So Relapse Records are releasing another Death remaster, this time it's the album Human. I might buy it just to own one of my favourite Death albums.

I also can't stop listening to The Ocean - Precambrian. One of the best metal albums I've heard in a while.

At 6/10/11 11:31 AM, ToastedCupcake wrote: Within The Ruins
All Shall Perish
Veil of Maya
Born of Osiris
After The Burial
Texas In July

I was all up and ready to say not metal but it turns out Metal Archives has them all listed apart from Texas in July. They're even tagged as metalcore and deathcore, when the hell did they change their policy?

At 6/10/11 01:13 PM, SomaGuye wrote:

At 6/10/11 11:31 AM, ToastedCupcake wrote:

I was all up and ready to say not metal but it turns out Metal Archives has them all listed apart from Texas in July. They're even tagged as metalcore and deathcore, when the hell did they change their policy?

Because metalcore and deathcore are metal as long as the metal elements are prominent enough.

At 6/10/11 11:31 AM, ToastedCupcake wrote: Within The Ruins
All Shall Perish
Veil of Maya
Bongzilla
Animals As Leaders (not completely metal, but definitely some aspects)
Born of Osiris
Kalmah
Wintersun
After The Burial
Texas In July

It's funny how you take the time to mention that Animals As Leaders is not "completely metal", but that you simply make no mention of the fact that most of your list is deathcore... so not metal...

Veil Of Maya, Born Of Osiris, All Shall Perish, After The Burial, Texas In July and Within The Ruins do not qualify as metal bands, So you basically have 4 metal bands on your list.

If you are still interrested in joinning the Metal Hell, I could still give you some recommandations based on the few bands you have listed, though.

At 6/10/11 04:10 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: So you basically have 4 metal bands on your list.

Is deathcore not a subgenre of metal?

I named my favorite bands, being the ones I listened to most. I also listen to In Flames, Mors Principium Est, a little bit of Norther, The Acacia Strain, At The Gates, The Contortionist...but that's why I want recommendations, so I can widen my view.

At 6/10/11 04:36 PM, ToastedCupcake wrote:

At 6/10/11 04:10 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: So you basically have 4 metal bands on your list.

Is deathcore not a subgenre of metal?

No, actually. If you dig deeper in metal, you will find out they are completely different. Most Metal fans can't stand "core" bands. Deathcore and Metalcore sometimes share elements with Melodic Death Metal bands. But almost every other metal genres have nothing to do with deathcore and metalcore.

I named my favorite bands, being the ones I listened to most. I also listen to In Flames, Mors Principium Est, a little bit of Norther, The Acacia Strain, At The Gates, The Contortionist...but that's why I want recommendations, so I can widen my view.

In Flames are a Melodic Death Metal band, who lately... started to record shitty Metalcore and Nu-Metal influenced Melodeath. Mors Principium Est and Norther are Melodic Death Metal bands. At The Gates are a melodic death metal band... but also the biggest fucking influence of metalcore bands. The Acacia Strain and The Contortionist are core bands, so not metal.

You have enough metal bands listed there to join the Metal Hell. If you are interrested in joinning, then I shall welcome you to The Metal Hell.

Now for recommandations...

You said you like Bongzilla... Because you like them, I suggest you listen to ISIS, Dystopia, Mastodon, Boris (their Stoner Rock/Metal work, maybe not their Drone stuff), Electric Wizard (get the album Dopethrone, it's one of my all time favorites), High On Fire. And maybe... Om and Sleep...

You also said you liked Kalmah and Wintersun... Soooo I suggest you give a listen to some other Melodic Death Metal bands like Arch Enemy, Arsis, Children Of Bodom, Darkane, Ensiferum, NIGHTRAGE !!!!, Scar Symmetry and maybe Soilwork.

And em, if you like early In Flames, listen to Dark Tranquillity, it's great :)

Bongripper - Worship

At 6/10/11 04:59 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: In Flames are a Melodic Death Metal band, who lately... started to record shitty Metalcore and Nu-Metal influenced Melodeath

Agreed. Their new stuff is terrible, the only album I have right now is Jester Race, but I've heard some other albums like Whoracle.

Electric Wizard (get the album Dopethrone, it's one of my all time favorites),

I have this album, I just didn't mention it because it's lost on my computer somewhere and I never had a chance to listen to much of it.

High On Fire, Sleep...

As far as this goes, I haven't listened to much High on Fire, but I know I loved Matt Pike when he was in Sleep, so I'm sure I would like High on Fire as well. I've listened to a few of the melodeath bands you mentioned, I'll have to check the others out. Thanks.

Just for the records, I don't hate on all metalcore. I'm actually quite a big fan of a few different core bands. So don't think I hate them all.

At 6/10/11 10:15 AM, ToastedCupcake wrote:
That's not bull shit. Anyone in here who's been playing guitar for at least a year knows how damn simple ALL of Amon Amarth's music is. They tune their guitars to Drop B to sound extra heavy, and play simple power chord riffs with incredibly slow tremolo picking fills that even a five year old could play.

Not to mention all of their songs sound the same.

Well thats just your opinion which really doesn't matter to me. Amon Amarth is awesome.

At 6/10/11 09:13 PM, Anti-pie wrote:

At 6/10/11 10:15 AM, ToastedCupcake wrote:
That's not bull shit. Anyone in here who's been playing guitar for at least a year knows how damn simple ALL of Amon Amarth's music is. They tune their guitars to Drop B to sound extra heavy, and play simple power chord riffs with incredibly slow tremolo picking fills that even a five year old could play.

Not to mention all of their songs sound the same.

Well thats just your opinion which really doesn't matter to me. Amon Amarth is awesome.

No... I'm just so tired to ear such things! They tune their guitars to Drop B = FACT. The play stimple power chord riffs = FACT. Slow tremolo picking fills = FACT.

So no, it's not opinions, it's FACTS !!! Then you can like them or not, that's what we call OPINION. Damn!

At 6/10/11 12:43 PM, Zodir wrote: Sorry I haven't been around lately guys. Been having PC trouble for a while now. First, I have another entry into my discog review of Manilla Road, Out of the Abyss. As always, CC welcome!

Now this is a review I can relate to. Out of the Abyss is one of my least favourites from them but at least I enjoy a few tracks. As for the next album The Courts of Chaos, it's a hell lot better so I'm looking forward to that review.

At 6/10/11 01:48 PM, DeIirium wrote: Because metalcore and deathcore are metal as long as the metal elements are prominent enough.

That's actually true. MA will allow metalcore and deathcore bands as long as they stay more in the metal side than the core side. The only problem with that is the lack of consistency with those policies.

At 6/10/11 09:13 PM, Anti-pie wrote: Well thats just your opinion which really doesn't matter to me. Amon Amarth is awesome.

I will throw in my thoughts on Amon Amarth in the ring. They're not one of my favourites but they can still write good songs. I've enjoyed Twilight of the Thunder God reasonably well. There is a song or two I really like from the latest album, especially Töck's Taunt: Loke's Treachery Part II.

I still like Amon Amarth, and I enjoy some of their music, but they don't deserve the hype they get because they really aren't that talented at what they do. They're the type of band that would get played on the radio and kids would say "WOAH MAN SO HEAVY THIS IS THE BEST MUSIC EVER."

Oh my gods I found a funny article! Norway to train diplomats in tr00 Norwegian Black Metal!!!

At 6/11/11 01:19 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: No... I'm just so tired to ear such things! They tune their guitars to Drop B = FACT. The play stimple power chord riffs = FACT. Slow tremolo picking fills = FACT.

So no, it's not opinions, it's FACTS !!! Then you can like them or not, that's what we call OPINION. Damn!

Ughh...... I MEANT!!!!!!! That it is your opinion that you don't like them. For simple guitar playing it sounds fucking awesome. OPINION!!!!!!!

So I finally got around to listening to Ripper Owens era of Judas Priest and personally I find these albums very dull. Although Owens' vocals are overall poor, that's not the main issue with these albums. There are some good ideas within these two albums but it doesn't seem focused that well. Too many forgettable tracks around here.

At 6/11/11 01:31 PM, smeagol1 wrote: Oh my gods I found a funny article! Norway to train diplomats in tr00 Norwegian Black Metal!!!

I can't help but think making a course like this in Norway will only make it hard to take them seriously. Still a funny article, though.

Recently found this progressive thrash band called Vektor. They're pretty cool. Suggest checking them out.

At 6/12/11 04:19 PM, Zodir wrote: Recently found this progressive thrash band called Vektor. They're pretty cool. Suggest checking them out.

I heard about these guys ages ago. I quite like the song Forests of Legend.

At 6/9/11 07:14 AM, Bahamut wrote:

At 6/8/11 07:27 AM, Haggard wrote: Tomorrow I'm off to the Rock Hard Festival. YAY! I'm going to see Bullet and Iced fucking Earth! :D

Just Bullet, yes? Anyway, enjoy your time!

Well, I didn't see Bullet, but I saw Epica who played just before Bullet. Epica was nice (the programme said they have "epical intensity" lol), but Iced Earth was FUCKING AWESOME!
It rained heavily during half of the set (the rain started when they played a song from "Night of the Stormrider". The stage and part of the amphitheater in Gelsenkirchen are roofed, but I was standing in the very first row without roof. I was wearing a raincoat, but my legs and my shoes got soaked nevertheless and by the time I fought my way under the roof it didn't matter anymore...
Oh well, the show was awesome nevertheless.

News post will follow. ^^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeZlih4DD Ng&feature=player_embedded, ever heard of him?

Queens of The Stone Age - No one knows

At 6/13/11 12:50 PM, Rummy0 wrote:

At 6/10/11 11:31 AM, ToastedCupcake wrote: Within The Ruins
All Shall Perish
Veil of Maya
Born of Osiris
After The Burial
Texas In July
I listen to a lot of deathcore/progressive stuff, I need some recommendations.

Yeah we don't consider deathcore as metal

cause it fucking sucks.

But if you want some good recomendations I suggest asking the NG Nu-metal/Metalcore crew.

If I wanted more recommendations for deathcore/metalcore, maybe I would. That's why I came here and asked for recommendations, to broaden what I listen to.

Wrote up a quick review of Vektor's Black Future. Any fans of thrash should check it out, and as always, CC welcome!

So, Seth Putnam died.

At 6/13/11 06:48 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: So, Seth Putnam died.

Meh.

So I finally got into Between the Buried and Me. Fucking sick. I particularly like Alaska and The Great Misdirect.
Also, what's the consensus on Death Angel? I find that I don't really like a lot of their stuff but then they have a few songs that are super dope. For example, "No" off The Art of Dying and "Truce" off Relentless Retribution.
Also also, for anyone that likes dark rap, check out Tyler, The Creator's album Goblin. That shit is intense.
Word.

I want more Black Metal but I don't know where to start

I already listen to Rotting Christ and Watain but I don't really know where else to look since most of the other black metal i've listened to doesn't seem to match it.

At 6/13/11 11:35 PM, hypersomniax wrote: Also also, for anyone that likes dark rap, check out Tyler, The Creator's album Goblin. That shit is intense.
Word.

Golf Wang. I fucking love Odd Future.

Anyway, I'm posting again just to reiterate that I'm alive. I've been listening to Red Fang, Bison BC, Isis, Black Tusk, and Doomriders recently. Gotta love that stoner/hardcore combo.

At 6/13/11 11:35 PM, hypersomniax wrote: So I finally got into Between the Buried and Me. Fucking sick. I particularly like Alaska and The Great Misdirect.

Even though I hate their vocalist and some of their riffs are too metalcoreish for me to enjoy, they're overall great. Seen them four times, actually. haha

Also, what's the consensus on Death Angel? I find that I don't really like a lot of their stuff but then they have a few songs that are super dope. For example, "No" off The Art of Dying and "Truce" off Relentless Retribution.

Ultra Violence, while a very acclaimed and their most popular album, I don't actually like too much. It's a good album, but at times it feels very generic and uninspired compared to other 80's thrash albums. That being said, it's still pretty kickass - especially the title track. The vocals are a bit hard to listen to though, because the vocalist sounds like he's ripping out his vocal chords in the studio. haha

Frolic Through The Park is pretty great also, but I haven't listened to it too much yet.

Act III is easily their best album, it's a thrash masterpiece in my opinion even if not all the songs are straight up thrash.

The Art Of Dying is really shittie and boring retro thrash, I couldn't even enjoy a single track on it. I haven't listened to RR or Killing Season nor do I plan on it.

Death Angel are really kickass live though.

At 6/12/11 04:19 PM, Zodir wrote: Recently found this progressive thrash band called Vektor. They're pretty cool. Suggest checking them out.

Pretty awesome band. They're probably the best 00's thrash metal band i've heard, and i've heard a lot.

At 6/12/11 08:56 AM, Bahamut wrote: Although Owens' vocals are overall poor,

I hope you slip and land on a cock.

Ripper Owens is one of my all time favorite vocalists. Haha

Fucking Priest and Iced Earth, writing their blandest music when they had their best singer. :'(

At 6/10/11 09:13 PM, Anti-pie wrote: Well thats just your opinion which really doesn't matter to me. Amon Amarth is awesome.

It isn't "just his opinion" it's the opinion of the whole club more or less, or at least of the members that matter.

At 6/10/11 11:31 AM, ToastedCupcake wrote: Within The Ruins
All Shall Perish
Veil of Maya
Bongzilla
Animals As Leaders (not completely metal, but definitely some aspects)
Born of Osiris
Kalmah
Wintersun
After The Burial
Texas In July

I listen to a lot of deathcore/progressive stuff, I need some recommendations.

I don't know if I hate you, or like you. On one hand, AAL / Bongzilla / Kalmah / Wintersun are all amazing, on the other the rest of that list isn't metal and is totally mediocre. haha

I recommend Scale The Summit if you like AAL. They're like AAL, but not anywhere nearly as technical. They're way more emotional though, and I actually like them more because of that.

Swallow The Sun and Insomnium I both recommend since you like Kalmah, Norther and In Flames.

I also recommend Last Chance To Reason. Their first album is deathcore, which I don't really like at all, but their second album is amazing progressive metal. (heavenduff, check these guys out - I get the feeling you'll love their second album)

At 6/10/11 04:59 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: In Flames are a Melodic Death Metal band, who lately... started to record shitty Metalcore and Nu-Metal influenced Melodeath.

Says you, I think CC is a great album. (I don't like their other post-2000 albums though)

At 6/13/11 01:49 PM, ToastedCupcake wrote: If I wanted more recommendations for deathcore/metalcore, maybe I would. That's why I came here and asked for recommendations, to broaden what I listen to.

Well, I'll work on the Progressive Metal part then.

I recommand...

Dream Theater
Blotted Science
Death (the album The Sound Of Perseverance is a prog death album)
Jacobs Dream
Liquid Tension Experiment
Aghora
Cynic
Spastic Ink
Symphony X
Watchtower

so the previously listed bands are all "sort of" progressive, but from different metal genres and sub-genres.

I'll also just leave this here... because grindcore is fucking badass

Benighted - Let The Blood Spill between My Broken Teeth
Benighted - Grind Wit

SYL for this week's choice of Metal Monday!

At 6/13/11 06:18 PM, Zodir wrote: Wrote up a quick review of Vektor's Black Future. Any fans of thrash should check it out, and as always, CC welcome!

I'll give them a shot.

At 6/13/11 06:48 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: So, Seth Putnam died.

I like it when he dies. Seriously, though, it sucks that he left us but considering his history of alcohol and drugs, he should have been more careful.

At 6/14/11 01:09 AM, AniMetal wrote: Fucking Priest and Iced Earth, writing their blandest music when they had their best singer. :'(

Hey, I did mostly blame the lazy writing on those songs rather than having Ripper Owens on them. Something Wicked Part 2 showed that having the more preferable vocalist for the fans does not make good album.

Rock Hard Festival 2011
So I finally wrote a quick review for the festival. I also added a picture of me. ;)