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Response to Metal Hell 2011-05-19 16:44:26


At 5/19/11 04:32 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: Yeah, and buy a 7-string guitar just to chug on a lower tuning is plain stupid when you can just detune a 6-string guitar to a lower tuning with thicker strings.

They don't just chug. They sweep a lot also :P Fills all the free space they could use for riffs :)

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Response to Metal Hell 2011-05-20 01:25:32


At 5/19/11 04:14 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I'm not a big Power Metal fan myself, but these guys are absolutely amazing, and I think this one album is a gem.

I thought you were a big fan of power metal.

Maybe you'll be surprised, but I never got into Blind Guardian. I don't have any of their work in my iTunes Library and I don't think that I've listenned to more then 10 songs by them in my entire life.

All I can say is you're missing out on quite a bit.

Response to Metal Hell 2011-05-20 04:45:30


First of all, don't be thrown off by my level 1 user icon, I'm still Xarnor, just had my account reset basically.

Anyways, I just wrote an excellent, multiple paragraph (at least 6 paragraphs, maybe more), descriptive, fairly objective review for Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia on MA. Seeing as how it's my favorite Dimmu album as well as one of my most favorite albums ever, I wanted to put in a good word for it and say all the things that needed to be said about it that hadn't been said yet.

I click the Submit button, and it turns out MA had logged me out for some reason, and my whole review is gone. It's my own fault for not saving the damn thing, but FFFUUUUUCKKKK, this really sucks. Eventually I'll probably end up writing it again, but redoing the same work twice never works as well as it did the first time..


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-05-20 07:30:04


At 5/19/11 04:32 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: Yeah, and buy a 7-string guitar just to chug on a lower tuning is plain stupid when you can just detune a 6-string guitar to a lower tuning with thicker strings.

Not always possible, especially if you go down into the next octave below A. Not without having strings as floppy as a donkeys ballsack anyway.

Response to Metal Hell 2011-05-20 08:01:47


At 5/19/11 03:26 AM, Bahamut wrote: I can see where you're coming from here but even so, both Keepers albums are undoubtedly power metal.

Mih, I would beg to differ.

In my opinion:
Walls Of Jericho = Undoubtedly thrash metal.

Both keeper albums = Traditional metal with power metal elements, but not really power metal. At most, it's protopower metal and even that is pushing the envelope.

Everything with Andi Deris = Hard rock with metal guitar solos and metal drumming, but that's pretty much it. I don't see why anyone would call deris era helloween power metal, or metal at all...

So pretty much, while Helloween is commonly regarded as power metal, I never once saw them as power metal. That being said, they practically inspired every power metal band ever. haha

Speaking of which, if ANYONE here doesn't own the first three helloween albums then you REALLY need to check them out. They're all brilliant, and even if you don't like them much, they're pretty important stamps on metal and worth at least knowing.

At 5/19/11 04:14 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I didn't say that they were a good introduction to Power Metal or that they could easily fit metalhead's tastes in general. I'm just expressing my opinion on this piece of gold that is Winterheart's Guild.

Most REAL power metal fans either hate Sonata Arctica or only like their older stuff and admit to it as being a guilty pleasure.

That being said, Sonata Arctica is a band that is both a good turn off and a good turn on for a power metal introduction. Let me explain:

To someone who listens to little-to-no metal and/or doesn't actually play any instruments, Sonata Arctica's first four(Five including the jap. only album) albums are genius and the next thing you know they'll be listening to stratovarius, nightwish and rhapsody.

BUT to someone who listens to a lot of metal, and I mean like tons of thrash or black or something, or someone who DOES in fact play an instrument - when they hear any sonata arctica they are likely to totally hate sonata arctica and be turned off of power metal for a long time.

So yeah, when introducing someone to power metal be sure to keep that in mind before recommending sonata arctica. (That's to everyone)

I'm not a big Power Metal fan myself, but these guys are absolutely amazing, and I think this one album is a gem.

Check out Silence, as both a big power metal fan and a former SA fanboy I think that's easily their best.


Maybe you'll be surprised, but I never got into Blind Guardian. I don't have any of their work in my iTunes Library and I don't think that I've listened to more then 10 songs by them in my entire life.

Here's a short rundown of each album and with a link of my favorite song off each. (Keep in mind, blind guardian is my favorite band) Read the rundowns, listen to the songs, and download one or two of the albums you think you'll enjoy the most. :)

Battalions Of Fear (1988)
Total thrash metal, or "speed metal" as some would call it. If you like exodus-esque guitar solos, almost screaming vocals and the urge to mosh and headbang - check this one out. The power metal elements on this album are almost nonexistent.

Follow The Blind (1989)
This album is still thrash metal, or "speed metal", but this album has way more traditional metal esque moments. Like galloping riffs, epic chorus's and lyrics you'd expect from a band like Iron Maiden or Raven. But it is still quite thrashtastic, especially as seen by the borderline gang vocals, the balls-to-the-wall drumming and more exodus-esque guitar solos. Also some power metal elements begin showing up, like some riffs that totally sound like they belong on a Rhapsody or Cryonic Temple album. Kai Hansen also has a guest appearance and sings in "Valhalla."

Tales From The Twilight World (1990)
Okay so this album continues the path Follow The Blind started taking, with even more traditional metal esque moments. HOWEVER, this album still has quite a bit of thrash still in it. The power metal elements don't TRULY start showing up until this album though, as in more sing along lyrics, more fantasy esque lyrics in general, and slower but more melodic drumming. Kai Hansen guest appears again and does vocals on "Lost In The Twilight Hall" and a guitar solo on the song I posted, "The Last Candle."

Somewhere Far Beyond (1992)
Some people would say that this is the first "real" blind guardian album since this is the first album where it is, indubitably, blind guardian. This album is really the first i'd consider the power metal elements more prominent then the traditional or thrash ones. The songs are epic to listen to, the lyrics are continuously getting more fantasy influenced and imaginative, the guitar solos are unmistakenably a cross between typical pm and typical tm guitar solos and the bard's song is probably the most famous power metal ballad ever recorded. While power metal, their are still enough thrash metal elements in this to make most of this album still moshable. Their are actually some early folk metal elements in this as well, mainly because of the lyrics and the guest bagpipes some of the songs had. haha Kai Hansen guest appears yet again, he does a guitar solo on "The Quest for Tanelorn."

Imaginations from the Other Side (1995)
This album was EASILY the hardest to pick a favorite song for, as every song on it is a classic tune. This is the only blind guardian album I recommend to ALL metal fans, whether it be of power metal, thrash metal or traditional metal. Sadly this album is the last album where the thrash metal roots really pierce through. I can't really describe this album, it's just... perfect. I don't even know if the song I linked is my favorite blind guardian song or not, however it was my very first blind guardian song ever so it has a special connection with me. :P

Nightfall In Middle Earth (1998)
The most successful, the most popular and easily the most critically acclaimed album: Nightfall is considered a masterpiece by most power metal fans. The epic chrous's, the entirely LOTR based lyrics and nonstop amazing guitar riffing/soloing makes most people jizz at this album. While this is the first album where you can't really hear thrash influences, this might be their most aggressive sounding album - but maybe that's because of Hansi's vocals getting heavier. Now be warned, half of the tracks are short, song interludes that really break up the songs and are meant to further the effect of the lyrics. This may or may not be a good thing, if you go to the bathroom a lot or really enjoy LOTR you might just like them. Sadly, despite everyone loving this album it's far from my favorite BG album. This album also has the ONLY Blind Gurdian song I dislike: "Nightfall."

A Night At The Opera (2002)
Epic. The only word that fully describes this album. Precious Jerusalem and Age of False Innocence aside, this album is nonstop amazing. If you are a guitar fanatic or enjoy ballsie power metal with prog elements, this album is for you. Also this album is my favorite when it comes to vocals.

A Twist In The Myth (2006)
Most peoples least favorite BG album. Basically imagine a 00's album you'd expect from a 80's band like Iron Maiden or Judas Priest and you got this album. But way more cheesy. Not bad by any means, just not special.

At The Edge Of Time (2010)
Ive listened to this album four times, Bahamut review this one. haha Lots of prog elements though, it's epic.


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-05-20 12:16:57


At 5/20/11 04:45 AM, Xarnor wrote: I click the Submit button, and it turns out MA had logged me out for some reason, and my whole review is gone. It's my own fault for not saving the damn thing, but FFFUUUUUCKKKK, this really sucks. Eventually I'll probably end up writing it again, but redoing the same work twice never works as well as it did the first time..

This is why you should ALWAYS write up reviews, rants or whatever on a word document. Never fucking ever write it all up on an internet post box.

At 5/20/11 08:01 AM, AniMetal wrote: Everything with Andi Deris = Hard rock with metal guitar solos and metal drumming, but that's pretty much it. I don't see why anyone would call deris era helloween power metal, or metal at all...

Funny, I could provide more than enough Deris-era Helloween songs that are metal. I've listened to them that many times and have just about every song they've recorded. Hell, I could just say all of The Dark Ride, Gambling with the Devil and 7 Sinners right here and that's all I need to say. You have listened to those albums, right? Riiiiiight?

So pretty much, while Helloween is commonly regarded as power metal, I never once saw them as power metal. That being said, they practically inspired every power metal band ever. haha

Or maybe they're just different to the rest of the power metal bands and have a distinctive style. Even if they're not power metal, at least they take a different path and not be some generic Stratovarius clone. That's not saying every power metal IS a generic Stratovarious clone, however.

Speaking of which, if ANYONE here doesn't own the first three helloween albums then you REALLY need to check them out. They're all brilliant, and even if you don't like them much, they're pretty important stamps on metal and worth at least knowing.

Now this we can easily agree on.

At The Edge Of Time (2010)
Ive listened to this album four times, Bahamut review this one. haha Lots of prog elements though, it's epic.

I can easily fill this one in for you. This one I've heard many times and is easily my top pick for 2010, although Ghost's Opus Enonymous might top it eventually. I feel At the Edge of TIme is the most dynamic Blind Guardian album to date. You have some thrashy tracks, you have orchestral numbers, you have piano ballads and you have proggy songs. There's a great variety of tracks in this album so there's something for every Blind Guardian fan.

Response to Metal Hell 2011-05-20 12:27:32


At 5/20/11 12:16 PM, Bahamut wrote: Funny, I could provide more than enough Deris-era Helloween songs that are metal. I've listened to them that many times and have just about every song they've recorded. Hell, I could just say all of The Dark Ride, Gambling with the Devil and 7 Sinners right here and that's all I need to say. You have listened to those albums, right? Riiiiiight?

I haven't listened to 7 Sinners.

The Dark Ride is pretty metal, you have me there, but I still wouldn't call it power metal.

As for Gambling With Devil, i'd say most of the songs on that are just really heavy rock. Kind of like how Disturbed have some heavier sounding stuff, but still aren't metal.


Or maybe they're just different to the rest of the power metal bands and have a distinctive style. Even if they're not power metal, at least they take a different path and not be some generic Stratovarius clone. That's not saying every power metal IS a generic Stratovarious clone, however.

Mih, Helloween have always sounded way closer to other genres then power metal IMO.


I can easily fill this one in for you. This one I've heard many times and is easily my top pick for 2010, although Ghost's Opus Enonymous might top it eventually. I feel At the Edge of TIme is the most dynamic Blind Guardian album to date. You have some thrashy tracks, you have orchestral numbers, you have piano ballads and you have proggy songs. There's a great variety of tracks in this album so there's something for every Blind Guardian fan.

Yeah, I would've filled this one in but I didn't feel like i've listened to it enough to give it a good review. I wouldn't really say the thrash elements are back, but it definitely is heavier then most of ATITM. I still need to listen to Ghost, people rave about them all the time at shows now - don't they only have one album though? If so, then they've really made quite a splash quite quickly.


Speaking of Blind Guardian, i've been listening to them since 2001 and FINALLY got to see them in november - here's a video from that AMAZING night. <333


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-05-20 12:44:46


Cathedral have announced their final show in London on 3rd December. I only have Forest of Equilibrium and The Garden of Unearthly Delights but I really should take this opportunity to see them if it's a one-time only chance. They have at least one support act that interests me which is Grand Magus. Looks like I'll have to get more Cathedral and Grand Magus from now until December.

At 5/20/11 12:27 PM, AniMetal wrote:
At 5/20/11 12:16 PM, Bahamut wrote: Funny, I could provide more than enough Deris-era Helloween songs that are metal. I've listened to them that many times and have just about every song they've recorded. Hell, I could just say all of The Dark Ride, Gambling with the Devil and 7 Sinners right here and that's all I need to say. You have listened to those albums, right? Riiiiiight?
I haven't listened to 7 Sinners.

I'd say it's worth a listen, even though it might be a standard Helloween album. I was so adapted to the other albums that when it came to this album I felt there wasn't a whole lot of fresh material but I've adapted to it as well.

As for Gambling With Devil, i'd say most of the songs on that are just really heavy rock. Kind of like how Disturbed have some heavier sounding stuff, but still aren't metal.

Comparing Helloween with Disturbed... Also, The Saints and Paint a New World.

Or maybe they're just different to the rest of the power metal bands and have a distinctive style. Even if they're not power metal, at least they take a different path and not be some generic Stratovarius clone. That's not saying every power metal IS a generic Stratovarious clone, however.
Mih, Helloween have always sounded way closer to other genres then power metal IMO.

Wait, does that mean they're more black/doom metal than power metal? XP

Yeah, I would've filled this one in but I didn't feel like i've listened to it enough to give it a good review. I wouldn't really say the thrash elements are back, but it definitely is heavier then most of ATITM.

Surely A Voice in the Dark counts for some thrash elements.

I still need to listen to Ghost, people rave about them all the time at shows now - don't they only have one album though? If so, then they've really made quite a splash quite quickly.

Yep, only one album released so far. They only formed in 2008 so hopefully there's still a lot of great material to hear from them. The last thing I want from them is to turn into another Wintersun.

Speaking of Blind Guardian, i've been listening to them since 2001 and FINALLY got to see them in november - here's a video from that AMAZING night. <333

You've been a fan of them for longer than I have. I got into them in 2006 which was when I truly got into metal. As stated on my Metal Monday introduction, 2006 was my true beginning for heavy metal when it all started with Metallica's black metal. Maybe not the best introduction but we've all got to start somewhere.

Response to Metal Hell 2011-05-20 12:55:29


At 5/20/11 12:44 PM, Bahamut wrote: Cathedral have announced their final show in London on 3rd December. I only have Forest of Equilibrium and The Garden of Unearthly Delights but I really should take this opportunity to see them if it's a one-time only chance. They have at least one support act that interests me which is Grand Magus. Looks like I'll have to get more Cathedral and Grand Magus from now until December.

You're lucky, they're playing their final USA show thursday but it's part of maryland deathfest and the whole fest is entirely sold out. Which sucks because:

On thursday Cathedral, Tragedy, Buzzov*en and Witchaven are playing
On friday Neurosis, Corrosion Of Conformity and Kylesa are playing
On saturday Voivod, Exhorder, Hooded Menace and Acid Witch are playing
On sunday Coroner, Nuclear Assault, Orange Goblin and Ghost are playing

I just listed the bands I would be interested in seeing, but sadly it's sold out. Balls.


I'd say it's worth a listen, even though it might be a standard Helloween album. I was so adapted to the other albums that when it came to this album I felt there wasn't a whole lot of fresh material but I've adapted to it as well.

I've listened to every single other Helloween album.

I never waste my time listening to post-chameleon helloween ever again.


Comparing Helloween with Disturbed... Also, The Saints and Paint a New World.

I hate paint a new world so much. haha As Long As I Fall and the bonus tracks are easily the best songs on that album, not that that's saying much.


Wait, does that mean they're more black/doom metal than power metal? XP

No, but they've always been closer to thrash metal / traditional metal / hard rock then power metal, depending on the album. :P


Surely A Voice in the Dark counts for some thrash elements.

Yeah, after I thought about it A Voice In The Dark has very retro-thrash riffing and solos. hahaha


Yep, only one album released so far. They only formed in 2008 so hopefully there's still a lot of great material to hear from them.

Yeah, they definitely made a huge splash in my area already. They need to open for a band like Opeth or Porcupine Tree then, they'd probably propel into success easily after that.

The last thing I want from them is to turn into another Wintersun.

Oh Wintersun, sucks for them: When their new album is finally released they'll release that people stopped caring about them back in 2009. hahaha


You've been a fan of them for longer than I have. I got into them in 2006 which was when I truly got into metal. As stated on my Metal Monday introduction, 2006 was my true beginning for heavy metal when it all started with Metallica's black metal. Maybe not the best introduction but we've all got to start somewhere.

Yeah, Blind Guardian was my first metal band. That's why it's been so long. :P And do you mean metallica's black ALBUM? I think you made a typo. ahaha


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-05-20 14:31:30


At 5/20/11 12:55 PM, AniMetal wrote:
At 5/20/11 12:44 PM, Bahamut wrote: Cathedral have announced their final show in London on 3rd December. I only have Forest of Equilibrium and The Garden of Unearthly Delights but I really should take this opportunity to see them if it's a one-time only chance. They have at least one support act that interests me which is Grand Magus. Looks like I'll have to get more Cathedral and Grand Magus from now until December.
You're lucky, they're playing their final USA show thursday but it's part of maryland deathfest and the whole fest is entirely sold out. Which sucks because:

It's not guaranteed that I'll be going. For all I know I could be too late with these guys just like I was far too late to get tickets to see X Japan live in London. I'm sure my sister will want to see Cathedral live seeing this is our only chance. If I do go, I really hope they play The Garden but that must be wishful thinking.

On thursday Cathedral, Tragedy, Buzzov*en and Witchaven are playing
On friday Neurosis, Corrosion Of Conformity and Kylesa are playing
On saturday Voivod, Exhorder, Hooded Menace and Acid Witch are playing
On sunday Coroner, Nuclear Assault, Orange Goblin and Ghost are playing

Oh man, that is an awful choice to choose between those days.

I hate paint a new world so much. haha

Maybe you do but it should still count.

As Long As I Fall and the bonus tracks are easily the best songs on that album, not that that's saying much.

As Long As I Fall? That's just a poor clone of If I Could Fly. I may listen to songs that have a familiar feeling to older songs made by the same band but I feel As Long As I Fall doesn't even try to be particularly interesting to what If I Could Fly already did.

Wait, does that mean they're more black/doom metal than power metal? XP
No, but they've always been closer to thrash metal / traditional metal / hard rock then power metal, depending on the album. :P

Sorry, I had to make fun of the statement of being "every other genre than power metal". As for the term hard rock, I find it to be too vague. That's why I don't really like it when it gets thrown around in metal. When I think of hard rock, I'll immediately think of AC/DC, Guns N' Roses, etc.

Yep, only one album released so far. They only formed in 2008 so hopefully there's still a lot of great material to hear from them.
Yeah, they definitely made a huge splash in my area already. They need to open for a band like Opeth or Porcupine Tree then, they'd probably propel into success easily after that.

That's if general fans of Opeth and Porcupine Tree are willing to get into a modern band that plays retro metal.

The last thing I want from them is to turn into another Wintersun.
Oh Wintersun, sucks for them: When their new album is finally released they'll release that people stopped caring about them back in 2009. hahaha

Why do I still hope for Time to come out? I suppose if we got Chinese Democracy (even though it's a piece of shit) and we should get Duke Nukem Forever next month, surely we'll get Time eventually...

Eventually...
And do you mean metallica's black ALBUM? I think you made a typo. ahaha

I said Metallica's Black metal? lmao, what a fucked up typo that is.

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At 5/20/11 12:44 PM, Bahamut wrote: 2006 was my true beginning for heavy metal when it all started with Metallica's black album. Maybe not the best introduction but we've all got to start somewhere.

Hey, since when is Metallica NOT a good introduction to metal? It started with Metallica's "And Justice For All" for me. ;)


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-05-20 17:12:09


At 5/20/11 04:55 PM, Shade wrote: Hey, can I get some recent metal bands that aren't screamo? Or is that possible? I'm not trying to be rude but I just don't like not being able to understand the lyrics.

Falconer is a good way to go. Listen to this and you'll see what I mean lol - before Mathias Blad (lead singer in Falconer) I had no idea there was such thing as good music with a touching voice.

If it wasn't for this club, I'd have no idea what music to listen to lol. I swear to god, every time I click on this club I hear about a band that becomes my favorite, until I look again and see another one. A while back I clicked on a random page or two, and boom! Tyr and Die Apokalyptischen Rieter are some of my favorite bands. Even though I only know rudimentary German, and I can't even mouth any Faroese words. I spent today memorizing the lyrics to Tróndur í Gøtu, yet my tongue hurts when I speak the words haha.


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At 5/20/11 04:55 PM, Shade wrote: Hey, can I get some recent metal bands that aren't screamo? Or is that possible? I'm not trying to be rude but I just don't like not being able to understand the lyrics.

Power Metal is probably the best way to go if you want clarity in the vocals and I recommend Helloween, Stratovarius, Gamma Ray, and Blind Guardian for that. Another good avenue is folk metal in the vein of Tyr or Ensefirum, they're usually not too heavy on the growling or roaring. Heavy Metal and Thrash in the vein of Metallica or Megadeth for Thrash and Motorhead or Iron Maiden for Heavy is also right up that alley.

To be honest though I think you really might want to give the more indecipherable metal a chance once you've eased into it a bit more because I honestly find Black Metal vocals to be some of the most intense in music and even if they're a bit abrasive at first they become something much better in time.

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Listening to Hell's album today. Bring it on rapture!

Response to Metal Hell 2011-05-21 07:00:45


At 5/21/11 06:54 AM, Bahamut wrote: Listening to Hell's album today. Bring it on rapture!

Nothing yet. Maybe Jesus lost track of time?


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At 5/20/11 07:30 AM, SomaGuye wrote:
At 5/19/11 04:32 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: Yeah, and buy a 7-string guitar just to chug on a lower tuning is plain stupid when you can just detune a 6-string guitar to a lower tuning with thicker strings.
Not always possible, especially if you go down into the next octave below A. Not without having strings as floppy as a donkeys ballsack anyway.

Are chug-chuggers so br00tal that they've got to go that low? Why don't they just play bass instead...


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At 5/20/11 01:25 AM, Bahamut wrote:
At 5/19/11 04:14 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I'm not a big Power Metal fan myself, but these guys are absolutely amazing, and I think this one album is a gem.
I thought you were a big fan of power metal.

Well. I know quite a lot of power metal. And I listen to quite a few bands. But I wouldn't say I'm like AniMetal or Rokuro. These guys I would consider them "big power metal fans". But you could still say that I like power metal, yes.

Maybe you'll be surprised, but I never got into Blind Guardian. I don't have any of their work in my iTunes Library and I don't think that I've listenned to more then 10 songs by them in my entire life.
All I can say is you're missing out on quite a bit.

Tell me which album to start my journey with. This band got such a large discography... I can't choose where to start.

At 5/20/11 04:45 AM, Xarnor wrote: First of all, don't be thrown off by my level 1 user icon, I'm still Xarnor, just had my account reset basically.

Why would you ever want to reset your account?

I click the Submit button, and it turns out MA had logged me out for some reason, and my whole review is gone. It's my own fault for not saving the damn thing, but FFFUUUUUCKKKK, this really sucks. Eventually I'll probably end up writing it again, but redoing the same work twice never works as well as it did the first time..

I write my reviews on WordPad and save countless times while I write it. You should always do that! It sucks that you lost all you hard work... seriously... I feel sorry for you...

At 5/20/11 08:01 AM, AniMetal wrote: Most REAL power metal fans either hate Sonata Arctica or only like their older stuff and admit to it as being a guilty pleasure.

I don't care about it being real power metal or not. They make awesome music. The feeling to their music is fantastic, and Tony Kakko can really take you anywhere he wants with his voice. I myself, only enjoy their oldest stuff, though.

BUT to someone who listens to a lot of metal, and I mean like tons of thrash or black or something, or someone who DOES in fact play an instrument - when they hear any sonata arctica they are likely to totally hate sonata arctica and be turned off of power metal for a long time.

That definitely doesn't fit me in any way. I know a lot of music, especially metal. And even if I don't really play any instruments, I know a lot of theory, scales, time signatures and all that stuff... And I still enjoy their stuff a lot. Can't see why it shouldn't be the case... Power Metal never really was renown for very complex song structures or technical playing. Isn't it supposed to be about the ambience, the melodies and the general feeling of the music?

So yeah, when introducing someone to power metal be sure to keep that in mind before recommending sonata arctica. (That's to everyone)

When I introduce someone to Sonata Arctica it's usually not to introduce them to Power Metal. As they are pretty much "unique" in the genre.

By the way, I've read your whole post for the Bling Guardian albums. I will check out some of them right away.

At 5/20/11 12:16 PM, Bahamut wrote: This is why you should ALWAYS write up reviews, rants or whatever on a word document. Never fucking ever write it all up on an internet post box.

Even my posts for Newgrounds are written in WordPad :P

At 5/20/11 04:55 PM, Shade wrote: Hey, can I get some recent metal bands that aren't screamo? Or is that possible? I'm not trying to be rude but I just don't like not being able to understand the lyrics.

Could you try to be a little more accurate? Cause Metal and Screamo have absolutely fucking nothing to do with each other. Do you mean that you don't like screamers in Metal music?

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Well, this is a bummer. I thought the world would have ended yesterday. That means I have to study for finals. Awww....I was hoping I didn't have to do that.

Anyways, I found a pretty cool thrash metal band called Vengeance Rising. Check em out.


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At 5/21/11 07:00 AM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:
At 5/21/11 06:54 AM, Bahamut wrote: Listening to Hell's album today. Bring it on rapture!
Nothing yet. Maybe Jesus lost track of time?

Jack shit happened, oh well.

At 5/22/11 01:25 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:
At 5/20/11 01:25 AM, Bahamut wrote: I thought you were a big fan of power metal.
Well. I know quite a lot of power metal. And I listen to quite a few bands. But I wouldn't say I'm like AniMetal or Rokuro. These guys I would consider them "big power metal fans". But you could still say that I like power metal, yes.

I'd say there's a difference between AniMetal and Rokuro and "big fan of power metal". Those two are extremely dedicated.

All I can say is you're missing out on quite a bit.
Tell me which album to start my journey with. This band got such a large discography... I can't choose where to start.

I'd say Imaginations from the Other Side is a safe bet. Every song is excellent as already stated by AniMetal.

At 5/20/11 12:16 PM, Bahamut wrote: This is why you should ALWAYS write up reviews, rants or whatever on a word document. Never fucking ever write it all up on an internet post box.
Even my posts for Newgrounds are written in WordPad :P

Hey, I write my posts in WordPad as well. High five, man!

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At 5/21/11 07:00 AM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:
At 5/21/11 06:54 AM, Bahamut wrote: Listening to Hell's album today. Bring it on rapture!
Nothing yet. Maybe Jesus lost track of time?

According to some, not even Jesus knows the hour of his return. But maybe he just got distracted on the way here?


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At 5/22/11 10:20 AM, Bahamut wrote: I'd say there's a difference between AniMetal and Rokuro and "big fan of power metal". Those two are extremely dedicated.

I guess... But everytime AniMetal starts talking about Power Metal he makes me feel like I'm a complete noob in terms of Power Metal. He's always like "Sonata Arctica are not liked by REAL power metal fans" or "that Edguy album is not Power Metal, it's Traditionnal Metal."

I'd say Imaginations from the Other Side is a safe bet. Every song is excellent as already stated by AniMetal.

I got three albums last night. Nightfall In Middle-Earth, Tales From The Twilight World and Somewhere Far Beyond. I didn't listen to Nightfall In Middle-Earth, but I'll do it today. Somewhere Far Beyond is pretty cool, but I'm really not sure about Tales From The Twilight World. The lyrics and lyrical themes in general are kind of... meh... When they go "Oh, last night and the night before Tommyknockers, Tommyknockers knocked at your back door, Tommyknockers!" I can't listen to the music cause this is too goddamn funny. The riffing was not bad, but through the first listen, nothing really catched my ear. I will give it more then one listen for sure, though. Except for that Tommyknockers song...

I'll get the one you suggested also :)

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Response to Metal Hell 2011-05-22 15:50:22


I, like Duff, am starting to listen to Blind Guardian now. I am starting with Nightfall in Middle Earth because Lord of the Rings is kvlt and so far it's really awesome.

Response to Metal Hell 2011-05-22 16:12:28


What is everyone's opinion on Periphery? Some of my friends have been raving over them for awhile.

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At 5/22/11 03:50 PM, Gobblemeister wrote: I, like Duff, am starting to listen to Blind Guardian now. I am starting with Nightfall in Middle Earth because Lord of the Rings is kvlt and so far it's really awesome.

Eh, I don't really like Nightfall in Middle Earth. I think it suffers from the problem that a lot of people say Twist in the Myth had, where none of the songs are really that memorable. It has a 82% average on Metal Archives, however, so I'm probably in the minority. When Sorrow Sang is an awesome song, though.


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-05-22 16:26:44


At 5/22/11 04:20 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:
At 5/22/11 03:50 PM, Gobblemeister wrote:
Eh, I don't really like Nightfall in Middle Earth. I think it suffers from the problem that a lot of people say Twist in the Myth had, where none of the songs are really that memorable.

For me Nightfall and Mirror Mirror have stood out really well to me. The entire album itself has been just a pleasant experience and all of songs are really good prototypical power metal.

Response to Metal Hell 2011-05-22 16:36:01


At 5/22/11 04:26 PM, Gobblemeister wrote:
At 5/22/11 04:20 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:
At 5/22/11 03:50 PM, Gobblemeister wrote:
Eh, I don't really like Nightfall in Middle Earth. I think it suffers from the problem that a lot of people say Twist in the Myth had, where none of the songs are really that memorable.
For me Nightfall and Mirror Mirror have stood out really well to me. The entire album itself has been just a pleasant experience and all of songs are really good prototypical power metal.

Oh yeah! How could I forget those two? I really liked them as well. I don't think it's a bad album, but I don't know if I'd listen to it all the way through again like I do with some other Blind Guardian albums.


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Response to Metal Hell 2011-05-22 16:39:43


I only ever liked the ballads from Blind Guardian. Lord of the rings, bright eyes, and Bard's song. The heavier stuff I find boring.

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