At 8/27/09 01:44 PM, AniMetal wrote:

At 8/27/09 11:21 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: Which, being power metal, can be compared.

Yeah, but it doesn't mean they are ZOMG SIMILAR, IF YOU LIKE ONE YOU'LL LIKE THE OTHER.

Which is completely beside the point. They are comparable. They can be compared. Nev was comparing.

At 8/27/09 05:10 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Which is completely beside the point. They are comparable. They can be compared. Nev was comparing.

And really, even if that was the point, it'd still be true. If you like Dream Theater, chances are you'll like Symphony X.

Frou Frou - Maddening Shroud (Details)

I see how you guys are. :\

At 8/27/09 05:27 PM, smeagol1 wrote: I see how you guys are. :\

Were you eagerly awaiting a reply to your last post? Because that would be silly.

At 8/27/09 05:08 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Mustaine doing what Mustaine does best. Gloating and trying to cover his ass.

He seemed like he was trying to be humble, but he came off as the biggest asshole ever. And does anyone agree that he's was put as the number one greatest guitar player from anywhere ever?

Blind Guardian and Symphony X are two of my favorite bands in the whole world, and Nightfall and Sea Of Lies are NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO where no near either of there best works.

They both have annoying as fuck chorus's, they both have only average vocals from such amazing singers, they both have INCREDIBLY boring and uninspired instrumental(Except the bass in Sea Of Lies) and they both have HORRENDOUS lyrics.

Anyone who says those two songs are two of those bands better works is clearly delusional.

Songs that are worth getting Nightfall In Middle Earth for: Curse Of feanor(Sp???), Blood tears, Mirror Mirror, Time Stands Still and A Dark Passage, the rest is pretty mih.

Songs that are worth getting Divine Wings Of Tragedy for: Of Sins And Shadows, The Accolade, Pharaoh, Divine wings itself, Candlelight Fantasia.

At 8/27/09 06:20 PM, AniMetal wrote: Blind Guardian and Symphony X are two of my favorite bands in the whole world, and Nightfall and Sea Of Lies are NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO where no near either of there best works.

They both have annoying as fuck chorus's, they both have only average vocals from such amazing singers, they both have INCREDIBLY boring and uninspired instrumental(Except the bass in Sea Of Lies)

I uh, you know, still think you're wrong.

and they both have HORRENDOUS lyrics.

I don't really care about the lyrics, and I'm surprised you do, you know, being a powerfag and all.

Anyone who says those two songs are two of those bands better works is clearly delusional.

yuh huh...yuh huh...

Songs that are worth getting Divine Wings Of Tragedy for

the whole damn album.

NIIIIIIIIIIGHTFAAAAAAAAALL
QUIETLY CREPT IN AND CHANGED US ALL

nightfall is such a BA song

At 8/27/09 06:53 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

nightfall is such a BA song

Yeah...no.

You want badass blind Guardian listen to Punishment Divine, Nightfall isn't Bad ass at all.

At 8/27/09 06:45 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: I uh, you know, still think you're wrong.

Well what makes them "ZOMG GREAT!" cause I fail to see anything other than some of the worst songs written by those bands.

And they both have HORRENDOUS lyrics.

I don't really care about the lyrics,

Well that's just silly, considering a lot of bands write the lyrics and THEN write the instrumental to go along with it. (Not all bands, just a lot of them)

and I'm surprised you do, you know, being a powerfag and all.

Are you kidding? Most Power Metal bands have GREAT lyrics!

And I can't even listen to soem bands because the lyrics are so bad, look at Elvenking! Orgasmic instrumental but the lyrics are so horrible and the vocals are so easy to understand that it makes me want to cry!

Songs that are worth getting Divine Wings Of Tragedy for

the whole damn album.

I beg to differ.

The Odyssey, V and Paradise Lost are all worth getting for the whole album, Twilight In Olympus and and The Damnation Game are worth getting because Smoke + Mirrors, Church Of The Machine, Through The Looking Glass, The Damnation Game, Dressed To Kill, Edge Of Forever and A Winter's Dream are just plain orgasmic.

The only orgasmic songs on Divine wings is Accolade, divine wings itself and Candlelight Fantasia, the rest of the songs are some of the weakest songs SX has made(besides tracks 4 - 7 on the damnation game ha)

At 8/27/09 05:30 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 8/27/09 05:27 PM, smeagol1 wrote: I see how you guys are. :\

Were you eagerly awaiting a reply to your last post? Because that would be silly.

I EXPECT A FUCKING SING ALONG GODS DAMNIT!!!

At 8/27/09 06:20 PM, AniMetal wrote: They both have annoying as fuck chorus's, they both have only average vocals from such amazing singers, they both have INCREDIBLY boring and uninspired instrumental(Except the bass in Sea Of Lies) and they both have HORRENDOUS lyrics.

Sea of Lies is fantastically instrumentally. Try playing the fucking thing.
And Nightfall is also brilliant, its one of my favourite songs to play on guitar.

At 8/27/09 06:55 PM, AniMetal wrote: Are you kidding? Most Power Metal bands have GREAT lyrics!

Okay... guys, he's definately ill or something...

Blind Guardian - Into the Storm (Nightfall in Middle-Earth)

At 8/27/09 07:03 PM, Nev wrote: Sea of Lies is fantastically instrumentally. Try playing the fucking thing.
And Nightfall is also brilliant, its one of my favourite songs to play on guitar.

Just because something is difficult to play doesn't make it good, if it sounds boring as fuck and has no soul out into it as it's mindless chugging then it doesn't count.

At 8/27/09 06:55 PM, AniMetal wrote: Are you kidding? Most Power Metal bands have GREAT lyrics!

Okay... guys, he's definately ill or something...

Only GENERIC bands like Dragonforce, Hammerfall and whatnot have generic lyrics.

Bands like Sonata Arctica, Rhapsody Of Fire, Kamelot and the like have some of the best lyrics i've ever read.

At 8/27/09 07:05 PM, AniMetal wrote: Just because something is difficult to play doesn't make it good, if it sounds boring as fuck and has no soul out into it as it's mindless chugging then it doesn't count.

Sea of Lies isn't mindless chugging you fool.

Listen to tapped lead bit. It's like The Trooper on speed and its fucking amazing.
And all Symphony X sounds like mindless wanking. Of course there is soul in everything they do, cause they clearly enjoy doing it.

Blind Guardian - Blood Tears (Nightfall in Middle-Earth)

At 8/27/09 06:55 PM, AniMetal wrote:

I uh, you know, still think you're wrong.

Well what makes them "ZOMG GREAT!"

What's there to explain? I think all the songs on the album have- hey wait, I already did this. I'm not going through this again.

cause I fail to see anything other than some of the worst songs written by those bands.

I know you fail to see it. That's been made clear.

At 8/27/09 06:55 PM, AniMetal wrote: Well that's just silly

No, it isn't, especially since we're talking about a metal band.

At 8/27/09 06:55 PM, AniMetal wrote: Are you kidding? Most Power Metal bands have GREAT lyrics!

hahahah oh man. wow. Knowing that you think this, I just don't know how I can argue with you about music.

At 8/27/09 07:05 PM, AniMetal wrote: Bands like Sonata Arctica, Rhapsody Of Fire, Kamelot and the like have some of the best lyrics i've ever read.

lol wow

Also, I think Sonata Arctica is crap. fucking flower metal.

At 8/27/09 07:05 PM, AniMetal wrote: mindless chugging

okay, what the fuck.

At 8/27/09 07:28 PM, Nev wrote: Listen to tapped lead bit. It's like The Trooper on speed and its fucking amazing.

Not really.

And all Symphony X sounds like mindless wanking. Of course there is soul in everything they do, cause they clearly enjoy doing it.

Listen to: Paradise Lost, The Sacrifice, Candlelight Fantasia, A Winter's Dream, Through The Looking Glass and The Edge Of Forever.

Blind Guardian - Blood Tears (Nightfall in Middle-Earth)

Great song.

At 8/27/09 07:29 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: What's there to explain? I think all the songs on the album have- hey wait, I already did this. I'm not going through this again.

Oh yes, I remeber now. Entirely memorable rifts and solos. Uh huh.

Cause DA DA DA DA DUM DA DA DA DO DO DA *Rinse and repeat* is suuuuuuuuuuuuch a memorable rift and isn't generic and doesn't sound like it could be a guitar rift for any metal band, no matter what genre it is. Fuck, even a PornoGrind band could use that guitar rift.

hahahah oh man. wow. Knowing that you think this, I just don't know how I can argue with you about music.

You're an idiot, really you are.

Also, I think Sonata Arctica is crap. fucking flower metal.

Suck a Br00tal black Metal band's dick and swallow their load of corpse paint.

So your arguments are spent, I take it?

At 8/27/09 07:42 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: So your arguments are spent, I take it?

Spent? Are you kidding? Now I feel like arguing about why Sonata Arctica are more metal than black metal, death metal and thrash metal because they are actually MUSIC.

Go ahead. I'll be sure not to listen.

At 8/27/09 07:45 PM, AniMetal wrote: Spent? Are you kidding? Now I feel like arguing about why Sonata Arctica are more metal than black metal, death metal and thrash metal because they are actually MUSIC.

Oh, please do, it'll be an interesting read :).

Blind Guardian - Noldor (Dead Winter Reigns) (Nightfall in Middle-Earth)

At 8/27/09 07:47 PM, Nev wrote:

At 8/27/09 07:45 PM, AniMetal wrote: Spent? Are you kidding? Now I feel like arguing about why Sonata Arctica are more metal than black metal, death metal and thrash metal because they are actually MUSIC.

Oh, please do, it'll be an interesting read :).

Anything metal is just as metal as anything else metal.

Whether it be Waking The Cadaver, Dragonforce, Atheist or Korpiklaani. There's no such thing as "Pussy metal" "Hardly metal" "Most metal thing" etc.

Whether I be in a grind band, a black metal band, or a thrash metal band or a very Melodic and symphonic power metal band, you are STILL metal.

But you see, no one pours there heart and soul into a death metal or thrash metal band (Unless it's like Opeth)

If you are in a power metal or progressive metal band you are expected to do such and if you haven't noticed, it's easier for a non-metal fan to apprciate power metal than black metal.

Somebody can easily appreciate SOnata Arctica as music, for a band like Rotting Christ they won't be as lucky.

While both bands are just as metal as each other, one band is easier consider music or even art.

Blind Guardian - Noldor (Dead Winter Reigns) (Nightfall in Middle-Earth)

Listening to the entire album are you?

At 8/27/09 07:59 PM, AniMetal wrote: Somebody can easily appreciate SOnata Arctica as music, for a band like Rotting Christ they won't be as lucky.

Apples and Oranges.

At 8/27/09 08:03 PM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote:

At 8/27/09 07:59 PM, AniMetal wrote: Somebody can easily appreciate SOnata Arctica as music, for a band like Rotting Christ they won't be as lucky.

Apples and Oranges.

But at the core, they are both fruit, both come from trees and both are filled with juice.

You see, while they are completely separate they are also very similar.

At 8/27/09 07:59 PM, AniMetal wrote: Anything metal is just as metal as anything else metal.

You said more Metal. Thats not the same.

Also, you're forgetting Manowar...

But you see, no one pours there heart and soul into a death metal or thrash metal band (Unless it's like Opeth)

It sounds to me that you are equating soul and heart as 'acoustic passages'.

How do you know the guys from Carcass don't put as much heart into their music as Blind Guardian?
Because it doesn't sound like it?
These people have dedicated their lives to this. And the fact that Death/Thrash is less commercial than Power to me says that they are making a greater sacrifice. Doing what they love whilst having to scrap for money.

Being melodic doesn't mean you are doing anything more meaningful.
Listen to Dystopia and you'll realise how much they believe in their various political and ethical statements. And they are from easy listening.

While both bands are just as metal as each other, one band is easier consider music or even art.

There is nothing to consider.
All music is music and all music is art.

Listening to the entire album are you?

I am indeed.

Blind Guardian - A Dark Passage (Nightfall in Middle-Earth)

I think Nev just ended the thread!

At 8/27/09 07:28 PM, Nev wrote:

Of course there is soul in everything they do, cause they clearly enjoy doing it.

Anyone who ever saw them live would have to agree. And this is one of the main reasons why Symphony X is one of the best bands out there... They love to play their stuff each and every night of the tour.

Did anyone mention that Russel Allen is one of the best vocalists in the world right now? I've rarely heard so much emotion, so much power and energy in a guy's voice.

8th Commandment by Sonata Arctica

At 8/27/09 08:45 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Anyone who ever saw them live would have to agree. And this is one of the main reasons why Symphony X is one of the best bands out there... They love to play their stuff each and every night of the tour.

It's true. Their chemistry on stage was great and it was just smiles all round.
I loved it when Russell blindfolded Romeo whilst he just bitch slapped the fretboard.
He really does put guitarists to shame.

If I wasn't at the height of my Dream Theater fanboy period during that tour I would have said that Symphony X stole the show. But as it were my balls had to rip themselves off my body in order to preserve the minute amount of sperm left during DT's set :P.

Did anyone mention that Russel Allen is one of the best vocalists in the world right now? I've rarely heard so much emotion, so much power and energy in a guy's voice.

It's a given, he's such a good professional live as well. I've never seen a singer have such good live technique as Russell.

Except Brandon from Incubus.

Simian vs. Justice - We Are Your Friends (We Are Your Friends)

At 8/27/09 08:20 PM, Kiddmeizter wrote: I think Nev just ended the thread!

I forgot to welcome you back.

GIMME A HUG :)!

At 8/27/09 09:03 PM, Nev wrote: It's a given, he's such a good professional live as well. I've never seen a singer have such good live technique as Russell.

Don't forget to mention his air-guitar skills :P

But I'll hate SX forever for not playing Evolution when I saw them live :'(

The Parasites by Brain Drill

i don't even understand how you can think that thrash or black or death metal musicians don't pour their hearts into their music. if you're making music, you're putting your heart into it. any musician knows this.

animetal, it's spelled "riff," not "rift." a riff is a catchy melodic part used in songs, and is usually guitar based. a rift is a crack, split, chasm, or break.

are you in a bad mood, animetal, which causing you to be more argumentative and contentious? this is worse than heaven's arguments, because he at least tries to accept the other side of the argument (not hating on you, heavenduff, it's a compliment if anything)

we're all arguing opinions here and this is just not going anywhere productive. i say everyone swallows their pride and ends this.