked them out on recommendations from my sources and I think they're pretty cool.

Both are BM bands but they're approaches are quite different with Nocternity being more atmospheric group while Gnaw Their Tongues combine the Black metal with Noise elements

Gnaw Their Tongues - Destroying is Creation

Gnaw Their Tongues tracks are basically a cacophony. It's shrill, oppressive, and eerie. The spoken word samples that are featured in just about every track really add to the oppressive and discomforting mood that the entire album has and I think it works but I figure the actual screaming in this album, and this track in particular, doesn't really seem to work as well as it should. I dunno I still think it's a unique experience as a whole.

Nocternity - Onyx

Honestly I haven't listened to this album enough to have much of an opinion on it yet but it's like I said before, atmospheric. I guess it's kind of like a less precise or engaging version of bands like Agalloch but still pretty good.

At 7/17/11 05:57 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: I like Meshuggah.

I don't mind them hey.

Periphery aren't Meshuggah, but they hold the same sort of thing, know what I mean? Like Metallica, Anthrax, Slayer, Megadeth, etc.

Yeah but Meshuggah don't make me turn off the song 30 seconds in XD

When you're sick of one, listen to the next.

Or just listen to Burzum.

Only losers listen to Burzum.

FLKSDJFL:KSDJF:LJ:LSDKFJ:SDLKFJ

I don't see why people don't act like arseholes in an entertaining way, like I do.

Yeah, I missed your whole asshole-ism but still being funny about it all sort of posting.

I miss posting here. I love this place. So god damn much. No better forum for metal. I just wish we were popular as shit and metalheads actually came here.

Each to their own, I guess.

That is true. But you liking Djent is like when my older cousin was telling me how awesome deathcore is and how much he loves it :P

I've been a metalhead for as long as I can remember, and I didn't find out about this song until today. Proof that you will always find good new metal. That's old.

It was in the skate video I just linked before. Go watch it MetalSammich. You still skatin'?

At 7/17/11 07:37 AM, PenisClown wrote: It was in the skate video I just linked before. Go watch it MetalSammich. You still skatin'?

Not so much skating anymore, moved onto longboarding, a lot more relaxed and laid back and such, but still has that element of HGURHIGBSIHBHIR THAT WAS FUCKING COOL to it.

Had surgery on my left wrist last year as well, which was pretty crap, which pretty much told me NO MORE SKATING FOR YOU. I told it to get fucked though and started longboarding. Still hurts every so often and might have to go back in again because the same bullshit came back in it. Ganglion cyst in my left wrist. When the tendons in your wrist wear out and they leak fluid into your joints, etc.

Normal people can move their wrist backwards to a 90 degree angle with their forearm, I can only barely move it back 10 degrees, if anything at all some days.

Hurts like a twat after about half an hour of guitaring, but I'll survive.

Note: where I say "move my wrist backwards" I really mean "move my hand backwards". Whoops D:

At 7/16/11 03:03 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 7/16/11 07:43 AM, Bahamut wrote: That's nothing compared to the coffin.

Yeah, but that's a box-set. A lot of big bands do silly stuff like that for their fanboys, because they know some diehard fans will pay the 80 bucks it costs to have such a silly dust-collector kit.

But we've been making fun of silly box-sets. I'm not one for these gimmicks since all I need is the standard CD (maybe expanded if the bonus tracks are worth a damn) and not even my favourite bands would get me into these gimmicks. I just want to hear the damn album!

Welcome back SpeedMetalSandwich!

At 7/16/11 08:39 AM, AniMetal wrote:

At 7/16/11 07:52 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: So, how many of you dudes listen to 'Djent'? You know, Periphery, Chimp Spanner, Tesseract, Visions, etc.

So basically, mygaysugar worship bands?

"You're Meshuggah!"

"I am not your sugar!"

At 7/16/11 03:03 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 7/16/11 07:42 AM, PenisClown wrote: I watched Howl's Moving Castle the other day. And I heard there's a new Ghibli movie that's a drama based on an old manga coming out.

I don't know about this one, might have to check this one out.

Don't get your hopes up. The artwork and animation is amazing as any other Ghibli movie, but overall, it's merely an okay movie compared to the likes of Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, and Nausicaa. Pretty much every Ghibli movie is worth your time, though. Pom Poko and Porco Rosso are some of the more underrated ones.

The new Ghibli movie that recently came out is based on the Borrowers. I still haven't seen it, but I've heard good things.

If any of y'all are looking for anime to watch, I can give you a recommendation based on what you tell me you like. I do believe I have a pretty good taste in the stuff (I don't watch that girly bullshit). Although I am watching Thundercats right now, so...yeah.

At 7/17/11 11:31 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: (I don't watch that girly bullshit)

Bitch if you haven't seen Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha you don't know shit.

At 7/16/11 04:00 PM, AniMetal wrote:

I'm not talking about the song structure. I'm talking about the guitar riffs and scales, aka what makes it "djent"

What's that? You think djent is the GENRE? Lol you silly boy, as of 2011 djent is STILL just an onomatopoeia.

I have to approove here. I can't see Djent as a musical genre, since it's basically just a new form of Technical and Progressive Metal with chugging riffs that sound like... "Djent". You can't name a new genre based only on how the musicians of that so called new genre play their palm-mutes...

At 7/16/11 03:31 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Wouldn't go as far as saying "like Coldplay", but their most recent work is definitely more Rock then it is Metal.

Well, their new stuff is far closer to coldplay then 'emo"

We are just going way off track... Saying Katatonia is closer to Coldplay then Black Veil Brides is kind of useless, it's like saying Gorgoroth sound more like Nickelback then the Jonas Brothers...

When I think of "emo" I think of black veil brides and escape the fate. hahaha

I swear I didn't read that part before choosing Black Veil Brides for my example :P

I wish I went to see Agalloch when they played here in march, fucking 21+ shows.

Fucking teenagers at Metal gigs :P Lol, my girlfriend is 20 and she went to the show with me :)

It's like Paradise Lost improved to me. haha

Oh well, at least we agree that SX is a cool band :P

I found most of the songs on PL to be rather uninspired and boring. The drums and bass were easily the best part of the album. The guitar, keys, vocals and lyrics were all... so forgettable.

The lyrics? They were great on Paradise Lost, way better than what they are on Iconoclast. Most of the time, when I listen to Iconoclast, I can't help but think that the lyrical theme is kind of cool, but that the lyrics don't make much sense or that they just don't fit at all...

Like this one part of Dehumanized sounds play boring, generic and again Allen just fills the empty spots with "ooooh" all the time:

What's done is done - I'm dead inside
I'm what you've all become - Mindless and mesmerized

Dehumanized
I'm dehumanized
Don't you realize - I'm Dehumanized
Oh, and victimized
You can't break me
You unmake me - Dehumanized

Then the cheesy chorus of Bastard Of The Machines:

I see your demons rise -
Deep within your burning eyes
You are the Bastards of the Machine
The Bastards of the Machine

Dunno about that... but I get a weird Déjà vu right here...
And the chorus of The Lords Of Chaos that really tries way too hard to be the chorus of Set The World On Fire:

We rule, we fly
Above the lights of the neon sky
We fight, we cry
The Lords of Chaos will never die

Walls Of Babylon is probably my favorite song on PL though.

Solid track of course :)

There's a difference: I enjoy arguing, so when it's a topic that interests me I jump in.

As far as I can tell, you just argue with anyone who has a different opinion.

Well, you try to make it sound like it's different, but you do exactly the same as I do. And no, I don't fight with everyone who has a different opinion than I. Like I see a lot of people in here who think Mastodon are freakin' great... I couldn't agree less, but I don't fight with those who don't agree with me all the time...

UFO - Crystal Light

Om nom nom once again.

:)

At 7/16/11 08:15 PM, AniMetal wrote: Read the articles you link before you send them.

This. And even with the definition of SomaGuye... Djent just sounds like a mix of chug-chug riffs and technical guitar work mixed with an intense will to sound proggy by playing off-beat chugging riffs...

At 7/16/11 09:43 PM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: Which is why when I posted I wrote it as 'Djent'.

Also, I see that nothing has changed here since I've been gone. Awesome.

So, all the unnecessary bullshit arguing and elitism aside, Periphery and TesseracT are coming to Sydney soon enough and I'm going to see them :D going to be amazingly awesome.

I love how you guys whine about anything that comes close to any form on intellectual debates... We are not throwing rocks at each others or insults, we are debating the existence of Djent as a musical genre. There is no elitism involved in here.

And if we suck so much, why even bother coming back?

At 7/17/11 08:56 AM, Bahamut wrote:

At 7/16/11 03:03 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Yeah, but that's a box-set. A lot of big bands do silly stuff like that for their fanboys, because they know some diehard fans will pay the 80 bucks it costs to have such a silly dust-collector kit.

But we've been making fun of silly box-sets. I'm not one for these gimmicks since all I need is the standard CD (maybe expanded if the bonus tracks are worth a damn) and not even my favourite bands would get me into these gimmicks. I just want to hear the damn album!

I'd much rather invest in getting more albums, so more tracks then having just one album with a bunch of toys. Even if I'm a big fan of the band I can't help but think that only those who don't know a lot of music will invest in such a thing. I'm talking about the kind of kid who drops in here every once in a while to say he likes "only real metal" and name Pantera, Metallica and Iron Maiden, and refuse to listen to anything else we suggest him.

At 7/17/11 11:31 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: Don't get your hopes up. The artwork and animation is amazing as any other Ghibli movie, but overall, it's merely an okay movie compared to the likes of Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, and Nausicaa. Pretty much every Ghibli movie is worth your time, though. Pom Poko and Porco Rosso are some of the more underrated ones.

All japanesse animation movies I suppose :)
I don't know much about these, and in fact, I only saw the movie My Neighbor Totoro because of a friend of mine who really enjoys a lot the japanesse culture... so mangas, animes, cosplay, history, culture and alllll the stuff from Japan... except their Metal :'(

Symphony X - Masquerade

Future Dimebag? My guitar teacher in an amazing live solo in a Pantera tribute!

At 7/16/11 08:15 PM, AniMetal wrote: Read the articles you link before you send them.

My point is if you went to that page last year it was down with the reason "Djent is not a genre". The fact it's up now means that people are recognising it as a genre on it's own.

At 7/17/11 12:28 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 7/16/11 04:00 PM, AniMetal wrote:

I'm not talking about the song structure. I'm talking about the guitar riffs and scales, aka what makes it "djent"

What's that? You think djent is the GENRE? Lol you silly boy, as of 2011 djent is STILL just an onomatopoeia.

I have to approove here. I can't see Djent as a musical genre, since it's basically just a new form of Technical and Progressive Metal with chugging riffs that sound like... "Djent". You can't name a new genre based only on how the musicians of that so called new genre play their palm-mutes...

Why not? I could just say: "Hey you can't name it Metal just because it's heavy and thick resembling metal!" In my opinion just because Djent is an onomatopoeia it doesn't mean it can't be a musical genre.

At 7/17/11 02:13 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: Why not? I could just say: "Hey you can't name it Metal just because it's heavy and thick resembling metal!" In my opinion just because Djent is an onomatopoeia it doesn't mean it can't be a musical genre.

Ok, so we will call bands who use tremolo picking "Talalalalalalalal" and that will be a genre name. Why not? Cause it's stupid. Djent is basically just the sound of a palm-muted chord played by one of the bands you classify as "Djent". It doesn't describe any kind of musical genre and any band using that kind of palm-mute could be named Djent no matter if they were a Nu-Metal band, a Progressive Metal band or a Power Metal band. How does that make any sense to you?

At 7/17/11 05:40 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 7/17/11 02:13 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: Why not? I could just say: "Hey you can't name it Metal just because it's heavy and thick resembling metal!" In my opinion just because Djent is an onomatopoeia it doesn't mean it can't be a musical genre.

Ok, so we will call bands who use tremolo picking "Talalalalalalalal" and that will be a genre name. Why not? Cause it's stupid. Djent is basically just the sound of a palm-muted chord played by one of the bands you classify as "Djent". It doesn't describe any kind of musical genre and any band using that kind of palm-mute could be named Djent no matter if they were a Nu-Metal band, a Progressive Metal band or a Power Metal band. How does that make any sense to you?

But Djent bands, me accepting the existence of such genre, have a common type of sound that makes them fit in one genre, and it's not progressive metal, it's not metalcore... the only genre that, in my opinion, sounds more or less like Djent bands do is mathcore, but they're still not mathcore.
I accept Djent as a new genre. But I know it's useless to discuss about it, I can say everything I want to defend that Djent is a genre of music, but you will just respond with your arguments and be even more convicted that Djent is not a genre of music. So, let's just stop now, you don't accept Djent as genre of music but I do, just don't kill me.

At 7/17/11 07:01 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: But Djent bands, me accepting the existence of such genre, have a common type of sound that makes them fit in one genre, and it's not progressive metal, it's not metalcore... the only genre that, in my opinion, sounds more or less like Djent bands do is mathcore, but they're still not mathcore.
I accept Djent as a new genre. But I know it's useless to discuss about it, I can say everything I want to defend that Djent is a genre of music, but you will just respond with your arguments and be even more convicted that Djent is not a genre of music. So, let's just stop now, you don't accept Djent as genre of music but I do, just don't kill me.

I didn't say that I would refuse to change my mind. In fact, I understand why you think it's a genre. Of course there are elements of sound and structure shared by the different "Djent" bands. But I'm not ready to call it a new genre. Let's say I would start a Black Metal band and add some weird elements to it... something like Sigh. I would have started some kind of new sound in Black Metal. But when can you tell that a band has just created a new genre? To me, Djent just sounds like a mix of Sludgy Progressive Metal and Mathcore. I really just don't know if I'm ready to say Djent is a new genre...

I agree with duff.

Bands like Periphery and TesseracT really are just a mixture of mathcore, some progressive metal elements and some technical death metal elements. And lots of Mygaysugar influence.

Saying it's a new genre is pretty premature, since there's only like ten bands and all of them are under ten years old. :P

At 7/17/11 12:28 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I love how you guys whine about anything that comes close to any form on intellectual debates... We are not throwing rocks at each others or insults, we are debating the existence of Djent as a musical genre. There is no elitism involved in here.

And if we suck so much, why even bother coming back?

Just like I said. Nothing's changed since I've been gone, you still react as if someones directly attacked you and decide to take offense to every comment made. I never said you or anybody here 'sucked', or that I wasn't happy to be back, I'm more than happy. This place is awesome. Sure I went a bit far with saying 'elitism', my bad, I take that back.

Continue this discussion of 'Djent', I'm always interested in what people have to say about it all.

Oh, and for the record, I don't consider 'Djent' a genre. It was just an easier way for me to describe what bands I was talking about.

At 7/17/11 07:22 PM, AniMetal wrote: Saying it's a new genre is pretty premature, since there's only like ten bands and all of them are under ten years old. :P

Got Djent?

Plenty of bands if you ask me.

At 7/18/11 02:19 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: Got Djent?

Plenty of bands if you ask me.

Plus, before you go saying OLOLOLOL THERE'S ONLY 10 BANDS ON THAT PAGE, there's also this list ranking them based off of popularity (based on users on the site)

List

This week brings us Slough Feg!

I know some of you will be happy with this one.

At 7/17/11 12:28 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 7/17/11 08:56 AM, Bahamut wrote: But we've been making fun of silly box-sets. I'm not one for these gimmicks since all I need is the standard CD (maybe expanded if the bonus tracks are worth a damn) and not even my favourite bands would get me into these gimmicks. I just want to hear the damn album!

I'd much rather invest in getting more albums, so more tracks then having just one album with a bunch of toys.

OK, I admit, I did get one "gimmick" but it was only a bobblehead figurine for the new Alestorm album. I'm actually good with album releases that come with any awesome looking figurines.

On another note, I got Morbid Angel's Covenant today and will finally have Blessed are the Sick in my possession. Trey, you can shove that stupid wooden box for your new album up your ass.

At 7/17/11 11:31 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: Don't get your hopes up. The artwork and animation is amazing as any other Ghibli movie, but overall, it's merely an okay movie compared to the likes of Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, and Nausicaa.

I saw Mononoke, Spirited Away, Nausicaa, Laputa, all before I saw Howl's Moving Castle, I didn't watch it until two weeks ago. I waited a long time to watch Howl's Moving Castle. And yeah, at the end of it, I was like, what the fuck was up with that plot. Was it talking about ideals and shit or something? Bitch gets old, then isn't.

Princess Mononoke is fucking boss and gnarly. Spirited Away is something I want to watch on acid.

At 7/18/11 07:29 AM, Bahamut wrote: This week brings us Slough Feg!

I know some of you will be happy with this one.

Yeah we made this sick album called Traveller. But we just try to write songs that aren't as good nowadays. You know. To make Traveller seem even better.

:Trey, you can shove that stupid wooden box for your new album up your ass.

He'd be even more metal if he did. And took pictures. And it's the next album cover.

Only now I hear the former Motörhead guitarist Würzel died. It happened 9 days ago which was when I had my 21st birthday party so that's how that news slipped through for me until now. Sucks he passed away.

At 7/18/11 09:30 AM, PenisClown wrote: Yeah we made this sick album called Traveller. But we just try to write songs that aren't as good nowadays. You know. To make Traveller seem even better.

It's sad because Mike Scalzi has stated he's not going to work on another ambitious album like Traveller again since he felt he's done his best already. Still, even saying that all the following albums are great stuff.

Trey, you can shove that stupid wooden box for your new album up your ass.

He'd be even more metal if he did. And took pictures. And it's the next album cover.

LOL! Funny how that would redeem him right now.

At 7/17/11 07:37 AM, PenisClown wrote: Only losers listen to Burzum.

Dat sum gangsta shit.

WHAT THE FUCK MORBID ANGEL!!!!!!!???????!!!!!!!!
Too Extreme
I haven't listened to any of the new MA yet and looked it up on youtube and this is what I hear.... Seriously did static-X help with this CD? Of course I like Static-X (Don't hate me) but this isn't what morbid angel should be doing. How is this death metal? Fucking rape my ears.

At 7/18/11 10:51 AM, AllMightyBruce wrote:

At 7/17/11 07:37 AM, PenisClown wrote: Only losers listen to Burzum.

Dat sum gangsta shit.

Str8 Thug Busta