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Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 01:48:51


At 10/26/10 11:47 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: a reply setting straight (once again) the difference between deathcore and death metal.

Back to Smeagol's idea of having "experts," Duff would for sure be the Death/Tech-Death expert.

Speaking of Tech-Death, this makes me want a cowbell on my next drum kit.

Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 03:07:31


At 10/27/10 01:48 AM, hypersomniax wrote:
At 10/26/10 11:47 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: a reply setting straight (once again) the difference between deathcore and death metal.
Back to Smeagol's idea of having "experts," Duff would for sure be the Death/Tech-Death expert.

Speaking of Tech-Death, this makes me want a cowbell on my next drum kit.

Like you said, Tech Death... or maybe Modern Death Metal. Like Dalnaki said before, I don't know a lot of the Old-School Death Metal bands. I know Atheist, Death, does Suffocation count?... There is Autopsy, Obituary, Morbid Angel... I know these bands by name, but don't know a lot from their discography... which is sad. If I had uTorrent again, I'd get myself some old-school death metal, along with some Obscura and Sunn O)))

Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 05:54:36


At 10/26/10 09:05 PM, AniMetal wrote: To be honest, i've always considered Municipal Waste, D.R.I., Suicidal Tendencies, etc. more punk bands than thrash metal bands.

I can see why, especially Municipal Waste's earlier albums like Waste 'Em All and Hazardous Mutation, it's crossover thrash really, waaaay more punky than The Art Of Partying or (especially) Massive Aggressive, which is more metal.

I love them all though :3

And Duff thanks for the comparison of deathcore to deathmetal, I've been trying to find the words to explain it to a mate of mine who's convinced Whitechapel and Job For A Cowboy are deathmetal, though he is currently going through a hardcore phase thanks to it suddenly becoming popular in my city for some reason.

and the gigs...don't get me started on the gigs..THEY ALL SOUND THE SAAAAAAAAAAAAME

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 06:33:03


At 10/26/10 09:05 PM, AniMetal wrote:
At 10/18/10 12:50 PM, Bahamut wrote: I'm still wondering how bad the album really is to some. If it's got a strong Maiden/Priest-vibe, I get the feeling I'll enjoy it.
It's not bad, it's just 100% iron maiden worship.

And to be honest, I actually highly dislike all iron maiden outside of Seventh Son Of The Seventh Son and Somewhere In Time.

You're making it sound like I'll really enjoy Night on Bröcken.

At 10/18/10 08:48 PM, Zodir wrote: I'm still curious, what would you consider "power metal with balls." The only two I can think of are Sabaton and Persuader. Possibly Gamma Ray.
grave Digger, blind guardian, oldschool helloween, oldschool fates warning, primal fear, etc.

Of course to Blind Guardian, Helloween and Fates Warning. I only have two Grave Digger albums while I still need to get into Primal Fear. They recently announced re-releases so that's a good time for me to get into them if I happen to like what I hear from them.

Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 07:25:17


At 10/26/10 11:47 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: No... Whitechapel... Job for a cowboy... and stuff like that... is DeathCORE. Deathcore and Death Metal are two totally different musical genres.

I thought stuff like Suicide Silence was Deathcore. The type of band seems a bit different to me. Well, if that's true then thanks. : P


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hey all, im back again.. i can never remember to check the forums lol, but yeah, i was wondering, what record should i get next? an iron maiden one, a sabbath one, a rainbow one or a priest one, or any other artists i should consider?


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 10:06:40


At 10/26/10 11:47 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Deathcore is a musical genre that takes song structures, chords progressions, riff paterns and the kind of riffs most likely found in hardcore music. Hense the suffix core. The word Death, was taken from Death Metal. Only possible similarities between the genres would be the Death growls, guitar tuning, production sound and maybe some of the drumlines. Very few bands would qualify as both Death Metal and Deathcore.

Now you're just giving deathcore bands too much credit. Most of them have never heard a legit hardcore band in their life, they just copy each other. They probably think Rise Against is hardcore, too.

The only true deathcore band according to your definition would be Abscess.

Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 10:48:17


At 10/26/10 02:00 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:
I don't know bro, I know a few black metal bands, and a lot of the other guys could also pretend to that title.

I don't think you understand, a large majority of what I listen to is black metal. Hell i'm listening to Mayhem as I type this. I am the black wizards, THEE BLACK METAL EXPERT in here. You want black metal come to me.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 11:04:05


At 10/27/10 10:48 AM, smeagol1 wrote: I don't think you understand, a large majority of what I listen to is black metal. Hell i'm listening to Mayhem as I type this. I am the black wizards, THEE BLACK METAL EXPERT in here. You want black metal come to me.

I have never heard you mention any underground BM acts, if you think you are the black metal expert show it, any black metal expert should live in the BM underground.

Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 11:36:46


At 10/27/10 11:04 AM, SomaGuye wrote: I have never heard you mention any underground BM acts, if you think you are the black metal expert show it, any black metal expert should live in the BM underground.

I was about to say. Recommending everyone Marduk and Dark Funeral would be boring as fuck.

Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 11:51:42


Fenris
Horna
DarkThrone
Nargoroth
Dissection
Bathory
Hellhammer
Isengard
Diabolical Masqurade
Emperor
Judas Iscariot
Rotting Christ
Armagedda
Behexen
1349
Satyricon
Wolves In the Throne Room
Xasther
Razor Of Occam
Akercocke

I'll post more later.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 12:00:49


You've listed three bands that aren't well-known here and one that isn't even black metal, dude. And do you really want to get into the band naming game?

Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 12:03:36


At 10/27/10 12:00 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote: You've listed three bands that aren't well-known here and one that isn't even black metal, dude. And do you really want to get into the band naming game?

I'll pull on your dick with more later.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 13:58:00


At 10/27/10 12:00 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote: You've listed three bands that aren't well-known here and one that isn't even black metal, dude. And do you really want to get into the band naming game?

I was about to say, I've heard of all of them, not exactly underground.

Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 15:12:17


At 10/27/10 01:58 PM, SomaGuye wrote:
At 10/27/10 12:00 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote: You've listed three bands that aren't well-known here and one that isn't even black metal, dude. And do you really want to get into the band naming game?
I was about to say, I've heard of all of them, not exactly underground.

Agreed, and i'm not even THAT into black metal. hahaha

Anyway, i'm seeing Devin Townsend and Tesseract on friday!

Song recommendations by both artists? (I'm going because it's only 15 bucks and because devin's work with strapping young lad is incredible, I don't know more than a handful of songs by his solo project...regrettably.)


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 15:34:54


At 10/26/10 09:05 PM, AniMetal wrote: (COB's first album is decent though)

Damn, that sounds so typical. I love COB, no matter what you guys say, almost every band has at least one riff that was used before, it's hard to invent something now, the bands are starting to recycle. But yeah, COB is very hardcore "Fuck you!", "I don't give a flying fuck motherfucker!", but it's just their style, hate! I love them, clean, melodic and agressive.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 16:08:58


At 10/27/10 03:34 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote:
At 10/26/10 09:05 PM, AniMetal wrote: (COB's first album is decent though)
Damn, that sounds so typical. I love COB, no matter what you guys say, almost every band has at least one riff that was used before, it's hard to invent something now, the bands are starting to recycle. But yeah, COB is very hardcore "Fuck you!", "I don't give a flying fuck motherfucker!", but it's just their style, hate! I love them, clean, melodic and agressive.

It's not a coincidence, go listen to large amounts of manowar. (and by large amounts, I mean all their albums) then go listen to children of bodom.

OH HEY ALMOST EVERY COB RIFF SOUND LIKE A FASTER, MORE DISTORTED MANOWAR RIFF. COINCIDENCE!

Also, like I said - the fact these guys randomly insult other bands is totally uncool. Seriously, constantly calling dream theater the most boring band ever, calling In Flames sellouts(even if it's true it's still hypocritical) and calling Glen Dover a horrible guitarist? Why?

AND both times I saw COB(With other GOOD bands) they were too drunk out of their minds, fuck once alexi laiho basically tripped over backwards while butchering a guitar solo.

These guys are awful.

And FYI, the mass opinion on COB is that every COB album before Are You Dead Yet? is amazing, i'm only saying their first album is DECENT, not amazing.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 17:02:39


At 10/27/10 04:08 PM, AniMetal wrote:
At 10/27/10 03:34 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote:
At 10/26/10 09:05 PM, AniMetal wrote: (COB's first album is decent though)
Damn, that sounds so typical. I love COB, no matter what you guys say, almost every band has at least one riff that was used before, it's hard to invent something now, the bands are starting to recycle. But yeah, COB is very hardcore "Fuck you!", "I don't give a flying fuck motherfucker!", but it's just their style, hate! I love them, clean, melodic and agressive.
It's not a coincidence, go listen to large amounts of manowar. (and by large amounts, I mean all their albums) then go listen to children of bodom.

OH HEY ALMOST EVERY COB RIFF SOUND LIKE A FASTER, MORE DISTORTED MANOWAR RIFF. COINCIDENCE!

I don't even like Manowar that much. I'm composing a song that sounds a lot like Insomnium, but it's not Insomnium. It's hard to create anything new, deal with that.


Also, like I said - the fact these guys randomly insult other bands is totally uncool. Seriously, constantly calling dream theater the most boring band ever, calling In Flames sellouts(even if it's true it's still hypocritical) and calling Glen Dover a horrible guitarist? Why?

Never heard them insulting anyone... But well, if they are a "fuck it" band...


AND both times I saw COB(With other GOOD bands) they were too drunk out of their minds, fuck once alexi laiho basically tripped over backwards while butchering a guitar solo.

They're finnish, that's why they drink as fuck.

And FYI, the mass opinion on COB is that every COB album before Are You Dead Yet? is amazing, i'm only saying their first album is DECENT, not amazing.

So what do you want? You want me to congratulate you? I am talking about metal bands that are typically hated here, just because they're, more or less, known... And yes, more or less known, but well, this is what I think, I live in a place where metal is almost totally despised and there are very few headbangers. You can't deny, you guys go all like, "their first album is cool, but everything else they did suck."
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Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 17:08:47


At 10/27/10 10:48 AM, smeagol1 wrote: You want black metal come to me.

you mean go to Bruce.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 17:20:43


At 10/27/10 05:08 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:
At 10/27/10 10:48 AM, smeagol1 wrote: You want black metal come to me.
you mean go to Bruce.

I hate you, I make a fucking idea and get fucked someway some form that's always what happens to me! Fuck it! Fuck it all !!!!


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 17:38:14


At 10/27/10 05:20 PM, smeagol1 wrote:
At 10/27/10 05:08 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:
At 10/27/10 10:48 AM, smeagol1 wrote: You want black metal come to me.
you mean go to Bruce.
I hate you, I make a fucking idea and get fucked someway some form that's always what happens to me! Fuck it! Fuck it all !!!!

You should kill yourself. That would show us, and prove your trveness.

Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 17:42:27


At 10/27/10 05:38 PM, SomaGuye wrote:
At 10/27/10 05:20 PM, smeagol1 wrote:
At 10/27/10 05:08 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:
At 10/27/10 10:48 AM, smeagol1 wrote: You want black metal come to me.
you mean go to Bruce.
I hate you, I make a fucking idea and get fucked someway some form that's always what happens to me! Fuck it! Fuck it all !!!!
You should kill yourself. That would show us, and prove your trveness.

Cowards kill themselves, unless they are great musicians( drugs and what not fucks them up) that's my only exception. I'm done trying to contribute anything to Hell might as well give in and wear the village idiot sign.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 17:50:48


At 10/27/10 05:02 PM, TheDaemonicPoet wrote: I don't even like Manowar that much. I'm composing a song that sounds a lot like Insomnium, but it's not Insomnium. It's hard to create anything new, deal with that.

They don't sound anything like manowar, HOWEVER almost every song on follow the reaper and onwards uses manowar riffs. It's not coincidence, it's not "just sounding like manowar" - it's a total thievery.


Also, like I said - the fact these guys randomly insult other bands is totally uncool. Seriously, constantly calling dream theater the most boring band ever, calling In Flames sellouts(even if it's true it's still hypocritical) and calling Glen Dover a horrible guitarist? Why?
Never heard them insulting anyone... But well, if they are a "fuck it" band...

And so are D.R.I. and most other thrash metal and punk bands, I rarely hear about any of them openly admitting high dislike for other artists for NO REASON AT ALL.


AND both times I saw COB(With other GOOD bands) they were too drunk out of their minds, fuck once alexi laiho basically tripped over backwards while butchering a guitar solo.
They're finnish, that's why they drink as fuck.

That is the biggest bullshit excuse I have ever read.

Stratovarius are Finnish too, are they drunks? LOL NO.


So what do you want? You want me to congratulate you? I am talking about metal bands that are typically hated here, just because they're, more or less, known... And yes, more or less known, but well, this is what I think, I live in a place where metal is almost totally despised and there are very few headbangers. You can't deny, you guys go all like, "their first album is cool, but everything else they did suck."

No, just because a band is popular doesn't mean they're bad. (Opeth have sold out shows near me before and they're one of my favorite bands)

Fuck, almost everyone here loves metallica's first four albums and they're THE most successful metal band of all time. (Iron Maiden is a close second)


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 17:51:35


At 10/27/10 05:42 PM, smeagol1 wrote: might as well give in and wear the village idiot sign.

You were always wearing it.

Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 19:19:18


At 10/27/10 12:03 PM, smeagol1 wrote: I'll pull on your dick with more later.

... you'll do what?

And the idea was horrible. Why can't we just be free, man? Away from the shackles of titles and oppression. Yeah?

Also, Dent. I checked out Harvey Milk and despite only listening to two songs (so hardly a complete analysis) I thought the vocalist sounded like he was straining to sound aggressive. Like he was too shy to actually scream into a mic so just tried to scream quietly, if you will.
The rest sounds good and I'll give them more a listen for sure, but thats the my first impression.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 19:32:40


About that statement you made on CoB taking riffs from Manowar, I would like to have some kind of proofs, maybe like links to youtube or whatever with the time at which the riff is played in both songs so I can hear these "exact same riffs" you are talking about.

Plus... I never ever liked Manowar and I love CoB's work. So even if the riffs were taken from Manowar songs, I don't care, cause they sound nothing like them. In fact, CoB is one of these bands that you can recognize after hearing only a few notes of any of their songs. They have a unique sound and their leads guitars are no rip-offs of any other artists, except maybe some melodies they took from classical composers (Vivaldi would be one) and that is more like a display of respect than a rip-off.

So they may not have unique riffs (and I still need a proof of that) but they have a unique sound, unique leads and solos and they are still an amazing band, no matter how stupid they could act off-stage. And about them being drunk on show... I saw them live and they were not drunk. So they are not always drunk, and I have heard of plenty of musicians who plays drunk live. I know it's sad, but they are not the only musicians to do so.

At 10/27/10 01:58 PM, SomaGuye wrote:
At 10/27/10 12:00 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote: You've listed three bands that aren't well-known here and one that isn't even black metal, dude. And do you really want to get into the band naming game?
I was about to say, I've heard of all of them, not exactly underground.

I don't think it was his point. Knowing the names or a few songs from everysingle artist from his list, is not making you a specialist of the said genre. I think that what he meant is that he knows these bands very well.

At 10/27/10 05:42 PM, smeagol1 wrote:
At 10/27/10 05:38 PM, SomaGuye wrote:
At 10/27/10 05:20 PM, smeagol1 wrote:
At 10/27/10 05:08 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:
At 10/27/10 10:48 AM, smeagol1 wrote: You want black metal come to me.
you mean go to Bruce.
I hate you, I make a fucking idea and get fucked someway some form that's always what happens to me! Fuck it! Fuck it all !!!!

Dude! You want to try to make something happen in the Metal Hell, you could start by reading our fucking posts and take parts in discussions. I barely ever see you quoting someone, except when you get in a fight. You do not answer to our posts or even care about what is said, and you expect us to read your things? Try to be somewhat consequent with yourself and don't be hypocritical. You want us to read your stuff and care, start caring about what goes on in the Hell.

You should kill yourself. That would show us, and prove your trveness.
Cowards kill themselves, unless they are great musicians( drugs and what not fucks them up) that's my only exception. I'm done trying to contribute anything to Hell might as well give in and wear the village idiot sign.

Only cowards kill themselves? Such a crude judgemental statement...

And like I said before, first contribution to the Hell would be to take parts in discussions. If you actually thought I would do a good power metal pro for the Metal Hell, that just prooves you can't fucking read.

Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 20:01:51


At 10/27/10 07:32 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

just prooves you can't fucking read.

fuck you duff don't you insult my fucking intelligence! fuck this shit, im taking a long break from metal hell none of you really gave two shit about me anyways. I try to be a part of some thing but no my opinion doesn't fucking matter here obviously

I'm expecting Bahamut to stop on by and ban me like the fruit he is.

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 20:04:56


That's enough of the drama bullshit. Just let smeagol be and allow him to leave us all alone.

Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 20:08:10


At 10/27/10 07:32 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: maybe some melodies they took from classical composers (Vivaldi would be one) and that is more like a display of respect than a rip-off.

So, if it's ripping off a different genre, it's a sign of respect, instead of unoriginality?

Also. For all you guys looking for good power metal. Check out Fairyland.

Response to Metal Hell 2010-10-27 21:31:17


At 10/27/10 08:08 PM, Dalnaki wrote:
At 10/27/10 07:32 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: maybe some melodies they took from classical composers (Vivaldi would be one) and that is more like a display of respect than a rip-off.
So, if it's ripping off a different genre, it's a sign of respect, instead of unoriginality?

No, it's a kind of cover... You can't really play the Four Seasons of Vivaldi and expect it to go unnoticed... But em, I don't think CoB did that anyway... Only Laiho and Latvala did this... You can actually find a video of them playing it on YouTube.

At 10/27/10 08:01 PM, smeagol1 wrote:
At 10/27/10 07:32 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
just prooves you can't fucking read.

fuck you duff don't you insult my fucking intelligence! fuck this shit, im taking a long break from metal hell none of you really gave two shit about me anyways. I try to be a part of some thing but no my opinion doesn't fucking matter here obviously

I read your posts like I do for all of the members of the Hell. We do not give a fuck about you, cause you obviously don't give a fuck about us. Like the guys told you... when you suggested that we have pros for the different metal genres, you were all wrong, except for Ponos... Dude, explain me how you came to the conclusion that I would be the Power Metal guy, while I'm talking about Death Metal and Atmospheric Metal in at least 3/4 of my posts...

Anyway...