At 8/3/10 03:32 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 8/3/10 07:15 AM, ZpLiNtEh wrote:

I like everything and anything that is good, Jazz, Metal, Classical, whatever. There is ever a few good core bands. But ADTR is pathetic.

I think A day to remember is an alright band. They have some songs that are catchy and put me in a good mood, even though there's nothing revolutionary about their music. I can understand why some people like them a lot.
I'd rather listen to them than any generic neo-thrash band.

At 8/2/10 03:50 PM, Dalnaki wrote: Wert wert wert breakdown wert wert wet. Need I say more? Honestly, it's kind of sad to see that you guys don't get why BDM sucks. Oh yeah, technical death metal sucks too.

is there anything you actually like? I've not seen you praise anything anyone has talked about

At 8/3/10 11:21 PM, Lost-Thought wrote: is there anything you actually like? I've not seen you praise anything anyone has talked about

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHit2DzNJ VU

At 8/3/10 07:52 AM, SomaGuye wrote: I disagree. iwrestledabearonce have some good talent, if they'd just give up the shitty scenecore writing style they could be a good band.

Talent as it applies to playing an instrument is only part of the equation. It says nothing about the bands capabilities when it comes to style and creativity. That "shitty scenecore writing style" is their writing style. If they were to make anything that wasn't their style it would be somebody else's. That they enjoy and would like to produce that kind of thing doesn't bode well for anything they produce that might lean more towards "extreme metal".

At 8/3/10 08:15 AM, ZpLiNtEh wrote: elitist prick.

God dammit. You know part of the reason I typed up like 20 paragraphs trying to explain why this is ridiculous is so I wouldn't have to hear this bullshit in here ever again.

At 8/3/10 09:36 AM, ZpLiNtEh wrote: For example I hate R'n'B because it requires no talent whatsoever

Yet by your reasoning it must make your sister and friends much more "open minded" than you, at least when it comes to RNB, right? No. It just means you expect different things from your music than they do.

See what I'm getting at? I'm not trying to come off as an arrogant know-it-all, even if it may seem that way.

Well the reasons and extent to which people might find an inordinate amount of pride offensive are completely different but...

my taste in music is more widespread than yours

There's a definite air of superiority in the tone and implication of this. You think it advantageous to be able to enjoy more things but the very reasons for which you likely enjoy them don't interest Dalnaki so they ultimately mean nothing to him.

At 8/3/10 03:32 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: There is elitism and there is another thing called... "having taste".

Everyone has taste. Even elitists.

Chugcore, thugcore, breecore, crunckcore and all the ridiculous other "core" genres, are mostly all pathetic and boring uncreative genres...

They're pathetic and boring unless you enjoy the genre's these styles pull from, in which case you probably find some merit in less complex metalish sounding compositional sameyness, or what is 'safe' or otherwise uncreative, yes.

A lot of metalheads, like myself, believe that core is an insult to metal.

I don't even consider it as being in league with metal so it couldn't possibly be an insult to it like much of Groove and Goth are. Saying it's an insult to metal is implying that it has some effect or place in it, it implies a level of association which I frankly don't agree with.

It's antithetical to what I see and have always seen metals musical goals to be which lies somewhere in an evolution of rock that values compositional complexity, and/or extremity in some form or another. Which is pretty vague and simplistic but I don't exactly have a background in music theory so I reach my limits pretty quickly.

Core is basically a genre that takes from others, make it more simple, more commercial, more radio friendly.

While you may be on to something with simplicity, I don't see anything wrong with radio friendliness. There's a lot of metal that I would consider both good and reasonably radio friendly. Commercialization is of course bullshit.

I know people who listen to BlessTheFall, As I Lay Dying, August Burns Red and all that core music and who still believe, even though I told them countless times how wrong they are, that they listen to metal music.

I do too. They of course reject the idea that you would call their metal "false" because their scope is so small that their metal must therefore be "true". It's a nonsensical notion for them that what they base their entire knowledge of metal on wouldn't even be considered metal to someone else. It's just best not to talk analysis with people who have no interest in the topic or analyzing period. It usually leads out and straight back to the start with the person who disagrees and knows less about it left with an even stronger sense of validation than before.

It's been almost 2 years since I signed in to my newgrounds account. What's been going on in this thread?

So I haven't really been listening to any metal recently. Can anyone fill me in on what's going on in the technical death metal scene?

At 8/4/10 02:28 AM, omfgItsZoidy wrote: It's been almost 2 years since I signed in to my newgrounds account. What's been going on in this thread?

So I haven't really been listening to any metal recently. Can anyone fill me in on what's going on in the technical death metal scene?

Good songwriting and tasteful technicality have been swept aside for dime a dozen Necrophagist clones and an emphasis, and FOCUS on technicality. Songwriting, riffs, guitar tone, and pretty much everything that makes a song interesting have all been stripped away so they can be super technical. Yawn.

At 8/3/10 08:12 PM, Dalnaki wrote:

Meh, I dislike metalcore because it's basically watered down Gothenburg (which also sucks) with some added boy band vocals. The fact that it's a commercial "genre" makes me like it even less. Not to mention that arguing with people about is useless. If they like that shit, I'll think they're gay. I won't try to "convert" them or anything as you guys so "generously do."

By the way, it's not an insult to metal. It's an insult to everyone's intelligence.

I also like how Gothenburg bands tend to fall into the metalcore trap, these days. Like Soilwork did.

About that thing you said on commercial music. It really doesn't matter if you like it or not. But commercial music deserves to exist. Music with sing along chorus and very catchy parts is not to be condamned and treated as shit. Music has to appeal to the feelings and singing along with your friends to your favorite melodic death metal songs is not something that should be dissed. That kind of music serves a purpose and is not automaticaly bad.

And about that thing I said on my few friends who like As I Lay Dying and the such... I don't care if they like core. I only hate it when they say it's metal.

At 8/3/10 08:49 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:

At 8/3/10 04:15 PM, hypersomniax wrote: This band's bassist fucking blows my mind.

His bass is tuned too high.

Now this bassist blows my mind, even though I don't like the band that much.

Origin is badass. They are in my top 3 of favorite death metal bands :)

At 8/4/10 02:38 AM, Dalnaki wrote:

At 8/4/10 02:28 AM, omfgItsZoidy wrote: It's been almost 2 years since I signed in to my newgrounds account. What's been going on in this thread?

So I haven't really been listening to any metal recently. Can anyone fill me in on what's going on in the technical death metal scene?

Good songwriting and tasteful technicality have been swept aside for dime a dozen Necrophagist clones and an emphasis, and FOCUS on technicality. Songwriting, riffs, guitar tone, and pretty much everything that makes a song interesting have all been stripped away so they can be super technical. Yawn.

Shut the freakin fuck up !!! Why don't you fucking get it ?!? Nobody cares about your fucking rants on every single genre. You don't like Tech Death? FINE !!! WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THAT ALREADY !!!
Everybody has been fucking telling you to quit being a fucking whinny bitch.
What the fuck do you think when you type newgrounds.com in your browser? "Mmmh, why not pay a visit to the Metal Hell, these guys are probably missing right now. I forgot to unload a fucking dumpster of shit on these guys favorite music this week."

Seriously? Is there anything you actually like? Could you focus on things you like instead of constantly bringing down everybody else's music?

At 8/4/10 02:28 AM, omfgItsZoidy wrote: It's been almost 2 years since I signed in to my newgrounds account. What's been going on in this thread?

So I haven't really been listening to any metal recently. Can anyone fill me in on what's going on in the technical death metal scene?

I would higly recommand you listen to the album Antithesis by Origin. They are technical, brutal, they have one of the best song-writting you will ever find in Death Metal. They are very Melodic for such a brutal band and very catchy. While I really like all of their work, I think Antithesis is their best album so far. Songs you should definitely check are The Aftermath, Finite and Antithesis.

Another band you should check out is Blood Red Throne. They do not play super fast wank riffs, but you will definitely like how they work on the guitars and bass. My favorite album is Altered Genesis. Can't name any songs you should start with, cause this album is just awesome. Probably my favorite Death Metal record.

Blotted Science, while they are not really Death Metal, have enough DM influences to be named amongs these bands. There is not much I can say about them. They have awesome bass, awesome guitar, awesome drums. That's all you need to know about them. They will eat your soul !!!

I just started listenning to a band named Gorod. Their most recent record, Process Of A New Decline is very good :). Disavow your God, Programmers of decline, Diverted Logic and Rebirth of senses... are my personnal favorites on the album.

Fleshgod Apocalypse is another very good band. Not my favorite, but they have a very intense and technical style in their music. I don't know them very good though. But from what I've heard, they are great.

I second Sensey's wisenessness.

Instead of bullshit, I come bearing awesome.

Physical evidance that the art of METAL DRUMMING is just fantastic and orchestratable. It's on a rhythmic level never before bettered by music of past times. Back in the good old late 1700's and 1800's music was vastly more sophistocated than our most popular forms of R'n'B and modern rock and punk, which is strange but true. Of course you could argue that technical death metal is more complex than classical music but you'd be wrong. See, the art of orchestration has to consider all the other instruments, and contrast and techniques to create tone colour combinations and dynamic shifts, musical motifs and how they shift around between brass, woodwind and strings. Tech death is two instruments (Guitar and bass, it's the same shit with a different stink), a drummer and grunts. But extreme drumming is on a level of art never before proceded by a musical instrument. The art of percussion is at such a level because of metal music. Sure jazz was tricky but not this tricky. It's orchestratability is demonstrated rather nicely in this video. Very enjoyable.

The art of percussion has improved with time. So it deserves some respect. I guess guitar playing is better now too. Huzzah for the future!

TLDR = I'm a high western art music student =)))))

This one's fucking cool too.

The cunt's like Portnoy but like the slightest fraction of a bit better.

At 8/4/10 09:28 AM, PenisClown wrote: The cunt's like Portnoy but like the slightest fraction of a bit better.

Regardless of his talent, he's got a fucking dope set.

I wanniwanniwanniwanniwannit!

At 8/4/10 09:14 AM, PenisClown wrote: I come bearing awesome.

haha wow That was awesome.

At 8/3/10 11:48 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote: At 8/3/10 11:21 PM, Lost-Thought wrote:

At 8/2/10 03:50 PM, Dalnaki wrote: Wert wert wert breakdown wert wert wet. Need I say more? Honestly, it's kind of sad to see that you guys don't get why BDM sucks. Oh yeah, technical death metal sucks too.

is there anything you actually like? I've not seen you praise anything anyone has talked about

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHit2DzNJ VU

eh?

Were you answering on Dalnaki's behalf or are you him?

I need more characters in my post so I'm typing this sentence here.

At 8/4/10 09:14 AM, PenisClown wrote: Paragraph.

That was oddly insightful.

TLDR = I'm a high western art music student =)))))

Huh. No shit? It shows.

At 8/3/10 11:21 PM, Lost-Thought wrote: is there anything you actually like? I've not seen you praise anything anyone has talked about

Oddly enough, I've not had a single argument with Dalnaki and he's actually recommended me some Manilla Road albums which I still need to check out. I only have Open the Gates so far which was the only album my sister could find to get for my birthday.

At 8/4/10 10:38 AM, greensucksbluerules wrote: Also, somebody wrote a negative review, and the website removed it because fanboys cried over it.

That's bullshit! Nothing is safe from negative reviews and they are complete wusses for taking down that review just because of the backlash they got.

At 8/4/10 10:55 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: Were you answering on Dalnaki's behalf or are you him?

I was answering on his behalf. I think it'd be weird if I got into an argument with myself.

He doesn't hate everything, so I think some of you guys are just blowing shit out of proportion. It's just like when Ghoul or Ponos went through their first stages here. People flipped their shit on them and now they're perfectly fine because we've gotten used to their personalities (minus Alex since he's disappeared again). Yeah, I flipped my shit on him too, but now its just funny and in retrospect it is as well. There have been a lot worse people here than anyone who has posted recently. I don't know why we get so pissed at him. At least he knows his shit.

And Duff, tech death is shit.

And Duff, brutal death is shit.

And Duff, voulez-vous coucher avec mois?

At 8/4/10 01:49 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote:

And Duff, voulez-vous coucher avec mois?

It's not really as funny since he actually speaks French.

VOULEZ VOUZ.

*ba nanananana*

AH-HA
AIN'T NO BIG DECISION!

*ba nananana*

AH-HA
YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO!

LA QUESTION C'EST VOULEZ VOUZ!

At 8/4/10 09:14 AM, PenisClown wrote:

The art of percussion has improved with time. So it deserves some respect. I guess guitar playing is better now too. Huzzah for the future!

Absolutely! Whenever I watch a Metal Drummer play, I can't help but to stare. These guys are amazing musicians.

im really getting into morbid angels altars of madness, is there any other death metal bands/albums i would like?

At 8/3/10 11:48 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHit2DzNJ VU

I can't say how much I hate it, I don't understand why do they even have guitars playing... seriously... I like Gorgoroth, Burzum, Mayhem, Armagedda and Blood Red Fog for example. But I can't understand bands like Conqueror, it's all about drums sounding like Machine Guns, and have guitars making noise. I even tried to listen to another song and I felt like I was listening to the same song. If they play something like Black Noise Metal or something... then scratch what I said...

Also, other day I was with a friend and she showed me Ishtar, and really... it was the most boring piece of shit I've ever heard, it was like 2 or 3 chords, played over and over again really FAST! Yeah! Raw! They're so raw, I would like to congratulate them, they suck. And the vocalist... damn... he has no vocal talent... And the drums, well... boring machine guns...

Yes I'm pretty angreh today.

At 8/4/10 06:35 PM, ZimTehRular wrote: im really getting into morbid angels altars of madness, is there any other death metal bands/albums i would like?

I really like Deicide, who are great. Of course, there is also Death, pretty much one of the greatest bands ever. And Obituary is pretty good.

At 8/4/10 06:35 PM, ZimTehRular wrote: im really getting into morbid angels altars of madness, is there any other death metal bands/albums i would like?

Bolt Thrower - first two albums
Death - First album
Obituary - First album
Malevolent Creation - first two albums
Dismember - first album
Entombed - first two albums

That pretty much covers the basics, and all I'll give you for now.

At 8/4/10 07:36 PM, Dalnaki wrote:

At 8/4/10 06:35 PM, ZimTehRular wrote: im really getting into morbid angels altars of madness, is there any other death metal bands/albums i would like?

Bolt Thrower - first two albums
Death - First album
Obituary - First album
Malevolent Creation - first two albums
Dismember - first album
Entombed - first two albums

That pretty much covers the basics, and all I'll give you for now.

thanks, ill check em out, do u think id also like tribulation? i just heard one of their songs and it was just what i liked, beyond the horror

At 8/4/10 01:49 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote:

At 8/4/10 10:55 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: Were you answering on Dalnaki's behalf or are you him?

I was answering on his behalf. I think it'd be weird if I got into an argument with myself.

lol sorry. It just looked like you meant to post as him but were signed into the wrong account.

At 8/4/10 07:01 PM, TheUnwisePoet wrote: Also, other day I was with a friend and she showed me Ishtar, and really... it was the most boring piece of shit I've ever heard

I thought you were talking about the movie for a minute.

At 8/4/10 06:35 PM, ZimTehRular wrote: im really getting into morbid angels altars of madness, is there any other death metal bands/albums i would like?

Disincarnate

At 8/4/10 09:40 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 8/4/10 06:35 PM, ZimTehRular wrote:

is there any other death metal bands/albums i would like?

Disincarnate

and Edge of Sanity. I'm listening to Crimson right now and its pretty good.

At 8/4/10 09:40 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: lol sorry. It just looked like you meant to post as him but were signed into the wrong account.

I've got two alts. I've only used one here but the one I've used here is obviously me. Haha.

Also, FUCK MOSQUITOES.

At 8/4/10 07:36 PM, Dalnaki wrote:

At 8/4/10 06:35 PM, ZimTehRular wrote: im really getting into morbid angels altars of madness, is there any other death metal bands/albums i would like?

Bolt Thrower - first two albums
Death - First album
Obituary - First album
Malevolent Creation - first two albums
Dismember - first album
Entombed - first two albums

You know what, these will help me out whenever I want more death metal albums. However, for death metal, I'm just going to focus on the remaining Death albums for the time beingbut that won't be anytime soon since I'll have to get more Bathory albums as well as anything else that I'll be seeing at Heidenfest.

Which one is the best Dark Tranquillity album?

Also, Ophthalamia rules.

At 8/5/10 07:17 AM, AllMightyBruce wrote: I've got two alts. I've only used one here but the one I've used here is obviously me. Haha.

Also, FUCK MOSQUITOES.

Hell yeah man. I go outside just to take a break at work or watch the dogs outside and relax and ten minutes later I'm all ate up by those flesh hungry, blood thirsty fuckers. All the rain and humidity made them potent this year. They're terrible. It's ridiculous. I wanna torch em all and scorch them with a flamethrower or something.

At 8/4/10 07:36 PM, Dalnaki wrote:

At 8/4/10 06:35 PM, ZimTehRular wrote: im really getting into morbid angels altars of madness, is there any other death metal bands/albums i would like?

Bolt Thrower - first two albums
Death - First album
Obituary - First album
Malevolent Creation - first two albums
Dismember - first album
Entombed - first two albums

That pretty much covers the basics, and all I'll give you for now.

right, of all those bands and albums, ive only listened to dismember, like an everflowing stream, and i love it! i listened to a couple of bolt throwers songs and didnt like them, however, and they were on the first album..