At 3/14/10 03:33 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: So if a website classify Metallica as Heavy Metal, Kreator as Thrash Metal, Mordor as Doom Metal, Ulver as Black Metal, but who would dare implying that Nu-Metal is a form of metal, you would say that everything about this website is crap?

Well hey, one bad apple ruins the bunch. Especially if they're saying that Metallica is heavy metal.

At 3/14/10 03:39 AM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 3/14/10 03:33 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: So if a website classify Metallica as Heavy Metal, Kreator as Thrash Metal, Mordor as Doom Metal, Ulver as Black Metal, but who would dare implying that Nu-Metal is a form of metal, you would say that everything about this website is crap?

Well hey, one bad apple ruins the bunch. Especially if they're saying that Metallica is heavy metal.

You can't say they are straight down Thrash Metal.
And you are the one talking about bad apples here. These guys may like or dislike Slipknot but still consider them Metal. I don't like some metal that I can still consider as part of the metal universe. These guys just have a different conception of what Metal is.

At 3/14/10 03:43 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: You can't say they are straight down Thrash Metal.

But they are... well, were. There's a reason they were the biggest band of the Big 4 of thrash (the reason was that they were thrash).

And you are the one talking about bad apples here. These guys may like or dislike Slipknot but still consider them Metal. I don't like some metal that I can still consider as part of the metal universe. These guys just have a different conception of what Metal is.

I was just making a joke, I don't want to get into another bullshit argument about the subjectivity of the term "metal" and how we all need to accept that some people think metalcore and nu-metal is metal and some of us don't, because those arguments don't do anything.

At 3/14/10 03:55 AM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 3/14/10 03:43 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: You can't say they are straight down Thrash Metal.

But they are... well, were. There's a reason they were the biggest band of the Big 4 of thrash (the reason was that they were thrash).

Megadeth also were one of the Big 4 of thrash, still, they did play some Heavy Metal stuff...

At 3/14/10 03:57 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Megadeth also were one of the Big 4 of thrash, still, they did play some Heavy Metal stuff...

Again, thrash. And again, like Metallica, they stopped playing straight-up thrash after thrash was big. I prefer to always think of them as thrash bands who happened to make some other stuff, which may have been alright (megadave) or musical abortions (metallica).

i forgot to mention that i don't really consider a band's genre to be the summary of all the genres they've played. i usually classify bands based on what each album is. i dunno, i'm tired, i'm gonna sleep.

Last.fm trolls are so terrible. It's annoying as fuck because they think they're hilarious.

At 3/13/10 06:26 AM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: I'd still recommend that you guys check them out.

Not bad from what I've heard. I'll be sure to check him out sometime but that could be a while. Right now, I'm aiming to finish off a few artists with getting all their albums like Judas Priest and Manowar. Then I have a few other artists who I've been meaning to get one of their albums for a while now.

At 3/13/10 09:09 AM, Zodir wrote: Which is heavier, black metal or death metal?

Does it matter which is heavier? As long as it sounds good, I could care less about how heavy it is, hence why I can enjoy metal bands that are considered to be the "least heaviest".

At 3/13/10 10:02 AM, MudkipsPiano wrote: I am buying 30 albums of Slaughter of the soul, just in case 29 of them break.

You know, I don't even have two of the same albums and if there's going to be any albums I'll re-buy, it's some of Judas Priest to finish off the remaster collection and Blind Guardian's first two albums for the demo tracks. However, I'm sure I can get the demos elsewhere.

At 3/14/10 03:33 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 3/13/10 06:13 AM, Bahamut wrote: I've heard a few bad things about Metalstorm, especially from Goatchrist so I've forgotten about that site. If that site considers Slipknot as metal, then it's what I thought. If not, then I'm not sure what the site he didn't like was called.

So if a website classify Metallica as Heavy Metal, Kreator as Thrash Metal, Mordor as Doom Metal, Ulver as Black Metal, but who would dare implying that Nu-Metal is a form of metal, you would say that everything about this website is crap?

Not entirely crap but you know to be cautious about what they say. I'm still weary about what Metal-Archives say at times after accepting Trivium when bands which are clearly more metal than them such as Uriah Heep and The Black Mages are rejected.

I'm sorry dude... but to a lot of people, Nu-Metal is a form of metal. Can't say I could blame them... just look at the name...

So...What have you learned from the metal community?

You won't see knights and wizards in DT's lyrics and album covers. Plus, I said that sometimes Heavy and Power Metal are confused with each others.

Actually, you might want to take a look at In the Presence of Enemies.

At 3/14/10 08:16 AM, AllMightyBruce wrote: Last.fm trolls are so terrible. It's annoying as fuck because they think they're hilarious.

It's reasons like this why I stay far away as possible from the community. It's an embarrassment to humanity. I'd say they're as bad as YouTube. All I do on Last.fm these days is look at my charts and see how my friends are on there.

At 3/14/10 08:16 AM, AllMightyBruce wrote: Last.fm trolls are so terrible. It's annoying as fuck because they think they're hilarious.

I want your beard.

Just sayin'

Throwing out a random question.

Favorite thrash metal band. Go.

I say Kreator.

At 3/14/10 11:46 AM, mothballs wrote: Favorite thrash metal band. Go.

Municipal Waste, no contest.

MUNICIPAL WASTE IS GONNA FUCK YOU UP!

At 3/14/10 11:46 AM, mothballs wrote: Throwing out a random question.

Favorite thrash metal band. Go.

I say Kreator.

Voivod. A bit strange, but hey, I love em.

Kreator, voivod and MW are all great.

But i'm going to have to add Artillery, Demolition Hammer and Paradox to that list of greatness.

municipal waste is gonna FUCK YOU UP

At 3/14/10 11:46 AM, mothballs wrote: Favorite thrash metal band. Go.

It's between Evile and Municipal Waste.

At 3/14/10 12:55 PM, AniMetal wrote: Kreator, voivod and MW are all great.

But i'm going to have to add Artillery, Demolition Hammer and Paradox to that list of greatness.

I have not heard of Demolition Hammer or Paradox before, but Artillery is amazing. Should I check the other two out if I like Artillery, or they different styles?

I really enjoyed making this, so I'd appreciate it if you guys could check it out. :)

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At 3/14/10 11:46 AM, mothballs wrote: Throwing out a random question.

Favorite thrash metal band. Go.

I say Kreator.

Evile or Metallica thrash metal albums.

At 3/14/10 10:41 AM, Bahamut wrote: It's reasons like this why I stay far away as possible from the community. It's an embarrassment to humanity. I'd say they're as bad as YouTube. All I do on Last.fm these days is look at my charts and see how my friends are on there.

There's a few groups I go to. But other than Foobar they're all magnets for trolls. Like Anti-antifa. You have no ideas how many times a day some moron comes in calling us all nazis.

At 3/14/10 11:16 AM, Idiosyncratic wrote: I want your beard.

Just sayin'

O u.

Pretty good considering I started getting facial hair around grade 5. Haha. I'm putting a braid in it today hopefully. It's long enough.

At 3/14/10 03:47 PM, Zodir wrote:

At 3/14/10 12:55 PM, AniMetal wrote: Kreator, voivod and MW are all great.
But i'm going to have to add Artillery, Demolition Hammer and Paradox to that list of greatness.

I have not heard of Demolition Hammer or Paradox before, but Artillery is amazing. Should I check the other two out if I like Artillery, or they different styles?

Similar, not too similar though.

Still amazing though.

Also why the fuck are you guys saying Evile? They're nothing compared to some other modern day thrash metal bands.

Like seriously.

What do you guys think of Eluveitie's new album? It got terrible reviews on the metal archives, but I've listened to a few of the songs and I really like them.

At 3/14/10 06:02 PM, AniMetal wrote: Still amazing though.

I see Demolition Hammer as Slayer if they were talented.

At 3/14/10 06:29 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote:

At 3/14/10 06:02 PM, AniMetal wrote: Still amazing though.

I see Demolition Hammer as Slayer if they were talented.

And had a not-shittie vocalist.

Also, I really like Eluveitie's new album - Metal archives just sucks cock.

At 3/14/10 06:31 PM, AniMetal wrote: Also, I really like Eluveitie's new album - Metal archives just sucks cock.

They're a bunch of fuckhats that try to force their views upon you. I never use it for reviews, just to look up bands I'm discovering.

I know Im going to get shunned for this but, I think the Twisted Sister cover of Burn In Hell by Dimmu Borgir is better than the original. I expect to be lynched for this. :3

Oh and in regards to the thrash question, Municipal Waste (recently got Hazardous Mutation and Waste Em' All :D discography is complete-ish), Metallica (thrash days), Destruction and Nuclear Assault. Shut up, I can't leave it at one.

Top 3 Doom bands GO!

Candlemass
Left In Torment
Electric Wizard

At 3/14/10 09:40 PM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote:

Top 3 Doom bands GO!

Candlemass
Left In Torment
Electric Wizard

I don't know shit about Doom :P
I'm still throwing some bands in

Electric Wizard
Katatonia

I heard they say Sunn O))) is Drone Doom...
Well... I still don't know shit about doom :P

I've heard of Bongzilla, they are kind of nice :)

But that's pretty much it :P

At 3/14/10 09:58 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I heard they say Sunn O))) is Drone Doom...

I'm no expert on the subject myself, but check out Left In Torment, they're French, great band, also add to your list 'Sleep'.

I hate uni work.

At 3/14/10 10:18 PM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote:

I hate uni work.

I do to...

At 3/14/10 09:40 PM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote: Top 3 Doom bands GO!

I'm assuming stoner doom is okay. This isn't a list of the most influential, it's just my three favorite doom bands.

Electric Wizard, Sleep, Kyuss/OM (i couldn't decide)