At 7/13/11 01:07 AM, mothballs wrote:

At 7/11/11 10:59 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Megadeth's next album is going to be called "Th1rt3en", I guess.

Really.

I thought Megadeth was getting better and better as time goes on (oddly enough), but the name of this album isn't a very good indication.

Oh, I have no doubt it'll be a very good album, but...really, Mustaine? Th1rt3en?

At 7/15/11 08:51 AM, Bahamut wrote: I never listened to Paradise Lost but after hearing some saying Iconoclast wasn't as good as it, I really want to give the album a shot and decide for myself.

Then get this fucking non-sense of a case !!!

At 7/15/11 06:48 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 7/15/11 08:51 AM, Bahamut wrote: I never listened to Paradise Lost but after hearing some saying Iconoclast wasn't as good as it, I really want to give the album a shot and decide for myself.

Then get this fucking non-sense of a case !!!

At least it's not a stupid wooden box!

Dopethrone is a masterpiece, why has it taken me so long to appreciate it. In other news, I trust you've all heard the preview of the upcoming Mastodon album, sounds awesome.

At 7/15/11 06:59 PM, Bahamut wrote:

At 7/15/11 06:48 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 7/15/11 08:51 AM, Bahamut wrote: I never listened to Paradise Lost but after hearing some saying Iconoclast wasn't as good as it, I really want to give the album a shot and decide for myself.

Then get this fucking non-sense of a case !!!

At least it's not a stupid wooden box!

IT'S...BEAUTIFUL

At 7/15/11 07:10 PM, JaY11 wrote: In other news, I trust you've all heard the preview of the upcoming Mastodon album, sounds awesome.

I actually hate artists doing this. They give a sample of one song and you'll have to wait a few months for the album to come out. The worst part is actually the song sounding really good. It only makes me hype for the album more and at times I can set my expectations too high. If they're going to show you a new song to keep the fans occupied, they may as well show the whole thing. For the new Manilla Road album, unless you got the LP version early, all we've heard so far from it for a few months now is half a track.

Putting that aside, I'm liking the sound of the new Mastodon song... A lot!

This thread is not about retarded album or booklet designs :)

Fuck you Metallica!

At 7/15/11 09:43 PM, batman64 wrote: saw the Fly remake with Jeff Goldblum on acid..took on new meaning and saw it as a fable about aids
man meets girl, man fights girl and screws hooker, becomes more fly than man til he loses his head completely, almost kills girl, girl kills him...yeah, kinda cool movie on acid

Can't watch it now that you spoiled it >:(
Thanks! Motherfucker!

Anyway, you think Katatonia is going to be any good at that gig? It would be awesome to have the good ol'Katatonia playing with Opeth on the same stage the same night :)

Symphony X - Inferno (unleash The Fire)

At 7/11/11 12:02 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

I think it's oo-foe-mam-utt

more like... U.F.O. Mammut...

I've been saying it like that but I really don't know who the authority is on how to say it.

OOFOMAMOOT is pretty cool though.

Watch the movie My Neighbor Totoro

I watched Howl's Moving Castle the other day. And I heard there's a new Ghibli movie that's a drama based on an old manga coming out.

You and me a really similar, and that's fucking creepy. Canada, Australia, what the hell's the difference.

At 7/11/11 06:22 PM, Tobi wrote: Can somebody tell me what differs speed metal from power/thrash/trad. metal?

Speed metal doesn't exist, it's just a term people used to use. Because we have more fun saying power/thrash nowadays.

At 7/11/11 06:37 PM, mothballs wrote: In conclusion I just want to say that Gaahl and King of Gorgoroth getting split from the band has to be the worst band breakup ever. I really wish Gaahl did more with Gorgoroth :(

Nooo.

At 7/15/11 07:10 PM, JaY11 wrote: Dopethrone is a masterpiece, why has it taken me so long to appreciate it.

Was 5 minutes in to it as I read this.... :))))

At 7/15/11 09:23 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: This thread is not about retarded album or booklet designs :)

Fuck you Metallica!

Oh, the hairy shit stained vagina album.

At 7/15/11 09:43 PM, batman64 wrote: buzzed as hell right now on some killer hydro grooving to old childhood faves

DROP

OUUUT OF LIFE

WITH BOOOONG

IIIIIIIN

HAAAAAND

Bill, you remind me of me when I'm your age. Wait what. YOU keep it heavy bro.

At 7/15/11 10:13 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Anyway, you think Katatonia is going to be any good at that gig? It would be awesome to have the good ol'Katatonia playing with Opeth on the same stage the same night :)

Katatonia, the only emo band that ever sounded good. Was listening to some tracks of Tonight's Decision and The Great Cold Distance on the plane the other day. Do you know that track My Twin off Great Cold Distance Duff? Best emo song ever, bada bing bada booooom.

I'm in Adelaide, anyone live in Adelaide?

At 7/15/11 09:43 PM, batman64 wrote: so yeah been surfing around the net and found the cover for the New Opeth disc due sept. on the Archives...dunno, looks kinda trippy to me..something Cathedral would use..wondering if maybe that might mean a possible nod to a new direction music wise..could be kinda cool if that's the case

I feel the new Opeth album will be a one off or maybe something they won't do again until five albums time. Mikael has said this is an album he's always wanted to make so if it happens to flop, I'm sure they'll return to their former roots. However, if it's taking a 70s prog rock movement, it's hard to see it failing. At least the band know a suitable route to take with their music unlike Morbid Angel with their new abomination.

As for Cathedral, I've been picking up more and more of their albums. I'll be seeing them live on their very last show so I need to hear all their albums beforehand. I'm suspecting they'll play at least one song from all their albums so I better prepare myself for December. I just got Endtyme today and I'm waiting for The Carnival Bizarre to arrive. That will leave me with Supernatural Birth Machine, Caravan Beyond Redemption and The VIIth Coming so feel free to share your thoughts on the albums I'm missing.

At 7/15/11 09:23 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: This thread is not about retarded album or booklet designs :)

Fuck you Metallica!

That's nothing compared to the coffin.

So, how many of you dudes listen to 'Djent'? You know, Periphery, Chimp Spanner, Tesseract, Visions, etc.

At 7/16/11 07:52 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: So, how many of you dudes listen to 'Djent'? You know, Periphery, Chimp Spanner, Tesseract, Visions, etc.

So basically, mygaysugar worship bands?

At 7/15/11 10:13 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Anyway, you think Katatonia is going to be any good at that gig? It would be awesome to have the good ol'Katatonia playing with Opeth on the same stage the same night :)

Yes, I saw Katatonia back with Orphaned Land and Swallow The Sun last year.

Their stage presence isn't amazing or anything, but the improvisation they do with their guitars and drums make their already good songs even better.

Symphony X - Inferno (unleash The Fire)

You listen to Symphony X too much. haha

At 7/16/11 07:52 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: So, how many of you dudes listen to 'Djent'? You know, Periphery, Chimp Spanner, Tesseract, Visions, etc.

Me hello there.

At 7/16/11 08:39 AM, AniMetal wrote:

At 7/16/11 07:52 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: So, how many of you dudes listen to 'Djent'? You know, Periphery, Chimp Spanner, Tesseract, Visions, etc.

So basically, mygaysugar worship bands?

Congratulations you've never listened to any of them but are hopping on that bandwagon anyway.

If you were to actually listen to them, and then listen to Meshuggah, you would see how stupid you sound.

Meshuggah didn't invent palm muting or funny time signatures.

I've finally listened to YOB, and it's damn good, I'm just wondering why I haven't listened to them earlier. Maybe their name is not very attractive to me...

And I've also finally drank Mead! I feel fulfilled.

At 7/16/11 07:52 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: So, how many of you dudes listen to 'Djent'? You know, Periphery, Chimp Spanner, Tesseract, Visions, etc.

Hi :)

TesseracT and Vildhjarta are my favourite ones.

At 7/16/11 11:23 AM, SomaGuye wrote:

At 7/16/11 08:39 AM, AniMetal wrote:

At 7/16/11 07:52 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: So, how many of you dudes listen to 'Djent'? You know, Periphery, Chimp Spanner, Tesseract, Visions, etc.

So basically, mygaysugar worship bands?

Congratulations you've never listened to any of them but are hopping on that bandwagon anyway.
If you were to actually listen to them, and then listen to Meshuggah, you would see how stupid you sound.

Djent isn't a genre. Djent is literally, just onomatopoeia. "Djent" is a specific guitar technique and sound, used rhythmically to emphasize polyrhythms. Instead of sustained chords or melodies, "djent" is a low-pitched but precise sound, accenting certain beats, and nothing in between... so it's kind of sludgy, but clean sounding at the same time.

I've listened to Meshuggah, TesseracT, Periphery AND Veil Of Maya(VoM being a band he DIDN'T mention) all of them are pretty damn similar to meshuggah and all of whom follow that djent signature sound.

TesseracT specifically is basically identical to Meshuggah, and the only REAL way they differ is vocally.

At 7/16/11 11:44 AM, AniMetal wrote: Djent isn't a genre. Djent is literally, just onomatopoeia.

Never heard of evolution of language? Ska started out the same way, you going to tell me that isn't a genre?

I've listened to Meshuggah, TesseracT, Periphery AND Veil Of Maya(VoM being a band he DIDN'T mention) all of them are pretty damn similar to meshuggah and all of whom follow that djent signature sound.

Veil of Maya aren't djent so you should have left them unmentioned. THey don't sound like Meshuggah at all.

If you think this sounds like this then I can't even begin to imagine what must be wrong with your ears.

TesseracT specifically is basically identical to Meshuggah, and the only REAL way they differ is vocally.

Uhh, no. Tesseract have melody. Something Meshuggah have always avoided.

All they share with Meshuggah is a basic idea, emphasis on a pulse in changing time signatures. The music they construct around that is completely different.

Recently I have become a huge fan of The Black Dahlia Murder thanks to Jay11 for posting a song off of Nocturnal. I have purchased Nocturnal, Deflorate, and their newest Ritual. I don't know how the rest of everyone feels about them but I have taken a huge interest in this band.

At 7/16/11 11:59 AM, SomaGuye wrote: Never heard of evolution of language? Ska started out the same way, you going to tell me that isn't a genre?

...that's totally different all together.

Djent is a SOUND. Ska is the genre that people played in Jamaica back in the 50's and 60's which later evolved to have drums and eventually fused with punk in the late 80's with bands such as Operation Ivy and Sublime and became more poppish by the early 00's.

I've listened to Meshuggah, TesseracT, Periphery AND Veil Of Maya(VoM being a band he DIDN'T mention) all of them are pretty damn similar to meshuggah and all of whom follow that djent signature sound.

Veil of Maya aren't djent so you should have left them unmentioned. THey don't sound like Meshuggah at all.

Sonata Arctica's first album doesn't sound TOTALLY like Stratovarius, it's still strato worship.
Fates Warning's first three albums doesn't TOTALLY sound like Iron Maiden, it's still maiden worship.

A band can basically cocksuck another band's style but still be unique enough to have their own sound.

If you think this sounds like this then I can't even begin to imagine what must be wrong with your ears.

Coming from the one who thinks djent is a genre.

TesseracT specifically is basically identical to Meshuggah, and the only REAL way they differ is vocally.

Uhh, no. Tesseract have melody. Something Meshuggah have always avoided.

You're lucky that Speedmetalsandwich is the only REAL Meshuggah fan in this club, otherwise they would rape you.

All they share with Meshuggah is a basic idea, emphasis on a pulse in changing time signatures. The music they construct around that is completely different.

You've ONLY listened to obZen haven't you? Listened to some other meshuggah sometime, TesseracT is exactly that. Only with a metalcore vocalist.

At 7/16/11 07:42 AM, PenisClown wrote: I watched Howl's Moving Castle the other day. And I heard there's a new Ghibli movie that's a drama based on an old manga coming out.

I don't know about this one, might have to check this one out.

You and me a really similar, and that's fucking creepy. Canada, Australia, what the hell's the difference.

I wouldn't call myself a "Canadian" no matter what's written on my passport. But thanks :P

Speed metal doesn't exist, it's just a term people used to use. Because we have more fun saying power/thrash nowadays.

That. So bands like Gamma Ray used to use the term Speed Metal to describe their sound, but Power/Thrash is really what we used to call "Speed Metal".

At 7/11/11 06:37 PM, mothballs wrote: In conclusion I just want to say that Gaahl and King of Gorgoroth getting split from the band has to be the worst band breakup ever. I really wish Gaahl did more with Gorgoroth :(

Talking about Gorgoroth, what are your favorite records by them? And I'm aking this to anybody in here :)

Katatonia, the only emo band that ever sounded good. Was listening to some tracks of Tonight's Decision and The Great Cold Distance on the plane the other day. Do you know that track My Twin off Great Cold Distance Duff? Best emo song ever, bada bing bada booooom.

Nope, will check this out, two :)

At 7/16/11 07:43 AM, Bahamut wrote: That's nothing compared to the coffin.

Yeah, but that's a box-set. A lot of big bands do silly stuff like that for their fanboys, because they know some diehard fans will pay the 80 bucks it costs to have such a silly dust-collector kit.

At 7/16/11 07:52 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: So, how many of you dudes listen to 'Djent'? You know, Periphery, Chimp Spanner, Tesseract, Visions, etc.

Isn't Djent just a cheap evolution of technical chug-core mixed with the worst elements of Progressive Metal?

At 7/16/11 08:39 AM, AniMetal wrote: So basically, mygaysugar worship bands?

I lol'ed

Yes, I saw Katatonia back with Orphaned Land and Swallow The Sun last year.

Their stage presence isn't amazing or anything, but the improvisation they do with their guitars and drums make their already good songs even better.

So even if their sound isn't quite the same as it was... they are still enjoyable, cool :)

Symphony X - Inferno (unleash The Fire)

You listen to Symphony X too much. haha

Yup, since the new album came out, I've been listenning to SX a lot. But if you want to see retards who listen to the same fucking band way too much, go pay a visit to the Last.Fm Club and look at their charts.

Btw, looking at the argument going on between AniMetal and SomaGuye... I sit back and drink a cold lemonade... it's so good to watch from a distance every once in a while :P

Morbid Saint - Assassin

At 7/16/11 03:03 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 7/16/11 07:42 AM, PenisClown wrote: I watched Howl's Moving Castle the other day. And I heard there's a new Ghibli movie that's a drama based on an old manga coming out.

I don't know about this one, might have to check this one out.

Howl's Moving Castle is pretty amazing, definitely watch it.

Speed metal doesn't exist, it's just a term people used to use. Because we have more fun saying power/thrash nowadays.

That. So bands like Gamma Ray used to use the term Speed Metal to describe their sound, but Power/Thrash is really what we used to call "Speed Metal".

The way I see it:

Thrash Metal
Oldschool Power Metal ("Speed metal" or "power metal with balls" are the other descriptions people call it)
Power Metal

It's three genres. Oldschool Power Metal is the bridge between power and thrash.

Just like how oldschool death metal is the bridge between death metal and the other DM genres, and how 1st wave black metal is the bridge between thrash metal and 2nd/3rd wave BM.

Katatonia, the only emo band that ever sounded good. Was listening to some tracks of Tonight's Decision and The Great Cold Distance on the plane the other day. Do you know that track My Twin off Great Cold Distance Duff? Best emo song ever, bada bing bada booooom.

Nope, will check this out, two :)

I wouldn't even call Katatonia emo now.

Just alternative rock, as much as I hate to say it they're more comparable to bands like Coldplay.

That being said, Katatonia still rip the shit out of the bands similar to them.

Katatonia '98-present is basically one really big cliche... just presented in a really unique way. I suppose that's the best way to describe their newer stuff.

At 7/16/11 07:52 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: So, how many of you dudes listen to 'Djent'? You know, Periphery, Chimp Spanner, Tesseract, Visions, etc.

Isn't Djent just a cheap evolution of technical chug-core mixed with the worst elements of Progressive Metal?

Pretty much, yeah.

So even if their sound isn't quite the same as it was... they are still enjoyable, cool :)

Indeed. And they aren't very heavy live usually, so you can expect a somewhat relaxing show by them so you can keep your energy for the main act. ;D

Yup, since the new album came out, I've been listenning to SX a lot. But if you want to see retards who listen to the same fucking band way too much, go pay a visit to the Last.Fm Club and look at their charts.

Haha nice.

I disagree with your earlier sentiments though, I think Iconoclasm rapes the shit out of both The Odyssey and Paradise Lost. (The Odyssey itself being the only song I REALLY enjoy off those two albums)

Maybe it's just the shiny newness of iconoclasm that makes me enjoy it so much. We'll see in a few months how I feel. haha

Btw, looking at the argument going on between AniMetal and SomaGuye... I sit back and drink a cold lemonade... it's so good to watch from a distance every once in a while :P

Yeah, you not in an argument. It's a pretty new experience, isn't it? ;P

Just fucking with you mate, but there is some truth to it. haha

Morbid Saint - Assassin

Nothing best the best.

At 7/16/11 03:16 PM, AniMetal wrote: Just like how oldschool death metal is the bridge between death metal and the other DM genres, and how 1st wave black metal is the bridge between thrash metal and 2nd/3rd wave BM.

Just like how oldschool death metal is the bridge between THRASH metal and the other DM genres, and how 1st wave black metal is the bridge between thrash metal and 2nd/3rd wave BM.

That was a really awful typo on my part which changes the sentence's meaning all together, forgive the double post.

At 7/16/11 03:16 PM, AniMetal wrote: Howl's Moving Castle is pretty amazing, definitely watch it.

You fanboy :P

It's three genres. Oldschool Power Metal is the bridge between power and thrash.

Just like how oldschool death metal is the bridge between death metal and the other DM genres, and how 1st wave black metal is the bridge between thrash metal and 2nd/3rd wave BM.

Might be somewhat like you described it, yes :)

Just alternative rock, as much as I hate to say it they're more comparable to bands like Coldplay.

Wouldn't go as far as saying "like Coldplay", but their most recent work is definitely more Rock then it is Metal.

Indeed. And they aren't very heavy live usually, so you can expect a somewhat relaxing show by them so you can keep your energy for the main act. ;D

That's cool actually... And I think Agalloch should have aimed for that just a little more, not that some of their tracks are not more energic, but they played even their most atmospheric tracks with a completely different energy... Dunno if I'm making myself understandable right now...

I disagree with your earlier sentiments though, I think Iconoclasm rapes the shit out of both The Odyssey and Paradise Lost. (The Odyssey itself being the only song I REALLY enjoy off those two albums)

Seriously? I thought making a review for Iconoclast for MA and call it "Paradise Lost Part 2". It's just way too similar, but it lacks some of it's hooks, energy and awesome choruses. I think the tracks Paradise Lost and Set The World On Fire are UNBELIEVABLE !!!

Maybe it's just the shiny newness of iconoclasm that makes me enjoy it so much. We'll see in a few months how I feel. haha

We'll say. We'll try to remember to bring back the subject :P

Yeah, you not in an argument. It's a pretty new experience, isn't it? ;P

Hey dude, I'm usually fighting with you... Don't you realise you like to start these arguments all the time two? :P

Morbid Saint - Assassin

Nothing best the best.

Of course :)

UFO - Crystal Light

At 7/16/11 02:09 PM, AniMetal wrote:

...that's totally different all together.

Djent is a SOUND. Ska is the genre that people played in Jamaica back in the 50's and 60's which later evolved to have drums and eventually fused with punk in the late 80's with bands such as Operation Ivy and Sublime and became more poppish by the early 00's.

Uhh, but no, it's called Ska because that was originally the onomatopeia they gave to the sound of the off beat guitar chords. Just like Djent is the sound on that style of palm mute. The evolution of one facet of the music into an entire genre has happened before with Ska, so stop living 5 years ago still only calling djent a sound.

Sonata Arctica's first album doesn't sound TOTALLY like Stratovarius, it's still strato worship.
Fates Warning's first three albums doesn't TOTALLY sound like Iron Maiden, it's still maiden worship.

A band can basically cocksuck another band's style but still be unique enough to have their own sound.

Yes, that's called inspiration, and every band has it. I don't see exactly what point you're trying to make, are you saying that every band inspired by another band sucks?

Coming from the one who thinks djent is a genre.

Because it is now.

You're lucky that Speedmetalsandwich is the only REAL Meshuggah fan in this club, otherwise they would rape you.

For saying Meshuggah have no melody? No they wouldn't, because that's a key point of Meshuggah's music. Unrelenting dissonance and rhythmic obliteration.

You've ONLY listened to obZen haven't you? Listened to some other meshuggah sometime, TesseracT is exactly that. Only with a metalcore vocalist.

I have listened to other Meshuggah albums, I don't get what your dispute is because that's a key theme throughout all of Meshuggah's work, layering complex signatures over a 4/4 base. Tesseract don't even use a 4/4 base, so their song structure is completely different.

At 7/16/11 02:09 PM, AniMetal wrote: Coming from the one who thinks djent is a genre.

By the way nice ad hominem instead of actually addressing my point.

At 7/16/11 03:41 PM, SomaGuye wrote: Uhh, but no, it's called Ska because that was originally the onomatopeia they gave to the sound of the off beat guitar chords. Just like Djent is the sound on that style of palm mute. The evolution of one facet of the music into an entire genre has happened before with Ska, so stop living 5 years ago still only calling djent a sound.

I don't know enough about ska to further comment.

However, I can tell you ska started back in the early 50's or maybe even late 40's. Evolution of words takes a long time, even if the evolution of music itself does not.

So as of 2011, djent isn't a genre. Maybe by 2020 if bands are still worshiping the shit out of meshuggah, things will be different. Maybe.

Yes, that's called inspiration, and every band has it. I don't see exactly what point you're trying to make, are you saying that every band inspired by another band sucks?

No.

"Wow, this band is great. It inspires my band!"
"Wow, this band is great. I think i'm going to try to sound like them!"

That's the difference.

I have listened to other Meshuggah albums, I don't get what your dispute is because that's a key theme throughout all of Meshuggah's work, layering complex signatures over a 4/4 base. Tesseract don't even use a 4/4 base, so their song structure is completely different.

I'm not talking about the song structure. I'm talking about the guitar riffs and scales, aka what makes it "djent"

What's that? You think djent is the GENRE? Lol you silly boy, as of 2011 djent is STILL just an onomatopoeia.

At 7/16/11 03:45 PM, SomaGuye wrote:

At 7/16/11 02:09 PM, AniMetal wrote: Coming from the one who thinks djent is a genre.

By the way nice ad hominem instead of actually addressing my point.

k.

At 7/16/11 03:31 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Wouldn't go as far as saying "like Coldplay", but their most recent work is definitely more Rock then it is Metal.

Well, their new stuff is far closer to coldplay then 'emo"

When I think of "emo" I think of black veil brides and escape the fate. hahaha

Indeed. And they aren't very heavy live usually, so you can expect a somewhat relaxing show by them so you can keep your energy for the main act. ;D

That's cool actually... And I think Agalloch should have aimed for that just a little more, not that some of their tracks are not more energic, but they played even their most atmospheric tracks with a completely different energy... Dunno if I'm making myself understandable right now...

I wish I went to see Agalloch when they played here in march, fucking 21+ shows.

Seriously? I thought making a review for Iconoclast for MA and call it "Paradise Lost Part 2". It's just way too similar, but it lacks some of it's hooks, energy and awesome choruses. I think the tracks Paradise Lost and Set The World On Fire are UNBELIEVABLE !!!

It's like Paradise Lost improved to me. haha

I found most of the songs on PL to be rather uninspired and boring. The drums and bass were easily the best part of the album. The guitar, keys, vocals and lyrics were all... so forgettable.

Walls Of Babylon is probably my favorite song on PL though.

Hey dude, I'm usually fighting with you... Don't you realise you like to start these arguments all the time two? :P

There's a difference: I enjoy arguing, so when it's a topic that interests me I jump in.

As far as I can tell, you just argue with anyone who has a different opinion.

I could be wrong though, it'd be easier to tell if I knew you in person. haha

UFO - Crystal Light

Om nom nom once again.

At 7/16/11 04:00 PM, AniMetal wrote: I'm not talking about the song structure. I'm talking about the guitar riffs and scales, aka what makes it "djent"

If you're going to say a band are ripping of another one you god damn better have the musical know how to compare them. Meshuggah's prime scale is the chromatic scale, which believe it or not was around long before they were and is going to be used by musicians long after they're all dead. The only thing comparable between the bands is the style of riffing, which has a focus on off beat palm mutes and rhythmic precision. If you think that's enough to call a band a rip off then christ every band around today is a rip off of another one.

At 7/16/11 04:33 PM, SomaGuye wrote: which has a focus on off beat palm mutes and rhythmic precision.

Syncopation that is the word I was looking for.

At 7/16/11 04:33 PM, SomaGuye wrote: If you're going to say a band are ripping of another one you god damn better have the musical know how to compare them. Meshuggah's prime scale is the chromatic scale, which believe it or not was around long before they were and is going to be used by musicians long after they're all dead. The only thing comparable between the bands is the style of riffing, which has a focus on off beat palm mutes and rhythmic precision. If you think that's enough to call a band a rip off then christ every band around today is a rip off of another one.

Cool story, bro. I'm bored now. I would prove you wrong with technical terms and whatnot, but i'm not a guitarist so I couldn't even if I wanted.

But it doesn't change the fact djent isn't a genre. At all.

At 7/16/11 04:48 PM, AniMetal wrote: But it doesn't change the fact djent isn't a genre. At all.

Cool story bro.

At 7/16/11 05:46 PM, SomaGuye wrote:

At 7/16/11 04:48 PM, AniMetal wrote: But it doesn't change the fact djent isn't a genre. At all.

Cool story bro.

"The word "djent" is an onomatopoeia for a heavily palm-muted, distorted guitar chord. Typically, the word is used to refer to music that makes use of this sound, to the sound itself, or to the scene that revolves around it"

Read the articles you link before you send them.