At 8/6/10 09:36 AM, SomaGuye wrote: Every time I listen to Rust in Peace I just can't get over how damn awesome the riffs are. Especially in stuff like Take no Prisoners and Poison was the Cure, those riffs are pure fucking mayhem, Metallica couldn't pull off anything like that.

I think Megadeth has Dave Mustaine who blows Kirk Hammet out of the water by far. He's such a great guitar player, every time I hear Hangar 18 my jaw drops. That song was the first truly shredding song I ever heard.

I don't get what's so great about Rust In Peace. I like Hangar 18, Take No Prisoners, Tornado of Souls and Rust in Peace...Polaris, and even those songs aren't so great. Everything else is fucking boring. Maybe if you look at it as a milestone for technicality in Thrash Metal it's a little more significant, but treating it as music, it's not so great.

I have listened to Rust in peace to the point of redundance, so I don't like it anymore. I've listened to all Megadeth albums so much that I'm sick of them.

At 8/6/10 01:44 AM, PenisClown wrote: I'd just like to say that I'm dissapointed by the hype Nev made about Dystopia being the best sludge band.

I'm disappointed by you :P.
I <3 Dystopia.

At 8/6/10 08:57 AM, CapnCrunchDaPimp wrote:

At 8/5/10 07:53 PM, AniMetal wrote: I just call mastodon sludge.

They're just metal to me, as they are too hard to define. Not in the least bit do I think of them of sludge though.

Mastodon, High On Fire, Neurosis, Baroness, etc.

High on Fire is more stoner than anything but you could call them sludge I guess.

Mastodon I would definitely call prog/stoner metal, but each of their albums is so significantly different that I also have a hard time defining them. Like Blood Mountain I'd call sludge/death (death tentatively), whereas Crack the Skye is definitely prog.

High On Fire is 100% Stoner metal. They couldn't be anything else, especially considering their frontman's previous role in Sleep.

Can anybody recommend any good Industrial Death along the lines of Red Harvest?

At 8/5/10 10:09 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: on the subject of prog sludge: i checked out baroness. i dig 'em.

dude, really? just recently? Baroness is one of my favorite bands right now. Red Album is fantastic and Blue Record is very very good, but First and Second both have really good songs, too.

At 8/6/10 04:50 AM, Dalnaki wrote: One semi-decent album doesn't redeem a career of commercial mediocrity.

yeah, fuck you.

I think they're among the best. They have a lot of songs that I love from most of their albums. I don't think of any one band being the one best of any subgenre of metal, but I definitely think they are one of the best thrash metal bands formed.

At 8/6/10 08:46 AM, ZimTehRular wrote: hey guys, im really getting into death metal now, ive been listening to almost only dismember and morbid angel for a while,

Dude, check out Disincarnate.

and thanks to the guiy who posted amerijuani.. amerijua.. whatever it was by bongzilla xD

Amerijuanican. Yeah, that's a good album.

Bitches don't know about Morbid Saint.

So, I got Blind Guardian's new album.

It's terrible.

At 8/6/10 05:02 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:

At 8/6/10 04:34 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: So, I got Blind Guardian's new album.

It's terrible.

What's wrong with it?

Well, it starts out great. Sacred Worlds is a brilliant song. There's a great vocal performance by Hansi and the orchestra doesn't seem tacked on at all; it's actually very well-used. It's followed up by Tanelorn (Into the Void), which is pretty good, but nothing amazing. It's like the halfway point between filler and a decent song.

Then we get a generic mid-tempo plodder and two whiny half-ballads before Valkyries. An okay song, I suppose. It's almost sort of progressive, but that doesn't stop it from being boring. What really grabbed my attention was the solo. Not because it was amazing, or anything, but because I swear it's the same one they've been using in every song they've ever written.

After Valkyries there's Control the Divine. An epic little number with good guitar and drum work. I can't call it amazing, but it's one of the better songs on the album.

After yet another whiny half-ballad we get A Voice in the Dark. This is the true highlight of the album. It's fast, agressive and catchy. If you consider Power Thrash a real genre, this is its epitome.

The album finishes with Wheel of Time. It's not really all that bad, but you'd be better off just listening to And Then There Was Silence again.

Maybe saying "terrible" was a bit harsh, upon listening to it again, but it's still not a good album.

At 8/6/10 04:50 AM, Dalnaki wrote:

At 8/6/10 02:01 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: I just can't seem to understand why someone would not think that they are the best Thrash Metal band ever.

One semi-decent album doesn't redeem a career of commercial mediocrity.

Hahahaha! Semi-decent album? Shut up you fucking pathetic scumbag! There is not a single useless note played on that album. All the riffs are fucking crazy! One song from Rust In Peace is enough to put to shame all of your fucking generic Death Metal shit bands you like.

Whatever the fuck you call commercial mediocrity just doesn't exist in Megadeth. Being catchy is never going to make you commercial. And being commercial is not a bad thing. If braindead retards keep using "commercial" as an argument to put down a band, it's just a sing that they don't get it, at all.

All music genres serves a purpose and a band cannot be put down because of it's catchyness.

At 8/6/10 09:38 AM, CapnCrunchDaPimp wrote:

At 8/6/10 09:36 AM, SomaGuye wrote: Every time I listen to Rust in Peace I just can't get over how damn awesome the riffs are. Especially in stuff like Take no Prisoners and Poison was the Cure, those riffs are pure fucking mayhem, Metallica couldn't pull off anything like that.

I think Megadeth has Dave Mustaine who blows Kirk Hammet out of the water by far. He's such a great guitar player, every time I hear Hangar 18 my jaw drops. That song was the first truly shredding song I ever heard.

I like how all the solos in this song are well written and always come at the perfect timing. And while Rust In Peace is my favorite album, Peace Sells, Countdown To Extinction, So Far, So Good...So What! and even some of their most recent work also kick asses :)

The riffs on Rust In Peace just did influence a whole genre. If you want to pretend that other Thrash Metal bands didn't take influences from songs like Take No Prisoners, you are an hypocritical bitch :P

At 8/6/10 12:58 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:

At 8/6/10 02:01 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: I've just gotten back into Megadeth and listenning to Holy Wars... The Punishment Due, Hangar 18, Take No Prisoners and all the tracks on Rust In Peace, I just can't seem to understand why someone would not think that they are the best Thrash Metal band ever.

They're not the best thrash band ever.

Ok thanks, now I see the light.

At 8/6/10 06:11 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: If braindead retards keep using "commercial" as an argument to put down a band, it's just a sing that they don't get it, at all.

I recall you using it against Lady Gaga a good few pages back now.
Not that I disagree with you but hypocrisy will not do :).

At 8/6/10 06:11 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: here is not a single useless note played on that album. All the riffs are fucking crazy! One song from Rust In Peace is enough to put to shame all of your fucking generic Death Metal shit bands you like.

You can think what you want. If dickriding Megadeth without exploring metal any further is what you wanna do, go ahead fanboi. Megadeth isn't even a top tier band.

At 8/6/10 06:15 PM, Nev wrote:

At 8/6/10 06:11 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: If braindead retards keep using "commercial" as an argument to put down a band, it's just a sing that they don't get it, at all.

I recall you using it against Lady Gaga a good few pages back now.
Not that I disagree with you but hypocrisy will not do :).

Well, "commercial" is somewhat applicable in Lady Gaga's case, to be fair.

At 8/6/10 06:20 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Well, "commercial" is somewhat applicable in Lady Gaga's case, to be fair.

Well yes, she's a Pop musician. But as Duff said, you can't use "comercial" to put people down :P.
'All music genres serves a purpose and a band cannot be put down because of it's catchyness.'

I only called Megadeth a commercial band because they're dickrided by practically everyone. Even people who don't like metal.

At 8/6/10 06:30 PM, Dalnaki wrote: I only called Megadeth a commercial band because they're dickrided by practically everyone. Even people who don't like metal.

In my experience, most Megadeth fans are either pretentious as all hell or obnoxious fucks who hate Metallica.

At 8/6/10 06:20 PM, Dalnaki wrote:

You can think what you want. If dickriding Megadeth without exploring metal any further is what you wanna do, go ahead fanboi. Megadeth isn't even a top tier band.

If you think that having a billion bands in your libraby is having musical knowledge, than you are missing the whole point.

I have a lot of musical knowledge by the way. I might not know all the bands you will list, but I know what makes a good riff good and what makes a song awesome. By the way, I'm not much into Megadeth anyway. I listen to much more Black, Death and Folk Metal than any Megadeth album. So you can't really call me a fanboy only because I think they are a great Thrash Metal band (shouldn't have said the best. I still think they are great).

At 8/6/10 06:30 PM, Dalnaki wrote: I only called Megadeth a commercial band because they're dickrided by practically everyone. Even people who don't like metal.

Like... all the bands of the big four? Seriously dude...

At 8/6/10 06:42 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I have a lot of musical knowledge by the way. I might not know all the bands you will list, but I know what makes a good riff good and what makes a song awesome. By the way, I'm not much into Megadeth anyway. I listen to much more Black, Death and Folk Metal than any Megadeth album. So you can't really call me a fanboy only because I think they are a great Thrash Metal band (shouldn't have said the best. I still think they are great).

No worries man, I was just being a dick. I realize that now, and I apologize. Rust in Peace is a solid album, but nothing super amazing now or anything imo. Now listen to this and tell me that doesn't rule.

At 8/6/10 06:30 PM, Dalnaki wrote: I only called Megadeth a commercial band because they're dickrided by practically everyone. Even people who don't like metal.

Like... all the bands of the big four? Seriously dude...

Exactly.

At 8/6/10 06:54 PM, Dalnaki wrote:

No worries man, I was just being a dick. I realize that now, and I apologize. Rust in Peace is a solid album, but nothing super amazing now or anything imo. Now listen to this and tell me that doesn't rule.

No need to apologize... I've been a dick to you too.

And that song by Morbid Saint is fucking badass :) I wish I could still download stuff from the internet but I don't have uTorrent anymore and can't install it cause I'm using my father's computer. And I checked to find it on eBay. Got two results. One is at $75.70 and the other is at $71... Fuck...

I love Thrash Metal that sounds like this. It's thrash, but with some DM in it. Love it :)

At 8/6/10 08:01 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:

At 8/6/10 06:11 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Whatever the fuck you call commercial mediocrity just doesn't exist in Megadeth.

http://www.metal-archives.com/release.ph p?id=671

Haha! True :P
Dunno what to say about that though...

I think it was just a failed attempt at... I dunno what. This album really just sounds like nothing. It's not more commercial than any of the albums they released before this one. It's just... bad...

Just got my customized mousepad in the mail today, using this logo. Don't feel like taking a pic, so here's the logo (man it's fucking awesome):

I finally got Tides - Resurface. Tides is a good post-rockish sludge band.

At 8/5/10 11:30 PM, Idiosyncratic wrote: For you sludge guys, check out this band Sons of Tonatiuh.

I like this.

Also, I just checked out a sludge band called Javelina that's pretty good. And there's this band, Black Math Horseman, that sounds very interesting. I might get their album. MA has them down as doom metal, but from what I heard, I dunno about that.

As for Morbid Saint, I'm gonna look for their album, along with some Coroner albums.

At 8/6/10 10:04 PM, mothballs wrote: Just got my customized mousepad in the mail today, using this logo. Don't feel like taking a pic, so here's the logo (man it's fucking awesome):

What's so awesome about Behemoth? I would like to know why their fans like them. I've always seen them as a band that plays (Blackened) Death Metal, but acts like a black metal band. I've always seen them as posers because of that... The kind of band that just wouldn't get that much attention and that much love if they were not always taking kvlt pictures of themselves. I dunno how to say it. It just seems that a lot of their fans like them because of the image and because of the "acting".

Their music is not horrible though. I listen to a few of their tracks and I'd say they are kind of good. What do you guys think?

Just came back from the Cynic show. I was very impressed with their life sound, very cohesive and tight musicianship. I also found out about a band called Dysrhythmia, an instrumental death metal band that plays Gorguts-like death metal. Intronaut was pretty good too, but the main vocalist/guitarist was really fucking high, so he screwed up his guitar parts a few times, but most people were having too m uch fun to notice.

At 8/7/10 01:40 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: What do you guys think?

Generic to the point of being terrible. Just mediocre stuff.

At 8/6/10 03:36 PM, Dalnaki wrote: Bitches don't know about Morbid Saint.

Spectrum of Death is pretty much unmatched in intensity compared to just about every metal album I've ever heard. Fucking brilliant album.

At 8/7/10 01:57 AM, Idiosyncratic wrote: I also found out about a band called Dysrhythmia, an instrumental death metal band that plays Gorguts-like death metal.

really? I don't remember Pretest or Barriers and Passages sounding like that. They must have changed their style.

At 8/6/10 06:40 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:
In my experience, most Megadeth fans are either pretentious as all hell or obnoxious fucks who hate Metallica.

Well you'd better come outside more, because I haven't met a single person being 'pretentious as hell' or that hates metallica (being a megadeth fan that is.) 90% of the metallica/megadeth fans these days hardly know that Mustaine was in metallica once. (Yes the so called 'poser'scene in belgium is very strong).
But that's just to state my point that megadeth fans aren't divided into 2 groups.
(Surely there are the fags who fit inside your categories perfectly, but i haven't met one yet.)

At 8/7/10 01:40 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 8/6/10 10:04 PM, mothballs wrote: Just got my customized mousepad in the mail today, using this logo. Don't feel like taking a pic, so here's the logo (man it's fucking awesome):

What's so awesome about Behemoth? I would like to know why their fans like them. I've always seen them as a band that plays (Blackened) Death Metal, but acts like a black metal band. I've always seen them as posers because of that... The kind of band that just wouldn't get that much attention and that much love if they were not always taking kvlt pictures of themselves. I dunno how to say it. It just seems that a lot of their fans like them because of the image and because of the "acting".

Their music is not horrible though. I listen to a few of their tracks and I'd say they are kind of good. What do you guys think?

I like Behemoth a lot, because they were one of the first black metal bands I got into. Their first three albums are all black metal, so they aren't really posers per se, because they did start out as a black metal band and evolved into a blackened death metal band. I always liked their songs for their intensity and some unique stuff they do. A sitar in a death metal song? Hell yeah. It's just my personal opinion, but hey, I like them.

got Morbid Saint - Spectrum of Death, Coroner - No More Color, and Coroner - Mental Vortex. will listen later. Thanks for bringing up Morbid Saint, Dal.