Clearly you don't go to this school.

Posted that before, but it saves time describing it.

I kind of got the impression that Ryans band was maybe anti religious or offensive, and not power-fail.

At 2/18/09 01:05 PM, sirtom93 wrote:

Clearly you don't go to this school.

Posted that before, but it saves time describing it.

I kind of got the impression that Ryans band was maybe anti religious or offensive, and not power-fail.

I was playing fucking Enter Sandman.

Hardly Anti Religious or Offensive.

I would have played one of my own songs, but it had to be from the 60's-90's.

At 2/18/09 01:21 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: I was playing fucking Enter Sandman.

Maybe they aren't Black Album fans.

At 2/18/09 12:41 AM, Idiosyncratic wrote: Again, Godflesh is worth having in your library,

I've been a bit into them, but have yet to get a whole album of theirs. I have some tracks on my computer and I've listened to them on Myspace and Pandora.

At 2/18/09 01:21 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:

At 2/18/09 01:05 PM, sirtom93 wrote:

Clearly you don't go to this school.

Posted that before, but it saves time describing it.

I kind of got the impression that Ryans band was maybe anti religious or offensive, and not power-fail.

I was playing fucking Enter Sandman.

Heh, that's the only song I can play all the way through on guitar. Although I am learning sorg :3

At 2/18/09 09:22 AM, Nev wrote:

At 2/18/09 12:21 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Please avoid judging me next time.

Whether they're shit or not is still based on opinion.
And it wasn't me "judging" (probably not the best word) you. I just get annoyed everything people say 'Who should I go see?'. I want people to think for themselves.

And your judging that I'm not doing so?
Yes, you did made a judgemental post.
What I was asking is which of these bands is nice to see live. Cause I know which of these bands I like. And I was asking if they are worth it or not.
Have you ever been to a show of a band that you really like on their Studio recording, but that sucks bad live?
That's what I'm trying to avoid.

At 2/18/09 03:45 AM, OverCynicalBlasphemy wrote:

At 2/18/09 12:21 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: No, This is Opera
and This is Symphonic Metal

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Your an idiot.

Seriously.

Holy fuck... I must be doing something wrong...
what is t that's not working in what I said?

Tarja... even if she has a formation in Opera music... is recording Symphonic Metal.
What is it that I'm just not getting right?

At 2/18/09 12:49 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:

2. We hadn't practiced once.

That would be the problem.

But what was the song that you played for the auditions?

At 2/18/09 04:02 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 2/18/09 12:49 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:

2. We hadn't practiced once.

That would be the problem.

Yeah, I figured that, somehow.

But what was the song that you played for the auditions?

Enter Sandman.

And before that, Frantic.
And before that, Motorbreath.
And before that, Call of Ktulu.

In order:
1. Released too recently.
2. Drumming too fucked up.
3. Too long.

Yeah, our main problem is that restrictions, both official and down to ourselves, kind of got in the way.

At 2/18/09 04:14 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:

At 2/18/09 04:02 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 2/18/09 12:49 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:

2. We hadn't practiced once.

That would be the problem.

Yeah, I figured that, somehow.

But what was the song that you played for the auditions?

Enter Sandman.

And before that, Frantic.
And before that, Motorbreath.
And before that, Call of Ktulu.

In order:
1. Released too recently.
2. Drumming too fucked up.
3. Too long.

Yeah, our main problem is that restrictions, both official and down to ourselves, kind of got in the way.

The problem really wouldn't be that Metal isn't cool as you said :P

I've played a song by Megadeth in highscool myself. And some guys from my school playe stuff by both Metallica and Megadeth.

The problem would really be the lack of practice as a band... cause when I auditionned to play She Wolf at a show at my high school, our drummer had never played with us before the auditions... and he messed us up real bad.

Iron Maiden mostly, but with some Metallica and Disturbed thrown in occasionally.

At 2/18/09 04:18 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: The problem really wouldn't be that Metal isn't cool as you said :P

And that.

The problem would really be the lack of practice as a band... cause when I auditionned to play She Wolf at a show at my high school, our drummer had never played with us before the auditions... and he messed us up real bad.

Yeah. We had to stop and start again like 3 times because we fucked up badly.

How it went down;
Me: *plays intro riff. Waits for cue to start the main riff*
Brien: *keeps doing intro drum line*
Me: *looks at him as to say "What the fuck man?*
____________________________
Me: "Sleep with one eye open! (forgets lyrics) Holding your nah nah nah!"
____________________________
Me: "I can't do the clean part, though."
Brien: "Just start into the chorus."
*plays until bridge*
Me: *turns volume down on guitar* Now I lay thee down to...
Brien: *is still doing verse drums*
____________________________

His explanation was afterward was "We cut out the fucking first verse, I was lost."

At 2/18/09 04:18 PM, IAmTheMonty wrote: Iron Maiden mostly, but with some Metallica and Disturbed thrown in occasionally.

10 bands? Also Disturbed are not metal... enough.

This band is so predictable, I have been listening quite a lot to them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfsifZ9tF R0&feature=related

In every song they have 3+ breakdowns and always have the same distorted pig squealing sound.

Despised Icon
Beneath The Massacre
Carnifex
Neuraxis
Plasma Rifle

Should I see these bands? The concert's only 12 bucks.

Its a deathcore + death metal concert.

At 2/18/09 06:04 PM, AniMetal wrote: Despised Icon
Beneath The Massacre
Carnifex
Neuraxis
Plasma Rifle

Should I see these bands? The concert's only 12 bucks.

Its a deathcore + death metal concert.

Yeah sounds pretty good, I would.

At 2/18/09 04:02 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Have you ever been to a show of a band that you really like on their Studio recording, but that sucks bad live?

One word:
Nachtmystium

Nightwish are OK live but they aren't worth seeing unless they are playing with someone you want to see, they aren't bad live just average.

At 2/18/09 03:45 AM, OverCynicalBlasphemy wrote:

At 2/18/09 12:21 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: No, This is Opera
and This is Symphonic Metal

Holy fuck... I must be doing something wrong...]]
what is t that's not working in what I said?

That's what you said.

Tarja... even if she has a formation in Opera music... is recording Symphonic Metal.
What is it that I'm just not getting right?

No, she isn't.

Where is the Lead guitar? Where is the Rhythm guitar? Where are the keyboards? Where are the drums? Where is the Bass Guitar?

Exactly, its not metal.

Its entirely 100% opera.

Stop being so dumb.

At 2/18/09 06:23 PM, OverCynicalBlasphemy wrote: Stop being so dumb.

Oh god, tell me you didn't...

At 2/18/09 06:23 PM, OverCynicalBlasphemy wrote:

At 2/18/09 03:45 AM, OverCynicalBlasphemy wrote:

At 2/18/09 12:21 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: No, This is Opera
and This is Symphonic Metal

Holy fuck... I must be doing something wrong...]]
what is t that's not working in what I said?

That's what you said.

Tarja... even if she has a formation in Opera music... is recording Symphonic Metal.
What is it that I'm just not getting right?

No, she isn't.

Where is the Lead guitar? Where is the Rhythm guitar? Where are the keyboards? Where are the drums? Where is the Bass Guitar?

Exactly, its not metal.

Its entirely 100% opera.

Stop being so dumb.

First of... look at all the musicians she played with
There is drums, there is keys, there is guitars and there is bass

And now you go listen to this song
and you realise how much you failed...

Your pathetic attemp at making me look dumb was a total fail...

this isn't any different of what she was doing with Nightwish

stop being so dumb.

At 2/18/09 06:24 PM, Nev wrote:

At 2/18/09 06:23 PM, OverCynicalBlasphemy wrote: Stop being so dumb.

Oh god, tell me you didn't...

She did, and she's right about duff.

In b4 HeavenDuff's pissy fit.

At 2/18/09 06:35 PM, AniMetal wrote:

In b4 HeavenDuff's pissy fit.

Or not.
He's like a fucking cat :P.

Duff, even though she isn't right about why Tarja's solo career isn't metal she is still right about the fact she isn't metal.

And artists you play with don't affect your genre.

Michael Kiske has been struggling with his indie rock solo career or some stupid shit for years, he we is in Avantasia and Ayreon each for an album I think.

Doesn't make his solo career any more metal.

At 2/18/09 06:35 PM, AniMetal wrote:

In b4 HeavenDuff's pissy fit.

I just failed.

what the fuck is this shit

At 2/18/09 06:38 PM, AniMetal wrote: Duff, even though she isn't right about why Tarja's solo career isn't metal she is still right about the fact she isn't metal.

And artists you play with don't affect your genre.

Michael Kiske has been struggling with his indie rock solo career or some stupid shit for years, he we is in Avantasia and Ayreon each for an album I think.

In fact, I was not talking about the musicians themselves, but the instruments they are playing. Cause she said there was not guitars... not keyboards... no drums and no bass in her music...
that was just the proof needed to show her she was wrong.

Doesn't make his solo career any more metal.

That would be just like saying Nightwish isn't metal and never was. Listen to the song that I posted previously, listen to the whole thing and tell me it's not sounding like Nightwish.

So if your gonna say Tarja didn't write anything that was Metal during her solo career it would be just like saying Nightwish is not metal.

At 2/18/09 06:35 PM, AniMetal wrote:

In b4 HeavenDuff's pissy fit.

I just failed.

:)

metalheads are annoying... they think they know everything about music and that's annoying...

At 2/18/09 06:42 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: what the fuck is this shit

Wanna hit me with a rock?
Really, really hard?

At 2/18/09 06:48 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: In fact, I was not talking about the musicians themselves, but the instruments they are playing. Cause she said there was not guitars... not keyboards... no drums and no bass in her music...
that was just the proof needed to show her she was wrong.

STILL NOT METAL.

Their can be all those instruments in pop and it still isn't metal like at all.

That would be just like saying Nightwish isn't metal and never was. Listen to the song that I posted previously, listen to the whole thing and tell me it's not sounding like Nightwish.

She didn't even like listening to Nightwish music she only sang it cause it was her job.

She would totally write music she hates.

So if your gonna say Tarja didn't write anything that was Metal during her solo career it would be just like saying Nightwish is not metal.

She didn't write a single song when she was in Nightwish.

And it sounds very different from Nightwish, except for vocals.

Also, another KISKE referrence.

metalheads are annoying... they think they know everything about music and that's annoying...

Cause that isn'y hypocrittical in the slightest.

At 2/18/09 06:42 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: what the fuck is this shit

Your momma.

In b4 funny.

this has to be like, the dumbest argument i've ever seen

At 2/18/09 06:53 PM, AniMetal wrote:

At 2/18/09 06:48 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: In fact, I was not talking about the musicians themselves, but the instruments they are playing. Cause she said there was not guitars... not keyboards... no drums and no bass in her music...
that was just the proof needed to show her she was wrong.

STILL NOT METAL.

Their can be all those instruments in pop and it still isn't metal like at all.

I know...
that was not the point...

That would be just like saying Nightwish isn't metal and never was. Listen to the song that I posted previously, listen to the whole thing and tell me it's not sounding like Nightwish.

She didn't even like listening to Nightwish music she only sang it cause it was her job.

I doubt it... even if she's playing mainly for money... she was popular enough to leave the band by herself to start her own project. But she was kicked out.

She would totally write music she hates.

Maybe

So if your gonna say Tarja didn't write anything that was Metal during her solo career it would be just like saying Nightwish is not metal.

She didn't write a single song when she was in Nightwish.

But her solo project sounds kind of like Nightwish.
There is a lot of similar elements in her music. The songs structure is pretty much similar. Guitar riffs are almost identical and the sound of the distortion is pretty similar two. Keys, when she sings are used the same way they were used in Nightwish.

metalheads are annoying... they think they know everything about music and that's annoying...

Cause that isn'y hypocrittical in the slightest.

It's not cause I have opinions that I'm pretending to know everything.

And you really have to admit that she isn't playing straight down Opera. Call it pop metal if you want to, call it anything you like, but at least don't say it's opera.

At 2/18/09 04:52 PM, sirtom93 wrote:

At 2/18/09 04:18 PM, IAmTheMonty wrote: Iron Maiden mostly, but with some Metallica and Disturbed thrown in occasionally.

10 bands? Also Disturbed are not metal... enough.

I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE
Also, sorry. I'm still not quite the 'metal nerd' just yet.

At 2/18/09 06:57 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: this has to be like, the dumbest argument i've ever seen

You have not seen this yet.

At 2/18/09 07:02 PM, IAmTheMonty wrote: I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE

???

Also, sorry. I'm still not quite the 'metal nerd' just yet.

But Disturbed isn't metal, at all.

At 2/18/09 07:02 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: And you really have to admit that she isn't playing straight down Opera. Call it pop metal if you want to, call it anything you like, but at least don't say it's opera.

IT IS OP-ER-A!

Or rather, classical with a heavy opera influence, but still not metal at all.

/END ARGUEMENT.

At 2/18/09 07:12 PM, AniMetal wrote:

At 2/18/09 07:02 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: And you really have to admit that she isn't playing straight down Opera. Call it pop metal if you want to, call it anything you like, but at least don't say it's opera.

IT IS OP-ER-A!


Or rather, classical with a heavy opera influence, but still not metal at all.

yah... with drums and distortion guitar :P

/END ARGUEMENT.

whatever you say.

Any Ensiferum fan in here?

Cause I got their first album and I think it's quite nice :)

At 2/18/09 07:12 PM, AniMetal wrote: Or rather, classical with a heavy opera influence, but still not metal at all.

I'll play devil's advocate and note that Tarja has a classical album and a symphonic metal/goth metal album (according to the metal archives).

also she isn't opera. Opera, to put it in layman's term, is basically a play plus an orchestral score. Which is not what Nightwish is, which is why i hate when people call them "opera metal." Operatic vocals are used in all classical music, not just opera.