At 1/31/10 05:15 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 1/31/10 04:58 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: No matter how much I hate Denta

Aw :(

I do not really hate you

Reading through page 460 to 470 of the Hell, I feel really ashamed.
What an angry teenager I was...

At 10/10/06 07:19 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: A band cannot be a 100% bad, face it.

Wait, what?

At 1/31/10 10:05 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 10/10/06 07:19 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: A band cannot be a 100% bad, face it.

Wait, what?

Yeah... no need to quote this.
It smells like contradiction.

But what I really meant back then is that I really thought you couldn't say that... let's say Alexi Laiho's vocals were horrible only because you didn't like them.

So in fact, what I meant was not that there is no bad band, but more like, something you may not appreciate is not a 100% shit only because you don't like it.

Nothing to do with my Lady Gaga sucks balls argument mk? >:(

The palace of death far away where no light exsists..................

I got Overkill's new album today and it's pretty good but contains a couple of deja vus. The most obvious one being the Children of the Grave riff in The Green and Black.

At 1/31/10 10:00 AM, Nev wrote: They're basically what happens if you mix terrible Deathcore with Wayne's World.

That doesn't sound good at all. I'll obviously avoid it and would have done so anyway if you never described the music to me.

At 1/31/10 02:33 PM, AniMetal wrote: Viking Metal isn't even a real genre.

I will always agree with this statement.

At 1/31/10 10:05 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 10/10/06 07:19 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: A band cannot be a 100% bad, face it.

Wait, what?

Easily proven false thanks to BrokenCYDE :P

At 2/1/10 10:48 AM, Bahamut wrote:

At 1/31/10 02:33 PM, AniMetal wrote: Viking Metal isn't even a real genre.

I will always agree with this statement.

I dunno. To me, there's always that melodic but still somewhat raw sound that I'd identify as 'Viking Metal' before anything else.

At 1/31/10 01:46 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:
Oh sorry, I'm kind of new. I've only been here for two or three years, so I'm not really familiar with how things are run around here. Are you a mod or something?

At any rate, it's relevant to metal because stoner metal is my favorite genre of metal. I didn't get to listen to any when I was high, though, but I swear that one day I will.

I can't say that I'm a mod. I sort of see where you are going about it, now that you clarified it. I apologize that I misunderstood.

At 1/31/10 10:00 AM, Nev wrote:
Do not preach to regulars of this club. We will talk shit all we want.
Also, you're list was shitty, more than likely you'll be deemed unwelcome here :). I recommend the Nu-Metal/Metalcore Club.

Everyone has their own interpretations. Also, Magane is, in their words, a "yomi metal" band. "Yomi" is Japanese for "hell" or "underworld". Also, some other bands to check out: Vomit Remnants, Testament, Bhayanak Maut, Siksa Kubur, and Blood Stain Child (earliest time as pure death metal, not the most recent with all that techno stuff).

At 2/1/10 04:57 PM, AkujinRuukasu wrote: Everyone has their own interpretations. Also, Magane is, in their words, a "yomi metal" band. "Yomi" is Japanese for "hell" or "underworld". Also, some other bands to check out: Vomit Remnants, Testament, Bhayanak Maut, Siksa Kubur, and Blood Stain Child (earliest time as pure death metal, not the most recent with all that techno stuff).

HIM call themselves "love metal," but they're not metal. It's usually a bad idea to trust what a band describes themselves as, because they usually try to shy away from classifications at all. If you could post some samples of the bands on your list, especially the Japanese ones, we could more accurately decide whether or not you're suitable for membership.

someone ask for avant-garde metal?

Arcturus
Solefald
Virus
Ved Buens Ende
Sigh
Unexpect
Kekal
Fantomas
Mr Bungle
Fleurety
Maudlin of the Well
Kayo Dot
Peccatum
Age of Silence
Aarni (just avoid Tohcoth)
Lux Occulta
Code
Phlebotomized
Azure Emote
Anubi
Smile Carved Sour
Karaboudjan (you actually might hate them, but give it a try. they've only made 3 songs)
Oranssi Pazuzu (if they count)
Transcending Bizarre? (though they don't sound avant garde to me)

Also, I'm giving Ram-Zet another chance after not having listened to them in a long time. They seem kinda nice, actually. It's just the guitar seems kinda meh so far. pretty rhythmic, which is good, but...like...monotone... chugachugachuga - chuga - chugachuga - chugachugachug

At 1/28/10 07:23 PM, TheSporkLord wrote:

At 1/28/10 07:11 PM, Nev wrote: Opeth are Prog Death. Not Black.

I'd say they have a variety.

not really

At 1/28/10 07:37 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Beastwould be a good one... not the japan puke shit, the band from Quebec.

Digable Planets make some kind of Jazz Hop stuff. But you gottat love the Brooklyn attitude y'all! Cause these n*ggers can get annoying. Still the music is kind of good.

Get some Funki Porcini otherwise. I really like what this guy is doing :)

I'll take a look. thanks.

At 1/28/10 07:37 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: But since they are Tolkien influenced... I couldn't imagine hating them.
No wait, wait... I listenned to that shit band named Ephel Duath.

lol They are pretty irritating, aren't they?

At 1/29/10 10:18 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Blut Aus Nord and In Lingua Mortua and Mirrorthrone.

I guess you could call those avant garde. They're good, either way. I keep freaking forgetting to get Memoria Vetusta II. I feel like it's going to be a disappointment, now, after waiting this long to hear it. And I pretty much forgot about in Lingua Mortua, even though I brought their name about these parts. I should listen to them again.

At 1/30/10 09:19 PM, AkujinRuukasu wrote: Magane (pronounced "mah-gah-neh", sort of Japanese Cradle of Filth-like),

I remember checking out that band. wasn't really for me.

At 1/30/10 10:29 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: So am I the only one who listens to Old-school death metal? I haven't heard you guys talk much about any of them, Morbid angel, Deicide, Massacre, Obituary.

No, you're not the only one.

also, Disincarnate.

At 1/31/10 03:24 AM, D3NTATUS wrote: hey you guys, just droppin' in to say that i smoked weed for the first time today (yesterday, actually, since it's 12:25 on the west coast). i'm sure ponos is proud.

didja actually get high? some first timers don't. I like to smoke kind of a lot. maybe I could cut down a bit.

At 1/31/10 08:29 AM, Bahamut wrote: What kind of name is iwrestledabearonce?

The name of a band that doesn't play metal.

At 1/31/10 10:00 AM, Nev wrote: I recommend the Nu-Metal/Metalcore Club.

Yeah, most of that seemed to be non-metal. He has In Flames (if you count him mentioning that he thinks they're good), Magane, and I guess Byzantine. I don't even know if he's talking about the Nylithia from Canada that has a 20 or so minute EP out. But that's still far from ten metal bands.

At 1/31/10 02:17 PM, mothballs wrote: Believe it or not, Amon Amarth is not Viking metal. They're melodic death metal, but they just talk about vikings.

Viking metal isn't even a genre. There's folk metal, and there's a variety of metal bands with lyrics about Vikings.

At 1/31/10 02:36 PM, smeagol1 wrote: More of a Pagan Metal to me.

again, not a genre.

At 1/31/10 05:42 PM, Zodir wrote: I've recently listened to Behemoth's Grom album a lot. I really enjoyed it, but almost very review I've seen for it is negative. Am I just crazy?

let me guess. They changed their style a little bit? MA reviewers shit their pants when that happens.

At 1/31/10 09:54 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Reading through page 460 to 470 of the Hell, I feel really ashamed.
What an angry teenager I was...

I feel like an asshole reading my old posts sometimes.

At 2/1/10 04:57 PM, AkujinRuukasu wrote: I can't say that I'm a mod. I sort of see where you are going about it, now that you clarified it. I apologize that I misunderstood.

Don't worry about it. would you like to post ten metal bands you like and join?

At 2/1/10 07:15 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 1/31/10 02:17 PM, mothballs wrote: Believe it or not, Amon Amarth is not Viking metal. They're melodic death metal, but they just talk about vikings.

Viking metal isn't even a genre. There's folk metal, and there's a variety of metal bands with lyrics about Vikings.

Neither is Folk. Viking metal doesn't describe the sound in any way, just what their songs are about.
Folk metal doesn't describe the sound in any way, just what their songs are about.

Yeah, Ram-Zet is good.

At 2/1/10 07:34 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: Neither is Folk.

Yes the fuck it is.

Folk metal doesn't describe the sound in any way

What the hell are you talking about? Yes it does.

At 2/1/10 07:34 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: Neither is Folk. Viking metal doesn't describe the sound in any way, just what their songs are about.
Folk metal doesn't describe the sound in any way, just what their songs are about.

Oh, dear. Oh, dear...

How can you sing about folk? Unless you're singing about people, but thats silly.

In fact, folk metal describes the sound only, and not the lyrical content. It can be about anything as long as it is in folk metal style, though it may often be about Vikings, ancient Celts, mythology, and paganism. That's not actually a qualifier.

At 2/1/10 07:15 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: didja actually get high? some first timers don't. I like to smoke kind of a lot. maybe I could cut down a bit.

Fortunately, I did get high. I dunno how high I would be on a scale, but I was acting pretty weird. Colors were way better than usual, food was transcendent, every girl I saw was pretty, I thought I recognized everyone, parts of my body kept going numb, some of my muscles would randomly tense, and I rambled on and on about all sorts of stuff. I would explain how scientific stuff worked, and I got all these ideas for things (like a way to quantify how high someone is, then use it to regulate how high someone can legally be, and all sorts of stuff.) I remember at one point, I was explaining how the lead singer of Rammstein was stupid because he said that German and Spanish are similar because in both languages they roll their Rs, and I explained how they're from totally different linguistic families and Rammstein suck anyway.

How the hell does folk describe the sound? Can a guitarist have a folk style? That's like saying a deathmetal guitarist's style is death.

At 2/1/10 07:49 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: How the hell does folk describe the sound? Can a guitarist have a folk style? That's like saying a deathmetal guitarist's style is death.

It'd be a Death Metal style.
Metal is a genre. Death is a subgenre of Death.

Folk is a genre.

At 2/1/10 07:50 PM, Nev wrote: Metal is a genre. Death is a subgenre of Death.

Derp.

At 2/1/10 07:50 PM, Nev wrote:

At 2/1/10 07:49 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: How the hell does folk describe the sound? Can a guitarist have a folk style? That's like saying a deathmetal guitarist's style is death.

It'd be a Death Metal style.
Metal is a genre. Death is a subgenre of Death.

Folk is a genre.

Still not seeing how Folk describes the sound. I understand how it can describe what the song/band is about, but not the actual sound. And if what you're saying is true than Folk would be a sub-genre not a whole genre.

At 2/1/10 07:54 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: I understand how it can describe what the song/band is about, but not the actual sound.

How can it describe the lyrical content? Explain please.

And if what you're saying is true than Folk would be a sub-genre not a whole genre.

No. Folk Metal is a sub genre of Metal.
Folk is a genre on its own. Have you never heard of Folk music?

At 2/1/10 07:50 PM, Nev wrote:

At 2/1/10 07:49 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: How the hell does folk describe the sound? Can a guitarist have a folk style? That's like saying a deathmetal guitarist's style is death.

It'd be a Death Metal style.
Metal is a genre. Death is a subgenre of Death.

Folk is a genre.

Kind of like Elvenking. They are a power metal band with Folk influences, like with fiddles and stuff, and also the Lord Weird Slough Feg have some folk influences, particularly on drums and guitar. So Folk Metal could be just normal metal with a lot of folk influence. Not that hard to explain.

At 2/1/10 07:15 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 1/28/10 07:37 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: But since they are Tolkien influenced... I couldn't imagine hating them.
No wait, wait... I listenned to that shit band named Ephel Duath.

lol They are pretty irritating, aren't they?

Irritating is not the word. Plain shit would fit better. They are a fail attempt at being prog. They also try to sound humoristic with their retarded lyrics.
Worst is really that they took the name of one of the darkest places in Mordor, the Ephel Duath mountains.

I just love Tolkien's work and it's getting me mad to ear that kind of blasphemy.

At 1/31/10 09:54 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Reading through page 460 to 470 of the Hell, I feel really ashamed.
What an angry teenager I was...

I feel like an asshole reading my old posts sometimes.

Nothing compared to my angry teenager's whinny posts.
It's also funny to read these posts because I was so anti-death metal back then, which is pretty much not the case anymore.

At 2/1/10 07:49 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: How the hell does folk describe the sound? Can a guitarist have a folk style? That's like saying a deathmetal guitarist's style is death.

... what? ...
are you serious?

I couldn't even imagine that the word folk in folk metal could be a short of the word folklore.
Ever heard of folkoric music? Cause I never did. Couldn't imagine that it could be metal with elements of the folk music of the country the band came from... Couldn't imagine that either.

If you want to ear pure Folk Metal, go for Kramola. I think they sound really bad, but they are a kind of folk.
Otherwise, Bergtatt by Ulver is a good Black/Folk album and Agalloch write good Folk Metal.

At 2/1/10 08:07 PM, Nev wrote:

At 2/1/10 07:54 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: I understand how it can describe what the song/band is about, but not the actual sound.

How can it describe the lyrical content? Explain please.

Mythology, folk beliefs. When I here Folk I usually know it has something to do with Personal religions, beliefs and such.

And if what you're saying is true than Folk would be a sub-genre not a whole genre.

No. Folk Metal is a sub genre of Metal.
Folk is a genre on its own. Have you never heard of Folk music?

By Genre do you mean a whole general genre such as metal or rock or country? Or very specific genre. I consider Folk metal to be a sub genre ( heavy/ black/ death/ prog) and not a whole genre ( rock/ metal/ country)

At 2/1/10 08:23 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: By Genre do you mean a whole general genre such as metal or rock or country?

Amazingly... yes.

Or very specific genre. I consider Folk metal to be a sub genre ( heavy/ black/ death/ prog) and not a whole genre ( rock/ metal/ country)

Hence before why I said 'Death Metal is a subgenre of Metal. Folk is a genre'.

At 2/1/10 08:30 PM, Nev wrote:

At 2/1/10 08:23 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: By Genre do you mean a whole general genre such as metal or rock or country?

Amazingly... yes.

Or very specific genre. I consider Folk metal to be a sub genre ( heavy/ black/ death/ prog) and not a whole genre ( rock/ metal/ country)

Hence before why I said 'Death Metal is a subgenre of Metal. Folk is a genre'.

So you're saying it's a whole genre? How can you say Folk is a whole genre and say that death metal is a sub genre? They're both sub genres.

At 2/1/10 08:33 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: So you're saying it's a whole genre? How can you say Folk is a whole genre and say that death metal is a sub genre? They're both sub genres.

... Are you seriously not getting this?

Folk is a genre. Folk music. Metal is another genre. Whack 'em together. Folk Metal.
*bangs head*

At 2/1/10 08:36 PM, Nev wrote: Folk is a genre. Folk music. Metal is another genre. Whack 'em together. Folk Metal.
*bangs head*

Exactly.

At 2/1/10 08:36 PM, Nev wrote:

At 2/1/10 08:33 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: So you're saying it's a whole genre? How can you say Folk is a whole genre and say that death metal is a sub genre? They're both sub genres.

... Are you seriously not getting this?

Folk is a genre. Folk music. Metal is another genre. Whack 'em together. Folk Metal.
*bangs head*

I know that. But Folk metal in itself is a sub-genre. Folk METAL, it's a sub genre of metal.

At 2/1/10 08:40 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: I know that. But Folk metal in itself is a sub-genre. Folk METAL, it's a sub genre of metal.

Yes. Weren't you the one saying it wasn't?
This starting because we said Viking Metal wasn't a genre. But Folk Metal was. Vikings is a theme of some Folk Metal bands. You were saying that Folk is a theme too. Everyone else was saying that Folk Metal is the elements of Folk music mixed with those of Metal.

At 2/1/10 08:44 PM, Nev wrote:

At 2/1/10 08:40 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: I know that. But Folk metal in itself is a sub-genre. Folk METAL, it's a sub genre of metal.

Yes. Weren't you the one saying it wasn't?
This starting because we said Viking Metal wasn't a genre. But Folk Metal was. Vikings is a theme of some Folk Metal bands. You were saying that Folk is a theme too. Everyone else was saying that Folk Metal is the elements of Folk music mixed with those of Metal.

You know what I just realized? There are so many different kinds of genres and sub genres that I really should just stop trying to keep track. From now on I shall only only use the general genres.