At 8/12/08 03:11 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Yeah, but the Unblack Metal in question sounds EXACTLY like Burzum.

It sounds NOTHING like burzum.

THIS does not sound like THIS.

nor does it sound like

THIS or THIS or THIS.

Ryan, you are WRONG.

At 8/12/08 03:22 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: Ryan, you are WRONG.

Sorry, the production quality being comparable to that of a Mobile Phone kind of confused me.

At 8/12/08 03:21 PM, Anti-pie wrote:

At 8/12/08 02:55 PM, kylexthexpostman wrote:

At 8/12/08 02:51 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: some people do call it white metal, actually. i think white metal is even lamer (it also makes it sound like white power metal). It can also be called christian black metal.

There's nothing wrong with Christian metal.

Christian metal is like an oxymoron if you ask me.

How is it?

Ahahahahaha...

At 8/12/08 03:30 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Sorry, the production quality being comparable to that of a Mobile Phone kind of confused me.

Burzum's production isn't that bad.

At 8/12/08 03:48 PM, DeIirium wrote: Ahahahahaha...

I've read that entire site before

Probably the best thing ever.

At 8/12/08 03:48 PM, DeIirium wrote: Ahahahahaha...

I think I'll start charging a penny for every braincell someone damages.

The owners of that domain owe me five pounds.

At 8/12/08 03:54 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:

At 8/12/08 03:48 PM, DeIirium wrote: Ahahahahaha...

I think I'll start charging a penny for every braincell someone damages.

The owners of that domain owe me five pounds.

Actually, upon reading more of them, I have deduced that for some reason the comic on homosexuality was somewhat sensical and true, but I think they felt the need to balance it out by filling all the other ones with bullshit.

Oh yeah, and I final got Eaten Back to Life.

At 8/12/08 04:11 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Oh yeah, and I final got Eaten Back to Life.

YEAH!!!!! Good choice.

Anti-Pie, if you wish to join, please list 10 metal bands you like.

At 8/12/08 12:16 AM, D3NTATUS wrote: i just downloaded sigh's "hangman's hymn," sleep's "holy mountain" and om's "pilgrimage"

awesome, awesome, and awesome

You should get everything by Sigh. They've never done a bad album. I'd especially reccomend Imaginary Sonicscape, Infidel Art, and Gallow's Gallery.

At 8/12/08 04:52 AM, Goatchrist wrote: Never saw the greatness of Sigh

I'd say it's hard to miss, but whatever.

At 8/12/08 03:48 PM, DeIirium wrote: Ahahahahaha...

The "truth" huh? I find this kind of stuff disturbing. everything is wrong, if it feels good, stop doing it, humans are inherently bad and should live in shame and worry about burning in a pit of fire, and for eternity at that.

Yeah, fuck them.

At 8/12/08 04:11 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Actually, upon reading more of them, I have deduced that for some reason the comic on homosexuality was somewhat sensical and true

no

bullshit.

yes

At 8/12/08 04:56 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: You should get everything by Sigh. They've never done a bad album. I'd especially reccomend Imaginary Sonicscape, Infidel Art, and Gallow's Gallery.

I've already got Gallow's, it was my first Sigh album

At 8/12/08 04:11 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Actually, upon reading more of them, I have deduced that for some reason the comic on homosexuality was somewhat sensical and true

:|

At 8/12/08 05:45 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 8/12/08 04:56 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: You should get everything by Sigh. They've never done a bad album. I'd especially reccomend Imaginary Sonicscape, Infidel Art, and Gallow's Gallery.

I've already got Gallow's, it was my first Sigh album

I wasn't really impressed by Gallows. I think its average.
And as I only have that album I'm afraid thats how I see Sigh too.

At 8/12/08 05:57 PM, Nev wrote: I think its average.

Well, you're wrong.

At 8/12/08 04:11 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: the comic on homosexuality was somewhat sensical and true

hmm... that's funny... those are all things the bible isn't.

not metal anymore, but who gives a fuck; hindsight by anathema sounds pretty good.

Sigh is basically average. It is not bad, yet it brings nothing new to the genre, merely recycling what was already there. Inserting a trumpet changes nothing to the music itself, it merely provides novelty - it is noise that gets in the way between the listener and the music-in-terms-of-structure.

The tendency among metal bands to add new instruments (violins, opera vocals, flutes etc.) has turned out to be another chase after "something new" - in the superfluous, pop music meaning of the term - but without integrating it into the music itself, it is rubbish, and since it is not inserted because the instrument's musical qualities has anything to do with the music-as-structure in a meaningful way, it should be done away with. Get these hipsters out of metal.

Darkthrone provides an interesting counterexample: having reduced the music to the basic structure that gives meaning to it, they concentrate on the music itself rather than throwing all kinds of empty decoration at it so that it "sounds better" to the "average listener". The result: pure music, minimalist in nature, deceptively simple yet with a use of tremolo-based riff harmonies united to works worthy of (and eeriely reminding of) Johann Sebastian Bach.

At 8/12/08 06:34 PM, p0tbra1n wrote: Sigh is basically average.

my my my, someone is feeling pretentious today.

At 8/12/08 06:37 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 8/12/08 06:34 PM, p0tbra1n wrote: Sigh is basically average.

my my my, someone is feeling pretentious today.

How is that pretencious?

At 8/12/08 06:41 PM, Nev wrote: How is that pretencious?

to paraphrase merriam webster, he's making exaggerated and unjustified claims. read on:

At 8/12/08 06:34 PM, p0tbra1n wrote: Sigh is basically average. It is not bad, yet it brings nothing new to the genre, merely recycling what was already there. Inserting a trumpet changes nothing to the music itself, it merely provides novelty - it is noise that gets in the way between the listener and the music-in-terms-of-structure.

what the fuck is this supposed to mean? A trumpet in metal fucks up the music? Bullshit. Who gives a fuck if it "gets in the way between the listener and the music-in-terms-of-structure?" If it sounds good, i will listen to it. If it does not sound good, I will not listen to it.

Darkthrone provides an interesting counterexample: having reduced the music to the basic structure that gives meaning to it, they concentrate on the music itself rather than throwing all kinds of empty decoration at it so that it "sounds better" to the "average listener". The result: pure music, minimalist in nature, deceptively simple yet with a use of tremolo-based riff harmonies united to works worthy of (and eeriely reminding of) Johann Sebastian Bach.

And here he compares fucking DARKTHRONE with JS Bach. What the fuck.

what I'm saying here, is that this guy just pops in, gives his opinion for fuck all it's worth, with this air of importance and matter-of-factness, in a "i know much more about music than you guys do so fuck all of you" sort of way.

i'm sorr, p0tbra1n, that was totally out of line for me. i just totally went off on you with hardly a reason. that's fucked up of me, I apologize.

At 8/12/08 04:11 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Actually, upon reading more of them, I have deduced that for some reason the comic on homosexuality was somewhat sensical and true

The only part that was sensible was the bit about "born gay" being a PR thing.
The rest was bollocks. 'Oooh, God loves homos but you've got to change your ways.'

These are making me angry >:(. I wish I had some faith just so I could lose it.

Although the final line of the homosexuality one is brilliant '... choose the narrow path that leads to life.'
Very subtle ;).

Sigh plays good, interesting music. I don't care whether or not it's different. The sax sounds great. It's not just "decoration". That's what it comes down to. what sounds good. And Sigh sounds great.

At 8/12/08 07:29 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: The sax sounds great.

speaking of which, does anyone know of any bands that use a saxophone in their line up? I know that Solefald has some songs with sax, Sigh obviously, and In Lingua Mortua. I think the sax sounds really good in metal.

At 8/12/08 07:34 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 8/12/08 07:29 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: The sax sounds great.

speaking of which, does anyone know of any bands that use a saxophone in their line up? I know that Solefald has some songs with sax, Sigh obviously, and In Lingua Mortua. I think the sax sounds really good in metal.

Don't get me wrong - there is nothing wrong with the sax itself, or the use of other instruments. The question is, how does it contribute to the music as a whole? I find it a disturbing element, like a weed in a bed of flowers. Speaking as a fervent structuralist, staunchly conservative about metal, I'd say the core and meaning of all Western music is the structure of it, not "how it sounds", which is just the setting.

Don't get me wrong about my view on Sigh either; I was at their concert in Oslo at the Inferno festival of 2007 and was in fact moderately impressed at the live performance, so I give them that. Many bands are basically studio bands, who are so shitty at playing live the music sounds like an Abrams tank raping a tractor, and having mentioned Darkthrone already, it's worth mentioning that Darkthrone has not thrown a single concert for many years if ever.

At 8/12/08 07:34 PM, D3NTATUS wrote:

At 8/12/08 07:29 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: The sax sounds great.

speaking of which, does anyone know of any bands that use a saxophone in their line up? I know that Solefald has some songs with sax, Sigh obviously, and In Lingua Mortua. I think the sax sounds really good in metal.

Get Sbrodj by Karaboudjan. It's a side project of Dan Swanö. There's some sax on the album, plus It's an awesome and crazy avant-garde album that you should hear anyway. Sadly, it's not even 20 minutes long.

On the subject of Dan Swanö, anybody who hasn't yet should check out his solo album, Moontower and his old band, Edge of Sanity. Both are awesome prog death metal.

At 8/12/08 07:51 PM, p0tbra1n wrote: Don't get me wrong - there is nothing wrong with the sax itself, or the use of other instruments. The question is, how does it contribute to the music as a whole?

It sounds good and goes well with the music.

At 8/12/08 02:55 PM, kylexthexpostman wrote:

There's nothing wrong with Christian metal.

It fucking sucks donkey penis!

At 8/12/08 10:17 AM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: ...What the hell is this?

Is that what they call Christian Metal? Or is that just the reverse of black metal in terms of talking about Satan and not God...

Bad enough they come to my house and try to convert me and I tell them to eat shit and die!
They never takes Black metalz away from it's original state from christrapeing black metal!

Is it just me or do christians always try to join in on what they used to protest? Like back in the day when rock was considered a path to hell but now theres like millions of gay christian rock bands. Also rap and metal seem to have the same thing.

At 8/12/08 11:10 PM, Anti-pie wrote: Is it just me or do christians always try to join in on what they used to protest? Like back in the day when rock was considered a path to hell but now theres like millions of gay christian rock bands. Also rap and metal seem to have the same thing.

it's possible that it hearkens back to the days when they would adopt holidays and certain traditions and practices of pagans to make them easier to convert.

it's a little hard to convert someone with christian rock though, because it all sucks.