At 4/14/09 09:09 PM, batman64 wrote: Checking back into the psyche ward in the morning, things have been bad and I ran out of meds.
Found out I do not have a doc anymore so I have to do something.
I have been in hell for a few weeks now.
I will miss you all.

Meds, psychiatric wards...ugh...

I don't like being reminded of these things, especially in light of my own mental issues, but I hope you get whatever relief it is that you need.

I've been hospitalized at the St. Vincent's psychiatric ward (it's in Greenwich Village, Manhattan) on three separate occasions--all involuntarily--and my experiences there were miserable. I'm still trying to forget as much of it as I can. I was sent for extreme depression-related issues (suicide threats, zero motivation, violent mood swings, etc.), but I also suffer from schizophrenia as well. I wasn't helped, only hurt, and put on drugs that made me feel worse than before. Hell, more than 2 years after my last discharge, it's fair to say that my problems have only been exacerbated greatly. Given the condition I'm in right now, most people would say that I absolutely need to be hospitalized. But I've learned my lesson, and I know modern psychiatry is going to continue to fuck me over like it has done in the past.

At 4/14/09 08:12 PM, Idiosyncratic wrote: Everyone just needs to deal with little Ponos here. He's afraid of different opinions.

The only thing I'm afraid of is the Metal Hell turned into a bunch of pop listening idiots. I was just reading some old pages last night, and everyone was telling Duff about how CoB suck. Now I'm getting told I'm afraid of different opinions? Goooooosh.

At 4/14/09 04:50 PM, ZpLiNtEh wrote: I don't see what's wrong with melodeath, Children of Bodom, At The Gates...it's all good.

CoB and ATG don't really float my boat.

At 4/14/09 05:41 PM, TakeNoPrisoners wrote:

At 4/14/09 02:04 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Helloween

I Want Out has incredibly shitty lyrics. That concludes my contribution to this topic.

The song is great. Have you seen the film clip!?

I WANT OUT!

TO LIIIIIIIIIIIVE MYYYYYYYYYYYY LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFE AGAIN

Or something like that. That dude can wail.

At 4/14/09 03:58 PM, AniMetal wrote: Hey Ponos, shut up.

SOME melodic death metal is awesome, and since you were the one you said once that melodic death metal = Modern death metal I think you really have no idea what it is.

In fact you probably like some Melodeath bands, but just don't realize that it's melodic.

Also Darkane is awesome.

Well that's the stupidest thing I've ever seen in writing.

The only way melodeath is modern is because before the mid-nineties people didn't play melodeath, excluding Heartwork because that wasn't too bad. Now, when you pick up death metal albums from before the melodeath illness, you will find that they kick a bit more arse. The illness progressed, nu-metal, metalcore and deathcore all emerged. And now if you ask someone if they like death metal, they will just go on about how much they love Waking the Cadavar and See you Next Tuesday. I'm not trying to tune you all out, I'm just stating what's obvious.

The reasons I've said I hate modern death metal? Because of the illness I guess, and because of the production I guess. I just prefer that old thrashyier sound, instead of the clean glossy ones today.

I don't listen to any melodic death metal bands. The many I've listened to might aswell substitute the word "melodic" for, "poppy dancing music for you 13 year olds, because I want money and I'm not that brilliant at guitar".

Darkane don't tickle my fancy. Too pole-up-your-arse commercial tripe sounding.

And the reasons I said I used to like Cryptopsy's first two albums, and then I got into death metal? Because that's what happened. Now I don't really feel those albums. I can sense illness in them. And looky what happened, they went deathcore.

I was like fuckin Yoda and shit. I'm not fucking training you Annakin, I sense evil in your heart. And he grew up to be Vader.

..... I can't think of a Vader joke, I never listened to them.

At 4/14/09 06:39 AM, ThePhantomLord wrote: Haha, I was just stunned at the insult. 15 year old fagget with a shitty haircut? I'm 16, fagget is spelt 'faggot', and my hair rules. What is with you? I think your MODERN MELOGAY HAS MADE YOU A SHITTY INSULTER :D:D:D:D:D

lol, so your 16 now. Funny, your not any different from what you were before.

And as the other guys said, there is so many different bands falling under the name Melodic Death Metal, that you simply cannot judge of a whole sub-genre by making generalizations.

Now that you grew up a little ;)
you may be a little more mature. So I'll list you my favorite Melodeath bands, check out those you don't know, or maybe give a second chance to those you do know. If you don't like the music, it's alright, but you'll have to admit that there is talent, work, energy, agressivity and creativity in their music.

Here it goes

Amorphis
Arch Enemy
Arsis
Blinded By Faith
Children Of Bodom
Dark Tranquillity
Darkane
Ensiferum
Falchion
Kalmah
Nightrage
Profugus Mortis
Scar Symmetry
Threat Signal
Warmen
Wintersun

The bands that I have written in Italic are some that you should listen to really carefuly, as they are bands that I consider being awesome bands. The perfect example would be Threat Signal... they make a kind of progressive technical melodic death. If you could just put your hate for melodeath aside and listen very well, you would realise that it's a gold mine.
Just like Arsis, that can be classified as Technical Melodic Death Metal.

Btw, Threat Signal make the best Breakdowns :P

Oh and I saw somewhere that some stuff by Ulver was classified as Trip-hop and I'm not quite sure about the definition of this music genre, so if anyone knows a very good way to describe it, than feel free to tell me :)

Listenning to right now : When All Is Said And Done by Threat Signal

'Facepalm'

Technical Melodic Death Metal?

More like completely shitty emo garbage for little fat emo girls.

I'm not checking out anything else you recommended after that mate. You've succumb to the illness of modern pop metal. Have fun with that.

Rap with Metal riffs
Fuck yes.

At 4/14/09 09:09 PM, batman64 wrote: I will miss you all.

Damn, sorry to hear about these unfortunate events. I hope things get well soon.

Must you two keep doing this?

In other news, checked out Keeper of the Seven Keys Part 1.

While I'm Alive is probably better than all the songs on Part 2 combined, (and then some) the rest of the album wasn't very memorable. The aforementioned I'm Alive, Twilight of the Gods, and Halloween are the only songs that stick in my head. And Twilight of the Gods wasn't very good.

More like completely shitty emo garbage for little fat emo girls.

I like it, mostly because I'm now very open to almost any kind of music, except for RnB, load of bollocks.

If I told you guys half the bands I listen to and like, you wouldn't want to speak to me lol
I love metal, but I like some less heavy stuff too...

take take take take take take it away....

If anyone guesses who that is, they must listen to the band themselves, or be good at googling.

At 4/15/09 08:16 AM, DeIirium wrote: Rap with Metal riffs
Fuck yes.

The vocals sound weird with the guitar in the background, should be screaming/growling imo

At 4/15/09 09:38 AM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: While I'm Alive is probably better than all the songs on Part 2 combined, (and then some) the rest of the album wasn't very memorable.

Just give it some time. I first thought most of the tracks weren't very memorable, but now I love every single track on the album. However, as great as I'm Alive is, it doesn't beat the song Keeper of the Seven Keys.

At 4/14/09 10:53 PM, ThePhantomLord wrote: The only thing I'm afraid of is the Metal Hell turned into a bunch of pop listening idiots.

That is not going to happen. Ever.
The only danger is everyone leaving due to non-stop arguments about Melodeath. Then this place being taken over by the people you're moaning about.

I was just reading some old pages last night, and everyone was telling Duff about how CoB suck. Now I'm getting told I'm afraid of different opinions? Goooooosh.

CoB do suck. And I'll tell people that but I'll leave it at that too.
You have to carry on and carry on with your preaching that isn't going to change shit. Duff likes his music, live with it. It doesn't make him a lesser person.

There is fighting the Elitist cause and theres fighting it so much that you alienate everyone how might agree with you due to huge doses of 'not being that bothered, really'.

You're in the latter Ponos my love.

I was like fuckin Yoda and shit. I'm not fucking training you Annakin, I sense evil in your heart. And he grew up to be Vader.

Then he saved the world by turning back.
Luke was gonna die in that Death Star.

At 4/15/09 09:38 AM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: While I'm Alive is probably better than all the songs on Part 2 combined

Whatthefuckcracker!
Eagle Fly Free, Dr. Stein, I Want Out and Keeper of the Seven Keys all disagree with you.

Only Halloween from Part 1 can fight most of Part 2 and win.
Actually Halloween > all of Part 2.

At 4/15/09 09:41 AM, ZpLiNtEh wrote: If I told you guys half the bands I listen to and like, you wouldn't want to speak to me lol
I love metal, but I like some less heavy stuff too...

Meh.
I listen to Miley Cyrus.

No one actually cares whether or not everything you listen to is Metal.

At 4/15/09 09:41 AM, Bahamut wrote: Just give it some time. I first thought most of the tracks weren't very memorable, but now I love every single track on the album. However, as great as I'm Alive is, it doesn't beat the song Keeper of the Seven Keys.

Few things do :).

At 4/15/09 10:38 AM, Nev wrote:
Meh.
I listen to Miley Cyrus.

srs?

:O

I wouldn't really care if you guys hated the bands i like anyway, although i doubt many people here like 30STM, The Used and BMTH XD

The Black Dahlia Murder - Miasma

JUST ANOTHER PIECE OF SHIT! >:D

At 4/14/09 10:53 PM, ThePhantomLord wrote:

At 4/14/09 08:12 PM, Idiosyncratic wrote: Everyone just needs to deal with little Ponos here. He's afraid of different opinions.

The only thing I'm afraid of is the Metal Hell turned into a bunch of pop listening idiots. I was just reading some old pages last night, and everyone was telling Duff about how CoB suck. Now I'm getting told I'm afraid of different opinions? Goooooosh.

I don't see why what we listen to really bothers you that much. We're not turning into pop listening idiots, or at least I'm not.

At 4/15/09 08:16 AM, DeIirium wrote: Rap with Metal riffs
Fuck yes.

Sounds a little like Papa Roach or Rage Against the Machine to me.

The problem with Rap is that it needs to be just right, otherwise it's going to sound a mess. The guy who wrote the lyrics for Last Resort kind of bailed out on a few of the lines, which was sad.

At 4/15/09 10:38 AM, Nev wrote:

At 4/15/09 09:38 AM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: While I'm Alive is probably better than all the songs on Part 2 combined

Whatthefuckcracker!
Eagle Fly Free, Dr. Stein, I Want Out and Keeper of the Seven Keys all disagree with you.

Actually, that was a tad stupid of me.

Keeper of the Seven Keys owns it.

Only Halloween from Part 1 can fight most of Part 2 and win.
Actually Halloween > all of Part 2.

I never got all the love for Halloween.

Aside from the 'In the streets on Halloween...' bits, which are probably the most catchy sections of any song in musical history, Keeper is much better.

You could maybe argue that Halloween is more progressive than Keeper, though.

And also, I always thought they should have named it 'Helloween'.

At 4/15/09 02:09 PM, batman64 wrote:

No loony bin for me this time.

Guess you guys are stuck with me for awhile.
So let the Metal reign and keep it heavy.

Awesome, you seem like a good guy :)

On a side note, would you guys call Bring Me the Horizon metal? I think they are, but I know a lot of people hate them, mainly because of Mister Sykes, 2 of my friends (who are girls) love him, all my guy friends hate him, lulz.

God I feel angry, not sure why, but I feel very depressed all of a sudden..hm

Bring Me the Horizon is borderline and I'll have to mull it over. But don't get your hopes up, expect my decision to be no. Actually, I'll just make a definitive statement now: no.

At 4/15/09 03:13 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Aside from the 'In the streets on Halloween...' bits, which are probably the most catchy sections of any song in musical history, Keeper is much better.

I'm not fond of the chorus. I love the guitar solos and most of all love the verses.
MASQUERADE, MASQUERADE!
Grab your mask and don't be late...
GET OUT NOW!
With heat and a fever.. lar lar lar... TONIIIIGHHHTTT!

Both songs are brilliant though. There is no point in comparing them. Its better to just unite them and make them gang up on lesser songs.

You could maybe argue that Halloween is more progressive than Keeper, though.

I dunno. Keeper has more of a concept behind it. Like the dual solos at the end I always picture a fight between the goodies and badies and each them taking control over the fight with the swappage of solos.

But with each at 14 minutes at length its like saying Dream Theater are more Progressive than Symphony X.

Though they clearly are.

And also, I always thought they should have named it 'Helloween'.

They'd used up that pun in the name.

At 4/15/09 04:48 PM, ZpLiNtEh wrote: On a side note, would you guys call Bring Me the Horizon metal?

The Metal-Archives do. But I consider it a time when MA is awfully wrong.

At 4/14/09 10:53 PM, ThePhantomLord wrote:

At 4/14/09 08:12 PM, Idiosyncratic wrote: Everyone just needs to deal with little Ponos here. He's afraid of different opinions.

The only thing I'm afraid of is the Metal Hell turned into a bunch of pop listening idiots. I was just reading some old pages last night, and everyone was telling Duff about how CoB suck. Now I'm getting told I'm afraid of different opinions? Goooooosh.

Shut up ponos. There's a difference between having opinions and being a total twat about it. I should get you a box of tampons and some vagasil, because you're being a total blubbering vagina. In fact, I don't care if people here listen to pop. This is a forum for discussion about metal, and about how awesome metal is, not about how everything else sucks. If you don't like something, say it, and leave it at that. You know what you're doing, and it's shit like that that made me leave the 'hell for aeons. Learn your place, Marshall Cooper.

Can I join this club?

I'm supposed to list bands I like right?

Megadeth
Metallica
Dark Angel
Slayer
The Faceless
Lamb Of God
Death
Strapping Young Lad
Morbid Angel
Bad Acid Trip (hardly though)
Kreator

I'm open to more.

At 4/15/09 06:14 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote: Since when have they been right?

Fair point. But its tradition that this place cares about that they place thinks.

Pulp - Common People (Different Class)

At 4/15/09 06:11 PM, TheWhatsit wrote: Can I join this club?

I'm supposed to list bands I like right?

Megadeth
Metallica
Dark Angel
Slayer
The Faceless
Lamb Of God
Death
Strapping Young Lad
Morbid Angel
Bad Acid Trip (hardly though)
Kreator

I'm open to more.

You're definitely in. As the 3rd horseman, I say Welcome to Eternal Hell!

At 4/15/09 02:50 AM, ThePhantomLord wrote: 'Facepalm'

Technical Melodic Death Metal?

More like completely shitty emo garbage for little fat emo girls.

This is one of their most awesome song, but it wasn't the title you should have checked.
Rational Eyes and When All Is Said And Done are more likely to sound like technical melodic death metal.

And really... A New Beginning is a great song, with awesome progression and awesome structure. You call it pop, but I've never heard anything like it anywhere. You just consider your opinions as facts. There is a lack of any kind of structured analysis (or analyze... can't tell the difference) in your opinions...

I'm not checking out anything else you recommended after that mate. You've succumb to the illness of modern pop metal. Have fun with that.

You've succumbed to stupidity. If you refuse to listen to any of my music and that you judge of an artist or worst... of a sub-genre just by listenning to one track, than you completely lost any kind of artistic intelligence.
I also suspect you of only trying to find the one song in my musical tastes that would allow you to make me look like a emo, instead of listenning to it properly.

Listenning to right now : Creed Of The Infidel by Suffocation

I'm sorry for double-posting but I really have to make this clear.
Ponos is trying to make me look like a pop metal fan, but that's a fucking lie...

The difference between me and Ponos is that I can listen to many different music genres no matter how they are classified. And I'm not going to spit on a band just cause some kids told me they were not underground enough. I could make Ponos look like a Pop Metal fan just by stating the obvious fact that he is the biggest Black Sabbath fan in here... and you cannot get any closer to pop metal than Black Sabbath (let's not mention Metallica and Maiden please...)

the bands that I've listenned to the most during the last few days are
Origin, Agalloch, Ulver, Darkane, Blotted Science and Cryptopsy

You would also realise that I'm a big fan of bands like Equilibrium and Profugus Mortis if you'd check my last.fm charts.

I don't have to proove myself to anyone, but I don't like it when people have misconceptions about me (I hope I wrote that properly).

Listenning to right now : Downward To Nothing by Hatesphere

At 4/15/09 11:23 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: and you cannot get any closer to pop metal than Black Sabbath (let's not mention Metallica and Maiden please...)

Whats so pop about them? Unless you mean popular, well, yeah, thats true.

But even then if thats all this arguing is about, because people listen to popular bands that are borderline mainstream then aren't we all pop-fags? The reason we found these bands is because they were there as a gateway to all this less-known kvlt vndergrovnd metal we've come across.

If you don't like popular music, stop giving your awesome underground stuff its attention, then less people will listen to it, the media/big record companies wont take notice of it, and you can take satisfaction in that.

this was epic practice for a uni assignment i have.

At 4/15/09 11:23 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I don't have to proove myself to anyone

Then drop it.

I just got back from Palm Springs, visiting my grandparents. I just scrolled quickly down the page without stopping to read anything. From what I gather, I see Heaven has gotten himself in another argument.

It's good to be back. No metal-related news.

At 4/16/09 02:11 AM, D3NTATUS wrote: From what I gather, I see Heaven has gotten himself in another argument.

It was the double post and the huge quoting that gave it away wasn't it?

Don't worry Duff, not taking the piss.

Does anyone else with an xbox 360 notice that people just make an account for a band's name and put a free 48 hour subscription card or something along those lines on it so other people can't use it? Seriously fucking annoying. I've been trying to change my bloody name for three days straight and I always name my account after an album or band. Yet every one I try is taken by people that do that shit.

At 4/16/09 03:27 AM, AllMightyBruce wrote: Does anyone else with an xbox 360 notice that people just make an account for a band's name and put a free 48 hour subscription card or something along those lines on it so other people can't use it? Seriously fucking annoying. I've been trying to change my bloody name for three days straight and I always name my account after an album or band. Yet every one I try is taken by people that do that shit.

I've never actually noticed that. What are you trying to change your gamertag to? I'm pretty sure if it's something obscure like V:28 or Beherit it isn't taken, but pfff what do I know.

At 4/15/09 10:38 AM, Nev wrote: Only Halloween from Part 1 can fight most of Part 2 and win.
Actually Halloween > all of Part 2.

Actually, Halloween and Keeper of the Seven Keys > All of both parts :P

At 4/15/09 02:09 PM, batman64 wrote: Guess you guys are stuck with me for awhile.
So let the Metal reign and keep it heavy.

Awesome, glad to hear you back!

At 4/15/09 05:43 PM, Nev wrote: Both songs are brilliant though. There is no point in comparing them. Its better to just unite them and make them gang up on lesser songs.

Haha, I've tried deciding which out of Halloween and Keeper of the Seven Keys is better, but I am never sure which one I like more. All I can say is I like both equally.