Um...ah...what're we talking about now?

Groove metal? Metalcore? I...I...IT'S TOO FUCKING CONFUSING

At 8/19/10 08:54 AM, Coop83 wrote: and the fact that he still hasn't forgiven them.

Oh has he fuck. Mustaine will be bitter until the day he dies.

Megadeth is a band born entirely out of spite for Metallica, and I fucking love that.

At 8/19/10 03:17 AM, SomaGuye wrote:

At 8/18/10 03:24 PM, TheUnwisePoet wrote: Oh, so you think about me as a core guy... Now I'm sad.

But you are aren't you?

Not anymore.

At 8/18/10 10:04 AM, TheUnwisePoet wrote: And Lamb of God is not metalcore!

Yes they are.

Technical Groove Metal they are.

I don't know who came up with the idea of groove metal but whoever it was needs a slap. It isn't a real subgenre, and the only band I've ever seen called groove metal is Pantera.

Fuck... I will just not care and keep with my opinion... What would you say if I called them New Wave of American Metal? Damn...

At 8/19/10 03:53 PM, TheUnwisePoet wrote:

I don't know who came up with the idea of groove metal but whoever it was needs a slap. It isn't a real subgenre, and the only band I've ever seen called groove metal is Pantera.

Fuck... I will just not care and keep with my opinion... What would you say if I called them New Wave of American Metal? Damn...

That would be an accurate description.

At 8/18/10 09:14 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 8/18/10 09:04 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Just received The Sound Of Perseverance in my Mailbox. It's great :)

Doesn't Chuck's voice sound even more awesome on that album? I love it.

Fuck yeah !! And that cover of Painkiller is fuckin rad !!

At 8/19/10 03:24 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Megadeth is a band born entirely out of spite for Metallica, and I fucking love that.

"To sell out all your friends, and stab them in the back, it's something that you are, it's something that I'm not!"

That being said, I love both bands.

Im so fucking pissed i didn't have to money for 1349's new album! I was in Radio shack and they had it! The last one too. V_V

I think a while back we were talking about ridiculous song lengths. Well I found the winner, Bull of Heaven. Like a Wall in Which an Insect Lives and Gnaws clocks in at 50000 hours and 3.9 Terabytes. If any of you can listen to it the whole way through I will give you everything I have to my name. If you want something more reasonable you could try Blurred With Tears and Suffering Beyond Hope, which is a much smaller 4724 hours and 380 Gigabytes.

At 8/20/10 09:40 AM, SomaGuye wrote: Like a Wall in Which an Insect Lives and Gnaws clocks in at 50000 hours and 3.9 Terabytes. If any of you can listen to it the whole way through I will give you everything I have to my name.

What interesting things do you have?

At 8/20/10 10:26 AM, TheUnwisePoet wrote:

At 8/20/10 09:40 AM, SomaGuye wrote: Like a Wall in Which an Insect Lives and Gnaws clocks in at 50000 hours and 3.9 Terabytes. If any of you can listen to it the whole way through I will give you everything I have to my name.

What interesting things do you have?

I have quite a bit of music and video games paraphernalia, and in the 5.7 years it would take you to listen to that track I'm sure I will have acquired much more interesting stuff.

At 8/19/10 11:38 AM, Tobi wrote: But unless you love Slayer's style with passion, it may not do it for you.

I enjoy their first five albums but not so much after. My problems with the songs I heard was how awful they sounded to me. I could have sworn World Painted Blood song sounded like Slipknot.

At 8/19/10 03:24 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Megadeth is a band born entirely out of spite for Metallica, and I fucking love that.

I just love how if it wasn't for Mustaine, Cliff Burton would have never joined Metallica.

At 8/20/10 10:32 AM, SomaGuye wrote:

At 8/20/10 10:26 AM, TheUnwisePoet wrote:

At 8/20/10 09:40 AM, SomaGuye wrote: Like a Wall in Which an Insect Lives and Gnaws clocks in at 50000 hours and 3.9 Terabytes. If any of you can listen to it the whole way through I will give you everything I have to my name.

What interesting things do you have?

I have quite a bit of music and video games paraphernalia, and in the 5.7 years it would take you to listen to that track I'm sure I will have acquired much more interesting stuff.

If my life goes to the point of misery, I will waste 5.7 years listening to that song. Also, can I pause it go to sleep or something and then start listening to it again at the minute I stopped? Or will I have to buy an Ipod with 3.9 Terabytes?

At 8/20/10 11:03 AM, TheUnwisePoet wrote: If my life goes to the point of misery, I will waste 5.7 years listening to that song. Also, can I pause it go to sleep or something and then start listening to it again at the minute I stopped? Or will I have to buy an Ipod with 3.9 Terabytes?

Yes you can pause it. But you would get bonus points for listening non stop.

At 8/20/10 11:10 AM, SomaGuye wrote: Yes you can pause it. But you would get bonus points for listening non stop.

"MOM! More HOT POCKETS."

At 8/20/10 09:40 AM, SomaGuye wrote: I think a while back we were talking about ridiculous song lengths. Well I found the winner

Sorry bucko.

As Slow As Possible: The current organ performance of the piece at St. Burchardi church in Halberstadt, Germany, began in 2001 and is scheduled to have a duration of 639 years, ending in 2640.

At 8/20/10 01:01 PM, Nev wrote: Sorry bucko.

As Slow As Possible: The current organ performance of the piece at St. Burchardi church in Halberstadt, Germany, began in 2001 and is scheduled to have a duration of 639 years, ending in 2640.

Until it actually finishes it doesn't count.

At 8/20/10 03:00 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:

At 8/20/10 01:01 PM, Nev wrote:

At 8/20/10 09:40 AM, SomaGuye wrote: I think a while back we were talking about ridiculous song lengths. Well I found the winner

Sorry bucko.

I wasn't suprised when I found out it was composed by the same guy who made 4'33", the composition that requires its musicans to not play anything, just stand around and do nothing. That guy is a fucking hack.

Uh, John Cage is a genius and he's done far more than 4'33''. He's not a "hack" because you don't understand it.

At 8/20/10 02:16 PM, SomaGuye wrote: Until it actually finishes it doesn't count.

Well its been going for 9 years already so it's still longer than that 50000 hours thing.

At 8/20/10 01:01 PM, Nev wrote: Sorry bucko.

As Slow As Possible: The current organ performance of the piece at St. Burchardi church in Halberstadt, Germany, began in 2001 and is scheduled to have a duration of 639 years, ending in 2640.

Now people are talking about making songs going as slow as possible? I really do find these kind of songs silly. I still can't get over how some people insist on making a song that lasts for a fucking millennium.

Longplayer

At 8/20/10 09:05 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:

Hey, let's make a movie that's just blank screen. It'll be considered "genius" because it's never been done before.

That is pretty much what I'm thinking about all this bullcrap. If you want to hear the same note for 2 years, just pick up your phone...

At 8/20/10 09:05 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:

At 8/20/10 03:54 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 8/20/10 03:00 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:

At 8/20/10 01:01 PM, Nev wrote:

At 8/20/10 09:40 AM, SomaGuye wrote: I think a while back we were talking about ridiculous song lengths. Well I found the winner

Sorry bucko.

I wasn't suprised when I found out it was composed by the same guy who made 4'33", the composition that requires its musicans to not play anything, just stand around and do nothing. That guy is a fucking hack.

Uh, John Cage is a genius and he's done far more than 4'33''. He's not a "hack" because you don't understand it.

Hey, let's make a movie that's just blank screen. It'll be considered "genius" because it's never been done before.

It's probably already been done before.

1. The point of 4'33'' isn't the silence of the players not playing, it's supposed to make the audience listen to the ambient sounds around them.
2. John Cage is a genius whose music has influenced an insane amount of avant-garde composers and experimental musicians, both directly and indirectly.
3. He's composed tons of actual music, 4'33'' is just his most famous because it's his most controversial (which was the point).
4. Cage's idea was to attach reactionary, traditionalist concepts of music. The point isn't for it to sound nice on your iPod.
5. Most of his stuff borders on performance art so you can't truly understand it without actually being their at the performance, since most of his work hinges on tonality, improvisation, and chance.

At 8/20/10 09:05 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:

At 8/20/10 03:54 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 8/20/10 03:00 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:

At 8/20/10 01:01 PM, Nev wrote:

At 8/20/10 09:40 AM, SomaGuye wrote: I think a while back we were talking about ridiculous song lengths. Well I found the winner

Sorry bucko.

I wasn't suprised when I found out it was composed by the same guy who made 4'33", the composition that requires its musicans to not play anything, just stand around and do nothing. That guy is a fucking hack.

Uh, John Cage is a genius and he's done far more than 4'33''. He's not a "hack" because you don't understand it.

I am adding something of value to this thread by posting a reply which does not actually get any point across, but takes up a sizable amount of space. I will do this be describing exactly what I am doing in posting this, which is nothing, and yet by nothing is something. And even though I am sitting mostly still with my mouth closed, you will all in some form or another subconsciously hear my words when you read this post, which makes this post just as evocative and stuff as all these ridiculously long songs that exist purely for the sake of longness kind of the same way that this run on sentence is just the longest thing I can think of to type with out really trying very hard because I'm too focused on listening to Dååth right now.

Woot woot woot woot woot woot woot

A change of subject, I know this band is more hard rock than metal but I'll be seeing a KISS tribute band tonight. Why am I doing this, you may ask? My sister's wanting to go to the local venue tonight and they're on so I'm tagging along for the heck of it. I may not know many of their songs but I'll see what it's like. Hey, at least I have something to do tonight.

You got to loose you mind in Detroit, Rock City !!!

At 8/20/10 09:32 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: 5. Most of his stuff borders on performance art so you can't truly understand it without actually being their at the performance, since most of his work hinges on tonality, improvisation, and chance.

Word to the motherfucker. I've performed a few of that eras Avant-Garde (no Cage, but some Tenney, Reich and Riley) in a couple of guitar orchestra concerts and the way they sound when you're playing them is immense.
I suppose in a way its just like Classical music, I don't really enjoy listening to it on my PC but I can totally see myself being completely engrossed if I ever saw a performance live.

I just want your guys' opinion on ...And Justice For All. All of my metalhead friends say that Justice is the worst of Metallica's first four albums, I think it is their second best. What would you guys say?

At 8/21/10 07:53 PM, Zodir wrote: I just want your guys' opinion on ...And Justice For All. All of my metalhead friends say that Justice is the worst of Metallica's first four albums, I think it is their second best. What would you guys say?

I think it's their best album by far. The Frayed Ends Of Sanity is their best song, in my opinion.

Also, One.

At 8/21/10 07:00 PM, Nev wrote: Word to the motherfucker. I've performed a few of that eras Avant-Garde (no Cage, but some Tenney, Reich and Riley) in a couple of guitar orchestra concerts and the way they sound when you're playing them is immense.
I suppose in a way its just like Classical music, I don't really enjoy listening to it on my PC but I can totally see myself being completely engrossed if I ever saw a performance live.

Are you familiar with Glenn Branca? He was really into the guitar orchestra thing, composing for ensembles of 100 electric guitars. He also did a lot of prepared guitar/tabletop guitar stuff and he was a huge influence on Sonic Youth.

At 8/21/10 08:18 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Are you familiar with Glenn Branca? He was really into the guitar orchestra thing, composing for ensembles of 100 electric guitars. He also did a lot of prepared guitar/tabletop guitar stuff and he was a huge influence on Sonic Youth.

Sadly, no.
That would of been exactly up our street. Was only a short course and a group of mixed ability, and I don't know how difficult his stuff would be for people to pick up, but I imagine those two reasons are why we were never introduced to him.