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burnoutfool
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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-30 20:38:53

At 3/30/09 08:19 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: Yes, black metal screaming may be hard, but to tell you the truth, it's easy as balls. I am practicing singing (actual singing) and it's fukken hard. All you have to do with screaming is belt out like you're an orc. To sing requires control, lung power, and proper technique so you don't shred your vocal cords.

they require two different practices, you cannot compare them...Black metal style screaming and Death metal style screaming are hard, because if you fuck up you can destroy your voice.

Singing is hard because it is hard to change the pitch of your voice, however it doesnt take as long to learn as say becoming an expert drummer/guitarist/basist.

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ElGhoulio
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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-30 20:40:56

At 3/30/09 08:38 PM, burnoutfool wrote:
At 3/30/09 08:19 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: Yes, black metal screaming may be hard, but to tell you the truth, it's easy as balls. I am practicing singing (actual singing) and it's fukken hard. All you have to do with screaming is belt out like you're an orc. To sing requires control, lung power, and proper technique so you don't shred your vocal cords.
they require two different practices, you cannot compare them...Black metal style screaming and Death metal style screaming are hard, because if you fuck up you can destroy your voice.

I don't know what you're talking about. Screaming/growling is second nature for me. And it required absolutely no practice. Actual singing is hard as hell, or at least singing well. Having pitch is easy, but having the lung power behind it is hard.

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burnoutfool
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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-30 20:52:09

At 3/30/09 08:40 PM, ElGhoulio wrote: I don't know what you're talking about. Screaming/growling is second nature for me. And it required absolutely no practice. Actual singing is hard as hell, or at least singing well. Having pitch is easy, but having the lung power behind it is hard.

your one of few that say that, most people say that they have a hard time dealing with the scratchyness of grinding the vocal chords together or some other excuse...for me the singing and the screaming are about the same toughness.

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burnoutfool
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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-30 20:57:33

At 3/30/09 08:55 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:
Look at Phil Anselmo.

He used to be able to sing. Then his voice got ruined by heroin and he could only scream after that.

well first off, Fuck pantera >:|

and second, his voice was destroyed by heroin, not singing, so this isnt relevant.

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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-30 21:03:22

At 3/30/09 08:59 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:
At 3/30/09 08:57 PM, burnoutfool wrote: well first off, Fuck pantera >:|
You know he was in more bands, right?

ya but the only one I really hate is pantera...and its also the most famous of all his bands (thanks to dimebag...the only reason I can even TALK about pantera)

and second, his voice was destroyed by heroin, not singing, so this isnt relevant.
What I mean is it became more difficult for him to sing normally after becoming addicted to heroin.

still, it doesnt mean that he sang/screamed to fuck up his voice, therefore its not relevent to what I was saying

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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-30 21:17:54

At 3/30/09 09:11 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:
At 3/30/09 09:03 PM, burnoutfool wrote: ya but the only one I really hate is pantera...and its also the most famous of all his bands (thanks to dimebag...the only reason I can even TALK about pantera)
What's to hate about them anyways?

everything...minus dimebag's guitarwork and Vinnie's drum beats.

still, it doesnt mean that he sang/screamed to fuck up his voice, therefore its not relevent to what I was saying
Screaming does hurt your voice, but ElGhoulio was saying it's harder to actually sing than scream. If actual singing was easier, Anselmo would have been able to sing on Pantera's later releases after his heroin addiction.

sometimes its easier to sing...Anselmo was singing in a really easy type of singing...I can almost perfectly immitate his voice...I cannot however immitate good singers like King Diamond, Freddy Mercury (call me gay), or even say Eddie Vedder.

on a side note :D

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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-30 21:30:52

At 3/30/09 09:26 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:
At 3/30/09 09:17 PM, burnoutfool wrote: everything...minus dimebag's guitarwork and Vinnie's drum beats.
That's already half the band and I see nothing wrong with Rex Brown.

nothing wrong or good.

sometimes its easier to sing...Anselmo was singing in a really easy type of singing...I can almost perfectly immitate his voice...I cannot however immitate good singers like King Diamond, Freddy Mercury (call me gay), or even say Eddie Vedder.
Freddie Mercury was a great singer, his sexual orientation means nothing to me.

he is an amazing singer :D

But there are much worse singers than Anselmo.

this is also true, I mean, hes not SO bad, there is just something about his voice :|

on a side note :D
Seen it. But I guess it's fitting because King Diamond is in Guitar Hero Metallica.

ya I just think its funny...and I also mentioned King Diamond earlier...King Diamond's appearance is for the Mercyful Fate song "Evil" in GH:Metallica

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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-30 21:46:06

At 3/30/09 09:35 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:
It's kind of odd how the real King is scarier...

the real king is amazing :D

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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-30 22:04:40

At 3/30/09 09:35 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote:
At 3/30/09 09:30 PM, burnoutfool wrote: ya I just think its funny...and I also mentioned King Diamond earlier...King Diamond's appearance is for the Mercyful Fate song "Evil" in GH:Metallica
It's kind of odd how the real King is scarier...

meh... King Diamond just fails with his wanna be dark and mysterious look...

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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-30 22:22:05

At 3/30/09 10:04 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: meh... King Diamond just fails with his wanna be dark and mysterious look...

Doesn't make him any less of a badass.

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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-30 22:35:53

At 3/30/09 10:22 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Doesn't make him any less of a badass.

He always reminds me of the uncle your parents told you to stay away from at family reunions.

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burnoutfool
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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-30 22:50:00

At 3/30/09 10:35 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote:
At 3/30/09 10:22 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Doesn't make him any less of a badass.
He always reminds me of the uncle your parents told you to stay away from at family reunions.

he reminds me of the guy at family reunions that you dont know and doesnt speak except to say something awesome

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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-30 23:03:21

At 3/30/09 10:50 PM, burnoutfool wrote:
At 3/30/09 10:35 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote:
At 3/30/09 10:22 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Doesn't make him any less of a badass.
He always reminds me of the uncle your parents told you to stay away from at family reunions.
he reminds me of the guy at family reunions that you dont know and doesnt speak except to say something awesome

That's kind of weird, he just reminds me of Mercyful Fate's lead singer.

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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-30 23:05:17

At 3/30/09 11:03 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: That's kind of weird, he just reminds me of Mercyful Fate's lead singer.

...you forgot that he also does his own music D:
so do you prefer Mercyful Fate or his solo stuff more?

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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-30 23:10:08

At 3/30/09 05:44 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote: Whatever happened to the Grimclub?

I think that place died shortly after Ghoul left.

Speaking of which is the Grindcore Gore Pit (or whatever is was called) still around?

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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-30 23:10:52

At 3/30/09 11:05 PM, burnoutfool wrote: so do you prefer Mercyful Fate or his solo stuff more?

I dunno, I don't really listen to much of either.

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burnoutfool
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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-30 23:14:42

At 3/30/09 11:10 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: I dunno, I don't really listen to much of either.

for me I'd have to say that I prefer his solo stuff...he actually did good on his new song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tl-N9FJM pY&feature=PlayList&p=D44713E852E7D4EF&p laynext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=16

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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-30 23:42:06

At 3/30/09 11:10 PM, Oppugnant wrote:
At 3/30/09 05:44 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote: Whatever happened to the Grimclub?
Speaking of which is the Grindcore Gore Pit (or whatever is was called) still around?

Man, that was a big kick in the face of nostalgia, i still remember when both those clubs were around.

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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-30 23:43:05

At 3/30/09 11:05 PM, burnoutfool wrote:
At 3/30/09 11:03 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: That's kind of weird, he just reminds me of Mercyful Fate's lead singer.
...you forgot that he also does his own music D:
so do you prefer Mercyful Fate or his solo stuff more?

his solo stuff is gay...
the lyrics are ridiculous...

Now the sun is slowly going down
I can hear... Devil Lake is quiet now
Magic, Magic come home
Say goodbye to your butterfly
cause night time is coming our way

I think they really are wannabe dark and mysterious piece of crap...

and that song (Neverending Hill) is just so totally based on the first riff of Painkiller by Judas Priest :P

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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-30 23:50:07

At 3/30/09 11:43 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: his solo stuff is gay...

*disapproving stare.*

the lyrics are ridiculous...

I see nothing wrong with the below lyrics. Metal isn't know for it's lyricism... I mean, Necrophagist and Cannibal Corpse have awful lyrics.

I think they really are wannabe dark and mysterious piece of crap...

But what about the musical content? Lyrics are nice, but when it comes to music, isn't the music the most important part?

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burnoutfool
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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-30 23:51:25

At 3/30/09 11:43 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
At 3/30/09 11:05 PM, burnoutfool wrote:
At 3/30/09 11:03 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: That's kind of weird, he just reminds me of Mercyful Fate's lead singer.
...you forgot that he also does his own music D:
so do you prefer Mercyful Fate or his solo stuff more?
his solo stuff is gay...

songs cannot have a sexuality ;P

the lyrics are ridiculous...

well fucking duh! alot of lyrics are ridiculous, but he has talent...hes one of few Natural falcettos.

I think they really are wannabe dark and mysterious piece of crap...

Opinions are like assholes: everybody has one

and that song (Neverending Hill) is just so totally based on the first riff of Painkiller by Judas Priest :P

lol ya it is.

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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-31 02:06:09

At 3/30/09 09:17 PM, burnoutfool wrote:

sometimes its easier to sing...Anselmo was singing in a really easy type of singing...I can almost perfectly immitate his voice...I cannot however immitate good singers like King Diamond, Freddy Mercury (call me gay), or even say Eddie Vedder.

on a side note :D

None of those singers are really that great. An example of a good singer would be Sir Russell Allen, or Eric Adams, or Tim Ripper Owens, or Piet Sielck, Vintersorg, or Garm/Trickster G./God Head/whatever pseudonym he goes by nowadays. And of the "big 4" of grunge Layne Staley was the best singer.

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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-31 03:02:25

=-And eys, I'm fukkend drunk, so waht. I've been drunk all day. Wine + meds + dxm = falling over sloppuy drunk.

And my guilty pleasure is The Kovenant's S.E.T.I.

IU knopw it is full of teen angst and marylin manson worship, but doggonit if it isn't the most professionally done and best exuecusted NIN worship with a NOrghe twist to it.

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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-31 04:47:24

At 3/31/09 03:02 AM, ElGhoulio wrote: =-And eys, I'm fukkend drunk, so waht.

I miss the talks we had about your drug trips :(

In other news, acquired Ancient Rites - Dim Carcosa, MA says Folk/Viking/Black, but i say it sounds more Folk-like then Viking. Nonetheless, something you guys should all have a listen to.

and the singer sounds like the dude from Rammstein at times.
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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-31 06:43:19

At 3/30/09 05:44 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote: Whatever happened to the Grimclub?

I think I ruined that thing when I was an idiot.

At 3/30/09 10:35 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote:
At 3/30/09 10:22 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Doesn't make him any less of a badass.
He always reminds me of the uncle your parents told you to stay away from at family reunions.

Hahaha, I'm never going to able not to think of him like that now.

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At 3/30/09 11:50 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: I see nothing wrong with the below lyrics. Metal isn't know for it's lyricism... I mean, Necrophagist and Cannibal Corpse have awful lyrics.

Cannibal Corpse lyrics are awesome.

She was so beautiful
I had to kill her

Strangulation caused her death
Just like all the others
Raped before and after death
Stripped, naked, tortured

They're all dead, they're all dead
They're all dead, by strangulation

I come alive in the darkness
Left murdered and nameless
Dead unburied and rotten
Half eaten by insects

It felt so good to kill

I took their lives away
7 dead, lying rotten
Unburied victims
their naked bodies putrefy

I think they really are wannabe dark and mysterious piece of crap...
But what about the musical content? Lyrics are nice, but when it comes to music, isn't the music the most important part?

Those Kind Diamond lyrics were fine. And Dent is correct.

And Ghoul knows singing.

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(Ignore everything HeavenDuff says :D)

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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-31 09:34:27

At 3/31/09 06:43 AM, ThePhantomLord wrote: Cannibal Corpse lyrics are awesome.

I stand corrected. Necrophagist's lyrics are still awful, especially on Onset of Putrefaction.

Dismembering - to chop her body I begin
Bastard - bastard inside
Disfiguring - abdominal wall is opening
Offal - come to sight

Malintention, to chop the foetus I intent, hateful am I
Vile malodours, rancid odours I perceive
I'm getting high

Hate and repulsion is that
Which strenghtens my intent
Fetal incising causes premature decease
Loathing am I to commit
Infanticide in unborn state
To tear out the foetus, my aggressions do increase

Mutilate the stillborn
Mutilate the stillborn
Mutilate the stillborn
Mutilate the stillborn

Dismanteling - excoriate the dead unborn
Vile waste - vile waste inside is
Festering - prenatal fluids I adore
Offal - come to sight

Mutilation, the stillborn body chopped in half
Hateful am I
Disemboweling,
The torso drained of tepid bowels
I'm getting high

SENTENCE FRAGMENTS ARE TOTALLY METAL

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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-31 09:48:29

At 3/30/09 07:30 AM, ThePhantomLord wrote: And I agree that Ghoul's MA reviews kick arse.

Most certainly. His reviews are some of the best on MA.

At 3/30/09 11:07 AM, D3NTATUS wrote: Also.

Haha, that's awesome!

At 3/30/09 12:06 PM, Piromano wrote:
UFO - Doctor Doctor

Brilliant song, even though it's the only song of theirs I've heard so far. I remember what the crowd were like at the Iron Maiden concert when this was played before the actual thing started.

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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-31 09:57:14

HOLY SHIT GUYS

http://www.midstatefair.com/news_details .php?id=406

THIS IS LIKE HALF AN HOUR AWAY FROM ME I HAVE NO EXCUSE NOT TO GO TO THIS

... whitesnake?
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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-31 10:36:37

At 3/31/09 04:47 AM, SpeedMetalSandwich wrote:
At 3/31/09 03:02 AM, ElGhoulio wrote: =-And eys, I'm fukkend drunk, so waht.
I miss the talks we had about your drug trips :(

I dunno bout drugs, but I shure have a splitting headache right now. ;)

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Response to Metal Hell 2009-03-31 10:42:41

At 3/31/09 09:57 AM, D3NTATUS wrote: HOLY SHIT GUYS

http://www.midstatefair.com/news_details .php?id=406

THIS IS LIKE HALF AN HOUR AWAY FROM ME I HAVE NO EXCUSE NOT TO GO TO THIS

... whitesnake?

I dunno about Whitesnake but Judas Priest should be cool, let's hope they play Painkiller or The Sentinel.

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