At 7/25/05 01:28 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Thats a question for each Metalheads:
What do you think about Speed Metal and what are the better Speed Metal bands that you know???

I like Kalmah, Inflames and Children of Bodom (I hope that its all Speed Metal)

Yeah... but... Inflames, do you mean In Flames?
In Flames are Melodic Death Metal, or Gothenburg Metal.

Anotehr good speed metal band is Grave Digger.

Also Primal Fear and Mystic Prophecy can also be considered Speed Metal..
Mystic Prophecy: Power Metal/Speed Metal/Thrash
Primal Fear: Power Metal/Speed Metal

Excelent fusions.

At 7/25/05 10:00 AM, jarrydn wrote: I heard the new 8 foot sativa a few days ago...I wouldn't call it death metal. It's probably the heaviest thing to come out of new zealand though. At least they're trying :).

As for Kalmah, Inflames and CoB being speed metal...yeah, they wouldn't be speed metal. They have certain speed metal elements, but essentially speed metal is just wanky thrash. Check out Cacophony.

COB is speed metal... In Flames isnt though.
And speed metal isnt wanky thrash... try listening to some Grave Digger, or Primal Fear...

At 7/25/05 12:41 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 7/24/05 11:20 PM, The_Ghoul wrote: I have been gone recently, on the road through oregon, washington, idaho, montana, utah, colorodo, and a few others. I will be home in a tad less then a week, so I will start recording music again, and then the full length will be released shortly afterward. t So I haven't been banned, I haven't been killed or maimed or sent to jail, so yatta yatta yatta and then you guys can get your dose of weirdness.

welcome back mister spammer, I'm surprised you didnt get banned from the BBS, once you posted 4 times the same thing in Metal Hell

Sry, I'm not a spammer, Heavenduff, I was using a fucking shitty connection and I didn't even know I posted, let alone four times. I kept on losing the connection, I thought NG was supposed to prevent that frm happenin. SORRY A LOT!!!

can i join my fav bands are a7x, lamb of god, black label society, and slayer

At 7/25/05 04:40 PM, The_Ghoul wrote:

At 7/25/05 12:41 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 7/24/05 11:20 PM, The_Ghoul wrote:

Sry, I'm not a spammer, Heavenduff, I was using a fucking shitty connection and I didn't even know I posted, let alone four times. I kept on losing the connection, I thought NG was supposed to prevent that frm happenin. SORRY A LOT!!!

Lol, I'm just joking, your one of the biggest member of The Metal Hell

At 7/25/05 05:51 PM, RANT_MAN wrote: can i join my fav bands are a7x, lamb of god, black label society, and slayer

Welcome to Metal Hell

There is to much different kind of metal, and I don't know how to put them in each group. I know that there is Heavy Metal, Trash Metal, Power Metal, Death Metal, Black Metal, Nu-Metal, Old Metal, tell me if I forgot some of the kinds of metal...

Id like to have some exemple from u guys, of bands of each kind of metal.
Thanks

At 7/25/05 08:06 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 7/25/05 05:51 PM, RANT_MAN wrote: can i join my fav bands are a7x, lamb of god, black label society, and slayer

Welcome to Metal Hell

There is to much different kind of metal, and I don't know how to put them in each group. I know that there is Heavy Metal, Trash Metal, Power Metal, Death Metal, Black Metal, Nu-Metal, Old Metal, tell me if I forgot some of the kinds of metal...

Id like to have some exemple from u guys, of bands of each kind of metal.
Thanks

Ok.... first of all... no such thing as "Old Metal"... its not a subgenre anyway.
There is also... Folk Metal, Speed Metal, Metalcore, Grindcore, "Gothenburg" Metal, Goth Metal, Groove Metal, Industrial Metal, Alternative Metal...

At 7/25/05 08:31 PM, -Tharikifa- wrote:

Id like to have some exemple from u guys, of bands of each kind of metal.
Thanks

Ok.... first of all... no such thing as "Old Metal"... its not a subgenre anyway.
There is also... Folk Metal, Speed Metal, Metalcore, Grindcore, "Gothenburg" Metal, Goth Metal, Groove Metal, Industrial Metal, Alternative Metal...

I knew about Speed Metal, Metalcore and Alternative Metal, I just forgot about those ;P

Can you give me some exemple of bands in each categories

At 7/25/05 08:34 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 7/25/05 08:31 PM, -Tharikifa- wrote:

Id like to have some exemple from u guys, of bands of each kind of metal.
Thanks

Ok.... first of all... no such thing as "Old Metal"... its not a subgenre anyway.
There is also... Folk Metal, Speed Metal, Metalcore, Grindcore, "Gothenburg" Metal, Goth Metal, Groove Metal, Industrial Metal, Alternative Metal...

I knew about Speed Metal, Metalcore and Alternative Metal, I just forgot about those ;P

Can you give me some exemple of bands in each categories

Sure...
Folk Metal: In Extremo (note: lyrics are in german)
Speed Metal: Grave Digger
Metalcore: Killswitch Engage, Lamb Of God
Gothenburg Metal: In Flames, Soilwork, Arch Enemy
Groove Metal: Pantera (has a little grove metal in there, but they are mainly Thrash)
Industrial Metal: Mnemic, Raunchy
Alt. Metal: System Of A Down, Nothingface

For Folk Metal I think that Finntroll could fit in this categorie.

I dont think that Lamb of God is Metalcore, metalcore is more like Atreyu and less heavier music than that

At 7/25/05 08:53 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: For Folk Metal I think that Finntroll could fit in this categorie.

I dont think that Lamb of God is Metalcore, metalcore is more like Atreyu and less heavier music than that

Atreyu is hardcore, which is not even metal. Lamb of God's older stuff, like before Ashes of the Wake, was mainly groove metal. Now they are pretty much metalcore, as their style of playing has changed quite a bit.

At 7/25/05 08:53 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: For Folk Metal I think that Finntroll could fit in this categorie.

Blackened Folk I'd say, but you are right :)

I dont think that Lamb of God is Metalcore, metalcore is more like Atreyu and less heavier music than that

No, I'd call Atreyu EMO.

At 7/27/05 09:32 PM, Goatchrist wrote:

At 7/25/05 08:53 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I dont think that Lamb of God is Metalcore, metalcore is more like Atreyu and less heavier music than that

No, I'd call Atreyu EMO.

Emo, Hardcore, Metalcore, and Grindcore are all similar styles, right... I'm not completekly sur about that because I have really only heard Metalcore.

And btw... the heaviness is random with Metalcore... compare bands like Killswitch Engage and Lamb Of God... they arre bothq uite heavy... but Killswitch Engage isnt quite as heavy... and as far as the clean parts... especially in songs like The End Of Heartache... it is not nearly as heavy.

At 7/28/05 01:05 AM, -Tharikifa- wrote:

At 7/27/05 09:32 PM, Goatchrist wrote:

At 7/25/05 08:53 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I dont think that Lamb of God is Metalcore, metalcore is more like Atreyu and less heavier music than that

No, I'd call Atreyu EMO.

Emo, Hardcore, Metalcore, and Grindcore are all similar styles, right... I'm not completekly sur about that because I have really only heard Metalcore.

grindcore is nothing like emo, hardcore or metalcore. listen to napalm death. they r fuckin heavy. so its probly closer to death metal than any of them

And btw... the heaviness is random with Metalcore... compare bands like Killswitch Engage and Lamb Of God... they arre bothq uite heavy... but Killswitch Engage isnt quite as heavy... and as far as the clean parts... especially in songs like The End Of Heartache... it is not nearly as heavy.

yeh end of heartache had SOOO much melody in it. i was like WTF. but its still a fuckin great album.

At 7/27/05 09:32 PM, Goatchrist wrote:

At 7/25/05 08:53 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: For Folk Metal I think that Finntroll could fit in this categorie.

Blackened Folk I'd say, but you are right :)

I dont think that Lamb of God is Metalcore, metalcore is more like Atreyu and less heavier music than that

No, I'd call Atreyu EMO.

EMO sounds a little bit more like punk, like My Chemical Romance or The Used. I still find that Atreyu is too much heavy to be EMO, its probably more like Metalcore than emo

the terminology is screamo :P and finntroll are black folk metal whereas korpiklanni are proper folk deffinatly worth checking out :D

Mnemic...Industrial Metal?? Oooook then...

CoB aren't speed metal.

Also, Mallcore is a great metal subgenre ;D

At 7/28/05 10:26 AM, jarrydn wrote: Mnemic...Industrial Metal?? Oooook then...

Yep... thats what they are... Industrial Metal... they also sound a bit Nu-Metalish...

CoB aren't speed metal.

Then what are they?

Also, Mallcore is a great metal subgenre ;D

Eh, its not bad... I do like some of teh Alt Metal, and bands like Mnemic... which are loosley Nu-Metal... but still are.

CoB are hard to categorise they have the harsh lyrics but the musical style can suggest power (lol) but as Tharikifa usually says they are speed metal, several reasons

1. they are fast (duh)
2. the lyrical content and style doesnt really put them into melodic black or melodic death

i would go with them being speed metal.

i am so in dude i love heavy metal!!!!!!!!! metallica is my favorite band!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At 7/29/05 10:45 AM, -Charon- wrote: CoB are hard to categorise they have the harsh lyrics but the musical style can suggest power (lol) but as Tharikifa usually says they are speed metal, several reasons

1. they are fast (duh)
2. the lyrical content and style doesnt really put them into melodic black or melodic death

i would go with them being speed metal.

Calling Speed Metal is more general really... and I do see a hint of Power Metal in there, they do fit in okay with bands like Primal Fear, only they are generally much faster... which only further proves that they are Speed... if they can outspeed a Speed/Power band. lol.
So if you want to get Technical, I would call them...

Melodic Speed Metal/Power Metal w/ Harsh Lyrics...

Wait... is there such a thing as Melodic Speed Metal?

At 7/29/05 01:01 PM, Phantom_Sniper_oncol wrote: i am so in dude i love heavy metal!!!!!!!!! metallica is my favorite band!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Any other Metal bands that you like?

Hi guys, I'm back, the full length will be done soon, please tell me now if you want a copy (TehGaySatanist, don't worry, I know you want one) S&H I will tell you (it depends on where you live) but it should be reasonable, the price of the full length is $18.

At 7/29/05 08:06 PM, FatMarley wrote: I guess I'll join this club...

Well then if you want in you are going to have to post some of your favorite metal bands...

Guys, what teh fuck is going on with the archives, every time I try going or seacrhing tehre I get:
This Account Has Been Suspended
Please contact the billing/support department as soon as possible.

The categorisation of Children Of Bodom is a topic that will never leave people completely happy. They have certain aspects from a few genres making them difficult to categorise. I find it better to just not worry about it.

Also, for folk metal listen to Elvenking. They are definitive of folk metal.

Regarding Metal Archives, I think they've been having some domain problems is all. I heard it was down a short while ago as well for that reason and it has recently come back online. I'm assuming it's the same sort of problems. Especially seeing as it has to do with billing.

Metal Archives is back up.

July 29th, 2005

Site problems (posted at 10:13)

Good morning everyone,

I'm sure you all realized the site has been very, very screwy lately. I'll try to explain what happened to the best of my knowledge (explanations from my host were limited despite my numerous inquiries).

After all the MAX_CONNECTIONS errors were getting out of hand, our host moved us to a new, more powerful server. In the process they managed to restore only an incomplete database, missing quite a few tables (including the User accounts and Reviews). The board was unaffected, since all the tables for it were fine.

So after I yelled at them about this, they restored it back fully - but instead of restoring the missing tables only they loaded EVERYTHING, including the forums, thus overwriting everything that had been posted on the board in the meantime.

But the host decided to limit our bandwidth "for testing", and they would "remove it shortly", causing us 24+ hours (hah, shortly) of excessive slowness. I inquired (at least three times) how long this would last and received no reply.

Then, the next thing I know yesterday evening, they overwrote the database content AGAIN, using the INCOMPLETE ONE. Why they did this is beyond me, I have not received any decent explanation about it. So not only were all the posts made in between both database copies gone, but the reviews and such were still not back up, causing a lot of errors. I preferred to shut down the site with the short message instead of having a messed up buggy one, I'm sure you understand why.

I have then sent a nasty message about this, demanding a refund, but so far, no official reply. I did, however, speak with the lead staff this morning on MSN about this. He restored the database again, and now it seems to run fine. Of course, once again the forum posts are overwritten, but there's nothing that can be done about that at this point, so you'll have to live with it.

I don't know for how long this site will be stable, but I was told they would monitor it carefully. Let's hope this is the last of our problems, at least for a while. *knocks on wood*

We're very sorry for all the problems and downtime. Unfortunately it was all beyond our control. We have received a lot of complaints by email, and we can't answer them all, so instead I posted this and I hope it clears up some confusion. Keep in mind that the traffic for Metal Archives is HUGE, and seemingly keeps on growing, which might account for those problems. If it was more affordable we'd look into going on a dedicated server, but our options are limited at this time.

Thanks for your comprehension, and enjoy the site once again - for now.
- Morrigan

I AM FUCKING METAL
were do i sign?

fav. bands fav. songs
-Slayer -Slipknot - Before I Forget
-Slipknot -Metallica - Ride THe Lightning
-Anthrax -Metallica - Master Of Pupets
-Metallica -Lamb of God - Laid To Rest
-Korn -Anthrax - Death Rider
-Judas Priest -Iron Maiden - The Evil That Men Do
-Iron Maiden -Slayer - Rainng Blood

At 7/30/05 12:27 PM, Pickelson wrote: fav. bands fav. songs
-Slayer -Slipknot - Before I Forget
-Slipknot -Metallica - Ride THe Lightning
-Anthrax -Metallica - Master Of Pupets
-Metallica -Lamb of God - Laid To Rest
-Korn -Anthrax - Death Rider
-Judas Priest -Iron Maiden - The Evil That Men Do
-Iron Maiden -Slayer - Rainng Blood

fuck, i screwed up lets try that again
Bands:Slipknot, Metallica, Megadeth, Korn, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Slayer

Songs: Metallica - Ride the Lightning , Metallica - Master Of Pupets, Lamb of God - Laid To Rest, Anthrax - Death Rider, Iron Maiden - The Evil That Men Do, Slayer - Rainng Blood

At 7/30/05 12:31 PM, Pickelson wrote:

At 7/30/05 12:27 PM, Pickelson wrote: fav. bands fav. songs
-Slayer -Slipknot - Before I Forget
-Slipknot -Metallica - Ride THe Lightning
-Anthrax -Metallica - Master Of Pupets
-Metallica -Lamb of God - Laid To Rest
-Korn -Anthrax - Death Rider
-Judas Priest -Iron Maiden - The Evil That Men Do
-Iron Maiden -Slayer - Rainng Blood

fuck, i screwed up lets try that again
Bands:Slipknot, Metallica, Megadeth, Korn, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Slayer

Songs: Metallica - Ride the Lightning , Metallica - Master Of Pupets, Lamb of God - Laid To Rest, Anthrax - Death Rider, Iron Maiden - The Evil That Men Do, Slayer - Rainng Blood

Not my style, but what can I say, welcome to the hell!!!! Btw, would you like a copy of my next full length? It will be out in 3 days to a week, and it's the total fucking awesomeness!!! Ask TehGaySatanist, Gorebastard, Goatchrist, or maybe even -Tharifika- about it, they will be happy to give an objective review of me.