At 4/7/08 08:41 AM, Oppugnant wrote: I just acquired Solefald - Black for Death: An Icelandic Odyssey Part II.
Quite the excellent album.

I love all of their albums except for the Linear Scaffold. I just like it as a friend.

Necrodyssey is an amazing song.

Yes, it is.

Why do I feel like getting some Arch Nemesis albums all of sudden? :S

At 4/6/08 06:07 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: I really hope they make another album. I wouldn't be surprised if it would be metal. Their last album was pretty heavy. And I would be so greatful if Bill Bruford came back.

Their later stuff is heavier? Sounds interesting, but with the absence of Greg Lake after In the Wake of Poseidon, I'm still quite doubtful about all their other albums. :( I'll still get them, however, but I just dunno if the vocalists will impress me as much.

At 4/7/08 06:07 AM, Goatchrist wrote:

At 4/7/08 01:53 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: www.metalstorm.ee says its thrash metal, but I think your right, Thrash Metalcore !!!

I suggest you don't believe anything this site says when it comes to genre classification.

I dunno what Metal Storm are like, but as long as they don't consider Trivium metal, I'd rather trust them than trusting Metal-Archives.

At 4/7/08 01:39 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Any of you guys like Shadows Fall?

I just bought their most recent album and I was wondering how you guys would classify them.
Thanks :P

I heard them a long time ago on TV, they didn't really intrest me.

I finally checked out Aarni, they're fucking awesome.

Other albums gotten:
Impaled - Mondo Medicale
Dissection - Storm Of The Light's Bane
Forefather - Steadfast

At 4/7/08 01:41 PM, Bahamut wrote: I dunno what Metal Storm are like, but as long as they don't consider Trivium metal, I'd rather trust them than trusting Metal-Archives.

They have Korn, Deftones and Slipknot :)

I fucking trashed my arm at school today.

It didn't stop bleeding until a few minutes ago, and the gash is pure black, which I think I should be worried about. My mum's keeping me off school tomorrow, not because of my arm, but because I swore to destroy the little fucker that did it.

In a nutshell, I was facing the other way, and he just like pushes me for no reason, I happen to be standing on a pretty damn steep hill, I eventually fall and slide onto the gravel, and I hit my head on a car.

Said fucker has also been making fun of my religious beliefs, but the thing is I can't get near him without him running away. I should get someone to hold him down, or something.

At 4/7/08 03:29 PM, Metal-Command wrote: Impaled - Mondo Medicale
Dissection - Storm Of The Light's Bane

Great fucking albums. I even own the 2cd reissue of Storm of the Light's Bane. Worth every cent. Has to be the best melodic Black metal ever. Also probably the best Impaled album IMO. Good stuff man.

Set me straight here; Kamelot, Sonata Arctica, or Symphony X?

At 4/7/08 05:49 PM, X-Imperium-X wrote: Storm of the Light's Bane. Worth every cent. Has to be the best melodic Black metal ever.

Triarchy of the *sigh* Lost *cough* Lovers

^^

Oh yeah, if it's alright I might start posting here again, I used to like three months or more ago. If we're still doing the list thing, would I have to do it again?

At 4/7/08 07:58 PM, Goatchrist wrote: Triarchy of the *sigh* Lost *cough* Lovers

^^

* Except for Rotting Christ. You know I love you GC ( :3 etc, etc, etc, purely hetero love), I just got all caught up in remembering an album I haven't listening to in quite a while. I would definitely say Rotting Christ is a much better band, but SotLB is a great album. Just saying...

At 4/7/08 07:57 PM, Abyssus wrote: Set me straight here; Kamelot, Sonata Arctica, or Symphony X?

IMO, Kamelot, then Symphony X then Sonata Arctica, but the first two are easily debatable. I just think Kamelot is a bit better at doing what Power Metal does best. Symphony X I feel might be more consistently better overall though... The conundrum continues. Also, feel free to post here as often as you want.

At 4/7/08 08:02 PM, Abyssus wrote: Oh yeah, if it's alright I might start posting here again, I used to like three months or more ago. If we're still doing the list thing, would I have to do it again?

No you're still in here, don't worry. Do us a favor, though, and make your presence memorable.

At 4/7/08 08:19 PM, X-Imperium-X wrote: IMO, Kamelot, then Symphony X then Sonata Arctica, but the first two are easily debatable. I just think Kamelot is a bit better at doing what Power Metal does best. Symphony X I feel might be more consistently better overall though... The conundrum continues. Also, feel free to post here as often as you want.

Great.
I see where you coming from, honestly I think Kamelot just does some fantastic music, they're the kind of people that always just seem to know what they do... Also good videos.
Then again I used to love Symphony X, but I feel asleep with a bad headache while listening to them, and now I always associate that headache with their best album, paradise lost. So listening to them for too long gives me a realy stuffy feeling.
But I have always loved SA, always. They win so hard, but could do some new stuff now again instead of making new versions of Broken and that.
...Yeah Sonata Arctica for me, I need to buy some of their stuff.

At 4/7/08 04:42 PM, Goatchrist wrote:

At 4/7/08 01:41 PM, Bahamut wrote: I dunno what Metal Storm are like, but as long as they don't consider Trivium metal, I'd rather trust them than trusting Metal-Archives.

They have Korn, Deftones and Slipknot :)

mmm, whats the problem with that? even if you don't like them... they are a kind of metal... nu-metal yeah... but metal still...
and what is Trivium if its not Metal?

At 4/7/08 09:48 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

mmm, whats the problem with that? even if you don't like them... they are a kind of metal... nu-metal yeah... but metal still...
and what is Trivium if its not Metal?

Have you no sense of metal and NOT METAL!!!

At 4/7/08 09:54 PM, smeagol1 wrote:

At 4/7/08 09:48 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

mmm, whats the problem with that? even if you don't like them... they are a kind of metal... nu-metal yeah... but metal still...
and what is Trivium if its not Metal?

Have you no sense of metal and NOT METAL!!!

you need to bring a couple more arguments than that...
a band is not metal just if you like them...

And do go judging my taste in metal just because I don't share opinions with you...
There's a little list of my favorite bands right there, just so you know I'm not just a pop metal fan...

Metal bands I like:
Adagio, All That Remains, Altaria, Angra, Amorphis, Apocalyptica, Arch Enemy, As I Lay Dying, At The Gates, At Vance, Atreyu, A7X, Bullet For My Valentine, Cellador, Children Of Bodom, Dark Tranquillity, Decapitated, Despised Icon, Divine Heresy, DragonForce, Dream Theater, Edguy, Eidolon, Elvenking, Firewind, Gamma Ray, Hammerfall, In Flames, Iron Maiden, Jacobs Dream, Judas Prist, Kalmah, Kamelot, Kreator, Lamb Of God, Liquid Tension Experiment, Mägo De Oz, Megadeth, Metallica, Motörhead, Nevermore, Nightrage, Nightwish, Norther, Papa Roach, Profugus Mortis, Quo Vadis, Sabaton, Scar Symmetry, Shadows Fall, Sinergy, Slipknot, Soilwork, Sonata Arctica, Stratovarius, Symphony X, SOAD, Tarot, The Agonist, Threat Signal, Through The Eyes Of The Dead, Throwdown, Trivium, Warmen, Wintersun.

I consider Metalcore and Nu-Metal as metal, because... there is a lot of specific similarities with a lot of other metal styles. Guitar riffs first of, are sometimes based on thrash metal and melodic death metal riffs. And drums... you can't deny that metalcore drums are metal...
anyway...

Welcome back, Abyssus. I don't know about the others, but I remember you.

At 4/7/08 01:41 PM, Bahamut wrote: Their later stuff is heavier?

Yeah, some of their stuff during the John Wetton lineup in the 70's was kind of heavy, but they got heavier with the release of Thrak in 1995, and heavier yet with the release of the Power to Believe in 2003.

Sounds interesting, but with the absence of Greg Lake after In the Wake of Poseidon, I'm still quite doubtful about all their other albums.

Oh, hush. You have yet to hear their best stuff. The albums with John Wetton are even better (Lark's Tongues in Aspic, Starless and Bible Black, and Red). Not that he's a better vocalist. The music itself was just better, which is saying a lot seeing how in the Court of the Crimson King and in the Wake of Poseidon were fucking masterpieces. Plus, they had their best drummer then, Bill Bruford. He's one of the best drummers ever. Sadly, he left after they made the Power to Believe, their latest album. I wish they'd get rid of Pat and get Bill to come back.

Everything King Crimson has done is good, except maybe for the ConstruKction of Light. That's the only album I haven't heard and everybody seems to hate that album. But every single other full length they've ever done is good. Even their album Beat, which a lot of people said wasn't good, was actually good. It just wasn't great like most of their stuff.

Though they may not compare to Greg Lake, John Wetton and Adrian Belew are both great singers. I also like Adrian Belew's solo work. Boz is a pretty good vocalist as well. Gordon is okay, but he can be kind of hard on the ears. They surely could have gotten a better vocalist than Gordon, but Lizard still turned out to be a pretty good album.

This must be the longest message I've posted in the Metal Hell about a band that isn't metal.

At 4/7/08 03:29 PM, Metal-Command wrote: I finally checked out Aarni, they're fucking awesome.

INORITE?! I love Aarni.

At 4/7/08 04:42 PM, Goatchrist wrote: They have Korn, Deftones and Slipknot :)

SHUN THEM! SHUN THE FOOLS!

At 4/7/08 07:57 PM, Abyssus wrote: Set me straight here; Kamelot, Sonata Arctica, or Symphony X?

Symphony X > Kamelot > Sonata Arctica. I don't even like Sonata Arctica, I don't listen to Kamelot very often, and I love Symphony X.

At 4/7/08 08:28 PM, Abyssus wrote: their best album, paradise lost.

I heard a bit from Paradise lost and really didn't like it. I think their best albums are probably the Divine Wings of Tragedy and the Odyssey. But I'm kind of tired of a lot of their stuff because I've listened to them far too much.

At 4/7/08 09:48 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: ... they are a kind of metal...

What the fuck...

Go sit in the corner and think about what you did. While nu-metal is influenced by metal, it is entirely separate from metal.

At 4/7/08 07:57 PM, Abyssus wrote: Set me straight here; Kamelot, Sonata Arctica, or Symphony X?

Sonata Arctica, Symphony X, Kamelot

If you're going out to buy an album, go buy some Sonata Arctica.

At 4/7/08 10:53 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: What the fuck...

Go sit in the corner and think about what you did.

LOL! Owned.

At 4/7/08 10:53 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Go sit in the corner and think about what you did. While nu-metal is influenced by metal, it is entirely separate from metal.

Word. Saying nu metal and metalcore, nu metal especially, are metal is like saying industrial rock is true industrial. Just as you can't say NIN and Throbbing Gristle are the same, you can't say As I Lay Dying, Slipknot and Cannibal Corpse are the same.

You dig?

At 4/7/08 08:19 PM, X-Imperium-X wrote: * Except for Rotting Christ. You know I love you GC ( :3 etc, etc, etc, purely hetero love), I just got all caught up in remembering an album I haven't listening to in quite a while. I would definitely say Rotting Christ is a much better band, but SotLB is a great album. Just saying...

Haha :) well, there is no doubt that Storm of the Light's Bane is a classic album. I must admit, sometimes I regret the choice of going back to the tent (due to the bad weather) instead of experiencing one of the last Dissection gigs. I mean, I COULD have seen them but wasn't a huge fan.

HeavenDuff, Nu-Metal hasn't much to do with metal at all, as its origins mostly stem from Hardcore and even the Grunge movement had something to do with it. Sure, Pantera added their part, but I think it's a lot smaller than what's generally believed.

At 4/7/08 10:32 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:

Metal bands I like:

Do many of those band are NOT metal.

I consider Metalcore and Nu-Metal as metal, because... there is a lot of specific similarities with a lot of other metal styles.

The difference's outweigh the similarities.

Guitar riffs first of, are sometimes based on thrash metal and melodic death metal riffs.

Metalcore base there riffs of Hardcore Punk, actually.

And drums... you can't deny that metalcore drums are metal...

Hardly.

At 4/7/08 04:42 PM, Goatchrist wrote:

At 4/7/08 01:41 PM, Bahamut wrote: I dunno what Metal Storm are like, but as long as they don't consider Trivium metal, I'd rather trust them than trusting Metal-Archives.

They have Korn, Deftones and Slipknot :)

...OK, that's a lot worse than what MA did. I just hope there are other reliable metal websites.

At 4/7/08 10:32 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Metal bands I like:
As I Lay Dying, Atreyu, A7X, Bullet For My Valentine, Slipknot, SOAD, Trivium.

Not the best bands to mention here. :p

I consider Metalcore and Nu-Metal as metal, because... there is a lot of specific similarities with a lot of other metal styles. Guitar riffs first of, are sometimes based on thrash metal and melodic death metal riffs. And drums... you can't deny that metalcore drums are metal...

Metalcore, only a very small portion of it.
Nu-metal, nah.

At 4/7/08 10:53 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: Welcome back, Abyssus. I don't know about the others, but I remember you.

I remember him. :)

Sounds interesting, but with the absence of Greg Lake after In the Wake of Poseidon, I'm still quite doubtful about all their other albums.

Sadly, he left after they made the Power to Believe, their latest album. I wish they'd get rid of Pat and get Bill to come back.

I see. I'll still get those albums, however. But either way, I wish Greg Lake returned to the band, even if it was just for a short while.

Everything King Crimson has done is good, except maybe for the ConstruKction of Light. That's the only album I haven't heard and everybody seems to hate that album.

That album I'll leave until last then.

This must be the longest message I've posted in the Metal Hell about a band that isn't metal.

Hey, King Crimson are still awesome. :) It's much better than discussing about Slipknot and any other nu-metal band.

At 4/8/08 07:10 AM, Bahamut wrote:

At 4/7/08 10:32 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: As I Lay Dying, Atreyu, A7X, Bullet For My Valentine, Slipknot, SOAD, Trivium.

Not the best bands to mention here. :p

yeah. definitely not.

I see. I'll still get those albums, however. But either way, I wish Greg Lake returned to the band, even if it was just for a short while.

I heard that he kind of lost it, like he's not so good anymore. I don't know if there's any truth to that.

Hey, King Crimson are still awesome. :)

my number one favorite band of all time. God, I love them so much.

You should check out Tony Levin's solo stuff as well as Adrian Belew. Some of Adrian Belew's stuff isn't so good, but his other stuff is awesome. Also look into Bill Bruford's old band, which I believe was called Bruford. Also, if you like jazz, I highly reccomend Bill Bruford's Earthworks. excellent stuff.

Awesome club idea, I want to be a part of metal hell.

At 4/8/08 09:50 AM, Chiggins wrote: Awesome club idea, I want to be a part of metal hell.

List 10 metal bands you like.

At 4/8/08 09:53 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: List 10 metal bands you like.

The showdown
HORSE the band
Bullet for my valentine
Maylene and the sons of disaster
Protest the hero
Slayer
The chariot
Blindside
Norma jean
Scarlet

I just heard a couple of songs by DevilDriver, first time I ever listened to them and some of its pretty catchy.

At 4/8/08 10:20 AM, Chiggins wrote:

At 4/8/08 09:53 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: List 10 metal bands you like.

The showdown
HORSE the band
Bullet for my valentine
Norma jean

LOL, ARE YOU FOR REAL.

Proof of Norma Jean's super (un)awesomeness.

At 4/8/08 10:20 AM, Chiggins wrote: The showdown
HORSE the band
Bullet for my valentine
Maylene and the sons of disaster
Protest the hero
Slayer
The chariot
Blindside
Norma jean
Scarlet

The Showdown: Questionable but acceptable (its on MA)
Horse THE BAND (capszzz): looked it up on Wikipedia, I'm going to say no because it seems to ridiculous, but I'll defer to a horseman that may have more experience with that band (nintendocore = lulz).
Bullet: No, sorry (waaaaaaay too -core)
Maylene: too much on the hardcore side, sorry
Protest: metalcore but acceptable, i guess
Slayer: the only 100% yes you have
The chariot: didn't find anything out about this band, unless its a punk outfit from georgia. I'll say no until you clarify
Blindside: Hardcore
Norma Jean: nope
Scarlet: metalcore

I'm going to say no, man. Way too many core and iffy bands. Feel free to ask for suggestions or whatever, but I think the metalcore or hardcore clubs would be better for you if they're still around. Good luck.

At 4/8/08 11:32 AM, X-Imperium-X wrote: I'm going to say no, man. Way too many core and iffy bands. Feel free to ask for suggestions or whatever, but I think the metalcore or hardcore clubs would be better for you if they're still around. Good luck.

Mkay, I guess I didn't grasp the metalness of this club.
Anyways uhh... Later metal hell.

PS. "Metalness" is not a real word, yes I am aware.