At 7/30/10 04:48 AM, Oppugnant wrote: I've paid $160 to see Iron Maiden and Metallica tickets are costing me the same.

But that's in Australian Dollars, which is worth about as much as a peso.

Yup, $150 for Metallica tickets, most I've paid so far for a show.

Soundwave looks really shit this year as well. Hope Anthrax comes out again.

Most expensive ticket I've ever bought is 40 quid for Metallica.

Are Suffocation any good? They're playing near me in a couple of days.

Considering I've not been to many shows, I'm less likely to have come across an expensive show as the rest. The most expensive was probably Maiden but that was my 18th birthday present so the most so far is only Opeth for £25 or so.

At 7/29/10 02:33 PM, batman64 wrote:

At 7/29/10 02:23 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Yessss, awesome. Prepare for the metal-archives assholes to get all upset over it and give it bad reviews for no reason.

I have said it before and will say it again.
FUCK THE CRITICS!!!

That's the spirit! It helps a lot when you don't care much about the naysayers. However, when it comes to reviewing and criticism, if there's an album that's hated amongst MANY, I will be weary about it.

I forgot to mention this before but Rhapsody are going to release a 35 minute song on their upcoming EP which will be released in mid October. I was very pleased with their latest album and I sure hope this doesn't disappoint me. Hell, a 30+ minute track by Rhapsody MUST be epic!

In other news, I took the free mouse mat offer ArtsCow are doing and the design I choose is Slough Feg's Traveller. I can't see Slough Feg putting mouse mats on their merchandise anytime soon so this is a great opportunity!

At 7/30/10 05:39 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: soundwave looks really shit this year as well. Hope Anthrax comes out again.

Well, The Sword is going to be playing, which almost reason enough for me to go.

Wouldn't mind seeing All That Remains either.

The rumoured bands are almost unreal.

At 7/29/10 12:58 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

Every single of their albums has a unique sound while staying in the specific type of sound you will only find on an Origin album :)

On the album Antithesis the best three tracks are Finite, Antithesis and The Aftermath. If you ever get a chance to listen to some stuff from Echoes Of Decimation, I would suggest you listen to Reciprocal, Endless Cure and The Burner. These three tracks are very short, but will kick your ass like no other band could.

Way ahead of you there. I heard Antithesis on Pandora and went and got all their albums. As soon as I get some money I'm gonna go buy hard copies.
I fucking LOVE how technical they are. It's like every one of their songs was written using a scientific calculator and a super-computer, then like brutalified.

\m/,

At 7/30/10 08:14 AM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Are Suffocation any good?

Do you even have to ask? You should be ashamed.

At 7/30/10 03:12 PM, Dalnaki wrote:

At 7/30/10 08:14 AM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Are Suffocation any good?

Do you even have to ask? You should be ashamed.

Forget I said anything. After looking at your Last.FM, I decided it would be better if you didn't go.

At 7/30/10 03:15 PM, Dalnaki wrote:

At 7/30/10 03:12 PM, Dalnaki wrote:

At 7/30/10 08:14 AM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Are Suffocation any good?

Do you even have to ask? You should be ashamed.

Forget I said anything. After looking at your Last.FM, I decided it would be better if you didn't go.

hey wait i thought you said you were gonna stop being a cock to people

At 7/30/10 03:18 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: hey wait i thought you said you were gonna stop being a cock to people

Suffocation blows. Let's just go with that.

At 7/30/10 12:51 PM, Bahamut wrote: In other news, I took the free mouse mat offer ArtsCow are doing and the design I choose is Slough Feg's Traveller. I can't see Slough Feg putting mouse mats on their merchandise anytime soon so this is a great opportunity!

Mine arrived today. Surprisingly good quality for a free mouse pad from Hong Kong.

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4611/
451628565001.jpg

At 7/30/10 03:23 PM, Dalnaki wrote: Suffocation blows. Let's just go with that.

Hahaha

So, Google tells me that Suffocation pretty much pioneered Death Metal.

Yep, I'm a dumbass.

At 7/30/10 06:34 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: So, Google tells me that Suffocation pretty much pioneered Death Metal.

Yep, I'm a dumbass.

Not a pioneer of DM, just a big name in NYDM. ( I am aware that NYDM refers to a specific style of DM in the NY scene, not just a blanket term for all bands from NY. Though many of you probably aren't.) They're also the band that deathcore bands rip off the most. Except you know, they're actually good. Unlike Devourment. Fuck Devourment.

Go see suffocation, they're great.

Also, I was wearing an Opeth shirt to a party the other day and someone seriously tried to argue with me that Veil Of Maya is better. LOL WUT?

At 7/30/10 06:00 PM, Madnessfreak13 wrote: Hey can i retry my application please

Go ahead :)

At 7/30/10 06:34 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: So, Google tells me that Suffocation pretty much pioneered Death Metal.

Yep, I'm a dumbass.

Like we didn't already knew about that...

I've been looking for the EP From Which Of This Oak by Agalloch on eBay and I can only find a vinyl but I would like to get the cd version. Anybody knows a good website from which I could buy albums of different musical genres? Being able to pay with PayPal is a must.

Agalloch - This Old Cabin

If you guys never listenned to that piece of awesomeness, you should do it as soon as you can.

sorry, i disappeared for a while again, i keep forgetting to check up on metal hell, but yer, how is everyone who i havent seen in ages?

At 7/30/10 08:25 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I've been looking for the EP From Which Of This Oak by Agalloch on eBay and I can only find a vinyl but I would like to get the cd version. Anybody knows a good website from which I could buy albums of different musical genres? Being able to pay with PayPal is a must.

If you really want it that badly, just download it, burn it to a CD, and color in the artwork with a marker.

At 7/30/10 09:20 PM, Dalnaki wrote:

If you really want it that badly, just download it, burn it to a CD, and color in the artwork with a marker.

Already did download the album, but I don't like to download from artists like Agalloch.
And real music fans try to buy albums to support their artists.

And I really don't care about all the theories of other guys who say "It doesn't matter if you steal music because artists do not even get a big percentage of the money made from album sellings."

The guys still need to get labels to sign them so they can produce their music, so if you are not stealing from the artists, you are stealing from the labels, who are making it possible for these artists to reach you with their music. Anyway, even if the artists would only get 2% of the 20 bucks I spent on one album, I still would consider that you are stealing from people you should respect more for all they bring to you. Plus... stealing is not defined by how much you steal, but by the act of stealing.

musicians get more money from touring and merch B)

At 7/30/10 09:55 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: musicians get more money from touring and merch B)

The labels are very important in the process. Labels are the link between the musicians and you. If labels get all that money stolen from them, how can you expect them to keep doing their job.

I didn't buy every single track I have on my iPod, but I still can't stand people who have over 6000 tracks in their library and not a single cd in their unexistant cd rack.

I don't care if I'm stealing from an "artist" by "pirating" their music. I'm not going to rationalize it, I just don't care. You can't put a dollar sign on music. Did you know most musicians rarely make big money off their albums, and have to work other jobs, even if they're signed? So don't act like spending 5-20 bucks makes a difference. Not to mention that piracy isn't stealing, because stealing removes the original, while piracy makes a copy of it for personal use. But enough of that, it'll look like I do care.

At 7/31/10 12:20 AM, Madnessfreak13 wrote: Alright boys 10 bands

Some of those bands aren't metal per say, but it's not a bad list at all. It's not up to me though, so I really don't know why I even post responses to people's bands anyways.

At 7/30/10 10:04 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I didn't buy every single track I have on my iPod, but I still can't stand people who have over 6000 tracks in their library and not a single cd in their unexistant cd rack.

what about burning CDs for people? how do you feel about that?

At 7/31/10 12:19 AM, Dalnaki wrote: I don't care if I'm stealing from an "artist" by "pirating" their music. I'm not going to rationalize it, I just don't care. You can't put a dollar sign on music. Did you know most musicians rarely make big money off their albums, and have to work other jobs, even if they're signed? So don't act like spending 5-20 bucks makes a difference. Not to mention that piracy isn't stealing, because stealing removes the original, while piracy makes a copy of it for personal use. But enough of that, it'll look like I do care.

So you obviously don't respect music... And like I said, who gets the money, doesn't really matter when we are talking about Metal music an basically everything that isn't Pop music. Because then, you would be stealing money from labels who are bringing the music to you.

And about that last thing you said "So don't act like spending 5-20 bucks makes a difference." This is the most ridiculous statement of your post. It's like saying "Why should I recycle my bottle? It's not like I'm going to change the world if I do." It's together that we make a difference. And while there is still people buying their music, we are still, all together making a difference.
Plus, I like the feeling of holding the album in your hands, having a piece of the work of your artists in your hands with the booklet, the case, the artwork and the cd.

While there is a difference between stealing and piracy, the artists and the label can really see the difference between holding and not holding that money in their hands.

At 7/31/10 03:31 AM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 7/30/10 10:04 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I didn't buy every single track I have on my iPod, but I still can't stand people who have over 6000 tracks in their library and not a single cd in their unexistant cd rack.

what about burning CDs for people? how do you feel about that?

As I told you before, I do not buy every single album I want to have in my Library. A lot of stuff is downloaded from the Internet and while I know I shouldn't, I still do it, cause I really like music and I need to learn some new stuff all the time. So the compromise I made with myself, is that I would buy some merchs or cds from my favorite artists. So if you go on my Last.fm page and check the first few artists I have there...

I have two Agalloch albums, but gave one to my girlfriend. I have the one and only Blotted Science album. I have the album Bergtatt by Ulver and I bought two posters. I have one album by Blood Red Throne and one t-shirt. I have 4 albums by Kalmah. I have three Origin albums. I'm still trying to get my hands on one album of Benighted and I can't find If These Trees Could Talk's albums. If you keep on going from this point on... I own stuff made by Abigail Williams, The Human Abstract, Nightrage, All That Remains, Symphony X, Equillibrium, Sonata Arctica and so on. From my top 30 artists there is only 4 artists from which I didn't buy anything. Oh well, I did see Ultra Vomit live though.

To answer your question, I don't usually burn cds to people who don't respect artists. My example is quite simple. My girlfriend doesn't have a lot of money and she has to pay all her stuff by herself, she doesn't buy a lot of music, but she does have something like 10 albums at home. I would burn a cd for her. On the other hand... I have a friend who never spent a single fucking penny on a music album, but he buys so much expensive clothes... spends all his money on alchool and shit.... I would never burn a cd for him... Anyway... he's a core-fag... so he doesn't care about my music cause it lacks breakdowns and clean vocals.

At 7/31/10 12:20 AM, Madnessfreak13 wrote: Alright boys 10 bands

1. Iron Maiden
2. Motorhead
3. Metallica
4. Black Sabbath
5. Judas Priest
6. Norma Jean
7. White Zombie
8. Alice Cooper
9. Ozzy Osbourne
10. Slayer

All the list is ok, except for Norma and Alice Cooper. Norma Jean is metalcore and while Alice Cooper has somewhat influenced Metal, his music is still classified as rock.

So that's 8 bands, you will need to have two more. Any suggestions wanted?

Blind Guardian's new album arrived through the post today (2 days prior to UK release) and I'm very pleased with what I've heard. I think I know my album of 2010. :)

At 7/30/10 09:20 PM, Dalnaki wrote:

At 7/30/10 08:25 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I've been looking for the EP From Which Of This Oak by Agalloch on eBay and I can only find a vinyl but I would like to get the cd version. Anybody knows a good website from which I could buy albums of different musical genres? Being able to pay with PayPal is a must.

If you really want it that badly, just download it, burn it to a CD, and color in the artwork with a marker.

I would only agree with this advice if the EP is extremely rare and seeing it on eBay would go at least £50. I want to avoid downloading as much as I can but if the albums are impossible to get, I'm left with no other choice. The only band who I'm struggling to get some of their albums right now is X JAPAN. I can get some of their albums but not all of them.

At 7/30/10 10:04 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 7/30/10 09:55 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: musicians get more money from touring and merch B)

The labels are very important in the process. Labels are the link between the musicians and you. If labels get all that money stolen from them, how can you expect them to keep doing their job.

I didn't buy every single track I have on my iPod, but I still can't stand people who have over 6000 tracks in their library and not a single cd in their unexistant cd rack.

OK, this has brought up a point I have been wanting to ask for a while. What about downloading music legally from places like iTunes and the Zune store? Do you classify that as ownership or not?

If I really really like an artist, I'll go out and buy an album or two of theirs, or even aim to get their whole discography if I'm really into them. Though if it's just something like a recommendation that I listen to every so often on YouTube, then I'm going to download it.

When you once upon a time had a tonne of music loaded on your computer from borrowed CDs and whatnot, you obviously aren't gonna go and buy it all or track down each and every cd. You download it.

Then there's the arguement where a bands music is innacessible because they don't sell it where you live, you can't buy it off the Internet, no longer being pressed, etc. Like Daysend's "Severance" album. It's no longer in print. At all. So you either get lucky and score off eBay or you download it.

Because I'm a collector, I like buying CDs, but if I were to buy every CD of every artist I have on my computer, not only would I go broke, but I'd have no room to sleep in because I'd have no room to sleep amongst the CDs.

Duff, I see what you're saying about "support the label/artist", and I too once upon a time believed that. Dunno why I stopped, though.

I have no money and no job (lol college student lol) so I rarely buy music. When I do, it's because i'm being treated by my parents or I'm downtown with an extra $15 to spare. I usually just download now (ho ho ho how evil of me) because even if I were able to spend money, I'd have nowhere to get the CDs I want.

On the subject of free music, check out Quote Unquote Records. They're not metal or anything-almost all of them are punk-but the thing that makes them relevant to the topic at hand is that all the music on the label you can download for free 'cause they hate the music industry and shit.

At 7/31/10 08:27 AM, Zodir wrote:

At 7/30/10 10:04 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 7/30/10 09:55 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: musicians get more money from touring and merch B)

The labels are very important in the process. Labels are the link between the musicians and you. If labels get all that money stolen from them, how can you expect them to keep doing their job.

I didn't buy every single track I have on my iPod, but I still can't stand people who have over 6000 tracks in their library and not a single cd in their unexistant cd rack.

OK, this has brought up a point I have been wanting to ask for a while. What about downloading music legally from places like iTunes and the Zune store? Do you classify that as ownership or not?

Well, you do pay for these tracks, but I would never do it. If I have to pay, I would like to be able to enjoy the feeling of holding the album in my hands.

All I really care about is to give some sort of support to those who bring the music to you. Especially if it's your favorite band.

At 7/31/10 06:02 AM, Madnessfreak13 wrote:

At 7/31/10 04:11 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 7/31/10 12:20 AM, Madnessfreak13 wrote: Alright boys 10 bands

1. Iron Maiden
2. Motorhead
3. Metallica
4. Black Sabbath
5. Judas Priest
6. Norma Jean
7. White Zombie
8. Alice Cooper
9. Ozzy Osbourne
10. Slayer

All the list is ok, except for Norma and Alice Cooper. Norma Jean is metalcore and while Alice Cooper has somewhat influenced Metal, his music is still classified as rock.

So that's 8 bands, you will need to have two more. Any suggestions wanted?

you need two more eh? Since I doubt Def Leppard would count I'm not gonna bother arguing over Dragonforce I'll give you

1. The Scorpions
2. Anthrax

DragonForce are metal, and both of the two bands you have added are Metal bands. So I guess you should just wait for one of our horsemen to approove your list. But you will most likely make it in.

At 7/31/10 11:55 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: If I really really like an artist, I'll go out and buy an album or two of theirs, or even aim to get their whole discography if I'm really into them. Though if it's just something like a recommendation that I listen to every so often on YouTube, then I'm going to download it.

We pretty much have the same opinions on this :)

Then there's the arguement where a bands music is innacessible because they don't sell it where you live, you can't buy it off the Internet, no longer being pressed, etc. Like Daysend's "Severance" album. It's no longer in print. At all. So you either get lucky and score off eBay or you download it.

I'm with you on this one two. I can't seem to get my hands on anything by If These Trees Could Talk and Benighted. I've searched on eBay, countless times, and I never ever manage to find their albums. Maybe I should try to get these records directly from the label's website.

Because I'm a collector, I like buying CDs, but if I were to buy every CD of every artist I have on my computer, not only would I go broke, but I'd have no room to sleep in because I'd have no room to sleep amongst the CDs.

Same for me.

Duff, I see what you're saying about "support the label/artist", and I too once upon a time believed that. Dunno why I stopped, though.

Well, I think we have pretty much the same attitude towards music, artists and labels. I didn't pay for all the music I have on my computer either. But I try, as much as possible to buy the albums. I'm not rich either.

Baroness is playing a concert in my town, tickets are $15. To bad I won't be going.