At 7/1/11 09:08 PM, Bahamut wrote: I said no vacancies!

I lol'd.

At 7/1/11 09:25 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 7/1/11 06:16 PM, AniMetal wrote: Kevin Moore and John Myung ARE Dream Theater.

That statement is untrue. Most musicians take part in the writting in Dream Theater. Each one of the guys has written good tracks for the band.

Oh yeah, they all do write. But Moore and Myung wrote almost all their best songs specifically. :P

Kevin Moore was a great keyboardist, but tell me how Rudess makes that much of worst job then him...

Because Kevin Moore actually wrote songs. Ruddess writes wankfests.

Technically Ruddess is a better keyboardist, but he jacks off so much on his keyboard that it isn't melodically pleasing half the time. As Moore always was semi-technical and melodic.

Plus, Moore wrote Space Dye Vest. Not Ruddess.

So with Moore out of the band, and with "In The Name Of God" being the last song Myung ever wrote with the band... basically they suck now.

I'm not a huge fan of their most recent material, but saying that they suck is an overstatement.

They don't suck now. But they suck compared to their old stuff.

And the fact James LaBrie's vocals really went down the shitter doesn't help matters any.

He's a great vocalist...

Don't get me wrong, he was. Awake probably has some of my all time favorite vocals of all time... buuuuuuuuuuut....

At 7/1/11 09:08 PM, Bahamut wrote: I said no vacancies!

But my son the messiah is about to be born.

This is officially my favorite guitar cover!!!!!! You have no clue how much I feel connected to this song. :D

At 7/1/11 09:40 PM, smeagol1 wrote: This is officially my favorite guitar cover!!!!!! You have no clue how much I feel connected to this song. :D

Im serious, if I had to be trapped in oblivion forever this is what I would have play in my head forever. This song describes my life really in my opinion.

At 7/1/11 08:32 PM, SomaGuye wrote:

At 7/1/11 08:04 PM, smeagol1 wrote: not like anyone going to vote for me, no one care about the forests and tr00 black metalz ents anymore.

No one would vote for you because you're a shit poster with some of the worst tastes in the club.

Haha woah

SomaGuye telling someone else they have bad taste

Haha woah

At 7/2/11 12:17 AM, Gobblemeister wrote: SomaGuye telling someone else they have bad taste

Especially after our argument during which he insisted that musical taste was subjective...

Xasthur - A Gate Through Bloodstained Mirrors

At 7/1/11 05:22 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 7/1/11 08:57 AM, Bahamut wrote: Damn, the album is quite rare. I'll have to swipe it now. :P Surely it won't be a birthday present I'll get a week on Tuesday.

If you go to Ron Jarzombeck's personnal website, I'm pretty sure you could get it for a good price. It's not like the label stopped making copies of the album. Or did they? I don't think so.

Well, I'm seeing very little quantities of it on Amazon and the site itself is selling it for £17.29. That's how much they sell some of the Manilla Road albums.

At 7/1/11 09:47 PM, smeagol1 wrote:

At 7/1/11 09:40 PM, smeagol1 wrote: This is officially my favorite guitar cover!!!!!! You have no clue how much I feel connected to this song. :D

Im serious, if I had to be trapped in oblivion forever this is what I would have play in my head forever. This song describes my life really in my opinion.

Have fun with that.

At 7/2/11 12:17 AM, Gobblemeister wrote: Haha woah

SomaGuye telling someone else they have bad taste

Haha woah

Haah Waaw

At 7/2/11 01:35 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 7/2/11 12:17 AM, Gobblemeister wrote: SomaGuye telling someone else they have bad taste

Especially after our argument during which he insisted that musical taste was subjective...

Internet.

So Machine Head came out with a new single. It's pretty darn catchy.

At 7/2/11 08:17 AM, SomaGuye wrote:

At 7/2/11 12:17 AM, Gobblemeister wrote: Haha woah

SomaGuye telling someone else they have bad taste

Haha woah

Haah Waaw

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

At 7/2/11 06:05 AM, Bahamut wrote: Well, I'm seeing very little quantities of it on Amazon and the site itself is selling it for £17.29. That's how much they sell some of the Manilla Road albums.

What's the big deal? You think Manilla Road albums are worth paying £17.29, but you wouldn't pay that much for a Blotted Science album?

At 7/2/11 02:14 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 7/2/11 06:05 AM, Bahamut wrote: Well, I'm seeing very little quantities of it on Amazon and the site itself is selling it for £17.29. That's how much they sell some of the Manilla Road albums.

What's the big deal? You think Manilla Road albums are worth paying £17.29, but you wouldn't pay that much for a Blotted Science album?

Who said I bought any Manilla Road albums from Amazon? I've been buying them elsewhere and not even eBay has been very helpful with finding their albums. Actually, I did get two albums of theirs from Amazon but only because I couldn't find them any cheaper. Blotted Science on the other hand, I've found their album for £10.

At 7/2/11 02:21 PM, Bahamut wrote: Who said I bought any Manilla Road albums from Amazon? I've been buying them elsewhere and not even eBay has been very helpful with finding their albums. Actually, I did get two albums of theirs from Amazon but only because I couldn't find them any cheaper. Blotted Science on the other hand, I've found their album for £10.

Why even mention Manilla Road then? You make no sense, bro!

And I thought you didn't find it anywhere for cheaper than £17, and now you are saying you find it for only £10?

At 7/2/11 02:31 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: And I thought you didn't find it anywhere for cheaper than £17, and now you are saying you find it for only £10?

I should have clearly mentioned that I bought the CD from a third party Amazon seller and not Amazon themselves. HUGE difference there.

I've been delaying this for too long...
Metal-ABC: Hollenthon.

Another band from Austria. :o

Someone from the Metal Hell mentionned the band UFO a few months ago, saying everybody in the Metal Hell should listen to it, as it was a kind of Proto Metal band. So I got the album Phenomenon by them and I'm impressed :) It's a great album, and 70's rock never sounded so good to me.

Great band, I really support the idea that everybody in here should listen to their stuff :)

UFO - Crystal Light

At 7/1/11 05:22 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I listenned to it, and I'm kind of happy of their sound. It's just one track... of course, but I think we can hope for a good album at least, if not a great album :)

I really like the new song, actually.

Post-Rock really is sneaking into Metal nowadays. Not that it's bad, but it's true that some bands should really stick to their original sound.

I think it's been a good thing so far. There's lots of post-rocky metal that I think sounds good, like Maudlin of the Well, Isis, Pelican, etc.

And, of course, Agalloch.

Good band. But they just tend to sweep and wank just a little too much on that album. The first three or four tracks of the album are awesome though. I'd say the rest of the album is not quite as memorable as these few tracks, except for the track A Common Hope :)

So what would you say is their best album?

At 7/1/11 06:16 PM, AniMetal wrote: Kevin Moore and John Myung ARE Dream Theater.

So with Moore out of the band, and with "In The Name Of God" being the last song Myung ever wrote with the band... basically they suck now.

And the fact James LaBrie's vocals really went down the shitter doesn't help matters any.

I do find LaBrie annoying sometimes, the worst examples sticking out in my mind being on Train of Thought. And they were so much better years ago, but I do think they still made some good music later on, including this recent track they released. I haven't heard Black Clouds and Silver Linings, though, and Systematic Chaos was disappointing, that is, from what I even remember from that album. I don't think I even listened to the whole thing more than once. Although they're not as good as Images and Words or Awake or a Change of Seasons, I still think Scenes From a Memory and Octavarium are great albums, and Train of Thought is pretty good, especially As I Am and Stream of Consciousness.

What I'd rather hear than a new Dream Theater album now, though, is either a new Liquid Tension Experiment album or a new project with Mike Portnoy, John Petrucci, and John Myung...without James LaBrie, and either with or without Jordan Rudess. I wouldn't care that much either way.

At 7/2/11 04:54 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: I really like the new song, actually.

Same here.

I think it's been a good thing so far. There's lots of post-rocky metal that I think sounds good, like Maudlin of the Well, Isis, Pelican, etc.

And, of course, Agalloch.

Seing how well these few bands are doing, I really can't say I'm against the idea of mixing Post-Rock elements with Metal.

So what would you say is their best album?

I'm not a huge fan of Gorod but I think they make pretty good Death Metal, they just tend to wank sometimes. It's not making the whole record bad in anyway though... They don't sweep like scene kids on cocaine, they have good song-writting no matter how technical their music is. My personnal favorite is Process Of A New Decline, the one album we were discussing. The four first tracks are great, but the others are all ranging from decent to good. There isn't anything about this record that should make you not want to listen to it. Maybe you could listen to the album Neurotripsicks two.

I do find LaBrie annoying sometimes, the worst examples sticking out in my mind being on Train of Thought. And they were so much better years ago, but I do think they still made some good music later on, including this recent track they released. I haven't heard Black Clouds and Silver Linings, though, and Systematic Chaos was disappointing, that is, from what I even remember from that album. I don't think I even listened to the whole thing more than once. Although they're not as good as Images and Words or Awake or a Change of Seasons, I still think Scenes From a Memory and Octavarium are great albums, and Train of Thought is pretty good, especially As I Am and Stream of Consciousness.

You guys keep comparing the newer stuff to their best albums, which are also some of the best Metal albums ever released. I don't think their most recent stuff. Black Clouds and Silver Linings was kind of better than Systematic Chaos. Which is... a dissapointing album, yes... but it as a few good tracks. The new song makes me hope for a good or a decent album at least.

What I'd rather hear than a new Dream Theater album now, though, is either a new Liquid Tension Experiment album or a new project with Mike Portnoy, John Petrucci, and John Myung...without James LaBrie, and either with or without Jordan Rudess. I wouldn't care that much either way.

They said they would not make any other Liquid Tension Experiment material because most of the members of LTE ended up playing in Dream Theater two. The only exception was Tony Levin. Even though I don't think we will ever see another LTE album getting released, it would be awesome to get one.

And about Mike Portnoy... I don't think he's ever going to come back... or play with these guys...

Gorod - Programmers Of Decline

The most I ever spent on CDs was 50 bucks on the Alice In Chains boxset which is actually four or five of their albums.

At 7/2/11 03:19 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Someone from the Metal Hell mentionned the band UFO a few months ago, saying everybody in the Metal Hell should listen to it, as it was a kind of Proto Metal band. So I got the album Phenomenon by them and I'm impressed :) It's a great album, and 70's rock never sounded so good to me.

Great band, I really support the idea that everybody in here should listen to their stuff :)

Yeah. And you said, "Just because a band is before others, doesn't necessarily mean they're worth listening to," or something to that effect. I remember that.

As the person who recommended them, check out the album Lights Out and No heavy Petting. Both are masterpieces. Force It is amazing as well.

At 7/2/11 07:21 PM, AniMetal wrote: Yeah. And you said, "Just because a band is before others, doesn't necessarily mean they're worth listening to," or something to that effect. I remember that.

No. The guy who mentionned them said everybody who didn't know about them didn't have their place in the Metal Hell. So even if I'm happy the band was mentionned, I said "It's not because they influenced the first metal bands that you are a "fake" metalhead for not listenning to them."

Thanks Ani, I like how you always have to try and make me look like shit :)

At 7/2/11 07:28 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: No. The guy who mentionned them said everybody who didn't know about them didn't have their place in the Metal Hell. So even if I'm happy the band was mentionned, I said "It's not because they influenced the first metal bands that you are a "fake" metalhead for not listenning to them."

Oh, I never said that part. Maybe multiple UFO conversations happened.

But I do think metalheads should at least KNOW about UFO, since they were Iron Maiden's biggest influence along with countless other bands...

Thanks Ani, I like how you always have to try and make me look like shit :)

lol wut? Yeah boy, i'm personally attacking you. Because that's what I like to do on my days off from work. ;D

FFFFFFFFUUUU!!!!! I might as well be working in a giants forge!!!!
94 outside with ungodly humidity =120 degrees inside an already scorching factory for 12 hours a day!!!!!! YOU WANT A METAL JOB THIS IS A METAL JOB AND I HATE IT!!! I wasn't even in the foundry +50 degrees of molten metals.

discription of my fucking day

I been getting fucked all day.

At 7/2/11 03:19 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Someone from the Metal Hell mentionned the band UFO a few months ago, saying everybody in the Metal Hell should listen to it, as it was a kind of Proto Metal band. So I got the album Phenomenon by them and I'm impressed :) It's a great album, and 70's rock never sounded so good to me.

Dammit, that's another album I should have asked for my birthday. Why is it as soon as I send off the albums I want for my birthday I end up finding other stuff that I want?

Manilla Road for Metal Monday this week!

Plugging this since it's similar to what Zodir is doing to all their albums and I'm sure he'll take some interest in this. Not only that, it's been awfully quiet here.

Anyone listen to Xerath? I got their song Reform Part III on a Terrorizer CD a while back and really dug it.

Orchestral/Progressive/Groove Metal says the video, whatever it's some delicious metal. I've heard good things about their album II as well, I need to get it at some point.

At 7/3/11 11:36 AM, Bahamut wrote: Dammit, that's another album I should have asked for my birthday. Why is it as soon as I send off the albums I want for my birthday I end up finding other stuff that I want?

Don't you have a job? :P It would really be helpful if you want to buy all these records.

UFO - Crystal Light

At 7/4/11 06:12 PM, batman64 wrote: Now smeagol boy brings up a good point..he mentioned a jr horseman like program..
couple ways we could do this if you guys want to
we can have votes for the squires..democratic way
or the Horseman can just choose their squires..each one just pick who they want as squire
or we can just forget it and leave it the way it is

Sounds like some kind of class system, you trying ta keep the working man down?

Fuq da poliec

At 7/4/11 06:12 PM, batman64 wrote: Duff is a Horseman because he was voted into that position...and I recommended him.
The man loves Metal and it shows. He loves what he does and backs up his love with reasons why.
And if he dislikes something he also backs that up with reasons why also.
The man stands by his opinion and word and does his best to back up what he says with facts and/or opinions...and he does not back down. I find these to be good traits myself.
For the most part he has been a fine Horseman and does his duties well.

:')

I'm happy that you still support me. If you really perceive me that way, than I can honestly say that I've been E-touched by all this love shown by the Grandfather of the Metal Hell :)

Our duties are quite simple..to welcome new members and reject those who don't fit.
To maintain a semblance of order by ending fights quickly and keeping the discussions on track
And basically help keep this club running the way Goat wanted it..a club for metal lovers about metal

Hail!

We are not here to start fights, or impose some kind of higher rule..basically we are watchers who ride in as needed...I was one of the first...plan on being one a while yet.

:(

Now smeagol boy brings up a good point..he mentioned a jr horseman like program..
Some of you may recall a while back I had a squire, Sam
She was basically put in a position whereas she could act like a Horseman if none were around, and she was to be my replacement when I stepped down. real life shit all over that deal and it never really happened as planned...but it is kinda a good idea
couple ways we could do this if you guys want to
we can have votes for the squires..democratic way
or the Horseman can just choose their squires..each one just pick who they want as squire
or we can just forget it and leave it the way it is
choices..we all got em and make em
leave it up to you guys...it's your club too

If we were to have 4 squires, than I think they should be nominated by the Horsemen themselves. Each Horseman would pick one. If the other Horsemen and the regulars approove of this idea, then I think we could do this.

One question though... Don't you think that we would have too many people to do the same job, especially considering that we don't have a lot of regular members or users asking to join the club?

as always,
Keep it Heavy
Peace

Stay Brutal !!!

Bill should be the horsemen Death, As he's the oldest here. So I just rage quit General I will mostly only linger here from now on. Oh yeah!! I bought a fully horned ram skull from this guy at my county fair and tomorrow he's selling me a full bear skull for $40 dollars and showing me this woods near me where I can find arrow heads. I plan on learning more from the local native tribes around here about they're old ways.

I feel so happy. :D

At 7/4/11 11:23 PM, J-Cobyz wrote: Oh, wow! Thanks! I dont have a speech, so sorry huh, :) hey, if anyone reads this, can anybody reccomend me some thrash and some Melodic death? I really like those genres, and im a little tired of hearing of the same bands.

Looking at your first post I can easily tell you that you probably listen to more Thrash Metal then me, but I'm pretty sure I can fill some gaps here and there. I'll try to avoid naming the bands you already mentionned in your first post...

So for Thrash Metal...

- I suggest you listen to the Demo albums of the band Cynic. They started as a Death Thrash band, I'm pretty sure that you will enjoy this. If you feel adventurous, listen to the album Focus by the same band. It's a masterpiece :) Not Thrash Metal, but still a masterpiece :)

- I will mention the band Evile, even if AniMetal think they are shit, I think that as a Thrash Metal fan, you should listen to it and make your own opinion.

- I suggest you listen to the album Damned In Black by the Norwegian band Immortal. This is a Black Metal band... but this album could arguably be describded as a Blackened Thrash Metal album. Not sure if you will enjoy this, but I still think it's worth mentionning it.

- Try the one and only album released by all female american thrash metal band Meanstreak. This album is great, and if you enjoy 80's Thrash Metal, you might enjoy this a lot!

- Morbid Saint, is definitely one of the greatest Thrash Metal band I've heard in my life. Their only Full Lenght album Spectrum Of Death is a TM masterpiece !!! It's raw, agressive, straight to the point Thrash Metal!

- Last but not least, the Progressive/Technical Thrash Metal band... Watchtower. This is also a great Thrash Metal band, my favorite album by them is Energetic Disassembly. This one album, I highly recommand to any Thrash Metal fan :)

Now let's do this with Melodic Death Metal bands... I will name just a few, because I know a lot of Melodeath as it was one of my favorite genres when I first started to listen to Metal.

- Kalmah is and will forever be my all time favorite Melodic Death Metal band. Raw and powerful riffs. strong guitarists duo. Great keyboard lines, and a sound that evolves throughout the years. I'm pretty sure that there will be at least one album by them that will suit your taste :)

- Nightrage. Powerful and heavy Melodic Death Metal band. This one band has had a lot of different vocalists join their ranks and leave after recording only one album. In my opinion their three first Full Lenght albums were awesome !!! Sweet Vengeance, Descent into Chaos and A New Disease Is Born are all excellent Melodic Death Metal albums. Tomas Lindberg was my favorite vocalist, but sadly, he left after the recording of Descent into Chaos.

- Then comes the Technical Melodic Death Metal band, Arsis. Very melodic song-writting along with some technical riffs. Pretty cool band I guess :P

- Darkane is a band that I simply couldn't just avoid mentionning. I will just finish with this one, and if you enjoy any of the bands I've listed, then just tell me and I'll recommand a few more. There is a reason why I decided to finish with Darkane, and it's because they play... Melodic Death/Thrash Metal. You asked for Melodeath bands and Thrash Metal bands... here is one that plays an hybrid genre that mixes both :)

Have fun, and welcome to the Metal Hell again :)

Symphony X - The Odyssey (and I've been listenning to this track during all the time it took my to write this post... damn! :P)