At 5/12/10 06:52 PM, ZimTehRular wrote:
ah yes, ive heard both songs, and i knew dave was kicked out/left, but i never knew it was due to alcohol

woot, i learned something :D

There's still a long way ahead of you pall , I'll let you in on another Megadeth fact:
Kerry King (lead guitar slayer, although hanneman is way better) used to play in megadeth (and the beasty boys)

At 5/12/10 06:40 PM, ZimTehRular wrote:

At 5/12/10 06:17 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: This evil enough?

might just be my tastes, but that singing was awful! i mean, it sounded like a guy just screaming weirdly, if u like it i respect ur opinion, and i do say the guitaring and drumming wasnt bad, but the singing was really bad

Well, black metal is pretty much the most extreme form of heavy metal. It is definitely an acquired taste though.

At 5/12/10 07:03 PM, TheSporkLord wrote:

Well, black metal is pretty much the most extreme form of heavy metal.

Really?

At 5/12/10 07:05 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:

At 5/12/10 06:40 PM, Origina-l wrote:

Dave Mustache was the first lead guitarist of metallica, but he was kicked out of the band due to alcohol abuse. Later he started Megadeth.

You mean Dave MUSTAINE?

Mustache sounds so much cooler, + The mental image brings a smile upon a face :)

At 5/12/10 07:08 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 5/12/10 07:03 PM, TheSporkLord wrote:

Well, black metal is pretty much the most extreme form of heavy metal.

Really?

Aren't they core or something? Besides that's just one band.

At 5/12/10 07:05 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:

At 5/12/10 06:40 PM, Origina-l wrote:

Dave Mustache was the first lead guitarist of metallica, but he was kicked out of the band due to alcohol abuse. Later he started Megadeth.

You mean Dave MUSTAINE?

I think you mean Dave Mustard Stain.

Manowar are the most extreme form of Metal.
Now thats that settled :).

The Temper Trap - Love Lost (Conditions)

At 5/12/10 06:40 PM, Origina-l wrote: [/history lesson]

Actually from what I understand, the two bands DO hate each other.

They played some fest in the 90's together and they tried sabotaging each other sets. (I've heard this before, not sure if it's accurate)

Also, according to several articles i've read about early Megadeth is that they formed with the promise that they would one day completely outshine metallica.

At 5/12/10 06:13 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:

At 5/12/10 05:53 PM, Dalnaki wrote: I wouldn't know, I don't listen to Norgaygian BM.

That's like calling British heavy metal gay or American thrash metal gay.

Or german power metal gay.

Even though there is NOTHING better than German power metal.

At 5/12/10 04:04 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I think it is time you go read about both the Mayhem Festival and the band Mayhem...

Yeah, they're completely different.

Also, Suicide Silence suck balls.

At 5/12/10 03:04 PM, Oppugnant wrote: Are far from generic, some of the albums were meh. But not them.

All the albums listed besides the Nevermore and Death ones ARE generic.

HOWEVER, generic doesn't necessarily mean bad and in this case I like about 3/4 of the albums listed.

At 5/12/10 07:17 PM, Nev wrote: Manowar are the most extreme form of Metal.
Now thats that settled :).

The Temper Trap - Love Lost (Conditions)

Apart from every possible detail and fact. they could be the most br00tal band in history yes!

BUT i'm going to bed, because according to my clock, it's 01:24 in the morning.
Just got back from an allright performance.
Anyhow, goodnight everyone

Just back from the Metallica gig. High on Fire and some Danish rock band called Volbeat were opening.

Details and possibly pictures once I get some much-needed sleep.

At 5/12/10 07:58 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Just back from the Metallica gig. High on Fire and some Danish rock band called Volbeat were opening.

Details and possibly pictures once I get some much-needed sleep.

you got to see metallica! awesome! im waiting for tem to come to england..

Got here a while ago but pics now.

At 5/12/10 08:37 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:

At 5/12/10 08:32 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: Got here a while ago but pics now.

Is it upside down?

Just took the pic from a weird angle.

At 5/12/10 07:15 PM, TheSporkLord wrote:

At 5/12/10 07:08 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 5/12/10 07:03 PM, TheSporkLord wrote:

Well, black metal is pretty much the most extreme form of heavy metal.

Really?

Aren't they core or something? Besides that's just one band.

More like Death Metal...
But they do sound core... grindcore that is :)

Just one band?
O rly?

At 5/12/10 07:03 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: Well, black metal is pretty much the most extreme form of heavy metal. It is definitely an acquired taste though.

Well, it depends, if you check Venom's first albums, they sound more like just some heavy...tradional heavy metal. Welcome to Hell and Black Metal are my favorites by them.

At 5/12/10 08:32 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: Got here a while ago but pics now.

After how fucking long?

Also, Black Metal isn't about being "extreme" or whatever. The whole genre as we know it today, originated by Norwegians by the way (I defy you to list another scene that influenced the genre as much as them), came about to be different than what was out there. They didn't want to be "Black Metal" per-se. It was just them making music that they felt was different and unique. Hence why a lot of older black metal bands dislike a lot of the new ones. There are just too many bands that steal ideas and sounds from other bands, i.e. Dimmu Borgir. The whole idea of the music in the first place was to make something unique on a band by band basis. Hence why Immortal sounds nothing like, say, Enslaved or Darkthrone.

Nekros Manteia - Deus Vult!

I didn't know you guys were fans of tree metal.

I can already tell how much you know about Black Metal.

At 5/12/10 10:34 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote: Also, Black Metal isn't about being "extreme" or whatever. The whole genre as we know it today, originated by Norwegians by the way (I defy you to list another scene that influenced the genre as much as them), came about to be different than what was out there.

Hello, Mr. Metal-archives. Norway wasn't the start of BM, most of them were wankin off INRI. Also, ever hear of bands like Beherit, Blasphemy, Bathory, and Hellhammer? Now I know there's more bands, but you can find them for yourself.
Saying shit like that is like saying Slayer was the first death metal band. Ridiculous.

At 5/13/10 02:31 AM, Dalnaki wrote: Hello, Mr. Metal-archives.

M.A., huh?

Don't fucking presume to be able to argue with me on this you little shit. You don't know anything about what you're talking about. You don't even understand my fucking argument. Black Metal as we know it today came about in Norway. I'm the first person here to argue the fucking beginnings of the genre, since the genre itself came about elsewhere, but the sound of Black Metal as we know it formed in Norway. I never said that they fucking invented the genre. I said they were tired of listening to cookie cutter death metal bullshit and came up with the sound we hear today. They had no influences. Ask the fucking people who made the music. So there goes your dopey ass Sarcófago argument. I've been arguing since before you fucking came to this site in this group that Norway didn't invent the genre. The one thing I can't argue is that they defined the sound. I'm one of the biggest elitists here and I despise Black Metal from Norway, but I cannot deny that fact.

Also, ever hear of bands like Beherit, Blasphemy, Bathory, and Hellhammer?

Also, I've listened to those bands and the genre a lot longer than you have, sport.

You've pissed off how many people in your short little time here? Fuck off you leech. I'm done with you.

No need to be so butthurt over your Norwegian BM, Mr. Metal-archives.

All in favor of having a guest appearance of Ghoul coming back to rid the troll say 'I'

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At 5/12/10 07:22 PM, AniMetal wrote: Even though there is NOTHING better than German power metal.

What about sex?

At 5/12/10 07:37 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote: Just like Frank Beard doesn't have a Beard.

Oddly enough, I've hardly listened to ZZ Top but if I enjoy them enough, I may as well get one of their albums just so I can say "I have a Z artist" as I still don't have any Y or Z artists in my CD collection.

Oddly enough, I've hardly listened to ZZ Top but if I enjoy them enough, I may as well get one of their albums just so I can say "I have a Z artist" as I still don't have any Y or Z artists in my CD collection.

i love that reason :D

At 5/13/10 03:02 AM, Dalnaki wrote: No need to be so butthurt over your Norwegian BM, Mr. Metal-archives.

I've realized a while ago that the anonymity of the Internet is one of its flaws and here's a prime example. Mr. Tough Shit here thinks he can argue with the senior members about a really fucking INSIGNIFICANT detail of metal's HISTORY. While I do realize most of history is interpretation, there are some basic facts that everyone can agree on, and this particular one, black metal's refinement in Norway, is one of those basic facts. Dalnaki, I would suggest you take your deformed foot out of your ass and shove it in your mouth for a while before this threat becomes more than a threat.

At 5/13/10 08:13 AM, Bahamut wrote:

At 5/12/10 07:22 PM, AniMetal wrote:

Oddly enough, I've hardly listened to ZZ Top but if I enjoy them enough, I may as well get one of their albums just so I can say "I have a Z artist" as I still don't have any Y or Z artists in my CD collection.

If you want an Y artist, you should get some Yakuza.

At 5/13/10 08:47 AM, Idiosyncratic wrote:

At 5/13/10 03:02 AM, Dalnaki wrote: No need to be so butthurt over your Norwegian BM, Mr. Metal-archives.

I've realized a while ago that the anonymity of the Internet is one of its flaws and here's a prime example. Mr. Tough Shit here thinks he can argue with the senior members about a really fucking INSIGNIFICANT detail of metal's HISTORY. While I do realize most of history is interpretation, there are some basic facts that everyone can agree on, and this particular one, black metal's refinement in Norway, is one of those basic facts. Dalnaki, I would suggest you take your deformed foot out of your ass and shove it in your mouth for a while before this threat becomes more than a threat.

I don't really see what the problem is here, I mean, yeah, I probably misunderstood what he was trying to say in the beginning, but that doesn't change the fact that it's pretty ridiculous to say that Norway set the mold for a particular style of music when other bands were playing it around the world too, at the same time, and before this style shift happened with the Norgay BM bands. I mean a good example of this would be Master's Hammer, who were playing the norwegian brand of BM before it even existed, even though they were Czech.

That's like saying that every DM band is influenced by the Swedish sound, when there were other scenes around the world at the same time. Of course, feel free to ignore what I said Mr. Internet Tough Guy and fling insults my way while insisting that Norwegian BM is tr00 and frostbitten.

Though, that being said, I have a question to ask. Why do you guys treat me like I know nothing, just because you've been a Metal Hell regular longer than I have? Metal Hell isn't the be-all end all of metal, and neither is Metal-Archives.

At 5/13/10 09:24 AM, Dalnaki wrote:

At 5/13/10 08:47 AM, Idiosyncratic wrote:

At 5/13/10 03:02 AM, Dalnaki wrote:

I don't really see what the problem is here, I mean, yeah, I probably misunderstood what he was trying to say in the beginning, but that doesn't change the fact that it's pretty ridiculous to say that Norway set the mold for a particular style of music when other bands were playing it around the world too, at the same time, and before this style shift happened with the Norgay BM bands. I mean a good example of this would be Master's Hammer, who were playing the norwegian brand of BM before it even existed, even though they were Czech.

The Norwegian brand of black metal has been incredibly influential, and you know that. Look at any black metal band and ask them about their influences and they're bound to say stuff like Immortal, Burzum, Mayhem, etc. That's not to say that Norway is the greatest black metal spawning country (far from true actually. Greeks do it better), but the influence is still there.

That's like saying that every DM band is influenced by the Swedish sound, when there were other scenes around the world at the same time. Of course, feel free to ignore what I said Mr. Internet Tough Guy and fling insults my way while insisting that Norwegian BM is tr00 and frostbitten.

Death metal is not black metal. Things evolve differently. Death metal has roots and influences from every country. England created grindcore, the US added progressive influences to death metal (think Death, Cynic, Atheist), and the Swedes added more melody. Black metal has been traditionally more bit more confined to a certain sound until very recently. Black metal's evolution is really just beginning actually.

Though, that being said, I have a question to ask. Why do you guys treat me like I know nothing, just because you've been a Metal Hell regular longer than I have? Metal Hell isn't the be-all end all of metal, and neither is Metal-Archives.

Because you're a huge cunt that's why. We know that MA is not the ultimate source on metal, but a guide is a guide nevertheless. If we didn't use MA then any old band is metal in one way or another. Not to mention, YOU'RE not the end all of all metal knowledge either. Your opinions aren't fact.

At 5/13/10 10:01 AM, Idiosyncratic wrote: opinions

And that's what most of this trouble has spawned from. That and the fact that Mr D is trying to argue that this green apple tastes like that red apple but the green one is more kvlt because it came from here rather than there.

Or have I just got this completely wrong?

Where did the kick at MA spawn from anyway? Did I miss something? Probably

Stressed.

Bai.

At 5/13/10 09:24 AM, Dalnaki wrote: Though, that being said, I have a question to ask. Why do you guys treat me like I know nothing, just because you've been a Metal Hell regular longer than I have? Metal Hell isn't the be-all end all of metal, and neither is Metal-Archives.

As far as I'm concerned, this has nothing to do with your knowledge of metal. You're just being a cock.

Plus, you're continually misreading Bruce's posts, and watching that is incredibly frustrating.

At 5/13/10 10:29 AM, D3NTATUS wrote: You're just being a cock.

This

seriously, Dal, what the fuck, man?