At 8/20/10 09:05 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:
At 8/20/10 03:54 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:
At 8/20/10 03:00 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:
At 8/20/10 01:01 PM, Nev wrote:
At 8/20/10 09:40 AM, SomaGuye wrote:
I think a while back we were talking about ridiculous song lengths. Well I found the winner
Sorry bucko.
I wasn't suprised when I found out it was composed by the same guy who made 4'33", the composition that requires its musicans to not play anything, just stand around and do nothing. That guy is a fucking hack.
Uh, John Cage is a genius and he's done far more than 4'33''. He's not a "hack" because you don't understand it.
Hey, let's make a movie that's just blank screen. It'll be considered "genius" because it's never been done before.
It's probably already been done before.
1. The point of 4'33'' isn't the silence of the players not playing, it's supposed to make the audience listen to the ambient sounds around them.
2. John Cage is a genius whose music has influenced an insane amount of avant-garde composers and experimental musicians, both directly and indirectly.
3. He's composed tons of actual music, 4'33'' is just his most famous because it's his most controversial (which was the point).
4. Cage's idea was to attach reactionary, traditionalist concepts of music. The point isn't for it to sound nice on your iPod.
5. Most of his stuff borders on performance art so you can't truly understand it without actually being their at the performance, since most of his work hinges on tonality, improvisation, and chance.